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Post by: TommyH on January 25, 2012, 10:11:10 PM
Ugly Stik. Only pole I'll ever own. Can't beat the pole for the price
For the price they are great! They will work.......(i got one) but you might double your catch rate with a lami or loomis. :twocents:
Im pretty sure i was drooling the whole time i got to try out a lamiglass, I casted to the same spot i had been casting for the last hour and was really amazed at the diffrence i was feeling on the bottom!!
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Post by: huntnnw on January 25, 2012, 10:36:58 PM
I think I have 8 or 9 Lamiglass rods, but my one and only Loomis gets used the most. My next rod would either be a Loomis IMX or maybe build a Rainshadow XST.
I have a custom built one I won last year in a steelhead derby ..9ft med....Going to try it for the first time this saturday
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Post by: sirmissalot on January 26, 2012, 08:47:07 AM
Team Loomis all the way! Lamiglas lost my buisness when they started making cheap POS rods in China :twocents:
Do you know who owns Loomis? Shimano... think about it. Loomis used to be a great rod and a great company who would stand behind their well made products.
The majority of my rods are Lami's, I've had great service from them and only a few of the blanks are made out of the country, but are still assembled here in the states.
The only bad things I can say about Fetha Styx is about the jerks they have representing their products on TV... other than that they make GREAT rods and customer service is great as well. I had a good experience with them last year when I had to send them a rod with a chipped ceramic guide and needed it back in time for a major tuna tournament. If I were to switch out my rods from Lami's it would be without a doubt Fetha Styx, the few I do have are amazing rods and so far have been able to withstand the punishment we put them through, throughout the year :tup:
Post by: SeaRun1 on January 26, 2012, 09:26:42 AM
With high end gear it is just another Ford/Chevy/Toyota... debate. Its personal preference. I think where the high end companies set themselves apart is with their customer service. Nobody takes care of you like Sage does, thats why I like them. Lami and Loomis are ok as well. Won't buy a Fetha Styx (or P-Line or Tica for that matter) because of HawgQuest. Cant stand the constant pimping. Like nobody can catch a thing with Izorline or an old school Bantam... I guess thats the way the system works though.
I say fish with what you can afford/like or get a good deal on.
SR1
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Post by: Dhoey07 on January 26, 2012, 09:43:05 AM
Ugly Stik. Only pole I'll ever own. Can't beat the pole for the price
For the price they are great! They will work.......(i got one) but you might double your catch rate with a lami or loomis. :twocents:
Im pretty sure i was drooling the whole time i got to try out a lamiglass, I casted to the same spot i had been casting for the last hour and was really amazed at the diffrence i was feeling on the bottom!!
If you really think that an expensive rod is going to double your catch rate, nothing anybody says will ever change your mind.
Post by: Thefisherman83 on January 26, 2012, 09:58:53 AM
Ugly Stik. Only pole I'll ever own. Can't beat the pole for the price
For the price they are great! They will work.......(i got one) but you might double your catch rate with a lami or loomis. :twocents:
Im pretty sure i was drooling the whole time i got to try out a lamiglass, I casted to the same spot i had been casting for the last hour and was really amazed at the diffrence i was feeling on the bottom!!
If you really think that an expensive rod is going to double your catch rate, nothing anybody says will ever change your mind.
I don't know about doubling your catch, but you can't put a hook into something you can't feel biting.
Post by: sirmissalot on January 26, 2012, 10:04:38 AM
Ugly Stik. Only pole I'll ever own. Can't beat the pole for the price
For the price they are great! They will work.......(i got one) but you might double your catch rate with a lami or loomis. :twocents:
Im pretty sure i was drooling the whole time i got to try out a lamiglass, I casted to the same spot i had been casting for the last hour and was really amazed at the diffrence i was feeling on the bottom!!
If you really think that an expensive rod is going to double your catch rate, nothing anybody says will ever change your mind.
I don't know about doubling your catch, but you can't put a hook into something you can't feel biting.
That is exactly right.
Post by: buckhorn2 on January 26, 2012, 10:10:58 AM
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Post by: TheHunt on January 26, 2012, 12:36:52 PM
1. Feather Stix and XRodz staff do not know how to start a conversation. Heck I went to their display area they had their back to me so I grabed a rod and wipped it in the air. That got their attention.
2. There is new Gary Loomis company called North River Composites. They make a nice blank and there was a company that uses the rod blanks. The rods seamed to be pretty nice. Not sure how they handle broken rods...
3. Lami, Well when I first started I picked up a 110 dollar rod that they do not make any more. I broke about 8 inches off the top. THey do not make it any more so THE COMPANY RULES from Lamiglass is I am in the up grade. The Lamiglass rules are that you get 60% off the MSRP. I looked at the MSRP of the Certified Pro. It is 320 dollars. If I pay the 10 dollars fee for the exchange than add the 60% off I am still shelling out 160 dollars when all I wanted was pay the 10 dollars and get my rod replaced. When people tell me their warrentee is great I am not a believer.
4. The return policy for XRodz and North River Compositis are suspect. But the Feather Stix seams pretty straight forward.
Post by: Dhoey07 on January 26, 2012, 12:41:01 PM
Ugly Stik. Only pole I'll ever own. Can't beat the pole for the price
For the price they are great! They will work.......(i got one) but you might double your catch rate with a lami or loomis. :twocents:
Im pretty sure i was drooling the whole time i got to try out a lamiglass, I casted to the same spot i had been casting for the last hour and was really amazed at the diffrence i was feeling on the bottom!!
If you really think that an expensive rod is going to double your catch rate, nothing anybody says will ever change your mind.
I don't know about doubling your catch, but you can't put a hook into something you can't feel biting.
That is exactly right.
Yes you can. I do it all the time fishing for bass using plastics, you watch your line. As well as bobber fishing for steelhead.
Post by: TheHunt on January 26, 2012, 12:52:22 PM
The same can be said for plunking.
But drift fishing you need a sensitive rod or you need your finger on the line with the pole always pointing at the bait so that you can feel the fish through the line. Most like to use the sensitive rods.
Post by: Dhoey07 on January 26, 2012, 12:59:41 PM
I will agree with your use of the cheapest rod on the market for fishing a bobber. YOu are feeling the fish you are watching an indicator.
The same can be said for plunking.
But drift fishing you need a sensitive rod or you need your finger on the line with the pole always pointing at the bait so that you can feel the fish through the line. Most like to use the sensitive rods.
My point is that most people use the most expensive rod out there to say they have it.
Post by: teal101 on January 26, 2012, 01:26:22 PM
Ugly Stik. Only pole I'll ever own. Can't beat the pole for the price
For the price they are great! They will work.......(i got one) but you might double your catch rate with a lami or loomis. :twocents:
Im pretty sure i was drooling the whole time i got to try out a lamiglass, I casted to the same spot i had been casting for the last hour and was really amazed at the diffrence i was feeling on the bottom!!
If you really think that an expensive rod is going to double your catch rate, nothing anybody says will ever change your mind.
I don't know about doubling your catch, but you can't put a hook into something you can't feel biting.
That is exactly right.
Yes you can. I do it all the time fishing for bass using plastics, you watch your line. As well as bobber fishing for steelhead.
You can watch a bobber or the line with a broomstick or a stick. It's the FEELING that is so much better. Running a nice rod is amazing, especially in cover. When you can easily tell rocks from wood from weeds, from fish tail slapping a lure to fish grabbing a lure, it's worth it.
Post by: JimmyHoffa on January 26, 2012, 01:36:38 PM
Maybe I'm missing something and don't want to put words in his mouth, but fancy rods won't necessarily make you a better fisherman. Most fish only hold in a small percentage of water and are only really targetable under certain conditions using certain methods. You can go buy the absolute best equipment, but if you don't know the keys to fishing the river/lake/surf/fish/moon/gear/etc you will have roughly the same success as if you used the least expensive gear. However, if you do know the 'secrets' any and all improvements in gear should up your odds for success.
For the price they are great! They will work.......(i got one) but you might double your catch rate with a lami or loomis. :twocents:
Im pretty sure i was drooling the whole time i got to try out a lamiglass, I casted to the same spot i had been casting for the last hour and was really amazed at the diffrence i was feeling on the bottom!!
If you really think that an expensive rod is going to double your catch rate, nothing anybody says will ever change your mind.
Post by: Caseyd on January 26, 2012, 01:41:23 PM
Cant beat a local and someone who shares the love of hunting and fishing as much as the rest of us :tup:
Post by: TommyH on January 26, 2012, 06:13:03 PM
Ugly Stik. Only pole I'll ever own. Can't beat the pole for the price
For the price they are great! They will work.......(i got one) but you might double your catch rate with a lami or loomis. :twocents:
Im pretty sure i was drooling the whole time i got to try out a lamiglass, I casted to the same spot i had been casting for the last hour and was really amazed at the diffrence i was feeling on the bottom!!
If you really think that an expensive rod is going to double your catch rate, nothing anybody says will ever change your mind.
I don't know about doubling your catch, but you can't put a hook into something you can't feel biting.
That is exactly right.
Yes you can. I do it all the time fishing for bass using plastics, you watch your line. As well as bobber fishing for steelhead.
You can watch a bobber or the line with a broomstick or a stick. It's the FEELING that is so much better. Running a nice rod is amazing, especially in cover. When you can easily tell rocks from wood from weeds, from fish tail slapping a lure to fish grabbing a lure, it's worth it.
Like i said in my first post you can feel the bottom and you can feel the fish, you can tell the diffrence between the too alot better!!!!!!!! Sure with a bobber you can use whatever pole you got. I use my poles for more than one style of fishing, So on the bottom you feel more you hook more!!!
But use what ever you want, that was just my :twocents: More fish left for me! :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: h2ofowlr on January 26, 2012, 06:22:26 PM
Ugly Stik. Only pole I'll ever own. Can't beat the pole for the price
You hang a flag from a pole and fish with a rod! :chuckle:
Post by: kbyers on January 26, 2012, 08:58:33 PM
Won't buy a Fetha Styx (or P-Line or Tica for that matter) because of HawgQuest. Cant stand the constant pimping.
I don't understand this mentality. To say that you won't use something because of the way it is advertised on one TV show that has nothing to do with the service provided by or the product produced by those companies. Personally I didn't know HawgQuest endorsed those products, I can't stand watching the show.
Post by: Button Nubbs on January 26, 2012, 09:18:21 PM
I don't own any fetha stix but their rods do feel nice. I own about 4 loomis' and 5 lamis (I think) and to be honest they are all nice rods. I find myself using lami more but only because loomis dosent make a 12' 6-12 float rod. I also really like my 9'6" 4-8 lami espirit, but the sensitivity on my loomis imx's can't be touched. My all time fishiest rod is a 10+ year old allstar 10'6" 6-12, its probably caught more fish than all my others put together.
It aint the rod, its the fisherman, that said, you won't catch me using an ugly stik for anything other than sturgeon...
Post by: cohoho on January 26, 2012, 10:29:01 PM
Post by: Bigluke1981 on January 26, 2012, 10:59:38 PM
Post by: jeepster on January 27, 2012, 02:19:16 AM
Post by: TheHunt on January 27, 2012, 07:41:36 AM
Well maybe you got the wrong company....... :tup: I went to "Fetha Styx" show room there in Redmond about a month ago. Great guys inside, very helpful for sure.. I got a smoking deal on a $280 dollar custom oversized rod for $80 bucks on a previously ordered model..... Haven't used it yet, but have a matched Blue 6.4 Avet that is waiting for the first nibble of spring of OS.... Thinking about a re-visit and picking up a higher end salmon rod. I got alot of variations of rods, some are more lucky than others, some are Ugly Sticks and have never had to worry about being outfished too often.. I personally like Ugly sticks for boat rods for everyones use- especially as down rigger rods, as they get abused and handle the different users. On the flip side, I had numerous Lamiglass explode in AK on big kings. Only have two left and would never spend money on another.. I used to fish with guys and their high end Sage rods for Reds and Silvers, uuugh somehow remember my old faithful Ugly Stick light out caught them 5 to 1. Hmmmm... Maybe if I had a $360 rod at the time, I would have gotten a fish on every cast... :chuckle: Or they were really bad fishermen... :dunno: Seriously, nothing like a sensitive rod for sure for feeling every movement, it is truly night and day. But you use what is the price range for you. I only have Ugly Sticks (Tiger Light-Heavy) for Sturgeon on my boat and they seem to work for some reason or another.... And of course just bought Tiger Jigging rods recently for Halibut and other bottom fish, nothing like watching someone bounce a $200 rod up and down on the alum rails of a boat.... Ouch!!!!
I think he was talking about their booth at the sportmen's show in Puyallup that is happening this week.
Post by: cohoho on January 27, 2012, 07:51:45 AM
Post by: MuleySniper on January 27, 2012, 10:17:04 AM
Post by: Rick on January 27, 2012, 10:22:17 AM
I got turned off by the name "Fetha Stix" from the get go!, sounds like some pimp named the rod[/b]
Same here,I wouldn't own one based simply on the stupid name.
Those *censored*es on Hawgquest are strike two.
Post by: MtnMuley on January 27, 2012, 11:39:18 AM
Post by: TheHunt on January 27, 2012, 02:15:36 PM
Just stick with Zebco and you'll be fine.... :chuckle:
I could not agree more. Zebco 808 is all you need. You can use for Carp shooting on your bow then your salmon/steelhead pole.
Post by: BigGoonTuna on January 27, 2012, 05:53:01 PM
Post by: jackelope on January 27, 2012, 11:17:45 PM
Oh...wait, wrong discussion.
I have a Fetha Stix rod, a Lamiglas and a couple Loomis rods. They're all good. So are Ford trucks, Chevy trucks and Dodge trucks.
The guy that owns Fetha Stix, Jim I think his name is, is a stand up guy for sure. Poor customer service will ruin a business....especially at the shows when there's so much exposure to it.
Post by: TheHunt on January 28, 2012, 07:24:26 AM
Lami replacement warranty sucks.
Post by: SeaRun1 on January 28, 2012, 08:26:12 AM
Won't buy a Fetha Styx (or P-Line or Tica for that matter) because of HawgQuest. Cant stand the constant pimping.
I don't understand this mentality. To say that you won't use something because of the way it is advertised on one TV show that has nothing to do with the service provided by or the product produced by those companies. Personally I didn't know HawgQuest endorsed those products, I can't stand watching the show.
Logically I see your point and you are right. I have nothing against the companies mentioned but if I buy their products it will remind me of that show. It's like this argument of which rods are better... it's personal.
SR1
Post by: TheHunt on January 28, 2012, 10:21:49 AM
1. Is it showing you a river or location you can fish or hunt?
2. Is the show going to provide you a recipe for brine, cure, bait, ?
3. Is the show going to show you a set up that you do not know about?
If the answer is no, than it is only for your own entertainment and nothing else.
Post by: sirmissalot on January 29, 2012, 03:07:27 PM
It is all opinions with rod choice... I do not like Lami because of how I was treated with my replacement rod. So when someone says their replacement rod warranty is fantastic all I say wait until you come in with a rod they do not make any more. Than you get bent over with no lube.
Lami replacement warranty sucks.
Interesting, I broke a steelhead rod this summer that is no longer made, they let me upgrade to the newer better rod and only had to pay the difference in price from the value of the old rod and the new rod, seemed pretty good to me. I understand and agree with you though, once you lose confidence in a company it's hard to believe in any of their products anymore.
Post by: TheHunt on January 29, 2012, 09:38:17 PM
Post by: Wa hunter on January 29, 2012, 09:56:41 PM
Post by: huntnnw on January 29, 2012, 10:28:52 PM
I will agree with your use of the cheapest rod on the market for fishing a bobber. YOu are feeling the fish you are watching an indicator.
The same can be said for plunking.
But drift fishing you need a sensitive rod or you need your finger on the line with the pole always pointing at the bait so that you can feel the fish through the line. Most like to use the sensitive rods.
My point is that most people use the most expensive rod out there to say they have it.
Not I..I fished for years(drift fishing) for steelhead with cheapo rods..I got a lamiglass and wow was there a difference in what one can feel.. I now have Loomis, a custom built rod and several other lamiglass rods..0 comparison in what one can feel with a high quality rod. It may be 1 or 2 fish more a day, but thats a big difference on a day when thats all you hooked :)
Post by: TommyH on January 30, 2012, 08:56:59 AM
I will agree with your use of the cheapest rod on the market for fishing a bobber. YOu are feeling the fish you are watching an indicator.
The same can be said for plunking.
But drift fishing you need a sensitive rod or you need your finger on the line with the pole always pointing at the bait so that you can feel the fish through the line. Most like to use the sensitive rods.
My point is that most people use the most expensive rod out there to say they have it.
Not I..I fished for years(drift fishing) for steelhead with cheapo rods..I got a lamiglass and wow was there a difference in what one can feel.. I now have Loomis, a custom built rod and several other lamiglass rods..0 comparison in what one can feel with a high quality rod. It may be 1 or 2 fish more a day, but thats a big difference on a day when thats all you hooked :)
:tup: :yeah: I was trying to say the same thing, but you cant convince em all, thats ok! few more fish in the river!
Post by: Dhoey07 on January 30, 2012, 09:05:04 AM
Post by: Panic Minnow on January 30, 2012, 10:32:42 AM
Post by: PolarBear on January 30, 2012, 10:47:08 AM
Post by: Button Nubbs on January 30, 2012, 10:55:43 AM
Post by: provider on January 30, 2012, 11:32:28 AM
We should support the people that support our causes.
Post by: TommyH on January 30, 2012, 06:58:54 PM
You guys keep buying your 200 dollar rods and parading around in your shiny waders and fancy fanny packs. I'll keep my 60 dollar, 15 year old quantum rod and my 1980's 1310, egg crusted vest with old wood shavings from shrimp cartons in it and we will see who catches more fish :chuckle:
Lets meet up and see how it goes!! :tup: Any fishing trip sounds like a good time! But i dont have any shiny waders, :'( or a fancy fanny pack. I will be the guy in the red FORD!!! :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Dhoey07 on January 31, 2012, 07:07:11 AM
You guys keep buying your 200 dollar rods and parading around in your shiny waders and fancy fanny packs. I'll keep my 60 dollar, 15 year old quantum rod and my 1980's 1310, egg crusted vest with old wood shavings from shrimp cartons in it and we will see who catches more fish :chuckle:
Lets meet up and see how it goes!! :tup: Any fishing trip sounds like a good time! But i dont have any shiny waders, :'( or a fancy fanny pack. I will be the guy in the red FORD!!! :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Haha, I'll be the guy in the gray GMC lol. Are you a eastsider or a webfooter?
Post by: teal101 on January 31, 2012, 07:39:22 AM
Once again, as in anything it isn't as much the equipment but the person using it.
Having the best tools for the job doesn't hurt ;)
Post by: teal101 on January 31, 2012, 07:42:56 AM
There are plenty of custom blanks out there that are better than the Loomis, Lamiglass, and FethaSticks. Plenty of other rod blanks out there that can be custom built to perform circles around these guys, but getting consistancy and warranty is usually the issue with the small custom rod guys.
That and you're generally looking at a higher price tag. There really arent many blanks yet that can compete at the G.Loomis NRX, Lamiglas Si, St.Croix Legend Extreme level. The new 3M graphite that just came out is quite sensitive. Those Lamiglas Si's felt amazing!
Post by: TommyH on January 31, 2012, 07:44:30 AM
Once again, as in anything it isn't as much the equipment but the person using it.
Having the best tools for the job doesn't hurt ;)
:tup: :yeah:
Post by: TommyH on January 31, 2012, 07:45:43 AM
Post by: sirmissalot on January 31, 2012, 08:25:44 AM
:yeah: I own several high end rods, but to say a nicer rod will catch more fish is like saying a brand new bow will kill more bulls... :chuckle:
Except you aren't hunting bulls by feel... so its actually not the same at all.
Its not even about catching more fish with a better quality rod, its that you can actually feel whats on the end of the line. I have fished with plenty of noodle like rods, most fiberglass rods made for downriggers have a great parabolic bend to them... but no backbone. When downrigger fishing you obviously don't need to feel the bite, but I would much rather enjoy fighting a fish with a good graphite/fiberglass blended rod than a cheapo fiberglass rod. I know I'm off topic now but... same goes for fishing rivers, sure you can float a bobber through a hole and hook a fish with an ugly stik, to each their own I guess, just not something I would prefer.
Post by: Button Nubbs on January 31, 2012, 09:27:08 AM
But hey, if using a top of the line rod makes you think you'll catch more fish then by all means keep buying them. Confidence is everything, if you don't have it you won't catch em.
I'm still with polar bear on this one...
Post by: cohoho on January 31, 2012, 09:55:30 AM
Post by: PolarBear on January 31, 2012, 10:42:28 AM
Post by: TommyH on January 31, 2012, 10:55:48 AM
Post by: sirmissalot on January 31, 2012, 11:03:23 AM
My cousins and I have caught more steelhead plunking with an old ugly stick downrigger rod and a $60 Okuma 9 1/2' spinning rod than most folks will catch in a life time. :chuckle: I have several friends who fish every single weekend for either steelhead or salmon. These guys catch literally hundreds of fish per year and their favorite rods?................... Cheap Okuma's!
:tup:
You and your cousins are the masterbaiters :bow:
Post by: Button Nubbs on January 31, 2012, 11:13:27 AM
My cousins and I have caught more steelhead plunking with an old ugly stick downrigger rod and a $60 Okuma 9 1/2' spinning rod than most folks will catch in a life time. :chuckle: I have several friends who fish every single weekend for either steelhead or salmon. These guys catch literally hundreds of fish per year and their favorite rods?................... Cheap Okuma's!
how did people ever catch steelhead and salmon in the 60's and 70's? i mean that was before float fishing and before super fancy rods. :dunno: :dunno: :dunno:
Post by: sirmissalot on January 31, 2012, 11:20:35 AM
My cousins and I have caught more steelhead plunking with an old ugly stick downrigger rod and a $60 Okuma 9 1/2' spinning rod than most folks will catch in a life time. :chuckle: I have several friends who fish every single weekend for either steelhead or salmon. These guys catch literally hundreds of fish per year and their favorite rods?................... Cheap Okuma's!
how did people ever catch steelhead and salmon in the 60's and 70's? i mean that was before float fishing and before super fancy rods. :dunno: :dunno: :dunno:
You two are the only ones saying you need fancy rods to catch salmon and steelhead. I simply said what brands I prefer. I also prefer Ford over Chevy and Dodge, but all three will work.
Post by: Holg3107 on January 31, 2012, 11:42:13 AM
For me I found the best bang for your buck is St. Croix. For around $100-$150 I get a rod that I have the utmost confidence will get the job done the way I want to get the job done. For many its a $30 dollar Ugly Stick, for others its a $350 IMX Loomis. No reason to trash either of them! as long as everyones having a good time and stands behind the gear and techniques they are using it really doesn't matter. :twocents:
Post by: Panic Minnow on January 31, 2012, 12:04:16 PM
Time is valuable, and so is gas these days, so I want to maximize both.
I still let the kracker I am taking fishing use a crap rod for what it is worth.
Post by: TommyH on January 31, 2012, 03:15:20 PM
No ones saying that you cant catch fish with inexpensive equipment. All that people are saying is that you can have a better experience with better gear. If you have never used some of the gear that's been mentioned you don't know the difference and therefore the point is mute. You can golf with a $30 set of clubs from Goodwill and shoot a 90 if you've never held another golf club or used anything different then those clubs are fine until you grab a set of Callaways and go out and shoot an 85. Yea its only a 5 shot difference and in the end who cares, but you may have a better time doing it and feel more confident in what you are doing. Will ugly stix catch fish? OF COURSE THEY WILL! A god damned pool cue with some line on the end will as well. Everyone has their preferences.
For me I found the best bang for your buck is St. Croix. For around $100-$150 I get a rod that I have the utmost confidence will get the job done the way I want to get the job done. For many its a $30 dollar Ugly Stick, for others its a $350 IMX Loomis. No reason to trash either of them! as long as everyones having a good time and stands behind the gear and techniques they are using it really doesn't matter. :twocents:
:tup: :yeah:
Post by: sirmissalot on January 31, 2012, 03:17:15 PM
No ones saying that you cant catch fish with inexpensive equipment. All that people are saying is that you can have a better experience with better gear. If you have never used some of the gear that's been mentioned you don't know the difference and therefore the point is mute. You can golf with a $30 set of clubs from Goodwill and shoot a 90 if you've never held another golf club or used anything different then those clubs are fine until you grab a set of Callaways and go out and shoot an 85. Yea its only a 5 shot difference and in the end who cares, but you may have a better time doing it and feel more confident in what you are doing. Will ugly stix catch fish? OF COURSE THEY WILL! A god damned pool cue with some line on the end will as well. Everyone has their preferences.
For me I found the best bang for your buck is St. Croix. For around $100-$150 I get a rod that I have the utmost confidence will get the job done the way I want to get the job done. For many its a $30 dollar Ugly Stick, for others its a $350 IMX Loomis. No reason to trash either of them! as long as everyones having a good time and stands behind the gear and techniques they are using it really doesn't matter. :twocents:
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Post by: teal101 on January 31, 2012, 03:34:11 PM
No ones saying that you cant catch fish with inexpensive equipment. All that people are saying is that you can have a better experience with better gear. If you have never used some of the gear that's been mentioned you don't know the difference and therefore the point is mute. You can golf with a $30 set of clubs from Goodwill and shoot a 90 if you've never held another golf club or used anything different then those clubs are fine until you grab a set of Callaways and go out and shoot an 85. Yea its only a 5 shot difference and in the end who cares, but you may have a better time doing it and feel more confident in what you are doing. Will ugly stix catch fish? OF COURSE THEY WILL! A god damned pool cue with some line on the end will as well. Everyone has their preferences.
For me I found the best bang for your buck is St. Croix. For around $100-$150 I get a rod that I have the utmost confidence will get the job done the way I want to get the job done. For many its a $30 dollar Ugly Stick, for others its a $350 IMX Loomis. No reason to trash either of them! as long as everyones having a good time and stands behind the gear and techniques they are using it really doesn't matter. :twocents:
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Post by: TheHunt on January 31, 2012, 04:28:29 PM
I just want to fish with people that have the same likes that I do...
Post by: Wa hunter on January 31, 2012, 04:39:00 PM
Post by: throttlejocky20 on January 31, 2012, 06:02:32 PM
Post by: SeaRun1 on January 31, 2012, 06:16:09 PM
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Post by: Dhoey07 on January 31, 2012, 06:38:03 PM
My cousins and I have caught more steelhead plunking with an old ugly stick downrigger rod and a $60 Okuma 9 1/2' spinning rod than most folks will catch in a life time. :chuckle: I have several friends who fish every single weekend for either steelhead or salmon. These guys catch literally hundreds of fish per year and their favorite rods?................... Cheap Okuma's!
how did people ever catch steelhead and salmon in the 60's and 70's? i mean that was before float fishing and before super fancy rods. :dunno: :dunno: :dunno:
Apparently they only caught half as many :chuckle:
Post by: teal101 on January 31, 2012, 09:37:08 PM
Post by: huntnnw on January 31, 2012, 10:00:53 PM
Post by: TommyH on January 31, 2012, 10:07:47 PM
thing is some people here are talking about bobber fishing, downrigging and trolling it doesnt matter what the hell your using....when your bouncing the bottom feel is everything! the lighter the rod the more one will feel and thats where the highend rods come into play not to include the repetitive casting in a day it takes a toll on your elbow and wrist. dont even get me started about guys and cheap reels vs nice reels those are worth there weight in gold!
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Post by: TommyH on January 31, 2012, 10:13:39 PM
It seems like alot of our fisheries in this state are not "group" fisheries. I would be interested in going fishing with some guys on the board. I am gearing up for the Columbia springer season coming up if anyone wants to talk springers.
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Springers-- :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: ........sleepless nights dreaming of fighting that monster....days filled with checking the dam counts over and over...... I cant wait! :tup:
Post by: huntnnw on January 31, 2012, 10:23:24 PM
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Post by: Button Nubbs on January 31, 2012, 10:43:25 PM
I agree! This year is supposed to be great! With like the 4th biggest run to date. Hope they are right about that! Ok I won't thread jack anymore :chuckle:
dont get me started about the dfw and their "projections" :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: huntnnw on January 31, 2012, 10:46:25 PM
Post by: carpsniperg2 on January 31, 2012, 10:47:18 PM
Post by: jechicdr on January 31, 2012, 11:06:54 PM
Ugly Stik. Only pole I'll ever own. Can't beat the pole for the price
For the price they are great! They will work.......(i got one) but you might double your catch rate with a lami or loomis. :twocents:
Im pretty sure i was drooling the whole time i got to try out a lamiglass, I casted to the same spot i had been casting for the last hour and was really amazed at the diffrence i was feeling on the bottom!!
How exactly would a lamiglass or loomis double your catch rate? I caught an 8 foot sturgeon off the dock below beacon rock with a 12 foot ugly stick and that pole was bent nearly in half under the dock. Don't think you can bend a lamiglass under the dock without something giving. When it broke, sure they'd replace it, but I don't think it would catch more fish.
Knee jerk response when I read the post. I could see drifting for steelhead with a lamiglass would improve catch rate. I have an ultralight ugly stick (darn sensitive) that I use for stocked trout. My bass rods are all ugly sticks. My Point Wilson Dart/Buzz bomb casting rod is a 10 foot ugly stick. Catfishing rods, would not use anything but an ugly stick.
Post by: TommyH on February 01, 2012, 07:14:43 AM
Ugly Stik. Only pole I'll ever own. Can't beat the pole for the price
For the price they are great! They will work.......(i got one) but you might double your catch rate with a lami or loomis. :twocents:
Im pretty sure i was drooling the whole time i got to try out a lamiglass, I casted to the same spot i had been casting for the last hour and was really amazed at the diffrence i was feeling on the bottom!!
How exactly would a lamiglass or loomis double your catch rate? I caught an 8 foot sturgeon off the dock below beacon rock with a 12 foot ugly stick and that pole was bent nearly in half under the dock. Don't think you can bend a lamiglass under the dock without something giving. When it broke, sure they'd replace it, but I don't think it would catch more fish.
Knee jerk response when I read the post. I could see drifting for steelhead with a lamiglass would improve catch rate. I have an ultralight ugly stick (darn sensitive) that I use for stocked trout. My bass rods are all ugly sticks. My Point Wilson Dart/Buzz bomb casting rod is a 10 foot ugly stick. Catfishing rods, would not use anything but an ugly stick.
read the other posts it has been explained many times :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Antlershed on February 01, 2012, 07:45:15 AM
:yeah: :bash:I agree! This year is supposed to be great! With like the 4th biggest run to date. Hope they are right about that! Ok I won't thread jack anymore :chuckle:
dont get me started about the dfw and their "projections" :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: BigGoonTuna on February 01, 2012, 08:36:36 AM
i feel there's sort of a curve to things. up to about 100 bucks, things get drastically better in terms of quality. after that, quality still improves but "bang for your buck" goes out the window. buying an ultra-high modulus rod is not gonna make you a better fisherman. but feel better in your hand, and be more enjoyable to fish with? definitely!
for the record, most of my rods are built from blanks that i pick up on sale at the online rod building outlets, and anglers workshop. i can build a rod that looks and fishes nicer than anything you'll find on a rod rack at 1/3 the price in most cases. much more satisfying catching fish on rods i build myself.
Post by: cohoho on February 01, 2012, 09:54:58 AM
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Post by: BigGoonTuna on February 01, 2012, 08:00:52 PM
now i'll usually build them over a couple days, first day i ream and glue the handles, then next day i'll lay out the guides and start wrapping(if it's a shorter rod i'll just wrap it all in one shot), then depending on what i want it to look like, apply a couple coats of color preserver(i usually allow a day between coats and a few days before finishing), then the finish. sounds more complicated than it is, the last several rods i built i didn't even use color preserver.
Post by: huntnnw on February 01, 2012, 10:43:58 PM
Post by: teal101 on February 02, 2012, 08:23:10 AM
Post by: SeaRun1 on February 02, 2012, 09:04:24 AM
I AM SO READY FOR THE SPRINGERS :drool: I hope to slay more fish this year. Had a epic year 2 years ago then a slow year this last year. Heck I think I only got 5 salmon and 4 steelhead.
About the same for me as well. I did much better in the summer fishery then the true Springer fishery. The lower water levels this year will change that. Should be about time to see the first Springer of the year caught. I am sure one has been caught by now.
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Post by: huntnnw on February 02, 2012, 09:06:57 AM