Post by: ducklab on April 19, 2012, 02:57:38 PM
Just looking for opinions if you like them or dont use them.
Post by: FC on April 19, 2012, 03:12:55 PM
Post by: h20hunter on April 19, 2012, 03:25:11 PM
Post by: ducklab on April 19, 2012, 04:14:53 PM
Post by: FC on April 19, 2012, 04:19:21 PM
Decocker messes with my mind. Just can't get used the hammer dropping on a chamber with a round in it. I have never ever ever heard of it not functioning properly but it still freaks me out.
Get a Sig then, you can ease the hammer down with their decockers.
Ducklab, I can't imagine buying a new gun that was SA/DA without a decocker unless it was a revolver, try both and see what you like.
Post by: high country on April 19, 2012, 08:39:36 PM
Post by: runamuk on April 19, 2012, 08:45:23 PM
Post by: Biggerhammer on April 19, 2012, 10:46:52 PM
Post by: Bofire on April 20, 2012, 09:30:50 AM
Carl
Post by: Biggerhammer on April 20, 2012, 10:26:14 AM
I do not like them but then I do not like da/sa pistols or Sigs or CZs either :chuckle: and yes I have owned them.
Carl
Try the Sig Scorpion 1911, it will change your view of the typical Sig stero type. :tup:
Post by: Blacklab on April 20, 2012, 11:08:31 AM
Post by: 300rum on April 20, 2012, 12:24:37 PM
If you are starting out in USPSA I would suggest a Glock 17 for your first pistol and I would suggest getting a used police trade in if you can, you should be able to buy one under $400. You may also want to look into GSSF and possibly join. It has been awhile since I checked but they used to give a pretty steep discount to buy a Glock (if you must have a new one).
A G17 will put you into production division and it is the cheapest way to start in USPSA and still be somewhat competitive. I would also suggest having a trigger job done, which you can do yourself or buy a kit and do yourself. The only thing that you have to be carefull with is that the trigger is production legal (look up Vanek Custom). You will probably also at some point want to change the sights and that is also easily done. Throw in a new recoil spring and you will be good to go. The trigger, sights and spring are not required though and you will do fine learning with a box stock G17.
The reason that I suggest a G17 is that the other striker fired pistols (XD, M&P) may have subtle things good/bad about them but when you start out you will have no way of knowing what you like and what you will want in the future. A used G17 is about the cheapest way to get into the sport. Once you shoot a few 10k rounds you will begin to know what you might like/want. Then you will get your hands around a $4k 2011 custom race gun and you will immediately know the difference between a high end pistol and the also rans. You will be able to sell the G17 for what you have into it when you are ready to move to a different platform.
If you don't reload 9mm is cheaper than the other calibers and is the place to start. As far as mag holders go, get the cheap doublestack mag holders from Uncle Mike's that hold two mags (most sporting goods dealers carry them if they carry Uncle Mike's, or take a look at Amazon). As far as a holster, get a cheap Fobus or Uncle Mikes Kidex holster to start out. You will want four mags on your belt and another mag to start with. At times you can find new mags for sale around $20 on Natchez, etc., you just have to shop around. Make sure that the mags are Glock OEM and not the cheap Korean ones.
Don't hesitate to go to your first match, do it right away. There will be plenty of novices there too, you won't be the only one. Some clubs make you go through a safety check prior to your first match so you may want to call/email before you go. You will also want to read the rule book which is at USPSA.org. Pay attention especially to the DQable offenses. Don't try to be fast, just be safe and slow, and walk and have lots of fun.
One more thing. They will ask you what division you will be shooting in. With a G17 you will be shooting minor and I suggest you shoot in "Limited Division" your first few times, not in Production Division. In Production Division you will only be able to load your mags up to 10 rounds and start with 10+1. Forget about Production Division (at first) and shoot Limited Minor your first few matches (at least) so that you can focus on being safe and hitting targets instead of mag changes. Eventually, after a match or two, you will get the hang of it and then go tear up Production.
Post by: ducklab on April 20, 2012, 04:33:21 PM
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on April 20, 2012, 04:47:52 PM
Post by: 300rum on April 20, 2012, 05:28:13 PM
I should put in a disclaimer that I don't shoot a Glock in competition, I shoot a 1911 and I am having a custom 2011 done. My wife shoots a G34 though and I have shot it thousands of times myself. One of these days I will shoot production but right now I am having fun in Singlestack/Limited.
As far as being a newbie, we all were at one time. One of the biggest mistakes I see is people who are intimidated and don't show up just because they think they may embarrass themselves or show up with the wrong equipment. You will see 9 year olds all the way up to guys in their mid-80's. It is a great sport.
Oh, another thing. Bring at least 200 rounds to your first match!
Thanks for all the replys. Specially 300 rum. Your reasonings make me put the glock back on the short list. As for uspsa thanks for the advice im really just trying to have more fun with shooting sports and its reassuring to know I wont be the only newbie at a shoot. As for the decocker I guess I will hold off on that idea now that Im still not sure of what gun to buy.
Post by: coachcw on April 20, 2012, 05:42:40 PM