Post by: TwoSixFourWins on April 15, 2012, 10:43:03 AM
1. Not a super velocity bullet without explosive results
2. Newer ones in the 50 rnd boxes are tougher than the older 100 rnd boxed ones
3. Shots through heavy bone especially at high velocity can result in a blow up.
4. Nobody seems to be "on the fence" with them, they either love or hate them.
5. Usually seem to shoot well with proper load workup
6. Much cheaper than other premium bullets
Please add your experiences including approximately how far the shot was, cartridge, velocity if known, type of critter shot, where on the body, and what the result was. I will add some of my experiences later as this post is already long.
Post by: addicted on April 15, 2012, 12:12:09 PM
I would put them on any game in washington with the correct application of accuracy and weight.
Gonna order some 120's for the wife's 7mm-08 here soon.
I understand the 7mm 120's are tougher than the 140's because they maintained the same size of bullet, just a thicker taper of copper in the walls rather than thin taper and more lead. There are several bullet "cut aways" that show this on th interweb. Honestly I trust my wifes accuracy to put that combo up to elk.
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Post by: Wazukie on April 15, 2012, 12:45:58 PM
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Post by: gasman on April 15, 2012, 01:02:30 PM
I have had great luck with them and only once had a bullet separate on me. A few years ago with the .243, i had one enterance hope and the lead and jacket separated in the body cavity. Did the damage to drop the deer on the spot :tup:
There's a video out on the web. on the comparison of the BT and other bullets and the BT did very well and even beat out some of the more premium bullets. Cant remember who did it but its worth a look at if you can find it. It may have even been posted up on this forum before, I cant remember that far back :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
Post by: bobcat on April 15, 2012, 01:16:59 PM
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6. Much cheaper than other premium bullets
That's because they're not premium bullets. At least I have never considered them to be. I have shot a lot of 150 grain ballistic tips out of my 270. I like them for their accuracy, and yes, the low price. There is no way I would use them on elk. But for deer and antleope they are good, just be careful and don't hit a shoulder or that shoulder will be wasted.
The one incident that sticks in my mind, it was about 10 years ago on an antelope hunt in eastern Montana. I shot a nice buck antelope at 320 yards with my 270, dropped him on the spot. Great performance, and I was happy, but the issue is the bullet did not exit. It clipped a rib on the way in and destroyed both lungs, and I would have expected the bullet to exit but it never even reached the far side of the body cavity. At over 300 yards that 150 grain 270 bullet was not moving all that fast and what this tells me is that this bullet is definitely not one you'd want to try killing an elk with. But I would definitley use them again for antelope.
Post by: 400out on April 15, 2012, 01:44:34 PM
:yeah: well put bobQuote6. Much cheaper than other premium bullets
That's because they're not premium bullets. At least I have never considered them to be. I have shot a lot of 150 grain ballistic tips out of my 270. I like them for their accuracy, and yes, the low price. There is no way I would use them on elk. But for deer and antleope they are good, just be careful and don't hit a shoulder or that shoulder will be wasted.
The one incident that sticks in my mind, it was about 10 years ago on an antelope hunt in eastern Montana. I shot a nice buck antelope at 320 yards with my 270, dropped him on the spot. Great performance, and I was happy, but the issue is the bullet did not exit. It clipped a rib on the way in and destroyed both lungs, and I would have expected the bullet to exit but it never even reached the far side of the body cavity. At over 300 yards that 150 grain 270 bullet was not moving all that fast and what this tells me is that this bullet is definitely not one you'd want to try killing an elk with. But I would definitley use them again for antelope.
Post by: AWS on April 15, 2012, 01:57:23 PM
I'm going to try the 40's in my 5.6x50R Mag, if I can get them to shoot will use them this coming season .
Post by: PA BEN on April 15, 2012, 05:13:24 PM
Post by: lokidog on April 15, 2012, 05:40:03 PM
Three instances I can think of, mule deer at about 90 yards going up a hill, spine hit about 6" below the head, exited front neck, DRT, exit hole was fixeable for the shoulder mount.
Elk, 400 to 500 yards (three people's estimates), before range finders... behind the shoulder, mid-height. Hit a rib and "shotgunned" through both lungs, dropped in tracks, got up, went 12 yards downhill and piled up dead. No exit but seemed to work. :chuckle:
Same bullets, last fall, saskatchewan WT, 100 yards, entered a little high, below spine, DRT, took out two ribs on way in, clipped a lung, and broke one rib on the way out, no meat wasted.
These are all I can remember details on, I think I dropped an antelope with same and several other deer.
Post by: couesbitten on April 15, 2012, 08:34:21 PM
Just shoot AccuBonds :tup:
:yeah: Used Ballistic Tips for a few seasons, was NOT impressed with the results, lots of better options out there, but best advice would be to use the Accubonds, much better bullet, great wheight retention.
Post by: uplandhunter870 on April 15, 2012, 08:41:37 PM
in the 22-250 i shoot 55gr and there is little to be found on a solid hit on a prairie gopher and rock chucks just leave a bigger mess
both calibers and all weights show superb accuracy can consistently get sub moa groups and can get one ragged hole if im having a good day on the trigger.
going to use a 150 or 180 gr in my 270 once i get it all put together.
Post by: KopperBuck on April 15, 2012, 09:00:39 PM
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Post by: JohnVH on April 16, 2012, 07:15:32 AM
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Post by: Rick on April 16, 2012, 07:44:48 AM
I would put them on any game in washington with the correct application of accuracy and weight.
Same here. I'd hunt elk or moose with BTs of the correct weight without a second thought.
I've usd BTs for probably 20 years. I've never had one stay inside an animal. I've never seen them work anything less than perfectly.
My brother uses them also. They've worked great for him for a lot of years as well.
I think a lot of the badmouthing of BTs comes from dudes that are just regurgitating something they heard some other dude say.
My experience with BTs has been nothing but positive. If they stop working (doubtful) I'll start shooting something else.
Post by: TwoSixFourWins on April 16, 2012, 07:50:28 AM
1. 308 165gr into small whitetail buck at 50 yards slight frontal shot slightly quartering complete pass through DRT
2. 308 165gr into small whitetail doe at 120+/- yards shot VERY far forward broadside in front of the near shoulder, slight quarter, blew out off side shoulder and deer only ran 30 yards and piled up
3. 30-06 125 grains medium bodied buck whitetail broadside vital shot DRT. Heart was not hit but was turned into jello
4. 7mmWSM 140 gr large whitetail doe broadside at 40 yards total internal devastation no exit DRT little meat loss
5. 243 70gr into pronghorn at 200 yards DRT
Post by: Mongo Hunter on April 20, 2012, 10:17:52 AM