Post by: michael0016 on March 09, 2012, 05:05:08 PM
Post by: Bob33 on March 09, 2012, 05:09:41 PM
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Post by: doyourtime89 on March 09, 2012, 05:21:35 PM
Post by: billythekidrock on March 09, 2012, 05:23:59 PM
Doyourtime, if you had ten last year you will only have eleven after you apply this year.
Post by: huntnfmly on March 09, 2012, 05:51:25 PM
Yes you will have 11 and remember they are squared
Post by: billythekidrock on March 09, 2012, 06:42:51 PM
Doyourtime
Yes you will have 11 and remember they are squared
He will only have 11 if he applies this year.
Post by: huntnfmly on March 09, 2012, 07:06:05 PM
Post by: slim9300 on March 10, 2012, 04:21:57 PM
He will have 10 from before plus the 1 when he applies for this year that will give him a total of 11 squared for this years draw
Are you sure it's not 10 squared plus 1? I always wondered about that.
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Post by: bobcat on March 10, 2012, 04:29:21 PM
He will have 10 from before plus the 1 when he applies for this year that will give him a total of 11 squared for this years draw
That's right, and that's what Billythekidrock was saying. He only has 10 now. The 11th point will only come when he applies this year.
The "points used" is the number of points that were used for that drawing. If you applied with other people, then it's not necessarily the number of points you have. It is the average number of points your group had.
Post by: bobcat on March 10, 2012, 04:35:21 PM
He will have 10 from before plus the 1 when he applies for this year that will give him a total of 11 squared for this years draw
Are you sure it's not 10 squared plus 1? I always wondered about that.
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The point is added to your point total when you submit your application. It is NOT added after the draw is over, when you are unsuccessful in drawing a permit. I think this is what confuses a lot of people, and it took me a long time to figure this out.
This is why nobody ever has zero points in the draw. You always start out with 1.
I don't know if this answered the question. But, nothing is ever added after the points are squared. 11 squared is 121 and that's how many chances you have in that drawing. Or if this is your first time every applying, you have 1 point, which of course when squared, is still 1, so you only have 1 chance.
Post by: huntnfmly on March 13, 2012, 11:31:00 AM
Post by: Pathfinder101 on March 13, 2012, 03:47:02 PM
So, basically, if you had 10 accumulated points for quality buck, and they ran your name through the system and you got drawn on the 8th try, but they checked your application and your choices were "Desert A and Entiat" and all of those tags were already given out, then you still didn't "draw anything", but it only took 8 of your 10 points to find that out. Since you didn't get a tag, you still have all of your points again next year.
A few years ago I had 7 points for a deer tag (before we went to "quality" and "buck" etc...) and the draw results showed "points used - 5", but I hadn't been drawn for anything. So I started asking what happened, and that's how it was explained to me (not by WDFW, by a buddy). Basically, I was drawn, but there were no tags left. At least, that's how I understood the explaination... :dunno:
Post by: bobcat on March 13, 2012, 03:53:20 PM
The "points used" thing was explained to me differently (maybe I got it wrong though). I understood that when it said "points used" it means that your name actually was drawn, but when they checked your "choices" all of the tags for the choices you selected were gone already.
So, basically, if you had 10 accumulated points for quality buck, and they ran your name through the system and you got drawn on the 8th try, but they checked your application and your choices were "Desert A and Entiat" and all of those tags were already given out, then you still didn't "draw anything", but it only took 8 of your 10 points to find that out. Since you didn't get a tag, you still have all of your points again next year.
A few years ago I had 7 points for a deer tag (before we went to "quality" and "buck" etc...) and the draw results showed "points used - 5", but I hadn't been drawn for anything. So I started asking what happened, and that's how it was explained to me (not by WDFW, by a buddy). Basically, I was drawn, but there were no tags left. At least, that's how I understood the explaination... :dunno:
Everyone is "drawn," you just may not be drawn before other applicants who also applied for the same hunt you applied for. If you had 7 points but it only showed 5, the only explanation for that is that you applied with a partner who had 3, for a total of 10 (7+3) and an average of 5.
So what you are seeing as "points used" is the average of your "group". If that is not the case, and you applied individually, then I don't know what to say, other than there must have been a mistake (and you got hosed). What did it show the next year for points in the deer category?
Post by: Pathfinder101 on March 13, 2012, 04:16:02 PM
Post by: bobcat on March 13, 2012, 05:57:14 PM
My points were correct the next year. I am trying to remember if I was putting in with a buddy at that time. That could have been the case...
If you go look at your application history, it will show whether you applied as an individual, a group member, or as a group leader.
Go here: https://fishhunt.dfw.wa.gov/wa/specialhunt
Post by: Pathfinder101 on March 14, 2012, 04:16:39 PM