Post by: Bean Counter on July 30, 2008, 07:09:55 PM
I post it under Elk Hunting because I want it to be able to do an elk, as well as deer and bear. Thanks.
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp;jsessionid=S55F3D4TNH4PZLAQBBLCCOVMCAEFAIWE?id=0033881516986a&type=product&cmCat=SEARCH_RESULTS_NYR&returnPage=search-results2.jsp&No=0&Ne=46&nyr=1&noImage=0&Ntt=gerber+knife&Ntk=Products&QueryText=gerber+knife&Ntx=matchall&N=51&_requestid=111203"
Post by: bucklucky on July 30, 2008, 07:14:15 PM
Post by: jdb on July 30, 2008, 07:15:02 PM
Post by: rainshadow1 on July 30, 2008, 07:24:38 PM
No, they don't compare, but I can't do a knife for $40!!!
Post by: Bean Counter on July 30, 2008, 07:31:28 PM
The 420HC is a little easier to sharpen and gets sharper than 440c or ATS34. Conversely, it'll dull faster, need to be sharpened more often, and not be as tough as those. If you don't use your knife a ton, or use it real carefully (avoiding other metal, rocks, bone, sand, etc.) then it's a good choice. Gerbers in general have been decent for the money.
No, they don't compare, but I can't do a knife for $40!!!
I checked out your website. That's some beautiful work. You really do get what you pay for I guess. Losing my $20 pair of binoculars on my first deer hunt was one of the best things that ever happened to me--I upgraded to Nikon Monarch ATB. Perhaps I'll first get that Gerber and then you'll be hearing from me a little later! ;)
Post by: Bean Counter on July 30, 2008, 07:44:17 PM
PM about your products..
Post by: SNIPER10 on July 30, 2008, 08:54:13 PM
I use the Havalon Piranta. It is a removable blade knife that uses a 60X scalpel blade. It makes extremely short work of any skinning job. I have used it to skin numerous elk, deer, and even a bison. When the blade gets dull, just replace it, no sharpening needed. I can usually gut and skin an entire elk with only one blade. I can do two deer per blade. The knife is about $40.00 and 100 blades are about $27.00. You can get them from havalon.com. I like the plastic handle one better for holding on to, but the metal handle one has a better locking system.
Good Luck,
JT
Post by: jackelope on July 30, 2008, 09:10:48 PM
thanks again steve...exactly how i was hoping it would turn out.
Post by: rainshadow1 on July 30, 2008, 09:19:46 PM
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Post by: HoofsandWings on July 30, 2008, 09:58:43 PM
Post by: TheHunt on July 30, 2008, 10:00:10 PM
I own the the Piranta. Would not use it to bone out a big game animal but would skin one in a heart beat
Post by: rainshadow1 on July 30, 2008, 10:01:29 PM
Post by: AlpineMuley on July 30, 2008, 10:08:08 PM
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Post by: SHANE(WA) on July 30, 2008, 10:50:33 PM
Post by: MountainWalk on July 30, 2008, 10:55:27 PM
Post by: Michelle_Nelson on July 30, 2008, 11:02:51 PM
Post by: huntnphool on July 30, 2008, 11:25:20 PM
deffinately a few disposable scalpels in my pack for caping its a must if you want to do it right.
My taxidermist gives out caping kits that are small and lightweight. Each kit has its own zippered pouch with a clip to hang on your pack, a scalpel, 10-20 disposable blades and a small retractable tape measure. I guess he got tired of repairing poorly done capes and decided the time spent on the repairs was more than giving out the kits. A good idea for you taxi's that are on here :twocents:
Post by: bucklucky on July 30, 2008, 11:33:35 PM
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Post by: Wacenturion on July 31, 2008, 07:00:44 AM
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Post by: yelp on July 31, 2008, 08:07:16 AM
http://www.amazon.com/The-Pig-Sticker-Bowie-Knife/dp/B0009UCTJ6
Post by: jadeball1 on July 31, 2008, 09:29:07 AM
Post by: TheHunt on July 31, 2008, 09:49:40 AM
deffinately a few disposable scalpels in my pack for caping its a must if you want to do it right.
My taxidermist gives out caping kits that are small and lightweight. Each kit has its own zippered pouch with a clip to hang on your pack, a scalpel, 10-20 disposable blades and a small retractable tape measure. I guess he got tired of repairing poorly done capes and decided the time spent on the repairs was more than giving out the kits. A good idea for you taxi's that are on here :twocents:
Ask you taxidermist if he knows about the Havalon knife. The blades have disposible blades but you have a solid handle rather then the small handle if the scaple. http://www.havalon.com/
Post by: TheHunt on August 02, 2008, 08:50:34 PM
Thanks Jim, just bought one. Cant wait to try it out! Which blades do you perfer?
I use this shape... http://www.havalon.com/ss60xtdz.html
You only need to carry one extra blade. I can skin out a complete deer without changing blades.
Post by: Crunchy on August 03, 2008, 09:16:36 AM
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Post by: Fullabull on August 04, 2008, 02:17:45 PM
My father has a Cutco hunting knife that is probably 55 years old and is still in great shape. They make them in a straight edge or what they call a Double-D edge. Very nice knife!
http://www.cutco.com/products/thumbnail.jsp?category=70
I have found that if I invest in a good knife it saved me money in the long run ;)
Fulla
Post by: demontang on August 04, 2008, 03:00:25 PM
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Post by: Bean Counter on August 08, 2008, 10:19:21 AM
Post by: jeff100 on August 08, 2008, 11:33:48 AM
I am a out of control knife collector. I will buy any well made knife I can get cheap.
My dad taught me how to sharpen a knife when I was very young using a whetstone. I practiced many an hour as a young boy, trying to get my technique down so I could prove to the old man I could sharpen a knife. It took a long time, but I did get it down. In those days, that was one of those 'rites of passage' that a young boy had to go through on his path to becoming a man. Any young man worth his salt carried a pocket knife and knew how to sharpen that pocket knife. To this day, I never go anywhere without my pocket knife.
I don't think pocket knives are allowed these days for all the young boys being raised by single mothers....(oops, slipped out, sorry), not socially acceptable. But I digress...
These days I have a number of different stones I use to sharpen my knives, depending on the steel in the blade and how dull they are to start with. There's nothing I like better, than to sit down for the evening, plug in a good western movie, get out a few knives and my stones, and watch the movie and sharpen my knives.
Even better, when it gets to this time of year, two things really get me stoked for hunting. Spending time at my reloading bench loading hunting ammo, and sharpening my field knives in preparation for hunting. I usually carry two knives in my pack, so I don't have to do more than swap knives when I'm field dressing or caping an animal out.
The trick to prevent knives from dulling too quickly (assuming you have the proper angle on the edge to begin with) is DON'T CUT HAIR. Nothing dulls any knife faster, than cutting hair on big game, except for maybe cutting really dirty hair on big game.... :chuckle: :o
Here's an interesting observation. My original hunting knife, the first knife I bought for myself for hunting about 30 years ago, is an Old Timer two blade folder. The blades on that knife are stained black from blood. That knife, of all the knives I own, is the knife I can get the sharpest of all, by quite a bit. Must be because it's a high carbon steel blade. The rest of my knives are all some form of a stainless steel alloy. That Old Timer folder is the easiest knife to hand sharpen as well. Go figure. I get it 'scary sharp' to borrow a term related to sharpening woodworking blades, and it actually makes me a little nervous when I'm trying to fold the blades shut without losing part of a finger!....
Just like guns, a man can never own too many knives... :tup:
Post by: Bean Counter on August 08, 2008, 11:49:47 AM
I don't think pocket knives are allowed these days for all the young boys being raised by single mothers....(oops, slipped out, sorry), not socially acceptable. But I digress...
Just like guns, a man can never own too many knives... :tup:
:yeah:
I happened to be raised by one of those mothers. To make matters worse where did I go post HS but off to a good ol' University for more liberal indoctrination. Took me years to un-f* the damage.
I could see myself developing an affinity for knives but I'm trying to resist by looking at them only as a tool, not as much as a 'toy.' Guns and ammo are skyrocketing in price and until I get a good horde of those stocked up, I'll have to hold off o the knives for now. Now I digress..
Post by: jeff100 on August 08, 2008, 12:02:52 PM
Glad you were able to work it out and join the ranks of responsible men... 8)
Post by: rainshadow1 on August 08, 2008, 12:38:00 PM
The best stainless steels can be vulnerable to rust because of their high carbon content. They're just "less" vulnerable to it than regular high carbon.
Carbon steel will rust if you don't maintain it regularly. It will Patina, and darken itself all the way to black over the years, even if you do maintain it! But carbon tool steels are the best for knife work. Catch 22.
Some guys like the Patina, the Aged look of a good carbon blade. The Old Timer's are a good example. I don't remember seeing a bright shiny Old Timer blade, but they're excellent steel!
You can hand rub those old blades back up. A bit of technique and good old fashioned elbow grease, but you can make them new again.
Post by: MountainWalk on August 08, 2008, 12:46:40 PM
Post by: Bean Counter on August 08, 2008, 01:09:51 PM
No offense meant Bean Counter. I have strong reasons for commenting on SM's, but this isn't the place to explain them.
Glad you were able to work it out and join the ranks of responsible men... 8)
None taken, of course. Generalized statement--not personally directed. At times, some things just need to be said. Society needs more "responsible men." Both in sport hunting and in the family. That would prevent a lot of homes like mine: of single moms and fatherless children. Thanks for your encouragement.
Post by: MountainWalk on August 08, 2008, 01:17:47 PM
He made it for me when I was nine, and gave it to me when I was twelve. It balances perfectly on one finger.
Post by: jeff100 on August 08, 2008, 01:46:15 PM
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when its touched up,, its so sharp that if you look at it too long, your eyes will bleed.
LMAO..... :brew:
Post by: jeff100 on August 08, 2008, 04:28:58 PM
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