Post by: Stilly bay on January 30, 2012, 01:48:13 PM
is it a dream gun you could never afford?
is it an old clunker that belonged to your grandfather and you sold it cause you didn't know any better?
what gauge? and how does gauge pertain to your hunting style?
anything goes and by the way... for the sake of this thread - the ban on lead shot has been lifted :hello:
Post by: Dhoey07 on January 30, 2012, 01:53:51 PM
Post by: bobcat on January 30, 2012, 02:16:43 PM
Never forget the time, somewhere around a decade ago, opening day of pheasant season in SE Wa, just me and my German Shorthair. It's only about 5 minutes into legal hunting time and I'm on the edge of a wheat stubble field, no other hunters around for at least a mile. Dog goes on point, a rooster gets up, boom he goes down, while 30 or 40 more pheasants get up right in front of me- boom, boom, two more roosters down.
Got my three bird limit in less than ten seconds and I'm done for the day. Just wish there would have been a witness to that.
Post by: Stilly bay on January 30, 2012, 03:14:14 PM
I was damn close to buying an breta 20gauge over under this year at a gun show in spokane. If i wasn't buying a house right now I would have. Not exactly a "dream" gun, but i would love to pack that through the fields.I have been saving up for a 20gauge beretta for a while now. I figure if I can get my hands on a couple solid over unders, and maybe a dedicated target gun I would be set for life.... yeah right :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Stilly bay on January 30, 2012, 03:20:40 PM
Remington model 1100 semi-auto 20 gauge, 28 inch modified barrel. Got it for Christmas when I was 11. Can't miss with that gun, it fits perfect, even 33 years later. For wild pheasants though, I most often pack a 12 gauge.
my friends dad has a 12gauge 1100. it is big, bulky and awkward and I CAN'T MISS with the freaking thing. I have never had higher scores so consistently with any other gun. one of these days I will be adding an 1100 to my arsenal.
Post by: Dhoey07 on January 30, 2012, 03:30:26 PM
I was damn close to buying an breta 20gauge over under this year at a gun show in spokane. If i wasn't buying a house right now I would have. Not exactly a "dream" gun, but i would love to pack that through the fields.I have been saving up for a 20gauge beretta for a while now. I figure if I can get my hands on a couple solid over unders, and maybe a dedicated target gun I would be set for life.... yeah right :chuckle: :chuckle:
This was a Breta, not a beretta, but i hear ya. I tried telling myself that is all i would need, lol
Post by: singleshot12 on January 30, 2012, 03:30:59 PM
Post by: bobcat on January 30, 2012, 03:38:44 PM
Remington model 1100 semi-auto 20 gauge, 28 inch modified barrel. Got it for Christmas when I was 11. Can't miss with that gun, it fits perfect, even 33 years later. For wild pheasants though, I most often pack a 12 gauge.
my friends dad has a 12gauge 1100. it is big, bulky and awkward and I CAN'T MISS with the freaking thing. I have never had higher scores so consistently with any other gun. one of these days I will be adding an 1100 to my arsenal.
I forgot to say, my 20 gauge is the special lightweight model. It is not heavy and not bulky, and like I said, fits me perfect. Although I have had my share of experience with the full size 1100's and I did shoot well with them also, but I wouldn't want to pack one all day while hunting pheasant or chukar.
Post by: Kola16 on January 30, 2012, 03:47:15 PM
Post by: Stilly bay on January 30, 2012, 03:47:58 PM
I was damn close to buying an breta 20gauge over under this year at a gun show in spokane. If i wasn't buying a house right now I would have. Not exactly a "dream" gun, but i would love to pack that through the fields.I have been saving up for a 20gauge beretta for a while now. I figure if I can get my hands on a couple solid over unders, and maybe a dedicated target gun I would be set for life.... yeah right :chuckle: :chuckle:
This was a Breta, not a beretta, but i hear ya. I tried telling myself that is all i would need, lol
whoa, never heard of a Breta. google had a hard time with it also. got any reference pics?
those old Husqvarna's are pretty sweet. sometimes they come up on the net for a real steal.
Post by: Stilly bay on January 30, 2012, 03:52:26 PM
Husqvarna side by side 20 ga. would be my first choice. First shotgun I ever shot at 8 yrs old and remember blasting a tin can to smitherings in mid air.. So if anyone has one or knows of one for sale for a reasonable or trade let me know
guns international has one in 16 gauge, looks like a lot of gun for the money.
http://www.gunsinternational.com/Husqvarna-16ga-with-Hammers.cfm?gun_id=100166057
Post by: singleshot12 on January 30, 2012, 04:12:29 PM
Post by: RadSav on January 30, 2012, 04:28:56 PM
Post by: Stilly bay on January 30, 2012, 04:46:08 PM
singleshot12, get some sleeves for the Husqvarna and drop it down to 20gauge, and you would have one hell of a spiffy steel shot safe pheasant gun.
Post by: Dhoey07 on January 30, 2012, 04:54:39 PM
I was damn close to buying an breta 20gauge over under this year at a gun show in spokane. If i wasn't buying a house right now I would have. Not exactly a "dream" gun, but i would love to pack that through the fields.I have been saving up for a 20gauge beretta for a while now. I figure if I can get my hands on a couple solid over unders, and maybe a dedicated target gun I would be set for life.... yeah right :chuckle: :chuckle:
This was a Breta, not a beretta, but i hear ya. I tried telling myself that is all i would need, lol
whoa, never heard of a Breta. google had a hard time with it also. got any reference pics?
those old Husqvarna's are pretty sweet. sometimes they come up on the net for a real steal.
Damn that took some digging. It would help if i spelt the name right. It is Breda Pegaso. Here ya go!
http://www.paciko.com/web/subweb/breda2E.htm
Post by: wadu1 on January 30, 2012, 05:08:02 PM
Post by: RadSav on January 30, 2012, 05:18:59 PM
Post by: Stilly bay on January 30, 2012, 05:28:06 PM
For an auto fan I'd take a look at the Franchi's. Super light, doesn't twist in the hand like the Remington, swings like a double gun and extremely affordable. Available in 20 or 28 gauge. They are sweet. I use one a lot when I'm quail hunting.
is the superlight the same as the AL48? I would love to do side by side comparison of a franchi al48 and is more expensive cousin the benelli ultralight. I have heard a lot of goods about both.
Post by: hillbilli on January 30, 2012, 05:29:45 PM
Post by: singleshot12 on January 30, 2012, 05:36:49 PM
singleshot12, get some sleeves for the Husqvarna and drop it down to 20gauge, and you would have one hell of a spiffy steel shot safe pheasant gun.
Good point on putting the sleeves in and Spiffy yes but after looking at that Pegaso o/u it's got me thinking if the Husky is even practical. Awe hell I'll just get both and while i'm at it I'll get that Browning citori too that I've always wanted. Might have to apply for second mortgage but atleast it would satisfy my double barrel fetish. I know! just one! :bash:
Post by: RadSav on January 30, 2012, 05:47:04 PM
For an auto fan I'd take a look at the Franchi's. Super light, doesn't twist in the hand like the Remington, swings like a double gun and extremely affordable. Available in 20 or 28 gauge. They are sweet. I use one a lot when I'm quail hunting.
is the superlight the same as the AL48? I would love to do side by side comparison of a franchi al48 and is more expensive cousin the benelli ultralight. I have heard a lot of goods about both.
All the 48's are super light. Although the 28 gauge is now only available in the Fenice. At least that is what I have been told recently.
The Benelli Ultralight is very much like the Franchi. Only held it in my hands at the store. I have yet to shoot it to see the differences in feel upon shooting, but for the same price you can come close to the Fenice which is as good a looking a gun as you will find in an auto loading uplander. The nickle work is amazing on that gun and less than $1,400.00 MSRP.
Post by: BLR 243 on January 30, 2012, 05:51:38 PM
Post by: Andrew on January 30, 2012, 08:01:54 PM
Only downside, I try to keep a spent shell from every hunt (if I'm lucky to shoot), and put some sort of note of the day afield...guess sort of like a journal, however, the ejector throws the shells to where I can't find them. Intent is to give the shotgun w/ all my hulls/stories to my son's kid (if I'm lucky) someday.
Post by: dawei on January 30, 2012, 08:14:43 PM
My 1921 Ithaca® Lefever® 16ga SxS, I acquired in 1965. I've taken everything possible with this gun over five decades; Deer, Ducks, Geese, Grouse, Pheasants, Quail, Rabbits, Squirrels, and Turkey. If that gun is not available (Steel shot required on Game Dept lands); I use my Remington® SPR220 20ga SxS (Baikal® IZH-43).
My 16 is my primary "Bunny Buster" these days when I go out with my brace of Beagles. In a few more years it will go to my son & grandson. (At 7 years old he is already proficient with a H&R® youth single shot 410.)There is a lot of history to that 16ga SxS..........
• John Franklin 1869-1933
• Eldon Grant 1914-1983
• David Wayne 1950-
• Michael David 1971-
• Jayden Michael 2004-
Post by: Old Dog on January 31, 2012, 12:36:34 AM
I have a number of the Beretta Pigeons in 20 gauge. I use the Silver III most often for upland. The Diamond is just too dang pretty to bang up. I have been looking at the Browning Cynergy Feather in 20. Seems to be calling my name awefully loud. Though I find it hard to believe it will out shoot the Beretta.
I have the Cynegy Feather in 20 GA with the 28" barrels. It is my go to gun for all my upland hunting.
Post by: RadSav on January 31, 2012, 12:38:41 AM
I have a number of the Beretta Pigeons in 20 gauge. I use the Silver III most often for upland. The Diamond is just too dang pretty to bang up. I have been looking at the Browning Cynergy Feather in 20. Seems to be calling my name awefully loud. Though I find it hard to believe it will out shoot the Beretta.
I have the Cynegy Feather in 20 GA with the 28" barrels. It is my go to gun for all my upland hunting.
Damn! Now I'm going to have to go buy another gun :'(
Post by: Kowsrule30 on January 31, 2012, 11:26:55 AM
Post by: Emptyhanded on January 31, 2012, 12:17:19 PM
Post by: AWS on January 31, 2012, 05:47:00 PM
12ga, 28" barrels. straight grip and selective auto ejectors, weight 6 lbs even. Very strong action, they even build double rifles on it. It is oh so nice to carry and handles like Ferarri.
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Post by: Mr56Jeep on February 01, 2012, 12:47:59 PM
And countless upland birds :chuckle:
Post by: dawei on February 01, 2012, 01:49:46 PM
I took a limit of geese with my Beretta 686 in 20 gauge this year :tup:What non toxic load were you using please?
And countless upland birds :chuckle:
Post by: Mr56Jeep on February 01, 2012, 01:57:26 PM
I took a limit of geese with my Beretta 686 in 20 gauge this year :tup:What non toxic load were you using please?
And countless upland birds :chuckle:
It was the winchester 10 shells per box stuff.... I think it was this stuff.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ammoland.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F11%2FWinchester-Super-Elite-Ammunition-PDX112.jpg&hash=9c36bf89b6c2dd28e3d7bb8dca78049ec369b9cc)
Post by: Fowlweather25 on February 01, 2012, 02:01:57 PM
Post by: CP on February 01, 2012, 02:06:24 PM
Post by: Fowlweather25 on February 01, 2012, 02:08:45 PM
Post by: C-Money on February 01, 2012, 02:20:11 PM
Kolar = :drool:
Post by: dawei on February 01, 2012, 02:38:38 PM
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm last time I checked those loads were Pb, not non toxic. Also, they are only offered in 12 ga; not 20 ga..........I took a limit of geese with my Beretta 686 in 20 gauge this year :tup:What non toxic load were you using please?
And countless upland birds :chuckle:
It was the winchester 10 shells per box stuff.... I think it was this stuff.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ammoland.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2009%2F11%2FWinchester-Super-Elite-Ammunition-PDX112.jpg&hash=9c36bf89b6c2dd28e3d7bb8dca78049ec369b9cc)
• http://www.winchester.com/Products/shotshell-ammunition/supreme-elite/pdx112/Pages/S12PDX1.aspx
Post by: Fowlweather25 on February 01, 2012, 02:44:16 PM
Post by: dawei on February 01, 2012, 02:54:57 PM
Post by: Stilly bay on February 01, 2012, 03:31:49 PM
:nono: :bs:
we really need the rest of the story, maybe it was self defense against those belligerent and recalcitrant park geese that always get up in peoples business... at least a mugger won't crap on you after he beats you up. :yike:
Post by: CP on February 01, 2012, 06:08:30 PM
:nono: :bs:
we really need the rest of the story, maybe it was self defense against those belligerent and recalcitrant park geese that always get up in peoples business... at least a mugger won't crap on you after he beats you up. :yike:
recalcitrant , good word. I had to look that one up.
:kneel:
Post by: RadSav on February 01, 2012, 06:58:59 PM
As I remember those park geese down by the Olympia brewery were mean and tough when I was a kid. Would have liked to have some Self defence loads for them back then.
Post by: Mr56Jeep on February 01, 2012, 07:01:24 PM
:bash: OK, thats what I get for trying to do some Googling..... :chuckle:
Here is a picture of the actual box... I also saved the 5 shells that I shot that day (Ya, I needed a follow up shot on one bird :dunno: )
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Post by: Dhoey07 on February 01, 2012, 07:10:40 PM
Post by: Mr56Jeep on February 01, 2012, 07:31:52 PM
Gotta watch out for those Internet police!!! :chuckle:
Ya, I guess ... Sheeeeeesh!!!
But I think I asked for that one :chuckle:
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Post by: C-Money on February 01, 2012, 08:05:13 PM
:chuckle: :chuckle:
I want a Kolar some day.
Post by: Dhoey07 on February 01, 2012, 08:07:36 PM
Gotta watch out for those Internet police!!! :chuckle:
Ya, I guess ... Sheeeeeesh!!!
But I think I asked for that one :chuckle:
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I really don't give a chit if you shoot geese with lead or any other material for that matter. It isn't going to hurt a damn thing!!!
Post by: Fowlweather25 on February 01, 2012, 10:12:38 PM
Post by: Birdguy on February 02, 2012, 08:05:21 PM
Post by: fethrduster on February 03, 2012, 06:05:37 PM
Husqvarna side by side 20 ga. would be my first choice. First shotgun I ever shot at 8 yrs old and remember blasting a tin can to smitherings in mid air.. So if anyone has one or knows of one for sale for a reasonable or trade let me know
I don't know of any in 20ga, but I know of several Husky hammer guns available in 16ga, which is a much better all around upland gauge than 20ga anyway. And yes, ammo is easy to find if you look for it. Here's my Husky 44 (only one of its kind I know of):
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Post by: singleshot12 on February 03, 2012, 06:32:43 PM
Post by: fethrduster on February 03, 2012, 06:59:13 PM
Post by: BigGoonTuna on February 04, 2012, 05:05:44 PM
Post by: AWS on February 04, 2012, 06:44:59 PM
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Post by: dawei on February 04, 2012, 07:53:06 PM
wingmaster. 20 gauge, or 12 if shooting steel.IMHO it is not what you shoot, but more of how you shoot. On the the WW Pheasant Release sites (Ft. Lewis, Scatter Creek, & Skookumchuck); I hunt w/my 20ga SxS and cleanly harvest birds out to 40 yards with these two loads..........
• Federal® Prairie Storm™ ⅞oz #4 FS Steel™ (#PFS207FS 4)
• Federal® Prairie Storm™ ⅞oz #3 FS Steel™ (#PFS207FS 3)
Post by: Stilly bay on February 04, 2012, 08:20:10 PM
wingmaster. 20 gauge, or 12 if shooting steel.IMHO it is not what you shoot, but more of how you shoot. On the the WW Pheasant Release sites (Ft. Lewis, Scatter Creek, & Skookumchuck); I hunt w/my 20ga SxS and cleanly harvest birds out to 40 yards with these two loads..........
• Federal® Prairie Storm™ ⅞oz #4 FS Steel™ (#PFS207FS 4)
• Federal® Prairie Storm™ ⅞oz #3 FS Steel™ (#PFS207FS 3)
:yeah: I will add that over a pointing dog a 28gauge is more than adequate for a release site pheasant (unless they start acting like wild birds). for this coming pheasant release season I think Im going to just stick with the 28 and hand loads for long tails. I usually pack around a 12 just incase I can scratch down a duck or a goose, but my Gordon setter told me last season that waterfowl are not in his contract and he will not touch them under any circumstances.... sooooo im just gonna stick with the light artillery and be Mr. coolguy with the 28gauge. 8)
Post by: fethrduster on February 05, 2012, 07:33:36 AM
wingmaster. 20 gauge, or 12 if shooting steel.IMHO it is not what you shoot, but more of how you shoot. On the the WW Pheasant Release sites (Ft. Lewis, Scatter Creek, & Skookumchuck); I hunt w/my 20ga SxS and cleanly harvest birds out to 40 yards with these two loads..........
• Federal® Prairie Storm™ ⅞oz #4 FS Steel™ (#PFS207FS 4)
• Federal® Prairie Storm™ ⅞oz #3 FS Steel™ (#PFS207FS 3)
:yeah: I will add that over a pointing dog a 28gauge is more than adequate for a release site pheasant (unless they start acting like wild birds). for this coming pheasant release season I think Im going to just stick with the 28 and hand loads for long tails. I usually pack around a 12 just incase I can scratch down a duck or a goose, but my Gordon setter told me last season that waterfowl are not in his contract and he will not touch them under any circumstances.... sooooo im just gonna stick with the light artillery and be Mr. coolguy with the 28gauge. 8)
Stilly, are you shooting Nice Shot or ITX in your 28? I agree that just about any shotgun will work on release site pheasants out to normal ranges. My 6.6lb Lefever 12ga was a death stick on ditch parrots for me last year (I went 12 for 12 with it), but it should be, getting to use 2.5" #5 tungsten/matrix loads and all:
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi81.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj231%2Fmarklart%2FP1040999.jpg&hash=e04e9c7fb8c8618e4734bf0d13650dba682596cb)
Post by: Stilly bay on February 05, 2012, 06:45:13 PM
wingmaster. 20 gauge, or 12 if shooting steel.IMHO it is not what you shoot, but more of how you shoot. On the the WW Pheasant Release sites (Ft. Lewis, Scatter Creek, & Skookumchuck); I hunt w/my 20ga SxS and cleanly harvest birds out to 40 yards with these two loads..........
• Federal® Prairie Storm™ ⅞oz #4 FS Steel™ (#PFS207FS 4)
• Federal® Prairie Storm™ ⅞oz #3 FS Steel™ (#PFS207FS 3)
:yeah: I will add that over a pointing dog a 28gauge is more than adequate for a release site pheasant (unless they start acting like wild birds). for this coming pheasant release season I think Im going to just stick with the 28 and hand loads for long tails. I usually pack around a 12 just incase I can scratch down a duck or a goose, but my Gordon setter told me last season that waterfowl are not in his contract and he will not touch them under any circumstances.... sooooo im just gonna stick with the light artillery and be Mr. coolguy with the 28gauge. 8)
Stilly, are you shooting Nice Shot or ITX in your 28? I agree that just about any shotgun will work on release site pheasants out to normal ranges. My 6.6lb Lefever 12ga was a death stick on ditch parrots for me last year (I went 12 for 12 with it), but it should be, getting to use 2.5" #5 tungsten/matrix loads and all:
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fethrduster... you have some very nice toys!
back when you could still fling lead at scatter creek and skookumchuck I would use one ounce #7's ( I don't remember the exact recipe at the moment) and it would drop em like they're hot. I also had a good stock pile of bismuth at the time and shot a slightly different load (7/8th #5's I think) that I really believed in for pheasants. they were both more of a 20 gauge sized load, but man did they pattern well out of that little 28.
its been about five years since I toted the the 28 for the release sites, and it seems the bismuth has all dried up ( probably a good thing) and I haven't been too impressed with any 28gauge steel load that I have tried - SO I will be dabbling with the NICE shot you mentioned or maybe an alternative.... for some reason I have a hard time paying $75 for 25 shells, so instead I will be going the reloader route, and make so Im only paying $115 for 25 :chuckle:
for grouse on the wetside I use 3/4oz #7's all season long, but the way things are going I want to find a good affordable nontox alternative to keep around.
Post by: fethrduster on February 09, 2012, 01:54:13 PM
Post by: Stilly bay on February 15, 2012, 06:20:47 PM
Ouch! Still makes more sense though than spending hundreds on a new modern gun just so I can save $40 on ammo.
I think im done trying to save a buck or two in this sport, and hopefully be done complaining about it ( :chuckle:), Im just going to pay the piper, and do what ever it takes to enjoy my time afield with my dogs and not stress about prices anymore than I have to. all my bitchen hasn't amounted to a hill of beans so far. I will be like that tweaker selling stolen ball point pens on the street corner, but instead of meth I will be buying tungsten. :chuckle: :chuckle:
these insane non toxic shot prices aren't getting any cheaper. I could see if we were blowing some kind of precious metal out of the end of our barrels, but these are all alloys cooked up in a lab.
the crappy part is that these $75 for a box of 25 shells are going to set a new standard for what people are willing to pay. its like the fuel monopoly, they aren't going to sell it at a profit they are going to sell it for whatever price people are going to put up with. :hello:
Post by: turkey buster on February 15, 2012, 07:06:39 PM
Post by: Mr56Jeep on February 17, 2012, 06:34:52 AM
Post by: joe_dumy on February 21, 2012, 09:40:28 PM
Post by: fethrduster on February 26, 2012, 05:05:24 PM
Ah a 16ga feather duster husky with dimastcis barrels and zombie loads would be my dream combination after reading these responses. Until then I will stick to my Stevens 16. Sometimes dreaming about the best and telling stories of the lucky scotch doubles that always seam to happen with your beater are better.
I started out with a beater too, and traded up, working on them and learning as I went. No need to just dream. Beaters make great trade ins!
Post by: joe_dumy on February 26, 2012, 07:27:15 PM
I went to Evergreen today for sporting clays and did pretty good with old Betsy she hit only when I pointed and missed when I aimed. No wonder I suck at ducks.
Post by: 87Ford on February 27, 2012, 11:48:42 PM
Post by: RoyBoy on February 27, 2012, 11:56:21 PM
12 gauge Benelli Ultra Light...friggin' love that gun!
enough said
Post by: martin1 on March 01, 2012, 09:42:52 PM
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Post by: Fishnfowler on March 22, 2012, 10:01:44 AM
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Post by: quadrafire on March 22, 2012, 10:07:32 AM
Post by: shorthair-on-point on March 22, 2012, 12:17:07 PM
I've had a hankerin' for one of those for a while now, :drool: but I haven't worn out my Cynergy yet. :chuckle: :chuckle:
You can always use a back up gun :tup:
Post by: Stilly bay on March 22, 2012, 05:21:14 PM
Post by: Recurve-Elk on March 22, 2012, 10:21:57 PM
Post by: high country on March 22, 2012, 10:29:57 PM
I have a Browning bss grade 2 with English stock that trips my trigger till then.
Post by: fethrduster on March 27, 2012, 03:27:26 PM
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I also am about done working on this 5.75lb (lighter than most 20's), 16ga hammer gun made by Antoine Marechal (high quality Belgian maker) in the 30's. 29" krupp steel barrels, open chokes. It was a pistol grip with a cheek piece. I shaved them off and added a checkered butt from another gun, which I blended in. I also added the artwork, to echo the vine/leaf engraving on the receiver. I'm waiting for the trigger guard to come back from the engraver after I extended it. I painted my setter on the left side with some flushing chukars, and my late dad on the right with a pheasant. Multiple coats of poly and polished oil seal the deal. It is a lightning quick wand, but the Lefever will be my go to every day gun.
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Post by: Fishnfowler on March 27, 2012, 04:12:40 PM
The blend job on the checkered butt is superb. The artwork is also beautiful. Congrats on the Lefever, what a stroke of luck to come into the gun again.
Rob.
Post by: fair-chase on March 27, 2012, 04:41:34 PM
Post by: fethrduster on March 27, 2012, 05:58:51 PM
Hammers Back,
Mark
gun art: www.marklarsongunart.com
gallery art: www.marklarsonart.com
Post by: Stilly bay on March 27, 2012, 06:42:11 PM
Thanks guys! It's a labor of love to be sure. I've been a professional oil painter for many years, so this is a nice extension of my love of art and guns. I've had my oil paintings accepted to a juried museum art show in Italy this fall too, so this year is definitely looking up!
Hammers Back,
Mark
gun art: www.marklarsongunart.com
gallery art: www.marklarsonart.com
amazing work and what an accomplishment!
for the first time in a long time I was watching the joy of painting this morning admiring all the "happy little trees" with delusions of granduer about jumping from watercolors and acrylics to oils... well after looking at your paintings I realize I have one long row to hoe to get anywhere close to proficient!