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Big Game Hunting => Elk Hunting => Topic started by: Worldhunter on March 18, 2012, 08:35:14 AM

Title: Elk calling
Post by: Worldhunter on March 18, 2012, 08:35:14 AM: Hi,

Does anyone out here have a recommendation for elk calling training aids (i.e DVDs books etc) that worked well for you. I have never attempted to call elk and want to learn. I prefer to use a diaphram since I bow hunt and use it for turkey hunting. Thanks.

V/R

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Title: Re: Elk calling
Post by: pianoman9701 on March 18, 2012, 08:50:20 AM: Elknut's Bugling Bulls and Beyond, and Elknut's Playbook. The CD sets each have an MP3 disk I listen to while working out. The CDs stay in the truck. And, he's a site sponsor so you'll be helping to sup[port HuntWA.

http://www.elknut.com/Audio.html
Title: Re: Elk calling
Post by: TheHunt on March 18, 2012, 09:00:34 AM: I would second elk nut's audio cd. DO NOT practice in your car 100% of the time. You need to practice out side.
Title: Re: Elk calling
Post by: Encore 280 on March 18, 2012, 09:14:04 AM: There was a big thread on here last year about elk calling. Might want to do a search on it and see if you can find it. It was a real good one. Good luck.
Title: Re: Elk calling
Post by: Worldhunter on March 18, 2012, 09:24:06 AM: Gentleman,

Thank-you for the responses, I will check out Elknut's Bugling Bulls and Beyond, and Elknut's Playbook.

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Title: Re: Elk calling
Post by: ridgefire on March 18, 2012, 09:40:48 AM: would recommend trying bugling bulls diaphrams, the brown one for bugling and the yellow for pretty much all other calls. i have used pretty much all the other brands and they were the easiest for me to use.
Title: Re: Elk calling
Post by: huntergreg on March 18, 2012, 10:43:52 AM: There is a camp and elk calling class in OR. in Aug. here is a link. Me and a couple buddys are thinking about going. They have a 3d shoot and food for three days. looks like fun! :tup:

http://shop.deeptimbersounds.com/product.sc;jsessionid=8F047CD1B1742E6CA55391C978596C24.qscstrfrnt04?productId=50&categoryId=1
Title: Re: Elk calling
Post by: TheHunt on March 18, 2012, 11:50:00 AM: People will tell you to use this diaphragm call or that... The one thing you need to understand is quality. Look through 10 calls on the rack. If they are exactly the same which means they are anchored at the same spot. Two years ago I looked at an entire rack of diaphrams and it was hard to match four that were the same. I think many of the diaphram calls out there do not have the quality most of us require.

Here is why, If the call is not anchored at the same place and under the same tension then when you will have to relearn pressure and air volumn required to hit the notes. Now take that with changing out a diaphragm in the heat of battle of calling an elk in.

So pick you diaphragms carefully if that means anything to you.

There is another DVD that Joel Turner made a few years ago. He talks about "The Tone" to which the vast majority of the bulls will respond. What ever call you use you need make that tone. Last, you need to go from a bugle to a chuckle. Many calls that are not diaphragm based are difficult to chuckle from.
Title: Re: Elk calling
Post by: Recurve-Elk on March 18, 2012, 12:23:01 PM: definitely elknuts dvd's. I went 7 years with out harvesting an elk, studied one of his dvds over a summer and harvested an elk in the fall!
Title: Elk calling
Post by: Worldhunter on March 18, 2012, 12:51:30 PM: Very informative - thanks
Title: Re: Elk calling
Post by: foambeetle on March 18, 2012, 07:27:42 PM: www.roehuntingresources.com

People need to check out "The Gallery," in combination with the other instructional videos on the site and the Elk strategy app (can be used via the website/online or an iPhone, etc.), this is the best instructional material currently available for elk calling and elk hunting strategy - bar none. It will be worth every penny you spend. A muley hunt put out by RHR was posted on the Hunt-Wa deer board a while back - he keeps coming out with great stuff. His most recent turkey hunting material on hunting Merriams in mountain country is good, too.

For elk: http://www.roehuntingresources.com/Elk_Instruction
Title: Re: Elk calling
Post by: TheHunt on March 18, 2012, 07:36:41 PM: Elk Nut has real elk sounds. If you pickup CD or DVD make sure it is recording of real elk sounds. If you walk behind elk or get close to them you can listen to their sounds. Then you know what they sound like so you can replicate those sounds.
Title: Re: Elk calling
Post by: JPhelps on March 20, 2012, 09:01:00 AM: Elknut's (Paul) stuff is great.

There are also a lot of YouTube videos that have live elk vocalizations and calling.
Title: Re: Elk calling
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on March 20, 2012, 09:08:49 AM: Elknuts DVD's taught me a lot, but I thought the actual Elk sounds part could have been better, Great set !!
Roe Hunter resources is an awesome site also, annual membership is affordable, and well worth the money...
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Berry Game Calls were what I used when I started calling 20+ years ago, but they changed the tape (and name ?) on them, and they just seemed different.. :dunno:
I now just get whatever single reed diaphragms I find, seems like anymore I can get whatever sound I want out of any of them, but some "blow out" pretty fast (cheap materials) so I have to buy a couple, plus I always lose one...
Title: Re: Elk calling
Post by: bowhunterty on March 20, 2012, 09:50:37 AM: World hunter if your intetested in Elknuts products send me a PM. It is very informative stuff.
Title: Re: Elk calling
Post by: sweetlou on March 20, 2012, 10:21:43 AM: Get ahold of Joel Turner. Or look his stuff up on Youtube, he also has some articles to read. He's amazing.
Title: Elk calling
Post by: slim9300 on March 20, 2012, 05:32:35 PM: Paul (aka. Elknut) is the man. He will improve your chances of killing an elk 10-fold. 4 elk in 2 years thanks in large part to Paul, and I was pretty successful before I stumbled into his material.

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Title: Re: Elk calling
Post by: RIVERRAT on March 21, 2012, 09:51:24 PM: I would second the motion for JOEL TURNER. Not only is Joel an amazing elk caller but he is an equally capable teacher (hard to find that combination). He is gracious and willing to help out even those beyond help (Like me) :hello:. Try the tale end of the Lethal Release video for some good tips too. :twocents:
Title: Re: Elk calling
Post by: fisheral87 on March 22, 2012, 08:42:21 PM: +1 Elknut
Title: Re: Elk calling
Post by: coachcw on March 23, 2012, 06:32:49 AM: Jim horn JR has some good cd's aswell. don't get hung up on having the best bugle in the woods . learn what a elk is looking for at what time . while hunting and making noise in the woods play with your cow calls and soft lil bugles , you may be surprised who answers back. I think alot of hunters get stuck with either just cow calling or bugleing and don't mix it up. If your bugling a bull and he just answers , then close the gap and mix in other calls to try to trigger a reaction . remember while hunting preasured areas you need to tone it down , locate and move in . not many bulls in hunted areas will come running in from a half mile . good luck.
Title: Re: Elk calling
Post by: Elknut1 on March 23, 2012, 06:55:02 AM: Guys thanks for recommendation! I appreciate it very much! Anyone can say try this or that but the real proof in what works & what's theory is in the results from actual hunters themselves & their successes! Can calling work, you bet! Does learning what to say when & what sounds are best for certain situations really work, absolutely! Please check out these Testimonials & Photos for yourself & you be the judge. Thanks!
http://www.elknut.com/Testimonial/Testimonial.html

ElkNut1
Title: Re: Elk calling
Post by: Worldhunter on March 23, 2012, 08:57:22 AM: Again thank-you for all the great info - I am going to go with elknut.
Title: Re: Elk calling
Post by: TheHunt on March 23, 2012, 04:42:48 PM: There sure was some positive feed back. You need to have a Hunting-Washington.com give away... :dunno: ;) ;) ;)

Quote from: Elknut1 on March 23, 2012, 06:55:02 AM
Guys thanks for recommendation! I appreciate it very much! Anyone can say try this or that but the real proof in what works & what's theory is in the results from actual hunters themselves & their successes! Can calling work, you bet! Does learning what to say when & what sounds are best for certain situations really work, absolutely! Please check out these Testimonials & Photos for yourself & you be the judge. Thanks!
http://www.elknut.com/Testimonial/Testimonial.html

ElkNut1
Title: Re: Elk calling
Post by: TheHunt on March 23, 2012, 04:47:55 PM: Quote from: sweetlou on March 20, 2012, 10:21:43 AM
Get ahold of Joel Turner. Or look his stuff up on Youtube, he also has some articles to read. He's amazing.

Joel usually puts on clinic's around the state depending on the shop who wants to host him. He has been all over and I would go if you have a chance. Total stud and I have not heard anyone in this state that can out call him.
I would keep your eye on this site as when that time comes this summer it is usually posted on here as to his clinic locations.
Title: Re: Elk calling
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on March 23, 2012, 05:08:16 PM: +1 on elknut...ive been listening to his cds everyday since xmas..its going to be burned into my brain by opening day...after listening to his cds once everything that has happened in the last few years makes sense now
Title: Re: Elk calling
Post by: THEBUGLER on March 23, 2012, 05:26:59 PM: Guys, Go to youtube and search "bugling bull game calls". Rocky Jacobsen gives many excellent tutorials on elk calling, and best of all .....its free!
Title: Re: Elk calling
Post by: Martinhunter on March 24, 2012, 08:30:37 PM: elknuts definitly!
Title: Elk calling
Post by: TikkaT3-270Shortmag on March 28, 2012, 12:05:02 PM: I should be receiving my package #1 today in the mail. I spoke with Paul & I will tell you he is the most knowledgeable person I have spoken with. Great customer service too.
Title: Re: Elk calling
Post by: buglebuster on March 28, 2012, 09:02:06 PM: i dont have any problems speaking elk and calling in bulls but im just gonna have to break down and buy the elknuts playbook, you guys are so convincing!
Title: Re: Elk calling
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on March 30, 2012, 01:45:35 AM: Quote from: buglebuster on March 28, 2012, 09:02:06 PM
i dont have any problems speaking elk and calling in bulls but im just gonna have to break down and buy the elknuts playbook, you guys are so convincing!
As someone who began calling 20 years ago, with Berry's Best Big Bull Mfg (?) diaphragms, I thought I was as good as anyone else I heard, I still got more action (after location) with my Sceery "Ace"
I read, everything that is out there, have sat through seminars, have watched videos... etc...
After buying the compleate set of DVD's and everthing (except for the calls, as I can use a blade of grass if I have to..) I learned WHY sometimes they (the Elk) did what they did.
I had so many moments while watching the videos that I slapped my self in the head saying "Duh!"
I am one of those that was making all the right sounds, for all the wrong reasons, sometimes I got lucky, but now I make my own "Luck", my Elk seasons will never be the same.
I do not care how good you sound, real elk sometimes sound crappy, but the right sound, in the right moment...