Hunting Washington Forum
Big Game Hunting => Elk Hunting => Topic started by: TommyH on March 01, 2012, 04:27:49 PM
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I heard that they were doing away with the "any elk" in the north east. Has anyone heard anything like this? Heard modern and muzzleloaders were going to be bull only. Whats your thoughts? I am glad, hopefully elk numbers will increase.
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It looks to me like archery is still "any elk" in the NE, but muzzleloder and modern firearm are "any bull".
(if they adopt the proposals without change)
(see attached pdf below)
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look at the bright side. :chuckle: :chuckle: now they can sell you a chance at a cow permit. :bash: :bash:
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I heard that they were doing away with the "any elk" in the north east. Has anyone heard anything like this? Heard modern and muzzleloaders were going to be bull only. Whats your thoughts? I am glad, hopefully elk numbers will increase.
Modern and Muzzleloader have always been any bull as far as I can remember. But if they keep the proposed season which I'm sure they will they are taking away the "any elk" late archery season. This, IMO, is rediculous. At best, this will probably only save a handful of cows, but it makes the entire late season up there pretty much worthless. :bash:
By the way, elk numbers have been increasing for the last 10 years. So why start moving toward limiting harvest? I'm suspicious it's not the hunter the WDFW is looking to benefit in the long run. But I'm a pessimist when it comes to the WDFW and their motives...
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They are probably starting to do away with the any elk ticket to build up the herds there. Remember the wolves are here and will keep coming. Hunters will take it in the shorts first, and theyll keep paying. hahahahaha. They never wanted to build herds up for hunters but now they have to to feed the wolves.
Somebody kick me. :tung:
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I heard that they were doing away with the "any elk" in the north east. Has anyone heard anything like this? Heard modern and muzzleloaders were going to be bull only. Whats your thoughts? I am glad, hopefully elk numbers will increase.
Modern and Muzzleloader have always been any bull as far as I can remember. But if they keep the proposed season which I'm sure they will they are taking away the "any elk" late archery season. This, IMO, is rediculous. At best, this will probably only save a handful of cows, but it makes the entire late season up there pretty much worthless. :bash:
By the way, elk numbers have been increasing for the last 10 years. So why start moving toward limiting harvest? I'm suspicious it's not the hunter the WDFW is looking to benefit in the long run. But I'm a pessimist when it comes to the WDFW and their motives...
Wolves like "any elk"
bears like "new borns"
Cougars like "cows"
WDFW likes selling "hope & dreams" to suckers.
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Wolves like "any elk"
bears like "new borns"
Cougars like "cows"
WDFW likes selling "hope & dreams" to suckers.
:yeah:
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I believe GMU 105 and 108 were any elk with MF and ML.
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Modern firearm and muzzleloader will be any bull. Archery will be any elk only in the early season. Also MF and ML will get 40 cow tags each if the current proposal is accepted. This is from talking with Dave Ware.
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as I see it be thankful they made it cow permits. I'm sure it's a money thing due to the popularity of these hunts over the last couple year. I'm really surprised they are giving out cow tags not bull tags. I would be thankful you can still hunt any bull :twocents:
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Pretty sure WenatcheeJay has the right Idea!!!
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Pretty sure WenatcheeJay has the right Idea!!!
NO DOUBT about it!!!
204 was a GMU open any elk a week longer than general season as west of 97 still is, I'm sure they'll change that also
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As long as I still have the oppoutunity to tag out on bulls larger then spikes over there I do not mind. Could be right about the herds and wolves though.
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I hope the herds can get bigger!! They are going to need all the help they can get, :bash: %#& wolves chasing them all the time.
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I agree Tommy although I believe it is the moose population that will be hardest hit by the wolves.
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I heard that they were doing away with the "any elk" in the north east. Has anyone heard anything like this? Heard modern and muzzleloaders were going to be bull only. Whats your thoughts? I am glad, hopefully elk numbers will increase.
Modern and Muzzleloader have always been any bull as far as I can remember. But if they keep the proposed season which I'm sure they will they are taking away the "any elk" late archery season. This, IMO, is rediculous. At best, this will probably only save a handful of cows, but it makes the entire late season up there pretty much worthless. :bash:
nope..they have preached for 20+ years about reducing the human/elk conflicts and not wanting elk to spread in the units..now all the sudden we want more elk and quality ..very suspicious. feed the wolves is my theory
By the way, elk numbers have been increasing for the last 10 years. So why start moving toward limiting harvest? I'm suspicious it's not the hunter the WDFW is looking to benefit in the long run. But I'm a pessimist when it comes to the WDFW and their motives...
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I agree with them taking away the any elk for these units.
The part I dont agree with and they have been doing it for the last few years is the late cow permits.
Currently in Unit 117 there are 50 cow permits available, 20 for modern rifle, 20 for muzzleloaders and 10 for senior. The late part of this season is Dec16-31st. If they really want to help the herd they should knock out those dates. I dont care if the give out 50 permits to use during the general seasons but the late December dates is basically a slaughter for these animals when they are all herded up in there wintering grounds.
If they were trying to boost the herd this should have been the first to cut! :twocents:
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don't be selfish the wolves are gonna need alarger food base for a nice recovery :chuckle:
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101, 105, 108, 121, 124, and 127 have all been any elk for all user groups for some time.....cow harvest has been typically low....they do however plan to be liberal with the cow permits.....so they can of course....make money. The whole thing smells strongly of making money and buying time for the wolves.......with all that is going on, it seems like herd enhancement is a joke.
127 has been any elk for muzzle, but not modern. Archery will retain their any elk luxury.