Hunting Washington Forum
Big Game Hunting => Bow Hunting => Topic started by: buglebuster on March 01, 2012, 12:06:40 PM
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This is an ongoing argument with my hunting partner and I. He always hunts with an arrow nocked, no matter what he is walking around the woods with a nocked arrow. I tell him that its pretty stupid it only takes one wrong slip and hes dead. He always tells me that it will never happen, and what if he has to take a quick shot with no time to pull an arrow out of a quiver and nock it then draw. To me that is almost a natural instinct so it takes no time at all. I would rather be safe than fast anyday. Just wondering what everyone elses take on this situation is.
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See guys walking around with arrows nocked every season - makes me cringe. Just asking for trouble.
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ok dumb question, this is bad why?
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Wasn't there a bowhunter killed by his buddy in the last year or 2 with this scenario...guy walking along with an arrow nocked, not paying attention, his buddy in front of him stopped and he walked into him with the arrow and killed him?
It's a cloudy memory but I seem to remember something like this happening.
To answer the question, I do not.
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Well i got a good one. Hunting the Swakane this year and ran into a guy i know he had a buddy with him that was walking around with his arrow nocked.. We walk by them for about half a mile or so, all i could think was what a dumb S.... He was waving it around just way to dangerous.
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thats got to be pretty rare, people get shot on accident too, so we probably shouldnt carry guns either?
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Wasn't there a bowhunter killed by his buddy in the last year or 2 with this scenario...guy walking along with an arrow nocked, not paying attention, his buddy in front of him stopped and he walked into him with the arrow and killed him?
It's a cloudy memory but I seem to remember something like this happening.
To answer the question, I do not.
Yep that happened. I don't walk around with an arrow knocked unless I'm in the final stages of a stalk.
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i normally do but i still hunt from a tree stand or a ground blind :tup:
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I can't remember the date and time. I think it was a couple of years ago in Oregon. Two buddys were hunting archery. As they were walking up the trail the lead man stopped to look at some thing. His partner didn't see him stop and was walking to close. His arrow went in to him and he die. Did anyone read about it?
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I can't remember the date and time. I think it was a couple of years ago in Oregon. Two buddys were hunting archery. As they were walking up the trail the lead man stopped to look at some thing. His partner didn't see him stop and was walking to close. His arrow went in to him and he die. Did anyone read about it?
the 4th post from the top..
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I can't remember the date and time. I think it was a couple of years ago in Oregon. Two buddys were hunting archery. As they were walking up the trail the lead man stopped to look at some thing. His partner didn't see him stop and was walking to close. His arrow went in to him and he die. Did anyone read about it?
It was in Washington, one of the units near Mt St Helens.
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I hunt with an arrow knocked all the time. I'm normally out by myself "Still hunting" I walk at the pace of a crawl so if i hurt myself then i shouldn't be hunting... There is a patch of timber i like to hunt that i hike to the spot, piss, knock up, then creep though the timber. I normally see deer there. :twocents:
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http://www.kgw.com/news/local/Elk-hunter-killed-by-arrow-in-SW-Washington-102670349.html
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If i come into an area that is real ELKY, nock up and proceed
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I hunt with one nocked. Hunt mostly alone and still hunt though an area. If I go into heavy brush or steep terrain I put the arrow away. This is always a subject that gets a lot of different opinions just like hunting with a round chambered.
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If I am into some climbing and hiking, I don't have one knocked. If I am hunting I have one knocked and ready to go. Still hunting and spot and stalk is pretty much the only bow hunting I do. I cant tell you how many times I have jumped animals out of there beds and they run 10-20 and stop and look back real quick. If I had to knock a arrow 95% of the time I would never get a shot at those animals. A lot of the time it seems to be a lot of new bow hunters that end up having problems with this. Not saying it couldn't happen to anyone but hell. I have been shooting a bow since I was right at 5 years old. That is 20 years now and have never had a problem.
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I think the hardest thing is climbing into and out of a treestand or trucks with my arrow loaded.... but you never know when you will see a deer... best to be always prepared! :chuckle:
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i hunt with mine nocked, i just follow the same as when i carry a rifle. Just make sure my arrow is pointed away from people and im not walking hip-to-hip with the others
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Only time my arrow is nocked is if I am in amongst some critters and putting a stalk on or if I am sitting in a stand or groundblind.
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I don't. It doesn't take long to nock one when you need it and if you need to run, you've got to quiver your arrow before you take off. It never seemed safe to me.
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Hunt with an arrow nocked all the time. Never know when you are going to stumble across an animal. I have seen many other hunters doing the same thing. Only time mine is not nocked is when climbing something steep.
I find it funny how people get mad at the way others do things that are not against the law and are doing nothing wrong.
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Hunt with an arrow nocked all the time. Never know when you are going to stumble across an animal. I have seen many other hunters doing the same thing. Only time mine is not nocked is when climbing something steep.
I find it funny how people get mad at the way others do things that are not against the law and are doing nothing wrong.
:yeah:
Exactly. I hunt alone with an arrow knocked and I carry the bow by the string, arrow always pointed at the ground
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Hunt with an arrow nocked all the time. Never know when you are going to stumble across an animal. I have seen many other hunters doing the same thing. Only time mine is not nocked is when climbing something steep.
I find it funny how people get mad at the way others do things that are not against the law and are doing nothing wrong.
I don't think anyone's mad. Just a discussion.
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Stupid is as stupid does. It is an unecessary risk.
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I walk in/out with my arrows in the quiver. It is to dark to hunt at those times. I'f I'm slow hunting I'm knocked and ready to go. I also rarely hunt with any else in that manner. The last time I hunted with a buddy during archery was with D-Rock. We both had arrows in our quiver when walking together, then, both had arrows knocked when hunting apart. Considering I carry a locked and cocked sidearm while hunting all seasons I feel that I am safe enough to hunt with an arrow knocked.
Stupid is as stupid does.....yes...I agree.
However, hunting smart and safe with a knocked arrow is fine for me.
I would figure I'm at just as much risk of shooting my own foot, breaking a leg, or getting attacked by a rabid bear as I am sticking myself with my own arrow.
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Hunt with an arrow nocked all the time. Never know when you are going to stumble across an animal. I have seen many other hunters doing the same thing. Only time mine is not nocked is when climbing something steep.
I find it funny how people get mad at the way others do things that are not against the law and are doing nothing wrong.
:yeah:
Exactly. I hunt alone with an arrow knocked and I carry the bow by the string, arrow always pointed at the ground
X2............ :archery_smiley:
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This is an ongoing argument with my hunting partner and I. He always hunts with an arrow nocked, no matter what he is walking around the woods with a nocked arrow. I tell him that its pretty stupid it only takes one wrong slip and hes dead. He always tells me that it will never happen, and what if he has to take a quick shot with no time to pull an arrow out of a quiver and nock it then draw. To me that is almost a natural instinct so it takes no time at all. I would rather be safe than fast anyday. Just wondering what everyone elses take on this situation is.
Just remind him of the Winston death a couple years ago where a guy pushed a knocked arrow through his buddies back on accident.
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This is an ongoing argument with my hunting partner and I. He always hunts with an arrow nocked, no matter what he is walking around the woods with a nocked arrow. I tell him that its pretty stupid it only takes one wrong slip and hes dead. He always tells me that it will never happen, and what if he has to take a quick shot with no time to pull an arrow out of a quiver and nock it then draw. To me that is almost a natural instinct so it takes no time at all. I would rather be safe than fast anyday. Just wondering what everyone elses take on this situation is.
Just remind him of the Winston death a couple years ago where a guy pushed a knocked arrow through his buddies back on accident.
http://www.kgw.com/news/local/Elk-hunter-killed-by-arrow-in-SW-Washington-102670349.html
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I think there is a time and a place to hunt with an arrow knocked.
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Only time my arrow is nocked is if I am in amongst some critters and putting a stalk on or if I am sitting in a stand or groundblind.
:yeah:
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I never just walk around with an arrow nocked :bdid: Once I see what I am after and get within reasonable range then I will nock an arrow .. :twocents: :tup:
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I think there is a time and a place to hunt with an arrow knocked.
:yeah:
Also these guys walking into their buddies are like guys who have a rifle barrle pointed at their buddies back with a finger on the trigger, not smart. I treat a broad head like a muzzle, always pointed in a safe direction, down and away from others.
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I think there is a time and a place to hunt with an arrow knocked.
Exactly. Just use some common sense and pay attention.
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yeah its all up to you... but I sure would hate to trip or something :dunno: :chuckle:
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Exactly. I hunt alone with an arrow knocked and I carry the bow by the string, arrow always pointed at the ground
I was hunting this way a couple years ago watching for animals and not what I was doing. My hand got tired so I went to switch hands and had all three blades on my broadhead go across my palm and fingers. Walked out of the woods with a bloody rag on my hand and my arrows in my quiver, took 13 stitches to fix it. Now I don't keep the arrow knocked.
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I have never kept one knocked... Just could not think of archery as a jump shooting sport.
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I hunt with a recurve and half the time ive got an arrow up and ready to pull back. i am keenly aware of it however. The arrow inadvertenly in the back was a real wakeup for folks. another incident i heard about was a friend of a friend hunting along and when he crouched down he stuck the broadhead into the top of his foot, and wasnt even aware of it until his boot filled up with blood! Stuff happens, thats why its good to have a partner close by.
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Most of the time I do not have arrow nocked. If I am sitting down waiting, definitely have one nocked. If I'm in "elk" and terrain is easily navigable, I may nock an arrow, but then I am extremely careful with each foot plant. If I feel like moving faster, or have to navigate obstacles, the arrow goes back in the quiver. It's pretty rare for me to encounter an elk where having an arrow nocked made the difference between getting a shot or not. Nocking the arrow when an elk presents itself gives you a chance to calm your nerves and think about the distances and the shot.
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If I get that feeling or I'm in an area with a lot of sign I will, or if I'm rounding a corner I can see around I will. When I'm in the treestand, always. :)
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I will depending on if I know I'm close to something or not. Here's a little story though... I was elk hunting in the NE corner of the state and had a bull screaming back at me from about 40 yards. He was below me and in some thick brush. I nocked an arrow and got ready. He started moving and in order to get to an opening and have a chance I had to move about 10 yards to my right. I stepped up onto a fallen log, and as I was stepping off my boot lace got caught on a broken limb. My body was already in motion and I started falling... I had to throw my bow off to the side as I didn't want to fall on the arrow or broadhead. I scratched the hell out of my face and put some good holes/cuts in my hand from the landing, but avoided getting stuck with an arrow. After that fall, I'm really cautious about walking around with a nocked arrow. Oh, and the bull lived to see another day.
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Only if I am sure that it is a buck or bull that I want to pursue and if I am within reasonable stalking range, otherwise it stays in the quiver.
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I will if terain allows, usually never in the elk woods unless i'm sittin, but where i deer hunt i will have an arrow nocked most of the time but if i hunt with someone else only if there is action.....
i actually got poked by a broadhead from a former hunting buddy in the back of the knee due to his buck fever, luckily it didnt break through my clothes or skin but i never went out with him again and he no longer hunts with us....but i immediately cursed his way and scared the crap out of the buck......
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I fall down too much to even think of trying it until the final moments before the shot. In a treestand, then it's always on.
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:yeah: I agree with Todd. I have an arrow nocked when sitting and waiting (treestand, ground blind, or waiting for that bull to walk in) but you won't catch me still hunting with one nocked. The last few yards of a stalk make sense but not the entire time.
Be careful out there!
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I hunt with one nocked. Hunt mostly alone and still hunt though an area. If I go into heavy brush or steep terrain I put the arrow away. This is always a subject that gets a lot of different opinions just like hunting with a round chambered.
:yeah:Count me as one that hunts with my gun loaded (safety on of course), cap on the muzzy (safety on also) and an arrow noc'd.
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I never just walk around with an arrow nocked :bdid: Once I see what I am after and get within reasonable range then I will nock an arrow .. :twocents: :tup:
:yeah: x2
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It depends on the situation of course , I will have one knocked if I'm sneaking along a good trail . more than once I've walked up on elk and got a shot . just like riffle hunting I don't have one in the pipe in less the situation calls for it . Being safe doesn't necessarily mean being unloaded or un nocked.
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Exactly. I hunt alone with an arrow knocked and I carry the bow by the string, arrow always pointed at the ground
I was hunting this way a couple years ago watching for animals and not what I was doing. My hand got tired so I went to switch hands and had all three blades on my broadhead go across my palm and fingers. Walked out of the woods with a bloody rag on my hand and my arrows in my quiver, took 23 stitches to fix it. Now I don't keep the arrow knocked.
I seriously cannot picture how you did this by carrying the bow with an arrow nocked and carrying by the string. I switch hands all the time and I can honestly say the broadhead has never come closer than 26" to my hand during the exchange
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Now days it seems like most guys I pass have an arrow knocked while walking with a bow. The only ones I don't see doing that are the guys physically riding bikes to further locations. I did however see a dude holding a knocked bow with his left had and the bike handle with his right. Must be the need for a lot of quick shots? :dunno: Might explain many of the lost game.
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h20fowlr,
That is an outlier and not the norm. Most bowhunters are responsible and take ethical shots only. A few bad apples ruining the barrel. I will say though that the multi-season tag has brought some folks into the archery season that you wouldn't normally be seeing out there.
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h20fowlr,
I will say though that the multi-season tag has brought some folks into the archery season that you wouldn't normally be seeing out there.
You bet it has! And included among them are some who lack bowhunting experience and bowhunting ethic and the actions of those people reflects poorly on dedicated bowhunters. What's more, some of them think they can "speak for bowhunting" because they dropped a couple of grand on the gear, when in their hearts they don't care a hill of beans whether bowhunting survives for their grandkids or not. It is messed up.
To answer the topic question: The only time my broadhead is unprotected is when I'm stationary or making a final approach on an animal or animal's bed.
In the past I hunted with a man who not only walked with an arrow nocked but would break out into a dead run with one nocked. It is surprising to me that he bothered with a sheath for his hunting knife.
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i used to when i was youner :bdid: till i got 17 stiches in my calf.To say the least my arrows stay in the quiver now till i see what im hunting
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I only nock an arrow once I hear or see an animal. Too many things to go wrong, fast! :twocents:
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I was stalking up on a doe one time. I put the bow behind me to go through some bushes while stepping over a log and guess what? Broadhead into my calf. Lifted my leg right into it :bash: i cut my shirt to tie it on for pressure and hiked out. Got to the truck, drove to town and had a puddle of clotted blood on the floor mat. Didnt hurt at all, one of the benefits of sharp broadheads :chuckle:
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Exactly. I hunt alone with an arrow knocked and I carry the bow by the string, arrow always pointed at the ground
I was hunting this way a couple years ago watching for animals and not what I was doing. My hand got tired so I went to switch hands and had all three blades on my broadhead go across my palm and fingers. Walked out of the woods with a bloody rag on my hand and my arrows in my quiver, took 23 stitches to fix it. Now I don't keep the arrow knocked.
I seriously cannot picture how you did this by carrying the bow with an arrow nocked and carrying by the string. I switch hands all the time and I can honestly say the broadhead has never come closer than 26" to my hand during the exchange
I wish I knew how I did it, I was in such a good mood because I was out hunting maybe I started to skip and frolic... I don't know, but it happened, and it hurt.
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I reached in my pocket 22 miles in in montana and my lil cricket poped open and sliced the chit outta my hand . chit happens
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No I don't.
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I'd say about half the bow hunters I see out scouting and bear hunting are carrying knocked arrows... Not a good idea imo....
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If you are hunting with a MR or ML, you don't go into the woods without a round in the chamber, or a cap in place, do you? :dunno: I look at a bow in the same manner. I load (nock) the round (arrow), when I go into the woods, and unload (un-nock) the round (arrow) when I come back out. A bow is no different than a MR or ML; if you are stupid with it, someone gets hurt. The only difference is the round is visible, with a bow. The guy who stuck his partner in the back, could just as well have shot his partner in the back with a bullet. The guy who stuck his foot, could, just as well, have shot himself in the foot. The weapons we use to bring down our game are NOT playtoys, but, rather, deadly weapons and should, ALWAYS, be treated as such.
Yes, I nock; and, until they make it a law where I can't, I will continue to do so. I ALWAYS know which way the round is pointed and do not point it at anyone at any time. When they make it a law where I can't walk with a nocked arrow, then the law that a MR can't have a round in the chamber, or a ML can't have a cap in place, while walking around, should be in place as well.
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How much of an advantage does it give you in your opinion? Do you have one on the string while you are running up the ridge to get the wind right for the elk that is coming in or the mule that is chasing does? To me the reward of a rushed shot at a wary animal is not worth the risk.
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Most of the people who have said they knock the arrow and hunt are "Still hunting" meaning the are moving at slower than walking speed. I wouldn't run with a knocked arrow, but it could be a HUGE benifit to a still hunter. Less movement and much quicker to shoot at a animal, that may not even notice you. :twocents:
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How much of an advantage does it give you in your opinion? Do you have one on the string while you are running up the ridge to get the wind right for the elk that is coming in or the mule that is chasing does? To me the reward of a rushed shot at a wary animal is not worth the risk.
it could give you that little bit of advantage that you need. I have taken animals because i was ready with one nocked. I have also missed animals that i never got a shot off because i wasn't. Nocked.
It can be dangerous, but thats the risk some take. Me? Not so much anymore :tup:
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I knew a guy a long time ago that slipped on some ice and dropped his bow. When the bow hit the ground, the arrow bounced up and he fell straight down on the broadhead. He stood up and pulled the arrow out. Mt dad took him to the hospital and the dr. said he was very lucky. The arrow went in his side, clipped his lung, and stopped in the muscle of his back. The nock was still on the string when the arrow bounced up. It just rotated on the string when the bow hit the ground. Scary.
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thats got to be pretty rare, people get shot on accident too, so we probably shouldnt carry guns either?
Hi JonVH, I've been a Bowhunter Education Instructor for 27 years and hear of accidents all the time. Most never get reported because they are nonfatal. Self inflicted wound's are one of the most common accidents in Archery with Tree Stand falls being the most fatal .
Treat the bow loaded just like a gun with the safety off. Don't load an arrow until your intended target is in site or you are stetting still. Never walk along with an arrow loaded. Dumb mistakes like that will have this state going to mandatory Bowhunter Ed... Is that what you want??
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:yeah:
Amen!
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I keep an arrow knocked when ever im still hunting, especially for black tails
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Nocked...its like muzzle control with a rifle
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Nocked...its like muzzle control with a rifle
Except if I fall on my gun it won't pierce me. Those trying to make the analogy of a gun with a round in the chamber, the hypothetical safety device in this case would cover the broadhead wouldn't it? I don't hunt with my gun on "fire" and a round in the pipe.
Un-nocked for me.
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This is an ongoing argument with my hunting partner and I. He always hunts with an arrow nocked, no matter what he is walking around the woods with a nocked arrow. I tell him that its pretty stupid it only takes one wrong slip and hes dead. He always tells me that it will never happen, and what if he has to take a quick shot with no time to pull an arrow out of a quiver and nock it then draw. To me that is almost a natural instinct so it takes no time at all. I would rather be safe than fast anyday. Just wondering what everyone elses take on this situation is.
wow...not me. I couldnt tell u how many times a year I fall down elk hunting. Not to include if I am walking around in NE WA with a bow the chances of sticking an animal is nill way to thick and loud to just walk up a deer
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I do in certain occasions I know some might say its a risk but its a risk I'm willing to take.
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Wasn't there a bowhunter killed by his buddy in the last year or 2 with this scenario...guy walking along with an arrow nocked, not paying attention, his buddy in front of him stopped and he walked into him with the arrow and killed him?
It's a cloudy memory but I seem to remember something like this happening.
To answer the question, I do not.
:yeah: If I am on an animal or a herd is close, yes I do knock an arrow and put on the stalk, but just walking through the woods, no! Sometimes if I am coming around a corner that i usually see elk or deer cross then yes. Generally I do not. I would rather go my entire life without killing an animal because I wasnt fast enough, then i would make one mistake and bleed to death in the woods, or worse have my hunting partner bleed because of me! :twocents:
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whenever I'm walking a trail I have an arrow knocked. Its what my father has done for years and its what I've always done with him since I was 12.. I'm 26.. never had an issue. If your climbing across an obstacle or something then yeah.. be safe and put the arrow away or hand your bow to your partner until you are across.. its common sense!
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Thw places that I hunt, you couldn't get around with a nocked arrow due to the thick brush. Hell, most of the time I have to carry my bow above my head to keep it from getting snagged.
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I always walked/hike with out a arrow knocked unless im doing a stalk or at a stand. It doesnt take that long to put one in.
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Dont have an arrow nocked. I will sometimes nock one when I am in my stand.
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I believe it is better to let one get away and live to hunt another day than take unnecessary risks.
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i think it's funny that people are citing the reason they walk around with an arrow nocked is to save time in the shot sequence when we all know it takes you wheelie bow guys about 6 hours and 45 minutes to draw, anchor, check your level bubble on your sight, line up the sight pin with the peep, put your finger on the release trigger, put the pin on target and actually shoot. what's an extra few seconds to remove the arrow from your quiver?
traditional tackle rules!!!
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most of the time i hunt with my arrows in the quiver, But if i hear/see/smell elk then the stalk is on with one nocked! Full contained drop away rest! Most of the area i hunt is so thick you cannot have an arrow nocked.
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I think/was always taught that having an arrow nocked is just a :bdid: ! I only nock an arrow when i am really close or can see the elk. just not worth losing your life
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I think/was always taught that having an arrow nocked is just a :bdid: ! I only nock an arrow when i am really close or can see the elk. just not worth losing your life
:yeah: Gotta thin the gene pool somehow...really no diffrent than ice skating with a knife :chuckle: