Post by: rosscrazyelk on March 06, 2012, 08:40:06 PM
I do not have the resource to raise them here. But I want to try and grow the bird population there.
Post by: Old Dog on March 06, 2012, 08:53:16 PM
Post by: wildweeds on March 07, 2012, 07:40:16 PM
:bdid: Plant habitat instead of birds, and you will be way ahead in the long run. I suspect the land is already at it's carrying capacity. In other words the habitat is already holding as many birds as it can. Improve the habitat, and the bird population will expand to fill it.
Post by: grundy53 on March 08, 2012, 05:47:56 AM
Not to mention ................. you will not know for certain that birds you release are disease free,some can be carriers and unaffected............. turn those loose in a native setting and the few birds that are there will become non existant.......................I'll second the vote for habitat improvement and hunting management on your part.:bdid: Plant habitat instead of birds, and you will be way ahead in the long run. I suspect the land is already at it's carrying capacity. In other words the habitat is already holding as many birds as it can. Improve the habitat, and the bird population will expand to fill it.
If you want to release them in a native setting you have to go to China. NONE of the ringnecks in America are native...
Post by: Old Dog on March 08, 2012, 07:01:23 AM
Yes, Eastern Asia is the home of the ringneck, but since their introduction into the US there are more pheasent here, especially in the Dakotas, than there are in their native habitat.
Post by: grundy53 on March 08, 2012, 07:59:59 AM
Getting disease free birds is easy. Just make sure you buy from a dealer that is a member of the NPIP.
Yes, Eastern Asia is the home of the ringneck, but since their introduction into the US there are more pheasent here, especially in the Dakotas, than there are in their native habitat.
I understand that. Just pointing out they are an introduced species not native. So we should really worry about the Introducing birds to the "native" population as long as they are disease free.
Post by: wildweeds on March 08, 2012, 07:13:11 PM
Not to mention ................. you will not know for certain that birds you release are disease free,some can be carriers and unaffected............. turn those loose in a native setting and the few birds that are there will become non existant.......................I'll second the vote for habitat improvement and hunting management on your part.:bdid: Plant habitat instead of birds, and you will be way ahead in the long run. I suspect the land is already at it's carrying capacity. In other words the habitat is already holding as many birds as it can. Improve the habitat, and the bird population will expand to fill it.
If you want to release them in a native setting you have to go to China. NONE of the ringnecks in America are native...
Post by: Birdguy on March 09, 2012, 10:12:10 PM
Post by: Special T on March 09, 2012, 10:24:17 PM
Post by: rosscrazyelk on March 10, 2012, 10:40:30 AM
Post by: Special T on March 10, 2012, 12:18:30 PM
Post by: wildweeds on March 10, 2012, 04:37:53 PM
Thanks for all the info guys, the property I am talking about is just outside of colfax going towards poluse on the river. when I was invited to go out there we walked for 5 hours on this guys property . Place looked awesome. Lots of quail but only saw 5 pheasant. Got 2.the owner and I are trying to come up with a plan. We will see what happens. I know this , he has tons of white tails on his property and I am welcome to bring whoever to help eliminate his problem. So if anyone can help with the bird problem. I can guantee you a doe for sure.
Post by: hunting4sanity on March 10, 2012, 06:31:59 PM
Post by: Special T on March 11, 2012, 06:52:55 AM
Post by: YJ Guide Service on June 15, 2012, 05:01:19 PM
Post by: bearpaw on June 19, 2012, 09:29:04 AM
"Idaho for Wildlife" has a surogator program in Idaho that is proving very effective at raising hatched chicks to be wild birds. IDFG doubted the efectiveness so IFW raised a bunch of black pheasants with a surogator to prove the success, last fall black pheasants were showing up in hunter bag limits.
I am hoping "Washington for Wildlife" can implement a similar program here in WA. Perhaps you could try this in the palouse! If you are interested, I will get more specific details. I would like to try this in Stevens County next year.
http://www.idahoforwildlife.com/Pocatello%20pheasants.html
Snake River Chapter Pheasant projects 2009:
Bryan Spraque and Mark Otteson have been very busy this year. They have raised and released over 6,200 pheasants and 300 Chuckars!
They currently have 14 serrogaters and 5 more in the process of being built!
These birds were released at four weeks old.
Bryan made the following quote regarding this project:
"We had an incredible survival rate this year! Predator control, nesting & brooding habitat are absolutely vital to the success of these programs. During the egg stage of nesting and the first 4 weeks of life, these birds are very vulnerable. But with our sophisticated serogators systems, we have proven that we can increase the survival rate of these birds substantially! With progressvie and on-going education along with collaberation with our wonderful farmers, we can make pheasant hunting what it should be and What it used to be."
http://www.idahoforwildlife.com/Latah%20pheasants.html
Latah Chapter Pheasant projects 2010:
Jim Hagedorn, John Largent, Idaho Fish and Game personel, Adam and Tia Stagg and many other volunteers have been very busy this past Spring with birds! They recently purchased 2 new pheasant serrogaters and hundreds of young pheasants. Their goal is for each serrogater to produce 800 pheasants per year which will be turned out on public land with good habitat conditions. This is the first time this new pheasant raising technology has been attempted in Latah or the Clearwater so lets cross our fingers!
Post by: turkeydancer on June 19, 2012, 01:51:38 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on June 19, 2012, 01:59:08 PM
May also want to talk with Pheasants Forever .... :dunno:
:yeah: Absolutely. They might turn the modest resources you have into a really fine project.
Post by: FamilyMan01 on June 22, 2012, 05:48:29 PM
Post by: Special T on June 22, 2012, 07:03:37 PM
Post by: turkeydancer on June 25, 2012, 08:00:21 AM
Post by: wildweeds on June 25, 2012, 12:14:57 PM
Post by: LenW on July 28, 2012, 04:57:52 PM
we had success with it but you have to make sure that you check it every 3 to 5 days and make sure everything is working okay and it helps to have advanced into keep the coyotes out,also that company has done a large amount of research, and they have found that there is no difference between a pen raised birds and a natural birth up to five weeks and actually a natural birth placed in a pen raised situation will respond exactly like a pen raised birds, the actual procedure for the Washington state Department of wildlife before 1960 was to release their birds in Eastern Washington at flight age they only Enough birds for the two weekends of opening season and brood stock, I remember having no problems getting limits.