Post by: bearpaw on April 06, 2012, 12:23:50 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/salmon-eating-sea-lions-killed-bonneville-dam-16085292
PORTLAND, Ore. April 6, 2012 (AP)
A Washington state wildlife spokesman says two salmon-eating California sea lions have been captured this week at Bonneville Dam and killed by lethal injection.
The Oregonian reports the deaths are the first this year after a federal judge ruled last month the program could proceed.
Washington Fish and Wildlife spokesman Craig Bartlett says the sea lions were captured Tuesday.
The killings are limited to California sea lions documented as targeting spring chinook or steelhead near Bonneville, the first dam the returning fish encounter on their run up the Columbia River.
The sea lions also must return to the dam despite nonlethal hazing and be spotted nearby for at least five days, though the days can accumulate over several years.
The Humane Society of the United States has filed suit in an effort to permanently end the sea lion killings.
Post by: fishinmike on April 06, 2012, 12:33:54 PM
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Post by: Curly on April 06, 2012, 05:31:04 PM
WTH is up with this lethal injection b.s. :dunno: Why can't they just shoot them? ???
Post by: seansfire on April 06, 2012, 05:41:38 PM
all ya gotta do is take a .22 with cb shorts with ya fishin next time. i hear if ya shoot one they sink like a rock.
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 06, 2012, 05:46:01 PM
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Post by: MuleySniper on April 06, 2012, 05:53:14 PM
They need to hit their quota this week before the Humane Society gets another court injunction to halt it. Why don't they save everyone thousands and let boaters apply for permits to harvest them. I would get a half mount or a head mount done if they legally allowed me to harvest one. The meet would be donated to the Humane Society to feed those dogs they uthanize everyday.
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Id have mine made in to a rug
MS
Post by: C-Money on April 06, 2012, 05:56:36 PM
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Post by: h2ofowlr on April 06, 2012, 06:48:14 PM
What gets me is the lethal injection. I've got your lethal injection hangin'! What the heck does that cost as compared to a .22mag to the whiskers? Please give me a break. This isn't a human murderer with more rights than you and me. This is future seal jerky. I'm willing to bet that the lethal injection is administered by a vet for a cost of around $1K per animal. :bash: Thanks for letting me rant. :tup:
With lethal injection they can't use the meat for anything. With permit process, inspection of the animals, trapping fees, legal hurdles, etc. I bet they are closer to $20k per seal. Could even be more. They way this has gone could be a $100k. The cost for lethal injection for 1 individual through the prision system is over $1 million per person.
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Post by: mulehunter on April 07, 2012, 07:45:35 AM
Glad two are dead.
:yeah:
Post by: Knocker of rocks on April 07, 2012, 08:09:28 AM
With lethal injection they can't use the meat for anything. With permit process, inspection of the animals, trapping fees, legal hurdles, etc. I bet they are closer to $20k per seal. Could even be more. They way this has gone could be a $100k.
I'm afraid your math is probably correct
Post by: Wa hunter on April 08, 2012, 02:42:12 AM
Post by: Salmo on April 08, 2012, 08:55:29 AM
Whack and stack :tup:
:yeah:
Post by: TONTO on April 08, 2012, 09:10:52 AM
Just think of all the aplication fees they're missing out on. Not to mention the tags themselves.
Post by: jumpin on April 08, 2012, 05:57:37 PM
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Post by: Tealer on April 09, 2012, 07:09:59 AM
Post by: cem3434 on April 09, 2012, 07:45:47 AM
The state could make money if people could draw special permits like hunting. I'd put in for that tag.
I'm surprised the State isnt charging a $6.50 permit fee and $250 per tag because they would probably get it!
Post by: h2ofowlr on April 09, 2012, 08:07:24 AM
Has anybody seen any sea lions above Bonnivile dam. I have on seen 1, and that was at Drano last September.
We had them steeling fish from us at the Wind River. We had 3 swimming amoungst the boats last year. That was just one day we witnessed this. Could have been more in the river or more up above us at Drano.
Post by: Hunterman on April 09, 2012, 08:11:24 AM
Honestly I wouldn't want hunters/fisherman to be shooting on the water. With all the people and boat traffic I can see the headlines.
:yeah: :bdid:
Hunterman(Tony)
Post by: PlateauNDN on April 09, 2012, 10:25:56 AM
Post by: TONTO on April 09, 2012, 10:43:20 AM
Honestly I wouldn't want hunters/fisherman to be shooting on the water. With all the people and boat traffic I can see the headlines.
This is a very valid point, but what if hunters/tag applicants were first required to take a class in the safe harvest of a sealion? I'm sure there would be weapon/equipment restrictions as well to minimize these concerns. Just as trappers are required to take a class before a license can be issued. I also imagine if it were to happen it would probably be only open to those who have completed the master hunter course as well.
Post by: Button Nubbs on April 09, 2012, 10:44:59 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 09, 2012, 11:05:46 AM
Post by: Curly on April 09, 2012, 11:23:25 AM
Post by: Tealer on April 09, 2012, 12:05:46 PM
Honestly I wouldn't want hunters/fisherman to be shooting on the water. With all the people and boat traffic I can see the headlines.
This is a very valid point, but what if hunters/tag applicants were first required to take a class in the safe harvest of a sealion? I'm sure there would be weapon/equipment restrictions as well to minimize these concerns. Just as trappers are required to take a class before a license can be issued. I also imagine if it were to happen it would probably be only open to those who have completed the master hunter course as well.
I hate to say it, but I would rather a 'pro' shoot them as close to the dam as possible. I firmly believe that if you shoot one the rest will vacate at least for a short time. The trap and removal just opens up a spot for another one.
Post by: Curly on April 09, 2012, 12:31:17 PM
http://www.subsistence.adfg.state.ak.us/techpap/tp198.pdf
Post by: uplandhunter870 on April 09, 2012, 12:44:04 PM
So the meat and the hide is wasted? Does anybody know?
i know a guy that used to work for US fish and wildlife at wells dam not sure what his official job description was but his job was to haze and kill (when required) seagulls that attacked and ate salmon fry that got dumped over the spill way. when he did kill a seagull he had to retrieve the bird put it in a plastic bag, freeze the bird and fill out a form for each kill (not sure what info was required) every friday he had to package up the frozen dead gulls and drive them to a regional office and a bio would do some research on them (dont know what they were looking for, id imagine they were examining stomach contents) and that was the last he saw of the birds.
i dont know what happend to the birds after the autopsy but id imagine they were thrown into a road kill pit, i bet this is what is being done with the dead sea lions
Post by: TONTO on April 10, 2012, 03:09:29 AM
So the meat and the hide is wasted? Does anybody know?
i know a guy that used to work for US fish and wildlife at wells dam not sure what his official job description was but his job was to haze and kill (when required) seagulls that attacked and ate salmon fry that got dumped over the spill way. when he did kill a seagull he had to retrieve the bird put it in a plastic bag, freeze the bird and fill out a form for each kill (not sure what info was required) every friday he had to package up the frozen dead gulls and drive them to a regional office and a bio would do some research on them (dont know what they were looking for, id imagine they were examining stomach contents) and that was the last he saw of the birds.
i dont know what happend to the birds after the autopsy but id imagine they were thrown into a road kill pit, i bet this is what is being done with the dead sea lions
Once talked with a guy that worked for the port of Astoria at the Warrenton, OR airport. One of his duties was to shoot canada geese on the runway, he pretty much had the same story, he gathered em up, tagged and bagged em then tossed them in the trash. He wasn't allowed to salvage or donate any of the meat.