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Big Game Hunting => Bow Hunting => Topic started by: chukar hunter on March 09, 2012, 09:41:55 AM

Title: Arrow Tuning
Post by: chukar hunter on March 09, 2012, 09:41:55 AM: I have a Spot Hogg shoot through arrow rest and I just picked up a dozen new arrows and am looking for advice on tuning each nock so that the arrow and veins will pass through the rest as smoothly as possible. I have 4" veins with a 4 degree right helical offset. The local bow shop suggested tuning with some powdery spray substance, shooting each arrow and tuning each nock until the veins do not come in contact with the rest.

Does anybody have any at home common substances that they recommend using?
Title: Re: Arrow Tuning
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on March 09, 2012, 10:35:56 AM: Tinactin... or any spray on type foot powder works well.
Title: Re: Arrow Tuning
Post by: D-Rock425 on March 09, 2012, 10:38:35 AM: What rest is it?
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Post by: buckfvr on March 09, 2012, 10:46:15 AM: :yeah:

What arrows/broadhead, bow etc......Im having a hard time with 4" and 4 degree offset, especially with a shoot through......
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Post by: D-Rock425 on March 09, 2012, 10:49:48 AM: Get drop aways will solve some problems. QAD is the best.
Title: Re: Arrow Tuning
Post by: chukar hunter on March 09, 2012, 11:18:08 AM: I'm not sure of the model number on the Spot Hogg. It has two metal prongs that Y at the end to cradle the arrow.
I've used it for three years with great success, just looking to fine tune the arrows after reading some articles about guys tuning each specific arrow and seeing patterns in arrow flight. Thought I'd give it a try this year.

I shot and chose the 4" veins as I read some reviews saying that the larger veins stabilize arrow flight with a broadhead much better than the shorter 2" razor veins. I shoot MX-4 Muzzy's with an 1-1/8" cutting diameter, so I feel that I need all of the help with stabilization that I can get. In years past, I've been able to get pretty tight groups out to 50 yards without the fine tuning.

I'm scared of drop away's. Too many moving mechanical parts that can go wrong. I like to hunt hard and my equipment takes a beating. I figure that is one less thing to worry about.
Title: Re: Arrow Tuning
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on March 09, 2012, 12:36:07 PM: Sounds like you have a setup you trust and are confident in. :tup: As far as fletching clearance goes, you may or may not have issues if you changed your fletching configuration, the pro shop advice is a good and quick way to check for vane clearance. I agree with you about the MX series heads they need all the stabilization they can get. Were you not getting them stabilized with your previous setup? Thus the change? As for nock tuning, thats simple enough... just twist the nock of any "flyers" that arent grouping. Often the rotation of the spine will bring that "flyer" back in. If not set it aside for a grouse or practice arrow.
Title: Re: Arrow Tuning
Post by: coachcw on March 09, 2012, 01:03:52 PM: If your shooting carbons you may have issues . Remember the heavier broad head changes the spine . Blazers with a four fletch will fly any broadhead thst those fours will fly . I've switched to the quad ultra rest and love how they shoot plus they hold the arrow captive. Good luck.
Title: Re: Arrow Tuning
Post by: whitetailslyr on March 12, 2012, 09:26:20 PM: I also shoot a qad ultra and don't have any complaints. I'v been shooting muzzy 3 blades with 2 inch helical balzers for the past 2 years with no stabilization problems. Not sure if you have paper tuned your bow, but for shooting a fixed blades id say it's a must
Title: Re: Arrow Tuning
Post by: Todd_ID on March 13, 2012, 12:42:05 AM: Spray foot powder does work for seeing contact. Even more of a definite yes or no can be made by stealing the wife's brightest red lipstick (you know, the one she wore before the wedding). Lightly glide it over the edge of each vane. Shoot the arrow and inspect the rest. I said LIGHTLY on purpose; too much will cause a splatter from the force of the shot and could give you a false positive. There's no question when and where you get contact.
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Post by: coachcw on March 13, 2012, 07:48:45 AM: good reason to have red lipstick around too ! honist honey it's mine ! :chuckle:
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Post by: dmr400 on March 18, 2012, 07:40:02 PM: I have a system for new arrows.

First, choose 1 arrow. Foot powder test until I determine exactly how to rotate the nock.

Then I rotate all the knocks as close to identical to the first one I can.

Third, shoot every arrow through paper a couple times and ensure they are all tearing consistently (at this point I'm not looking for a bullet hole, that comes later with tuning, if one nock is over/under rotated it will tear differently than the rest.) This assumes you have a bow that is close to in tune for those arrows of course.

Fourth, NUMBER THE ARROWS, and shoot at a NEW 5 spot target at 20 yards, assigning each arrow to one spot. If one is off, it will show itself after about 4 rounds because the holes in the paper will consistently be in a different place than the others in relation to the X ring.

This method keeps the lipstick and foot powder mess to a minimum, as it's only used on one arrow.