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Big Game Hunting => Muzzleloader Hunting => Topic started by: Salmo on March 25, 2012, 09:51:13 AM

Title: Muzzle Loader Elk
Post by: Salmo on March 25, 2012, 09:51:13 AM: What gr bullet are you all using for elk? What rifle? And what is the barrel twist?

Thanks
Title: Re: Elk
Post by: doyourtime89 on March 25, 2012, 10:01:17 AM: .300 Win Mag with 180 grain Federal Premium trophy bonded tip...not sure of barrel twist
Title: Re: Muzzle Loader Elk
Post by: whacker1 on March 25, 2012, 10:16:17 AM: 275 grain barnes expander mz in .54 cal. Remington - 1 - 28 I believe. I bought the 325 grain of the same bullet, but haven't had a chance to shoot them yet
Title: Re: Muzzle Loader Elk
Post by: SkookumHntr on March 25, 2012, 10:41:29 AM: Ive been using 300grn Hornady SST's with 100grns Triple7. 1/28 twist Knight BigHorn. That Combo has been Money for me the last 2 years :tup:
Title: Re: Muzzle Loader Elk
Post by: Salmo on March 25, 2012, 11:15:57 AM: 'skook

What's your range limit with that load on elk and on deer.. Thanks
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Post by: JimmyHoffa on March 25, 2012, 11:16:18 AM: I've been using a percussion .54 Great Plains. I think the twist is 1:48. 430 gr TC maxi-ball super penetrators, using 95 gr Pyrodex with a felt seal. Primer is CCI #11 mag.
Title: Re: Muzzle Loader Elk
Post by: waoutdoorsman on March 25, 2012, 01:05:49 PM: 300gr hornady sst in front of 100gr 777 powder. 1:28 barrel twist, nw vortek
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Post by: threedwizard on March 25, 2012, 01:39:53 PM: 375 grain Knight Hot Shot with 130 grains of Triple 7, Knight LRH. Has been a deadly elk or deer round out to 176 yards.
Title: Re: Muzzle Loader Elk
Post by: Sabotloader on March 25, 2012, 02:26:11 PM: Quote from: Salmo on March 25, 2012, 09:51:13 AM
What gr bullet are you all using for elk? What rifle? And what is the barrel twist?

Thanks

I am using a Lehigh/Bloodline .458-300 grain bullet in .457-.458/50 cal sabot. I am shooting a Knight DISC or MK 85 with 120 grains of T7-2f/3f, of course 100 grains is just effective to 150 yards...

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2Fsabotloader%2FCompositeBloodline.jpg&hash=f0771c8199c9548be7959c5a8dda18f2766ba1ed)
Title: Re: Muzzle Loader Elk
Post by: SkookumHntr on March 25, 2012, 02:50:49 PM: Quote from: Salmo on March 25, 2012, 11:15:57 AM
'skook

What's your range limit with that load on elk and on deer.. Thanks
-2 years ago I took my elk at 190 rangefinder yards with a stump for a steady rest. This last year I took my elk at 50yds off hand. I passed a dandy bull at around 120yds off hand. From what Ive learned you need to take the same shot as you would with a bow& arrow, Broadside or slightly quartering away. Muzzys just dont have the knockdown power of a rifle.. Its Just like archery, just your range is extended out to about 150yds. I practice to 200yds.
Title: Re: Muzzle Loader Elk
Post by: adamR on March 25, 2012, 02:56:07 PM: 115 grains of pirodex, 300 grain bonded thompson center shockwaves, traditions vortek northwest edition
dropped my avatar at 150 yards immediately
Title: Re: Muzzle Loader Elk
Post by: threedwizard on March 25, 2012, 04:13:26 PM: Sabotloader, that 300 bloodline looks interesting. How does it group? I've tried a few different bullets and might try that in a .52 sabot. How much for 20?
Title: Re: Muzzle Loader Elk
Post by: Sabotloader on March 25, 2012, 04:54:34 PM: Quote from: threedwizard on March 25, 2012, 04:13:26 PM
Sabotloader, that 300 bloodline looks interesting. How does it group? I've tried a few different bullets and might try that in a .52 sabot. How much for 20?

I shoot that bullet from my 52 with excellent results. They are expensive right up there with the Barnes and Nosler Partitions. They also do come with the correct sabot. I think they are $20+

Might look through these threads...

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php?topic=75690.0

The big thing you have to remember, and this very hard for most of us, but the Lehigh/Bloodline is not a typical exanding bullet. You migh read through this thread where a dad and son did some experimenting... The explanation of the Lehigh/Bloodline is on the second page.

http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/black-powder/361092-science-project-report-long.html

Some target work

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2Fsabotloader%2FTargets%2F8-29KDEx75ydChrono-Lehigh.jpg&hash=ee7dfa0da5a63e946dec9cc60fa60502a7a66ce9)

This is a 200 yard target shot by a Knight employee with Knight Mountaineer shooting a .452-250 gr Bloodline.

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2Fsabotloader%2FTargets%2F200ydTarget-Bloodline250s.jpg&hash=a7d0f286d404a12eb5270f6df7c5b15ca876085e)
Title: Re: Muzzle Loader Elk
Post by: lonedave on March 25, 2012, 08:31:55 PM: 325 gr - .600 round ball - T/C Hawken - .62 Green Mountain Barrel - rifled 1:72 twist - 110 gr Goex 2f
Title: Re: Muzzle Loader Elk
Post by: gadwall on March 26, 2012, 07:57:28 PM: 350 grain TC maxi-hunter and 90-100 grains of loose T7, CVA Elkhorn with 1:28 twist.
Title: Re: Muzzle Loader Elk
Post by: Kowsrule30 on March 27, 2012, 05:39:55 PM: 50 cal 295 grain PB Areo Tip copper coated.... 130 grains of Pyrodex Pelletts.... 1 in 28 twist out of an X-150....
Title: Re: Muzzle Loader Elk
Post by: whitetailslyr on March 27, 2012, 09:29:13 PM: 300g bonded shockwaves out of a NW Explorer