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Title: restoration
Post by: turkey buster on March 05, 2012, 10:35:28 PM
my question is can a gun thats been thru a fire be restored to shootable condition, or would the heat of the fire destroy the integrity of the metal? my dad has had this little lever action 22 rifle not sure if it's smith and wesson or a marlin but I do know it's from the early 1900's got the oxtagon barel, he has wanted to get it fireing since he got it, and I was going to see what I could for him for his B-day.
thanks for any info guy's
Title: Re: restoration
Post by: JimmyHoffa on March 05, 2012, 10:45:20 PM
did it get hot enough to damage the stock at all?

If the concern is about the metal and the stock no longer exists, you could maybe see if a gunsmith could do a Brinell or Rockwell hardness test in a few areas around the chamber and down the barrel.  It would leave some small (hopefully small) indentations; and then see what the smith has to say.  I would assume the barrel to be hammer forged, so they could probably match the spec to an original.
Title: Re: restoration
Post by: predatorpro on March 05, 2012, 11:09:40 PM
i would doubt that a house fire would even get close enough to do any harm to the metal as far as strength....but yeh take it to a gun smith and see what he says
Title: Re: restoration
Post by: turkey buster on March 05, 2012, 11:14:01 PM
thanks guy's, as far as the wood yes all the wood is gone (burned off) I will be picking it up this Friday and get a better look at it, I will post pic's of it then
Title: Re: restoration
Post by: high country on March 06, 2012, 06:45:05 AM
A 22lr makes very little pressure...I would not be worried. Every spring should be replaced, and I would retreat the pin.
Title: Re: restoration
Post by: 724wd on March 06, 2012, 07:28:43 AM
personally i'd make it a wall-hanger.  house fires are bad news for guns.  yes, a .22 is low pressure, but how would you feel about your kid or grandkid shooting it? 
Title: Re: restoration
Post by: Killmore on March 06, 2012, 08:20:36 AM
I had a house fire last June and the guns that burned the wood off were destroyed, the metal just got to hot and turned brittle. The guns in a non-fire safe faired a little better. I took one of those to a smith and the first thing he looks at are the springs. If they lost there spring then he said there junk..
Title: Re: restoration
Post by: rtspring on March 06, 2012, 08:26:05 AM
years ago my parents house burnt down to the ground. I had a 30-06 and a 12 gauge shotgun under my bed in their house. ( I was in the Navy) anyway the shotgun was in a leather case and came out fine. The 06 was not in a case and I had it completely redone, new stock new blueing and it shoots fine to this day. It's a matter of jsut how much damage occured during the fire.
Title: Re: restoration
Post by: turkey buster on March 10, 2012, 04:54:46 PM
so I picked up this rifle yesturday, it is a marlin model 1897, I looked up the serial # it was built in 1902, now just to find the parts
Title: Re: restoration
Post by: turkey buster on March 11, 2012, 02:23:04 PM
is any body familiar with ams guns in Woodinville, or can you recomend a good gunsmith
Title: Re: restoration
Post by: 300rum on March 11, 2012, 09:36:13 PM
If I where you I would call Doug Turnbull at Turnbull Manufacturing (I think that's what its called).  He may not be able to do it but I would bet he would know who. 
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