Post by: coachcw on March 03, 2012, 09:07:54 AM
Post by: rtspring on March 03, 2012, 09:15:20 AM
Post by: bobcat on March 03, 2012, 09:18:21 AM
Post by: 400out on March 03, 2012, 09:19:37 AM
Post by: coachcw on March 03, 2012, 09:30:14 AM
Post by: bobcat on March 03, 2012, 09:31:21 AM
Post by: 400out on March 03, 2012, 09:33:03 AM
Lord knows there one guy one here thats gonna be helping pack out ! (LOL) Very willingly in sure.:chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: rtspring on March 03, 2012, 09:37:25 AM
Post by: 400out on March 03, 2012, 09:43:48 AM
Post by: coachcw on March 03, 2012, 09:46:45 AM
Post by: 400out on March 03, 2012, 09:53:32 AM
Post by: bobcat on March 03, 2012, 10:01:27 AM
Let me clarify I fill out the fourth choice with a doe tag instead of a ghost hunt
"Ghost hunt"? You can't put in for a ghost hunt as a 4th choice. If you want to put in for a point, it's your only choice.
Post by: coachcw on March 03, 2012, 10:04:14 AM
Post by: coachcw on March 03, 2012, 10:05:00 AM
Post by: Kowsrule30 on March 03, 2012, 10:32:41 AM
Post by: NWBREW on March 03, 2012, 11:39:51 AM
Let me clarify I fill out the fourth choice with a doe tag instead of a ghost hunt
"Ghost hunt"? You can't put in for a ghost hunt as a 4th choice. If you want to put in for a point, it's your only choice.
Bobcat, can you clarify on that? So when I put in for moose and I only put down one unit....I can't put down a draw point for my last choice? :dunno: Is that why I never get drawn? :chuckle:
Post by: 400out on March 03, 2012, 11:43:16 AM
400 you get choices in each catigory . why not use them ? like quallity buck , buck , antlerless . one dosn't affect the others points . but if yopu dont allpy you will loose the points for that catigory . Bobcat can map it out for you he must be a bean counter (lol)It was before the changes in the app process. and I should clarify again :chuckle: I was stupid and picked a fourth hunt choice instead of just the three buck hunts I wanted and that's what got me the damn doe hunt!!! and it was a whitetail 2 hrs from hm to boot :bash: :bash: :bash: Bob your are right about the ghost hunt I appologize :hello:
Post by: steelnducks on March 03, 2012, 01:58:46 PM
Post by: colockumelk on March 03, 2012, 03:53:40 PM
Post by: B.G.hunter on March 03, 2012, 04:04:44 PM
Post by: coachcw on March 03, 2012, 09:45:53 PM
Post by: Antlershed on March 04, 2012, 07:36:46 AM
400 you get choices in each catigory . why not use them ? like quallity buck , buck , antlerless . one dosn't affect the others points . but if yopu dont allpy you will loose the points for that catigoryYou don't lose the points if you don't apply, you just dont get the additional point. I have 15 points for Quality Elk and Bull Elk. I will only be applying in one category this year, because I don't want to risk drawing in both categories and losing all my points... :twocents:
Post by: coachcw on March 04, 2012, 09:57:31 AM
THAT MAKES SINCE . you should probilly just put in for a cow tag ! LOL400 you get choices in each catigory . why not use them ? like quallity buck , buck , antlerless . one dosn't affect the others points . but if yopu dont allpy you will loose the points for that catigoryYou don't lose the points if you don't apply, you just dont get the additional point. I have 15 points for Quality Elk and Bull Elk. I will only be applying in one category this year, because I don't want to risk drawing in both categories and losing all my points... :twocents:
Post by: Kowsrule30 on March 04, 2012, 11:29:59 AM
Post by: Antlershed on March 04, 2012, 06:08:17 PM
Post by: dreamingbig on March 04, 2012, 10:14:30 PM
Post by: trophyhunt on March 07, 2012, 06:47:23 AM
Post by: D-Rock425 on March 07, 2012, 10:14:24 AM
Post by: Bob33 on March 07, 2012, 10:35:31 AM
I believe my dad had 11 or 12 points last year for archery quality bull and put in for peaches ridge, NOT selected. Good luck and you would think you have a great chance but you never know, but you can bet your butt there will be a few guys with 1 to 4 points drawing.In the 2011 "Quality Bull" category there were 2,687 applicants with ten or more points, and 29,437 with less than ten. Due to the sheer number of applicants with a few number of points, they do get drawn more than one might expect, but that's generally because there are so many of them.
Post by: colockumelk on March 07, 2012, 11:20:26 AM
cloc there wont be any elk left in the teanneway with seven wolves running around there.
True but... You know what type of bulls are in the Colockum and where they hang. So since its closer for you and you can better scout it, I would put it as #1. Then put an area in the Blues as #2.
Post by: dreamingbig on March 07, 2012, 11:33:54 AM
Do the math and you start getting discouraged.
Post by: slim9300 on March 10, 2012, 03:31:10 PM
And each year your chances of drawing is getting worse due to the fact that the points are squared; we are all falling behind. This assumes permit levels are relatively stable and that those who get drawn the previous year are back in the game again.
Do the math and you start getting discouraged.
Are you referring to point creep? I am failing to see why squaring points isn't a fair system when compared to straight points? Can you break it down for me?
I have 11 "archery" points this year for quality and bull elk. Maybe one of these years I will draw something. =)
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Post by: hunterofelk on March 10, 2012, 03:51:14 PM
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on March 10, 2012, 06:04:23 PM
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Lord knows there aren't any elk in the Observatory gmu.:chuckle:
Or the Blues, Colockum....
As far as the best way to do it, (in my opinion) is think that it is a lottery (?)
you cannot get drawn if you do not apply, and the way it works is.. They put your name (number) in the general pool for what category you are applying for, (you get in as many times as "points squared")
Then they have "the lottery" if your number comes up, they look at your #1 choice...
If a permit is available :tup:
If all those permits have been taken, they go to you #2 choice.. and so on
If you chose only hunts that have already been chosen by those drawn before you, you were "unsuccessful" (even though you were drawn) and you get a point..
There are those that have more point, and do not get the permits they want, because they only apply for the "premium" permits.
Even though "their number" might get drawn, they are "unsuccessful" because they only chose those hunts that have more applicants, I have been drawn Observatory twice with 6 points each time, and as my only choice because that is where I hunted.
If I were to have applied for "the Blues" as my #1, I probably would still have been drawn for my #2 because there are more applicats for that permit., so there would have been no change, but who knows ? I might have been lucky....
Post by: coachcw on March 10, 2012, 08:46:08 PM