Post by: TheHunt on March 02, 2012, 08:22:02 PM
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Post by: Tealer on March 03, 2012, 11:54:50 AM
Post by: doyourtime89 on March 03, 2012, 12:04:22 PM
Post by: YJ Guide Service on March 03, 2012, 01:51:10 PM
Post by: Tealer on March 03, 2012, 02:10:57 PM
Were looking at making a trip over to fish Springers, is it better later than early.
Another two weeks it should be hot.
Post by: Moose22 on March 03, 2012, 06:43:17 PM
Post by: TheHunt on March 03, 2012, 09:00:36 PM
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Post by: TheHunt on March 04, 2012, 07:40:55 AM
Post by: buckfvr on March 04, 2012, 07:52:55 AM
There are always some early fish, but action is generally slow for awhile yet.
Post by: TheHunt on March 04, 2012, 08:22:40 AM
BTW, you can rougly tell where he is fishing from the background of the picture. Very nice looking fish in the pictures.
https://www.facebook.com/?ref=tn_tnmn#!/photo.php?fbid=400883066593546&set=a.211704095511445.65542.100000155692478&type=1&theater (https://www.facebook.com/?ref=tn_tnmn#!/photo.php?fbid=400883066593546&set=a.211704095511445.65542.100000155692478&type=1&theater)
Post by: huntnnw on March 04, 2012, 09:24:42 PM
Post by: Tealer on March 05, 2012, 07:09:26 AM
Post by: h2ofowlr on March 05, 2012, 08:35:47 AM
Post by: Blacklab on March 06, 2012, 06:28:24 AM
Post by: TheHunt on March 06, 2012, 06:35:17 AM
Here is a few things he told me to be successful if you are plug fishing.
1. Wash your plugs with Lemon Joy with a tooth brush.
2. Spray the plug with wd-40 to get any scent other then the wd-40.
3. Wrap the plug with the cured herring (I think) fillet.
4. Test the plug in the water to get that swinging left to right action.
He also add scent to the wrapped herring.
he only leave the plug in the water for 30 min max. Then the removes (clips) one and adds a fresh plug. starting with the 1-4 above.
Post by: TheHunt on March 06, 2012, 06:42:30 AM
He uses only Red an green label.. (What ever that means)
He has a chiped GPS fish finder. So he uses that to find choke points in the bottom of the river. He looks at that with the rate of the river to determine if he uses hering or plugs.
He tries to fish only 1 to 2 feet off the bottom.
Post by: YJ Guide Service on March 06, 2012, 08:30:16 AM
Post by: Huntbear on March 06, 2012, 08:35:21 AM
The herring...
He uses only Red an green label.. (What ever that means)
He has a chiped GPS fish finder. So he uses that to find choke points in the bottom of the river. He looks at that with the rate of the river to determine if he uses hering or plugs.
He tries to fish only 1 to 2 feet off the bottom.
Red and Green label herring are the best sizes for trolling Springers. They also come in black and blue I think.
Bill has been on that water soo much and has it dialed in so he can limit his boat out.
Here is a few things he told me to be successful if you are plug fishing.
1. Wash your plugs with Lemon Joy with a tooth brush.
2. Spray the plug with wd-40 to get any scent other then the wd-40.
3. Wrap the plug with the cured herring (I think) fillet.
4. Test the plug in the water to get that swinging left to right action.
He also add scent to the wrapped herring.
he only leave the plug in the water for 30 min max. Then the removes (clips) one and adds a fresh plug. starting with the 1-4 above.
Yes, this is the process for fishing both the Columbia and the Willamette. Bob's in Longview carries the Lemon Joy (NON CONCENTRATED) just for fishermen, since you can not find it in regular stores anymore.
Everyone has their favorite scents too. Some like Anise, some like Krill, some like Sardine.
Post by: TheHunt on March 06, 2012, 09:46:18 AM
He does not touch a rod, bait, or anything with out latex gloves on.
Post by: TheHunt on March 06, 2012, 09:49:10 AM
Post by: YJ Guide Service on March 06, 2012, 09:58:41 AM
Post by: Mr Mykiss on March 06, 2012, 10:16:30 AM
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Post by: Blacklab on March 06, 2012, 10:50:04 AM
Post by: robodad on March 06, 2012, 10:51:37 AM
And Robo makes fun of my Purple Gloves.... It is all I wear and always have to include doing it in AK. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't, but when a fish can find it's way home by smelling the river it was raised in, they have a serious sense of smell and thus any contaminants on your hands will transfer to the bait and down not the water... Wasn't risking it, now it is habit.... Good stuff guys. I wash every plug and then store them in a plastic box that was also washed... Of course I used eggs a couple years ago and slayed them hard core. Here seems not alot use eggs and that was the only thing I used in AK, unless in the salt... Everything is cut plug, granted alot are successful for sure, but try and put eggs on one rod and bait the others as here in Washington style and see which ones gets bit more.. Just my two sense as it worked for me.. The eggs would be a brilliant red cure with balls about the size of quarter. I had a small Pink spin and glow forward to to lift and attack by movement... Will be hitting spingers here soon for a couple trips..
I only make fun of your gloves because they are "Lavender" color and its fun to do :chuckle: anyhow I have installed a box of the black ones on my boat just so ya know I'll be giving it a try ;)
What about LAVA soap, seems my dad always had that in his tackle box?
Post by: Bone_Collector on March 06, 2012, 10:56:01 AM
B_C
Post by: TheHunt on March 06, 2012, 10:59:06 AM
Post by: huntergreg on March 06, 2012, 01:11:29 PM
Post by: Bone_Collector on March 06, 2012, 01:46:30 PM
B_C
Post by: Huntbear on March 06, 2012, 01:50:09 PM
I also have been known to keep all my lures I think I might use, in bath of secret oils and scents. :rolleyes: :chuckle: closed up in a big tupperware.
I do keep all bait in the brine or bath it was in, till I take it out to put on the hook, or tie to a flatfish..
Springers are not real finicky, they are a freight train on a collision course with your lure.... how many were caught before all this other stuff came out.. mostly designed to catch fishermen, not fish.. lol.... I have caught 12 fish (this was not anywhere near my grand total just the total for one mag wart) on the same plug over a couple year period at Drano. Never washed it in Lemon Joy.. tossed it in the tackle box after using and handling with no gloves on, and I dipped, so it had tobacco smell on it as well. Hell I limited out before 8 am several times.
:dunno: :dunno: :dunno: :dunno: :dunno: :dunno:
But, like all fishermen, I have been caught by the hype of doing things a certain way... :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: Bone_Collector on March 06, 2012, 02:38:13 PM
B_C
Post by: robodad on March 06, 2012, 03:08:12 PM
I wonder how much scent transfer goes on between every thing you touch with your gloves and your bait? Because lets face it you touch everything with your hands and than you touch your baits and scent is transferred. I think it is more about the bait and presentation than anything else if you start with good bait than your going to be leaps and bounds above most people out on the water. You cant take bad bait and make it good no matter how much scent you put on it! I have tried and learned the hard way! The presentation is the next step if you have a good presentation and good bait chances are you going to catch fish!
B_C
And how natural is the smell of latex gloves anyway. I think if your just careful and keep your hands fairly clean (rinse them often) should be just fine, what are they some hybrid 21st century people sniffer fish anyhow. Besides the hatchery fish should enjoy the scent of humans, thats how they got their start isn't it :chuckle:
Post by: steelhead13 on March 06, 2012, 08:00:23 PM
Post by: Annette on March 06, 2012, 08:53:54 PM
Post by: TheHunt on March 06, 2012, 09:00:57 PM
I do that with all my junk that I used in that river when I get home.
Post by: Annette on March 06, 2012, 09:09:27 PM
Post by: TheHunt on March 07, 2012, 07:31:39 AM
Post by: Huntbear on March 07, 2012, 07:36:05 AM
you think I should wash my flies in Joy Soap before I fish with them??
Well only if the flies are dirty and need a bath before going to bed for the night... :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
That said, some would say absolutely yes, others like me, would say have you been successful so far? Why change?
Post by: WSU on March 07, 2012, 10:00:37 AM
Post by: Bigshooter on March 07, 2012, 10:14:04 AM
http://www.mytpu.org/tacomapower/parks-rec/fish-wildlife/cowlitz-fish-report.htm
Post by: Bigshooter on March 07, 2012, 10:26:30 AM
I wonder how much scent transfer goes on between every thing you touch with your gloves and your bait? Because lets face it you touch everything with your hands and than you touch your baits and scent is transferred. I think it is more about the bait and presentation than anything else if you start with good bait than your going to be leaps and bounds above most people out on the water. You cant take bad bait and make it good no matter how much scent you put on it! I have tried and learned the hard way! The presentation is the next step if you have a good presentation and good bait chances are you going to catch fish!
B_C
I couldn't agree with you more, good bait followed by good presentation are the most important things. You watch the guys that are fishing with last years old silver eggs and compare them to how there doing against guys that are fishing with fresh late winter run eggs and you'll see a big difference. Same thing goes with hearing. If you cure them and don't use them toss them. Only use fresh.
I heard fire cure came out with a new hearing cure. Has anybody tried it yet? It's a wet cure I believe, you don't have to add any water to it.
Post by: Button Nubbs on March 07, 2012, 11:03:41 AM
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Post by: YJ Guide Service on March 13, 2012, 06:47:15 PM
Post by: TheHunt on March 13, 2012, 07:32:15 PM
Post by: Huntbear on March 13, 2012, 07:40:00 PM
What is the closest campground or place to stay with a camper to fish Springers below Bonneville Dam. Any help would be great please.
Check N. Bonneville, or Carson, or Cascade Locks across the river.
Post by: YJ Guide Service on March 13, 2012, 07:56:07 PM
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Post by: biggdogg on March 13, 2012, 10:05:23 PM
Post by: BigGoonTuna on March 13, 2012, 11:20:59 PM
i'm not one of those guys that wears them whenever i'm fishing though. just mostly when fishing eggs or tuna balls(that kind of stink just doesn't come off).