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Big Game Hunting => Elk Hunting => Topic started by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on March 20, 2012, 10:43:40 AM

Title: 1 point
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on March 20, 2012, 10:43:40 AM: I have a point in bull elk, quality elk and buck deer. This year I'll go in the draw with 2 points. Which as I understand it gives me 4 tickets in the drawing per catigorie. The question is what should I put in for to stand a chance of drawing out. I'm looking for meat and am willing to go to a rifle and shoot a cow. I know people that have drawn out on premium bull e/s rifle tag with 0 points. Is the average points used accurate? Should i go by them for how many points im gonna need? I will probably not draw. Any other lucky hunters out there ever draw with very few points?
Title: Re: 1 point
Post by: rtspring on March 20, 2012, 10:46:37 AM: Sounds like you need to pray a little. Yes people do draw with a few points but not very often...

all depends on if your lucky or not...

gl

RTSPRING
Title: Re: 1 point
Post by: vandeman17 on March 20, 2012, 10:50:32 AM: I would look for the units with the best odds and go that route if you want to have a chance at pulling a tag. If it were me, I would put in for a good hunt, knowing that I didn't have a good chance and just view it as building up your points. There are plenty of animals to be had during general season, especially if you are a meat hunter. :twocents:
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Post by: 400out on March 20, 2012, 10:52:49 AM: :yeah: I have done it but it was pure luck!
Title: Re: 1 point
Post by: 6x6in6 on March 20, 2012, 10:54:54 AM: With 2 points in the draw, apply for everything and go for the gusto. Leave no 2nd, 3rd....choice blank. No elk antlerless points?
Your chances are slim, but hey, someone's got to get the tags.
Title: Re: 1 point
Post by: Pathfinder101 on March 20, 2012, 10:58:49 AM: I am sure almost everyone on here knows somebody who "got lucky" with very few points. I had a student in my class last year who drew a bull moose tag with only 2 (same girl drew a youth bull elk tag with only 2 points as well). I wouldn't count on anything though. At this point, you are probably looking at just putting in and "building points" with the rest of us.
I have 12 points and have never been drawn for an elk tag. Not that I am bitter... :rolleyes: :chuckle:
Title: Re: 1 point
Post by: bobcat on March 20, 2012, 11:02:00 AM: Quote from: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on March 20, 2012, 10:43:40 AM
Is the average points used accurate? Should i go by them for how many points im gonna need?

I agree with all that's been said, and yes, lots of people get lucky every year and draw good hunts with very few points. To answer the question about "average points," it pretty much means nothing, as far as your chances of drawing. If there were 2,500 applicants for 50 permits, and the average points was 2 for those who drew, it means only that and nothing more. It does not mean that if you have 2 points you will draw.
Title: Re: 1 point
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on March 20, 2012, 12:20:52 PM: Quote from: 6x6in6 on March 20, 2012, 10:54:54 AM
With 2 points in the draw, apply for everything and go for the gusto. Leave no 2nd, 3rd....choice blank. No elk antlerless points?
Your chances are slim, but hey, someone's got to get the tags.

I think I do have atlerless point how do I check w/o my wild ID ? Are atlerless easier? Thanks for all the help guys I should do fine out east hunting a cow unit. I will pray for a bull tag and refer back to this post to glote if I can lol.
Title: Re: 1 point
Post by: 6x6in6 on March 20, 2012, 12:29:13 PM: Quote from: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on March 20, 2012, 12:20:52 PM
Quote from: 6x6in6 on March 20, 2012, 10:54:54 AM
With 2 points in the draw, apply for everything and go for the gusto. Leave no 2nd, 3rd....choice blank. No elk antlerless points?
Your chances are slim, but hey, someone's got to get the tags.

I think I do have atlerless point how do I check w/o my wild ID ? Are atlerless easier? Thanks for all the help guys I should do fine out east hunting a cow unit. I will pray for a bull tag and refer back to this post to glote if I can lol.

You can pull your Wild Id # here by using your Soc #.
https://fishhunt.dfw.wa.gov/wa/license
This link will tell you how many points you have in each category along with your drawing history.
https://fishhunt.dfw.wa.gov/wa/specialhuntlookup

Yes, you statiscally stand a better chance of drawing an antlerless tag due to the sheer volume of tags available.
Title: Re: 1 point
Post by: washelkhntr on March 20, 2012, 12:46:12 PM: Just be sure that if you do draw a tag this year, go by a Lotto Ticket!
Title: Re: 1 point
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on March 20, 2012, 12:48:50 PM: Nice thanks 6x6. No antler less I'll start this year.
Title: Re: 1 point
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on March 20, 2012, 12:50:45 PM: cannot win if you do not play, but why would you apply for a MF Antlerless, when you are a bowhunter, and already have antlerless options ?
Title: Re: 1 point
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on March 20, 2012, 01:16:59 PM: Good point . Ill just base this year off of the multi tag drawing. Then I can put on for everything!!!
Title: Re: 1 point
Post by: coachcw on March 20, 2012, 01:32:56 PM: No Doubt your a glass half full type of guy . Good Luck !
Title: Re: 1 point
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on March 20, 2012, 02:06:54 PM: I've learned you have to be hunting in Washington :yeah:
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Post by: 6x6in6 on March 20, 2012, 02:10:21 PM: Quote from: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on March 20, 2012, 02:06:54 PM
I've learned you have to be hunting in Washington :yeah:

So much to learn young man. :chuckle:
Title: Re: 1 point
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on March 20, 2012, 02:17:37 PM: Are you sayn I should stay on the west side? Lol!
Title: Re: 1 point
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on March 20, 2012, 02:27:14 PM: East side, west-side, :dunno: as long as your hunting...
I met a guy last year during Archery season, first year Archery, second year hunting period.
He had spent the year before hanging around camp with some guys (MF) and enjoyed himself, but saw no animals.
Drew a multi-permit and was after any legal...
I dragged him out and showed him how to Archery Elk hunt...
One day was enough for him, even though I put him within 50 of a 5X5, 15 of a 4X3, and 30 from a cow, the miles covered and the climb out of "the hole" were too much :chuckle:
Elk hunting is hard work. :twocents:
Title: Re: 1 point
Post by: 6x6in6 on March 20, 2012, 02:29:06 PM: Quote from: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on March 20, 2012, 02:17:37 PM
Are you sayn I should stay on the west side? Lol!
:chuckle:
West side of the Continental Divide maybe. :chuckle:
Or just east of it works too. :chuckle:
Title: Re: 1 point
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on March 20, 2012, 02:36:29 PM: Lmao :chuckle: last year a new hunting partner joined me and my brother all he kept saying as we chased cows around was why aren't we hunting big bulls on the wet side wtf and It made me wounded why I switched there's no glory in a cow besides the steaks.
Title: Re: 1 point
Post by: STIKNSTRINGBOW on March 20, 2012, 02:46:13 PM: :dunno:
As far as I am concerned, ANY legal Elk is "Glory" just check harvest reports.
I am a Cow/Spike killer, meat on the ground !!

Now that I came back to the west side, 3 points+ or cows !!
:cue:
Title: Re: 1 point
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on March 20, 2012, 02:59:56 PM: I agree any legal elk is glory. :) I'm in the cow spike catigorie this year. Wish me luck out there. BTW how many years have they had the multi draw? Just wondering how many points behind I am.
Title: Re: 1 point
Post by: furbearer365 on March 20, 2012, 05:08:57 PM: Never count yourself out. The last two guys that i knew who drew Dayton had 2 and 4. I didnt draw last year with 12. That is what sucks and what is great about our system. If you just want meat, spend more time on finding a general area and just call a draw tag a blessing if it happens
Title: Re: 1 point
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on March 22, 2012, 09:24:56 AM: I got my general season planned just gotta get there early and kill opening day :chuckle:
Title: Re: 1 point
Post by: Button Nubbs on March 22, 2012, 12:21:46 PM: Day 1 is the best day to do it! :chuckle:
Title: Re: 1 point
Post by: 400out on March 23, 2012, 08:40:06 AM: :yeah: :yeah: :yeah: I wonder what one he's going to get this year :chuckle:
Title: Re: 1 point
Post by: Kowsrule30 on March 27, 2012, 05:11:55 PM: Drew a quality tag with 4 points once.... I use to draw a cow tag almost every year but haven't drawn one in 4 years now!!!!
Title: Re: 1 point
Post by: SI Eagle on March 27, 2012, 07:33:42 PM: I expect you will draw a tag this year. I have 15 points for just about everything and have never drawn so you should do just fine. Love our Washington draw system.
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Post by: SkookumHntr on March 27, 2012, 07:52:30 PM: Quote from: SI Eagle on March 27, 2012, 07:33:42 PM
I expect you will draw a tag this year. I have 15 points for just about everything and have never drawn so you should do just fine. Love our Washington draw system.
:yeah: I have max, never drawn nothin ever, put in for the hardest tag! You will be the one to draw it!
Title: Re: 1 point
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on March 28, 2012, 10:07:50 AM: Finaly some optimism to get me going!!! I put in for a good unit but easy to draw cause of our awesome system we have here! I never put in for antlerless last year. What's up with the bull elk permits don't seem as good as quality elk permit choices? I have a point in it so I'll get another this year. Might as well. I know right where my big bull will be waiting in both my choices for quality if I draw I will stick a good one!
Title: 1 point
Post by: TikkaT3-270Shortmag on March 28, 2012, 10:09:58 AM: I've drawn permits with 2 & 3 points. Have friends that have never drawn with 15. U know the saying "the luck of the draw".
Title: Re: 1 point
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on March 28, 2012, 10:17:46 AM: A family member drew a quality rifle tag 2 years back for a very good area with 2 points. I got to join him and what a blast general season just can't compare.