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Title: How do I make my new .280 a super gun?
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 24, 2012, 08:04:14 AM
I won a Rem 700 SPS .280. It has a composite camo stock. Nice gun. How much money would I have to put into it to improve it as a longer range weapon? What do you have to do to make a floating stock, etc? Thanks,
Pman
Title: Re: How do I make my new .280 a super gun?
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on April 24, 2012, 08:15:20 AM
Piano .. good cal ... you may want to shoot it first and weed out the issues that you think could be better ...trigger pull - accuracy  and how the gun fits you... it may be just fine ... free floating always helps ... but if the gun is shooting tight groups already then no need to do anything ....you take a dollar bill and slide it down the barrel between the barrel and stock and see if the barrel is touching the stock ....sometimes you get lucky and it may not be ! :twocents: :tup:
Title: Re: How do I make my new .280 a super gun?
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 24, 2012, 08:16:47 AM
Piano .. good cal ... you may want to shoot it first and weed out the issues that you think could be better ...trigger pull - accuracy  and how the gun fits you... it may be just fine ... free floating always helps ... but if the gun is shooting tight groups already then no need to do anything ....you take a dollar bill and slide it down the barrel between the barrel and stock and see if the barrel is touching the stock ....sometimes you get lucky and it may not be ! :twocents: :tup:

OK, then I have to find a scope for it first. Thanks BH
Title: Re: How do I make my new .280 a super gun?
Post by: norsepeak on April 24, 2012, 08:18:10 AM
run a dollar bill under the barrel and see where the tight spots are, then pop the action/barrel out of the stock and sand down the tight spots so the barrel doesn't touch the stock anywhere.  Then put it back together, adjust the trigger down to about 2.5, work a great load for it and ring steel! :tup:
Title: Re: How do I make my new .280 a super gun?
Post by: Curly on April 24, 2012, 08:19:17 AM
Also, to get the best accuracy, you're most likely going to have to reload.   You may get lucky and find a factory load that the rifle likes, but chances are that you will need to reload to get the optimum out of the rifle. :twocents:
Title: Re: How do I make my new .280 a super gun?
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 24, 2012, 08:31:34 AM
Also, to get the best accuracy, you're most likely going to have to reload.   You may get lucky and find a factory load that the rifle likes, but chances are that you will need to reload to get the optimum out of the rifle. :twocents:

Ha, got the bill for one year at WSU last night - reloading is probably not in my near future. And, in all fairness, when I say long range, the most I'm talking would be 500 yds on the very outside. I think if the gun has the right scope and I do what I can to make it as accurate as possible, I'd be good. So I'll get a scope for it and check the barrel, and adjust the trigger. Is there anything else I should do to the existing rifle?
Title: Re: How do I make my new .280 a super gun?
Post by: norsepeak on April 24, 2012, 08:40:07 AM
you can do yourself a huge favor and do a PROPER barrel break-in.  Go the Lilja barrels website and get the procedure.  It's a little time consuming in the beginning, but it's worth it in the end.  I've done their procedure on two of their barrels, and they are tack drivers, and clean up very easily now.
Title: Re: How do I make my new .280 a super gun?
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 24, 2012, 08:43:10 AM
you can do yourself a huge favor and do a PROPER barrel break-in.  Go the Lilja barrels website and get the procedure.  It's a little time consuming in the beginning, but it's worth it in the end.  I've done their procedure on two of their barrels, and they are tack drivers, and clean up very easily now.

Great advice! :tup: Will do.
Title: Re: How do I make my new .280 a super gun?
Post by: bearpaw on April 24, 2012, 09:23:44 AM
piano I would scope it up and shoot it before you go to lots of trouble with modifications, some guns shoot great right out of the box... :tup:
Title: Re: How do I make my new .280 a super gun?
Post by: threedwizard on April 24, 2012, 09:31:56 AM
All great suggestions! I'm a trigger man and feel a nice trigger job is money well spent. It seems to make all the difference in my long shooting rifles. Remington triggers are usually cheap to clean up and lighten.
Title: Re: How do I make my new .280 a super gun?
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 24, 2012, 09:44:06 AM
piano I would scope it up and shoot it before you go to lots of trouble with modifications, some guns shoot great right out of the box... :tup:

Good advice, thanks BP. I have a .280 and you don't! :chuckle: :chuckle:
Title: Re: How do I make my new .280 a super gun?
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 24, 2012, 09:45:30 AM
All great suggestions! I'm a trigger man and feel a nice trigger job is money well spent. It seems to make all the difference in my long shooting rifles. Remington triggers are usually cheap to clean up and lighten.

Mine has the X-Mark Pro adjustable trigger, too. I'll work on that pull. Thanks.
Title: Re: How do I make my new .280 a super gun?
Post by: Miles on April 24, 2012, 09:53:01 AM
you can do yourself a huge favor and do a PROPER barrel break-in. 

Couldn't help it...   :chuckle:

Title: Re: How do I make my new .280 a super gun?
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 24, 2012, 09:56:03 AM
That just hurts.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: How do I make my new .280 a super gun?
Post by: Todd_ID on April 24, 2012, 10:02:02 AM
It's got a bull barrel on it!  :chuckle:
Title: Re: How do I make my new .280 a super gun?
Post by: bearpaw on April 24, 2012, 10:32:13 AM
piano I would scope it up and shoot it before you go to lots of trouble with modifications, some guns shoot great right out of the box... :tup:

Good advice, thanks BP. I have a .280 and you don't! :chuckle: :chuckle:

 :chuckle: :chuckle:

I got 2 now, ha ha.....  :tup:
Title: Re: How do I make my new .280 a super gun?
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 24, 2012, 10:33:44 AM
piano I would scope it up and shoot it before you go to lots of trouble with modifications, some guns shoot great right out of the box... :tup:

Good advice, thanks BP. I have a .280 and you don't! :chuckle: :chuckle:

 :chuckle: :chuckle:

I got 2 now, ha ha.....  :tup:

Cool beans. I guess I'm outta luck for a trade then, huh?
Title: Re: How do I make my new .280 a super gun?
Post by: bearpaw on April 24, 2012, 10:39:28 AM
piano I would scope it up and shoot it before you go to lots of trouble with modifications, some guns shoot great right out of the box... :tup:

Good advice, thanks BP. I have a .280 and you don't! :chuckle: :chuckle:

 :chuckle: :chuckle:

I got 2 now, ha ha.....  :tup:

Cool beans. I guess I'm outta luck for a trade then, huh?

I lied, one is actually my wife's. But I did get a used gun form another member. They are a sweet shooting gun, I think you will like your gun once you start shooting it.  :tup:

But if you decide you don't want it, you've got my number.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: How do I make my new .280 a super gun?
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 24, 2012, 10:41:43 AM
Thanks BP.
Title: Re: How do I make my new .280 a super gun?
Post by: JimmyHoffa on April 24, 2012, 06:37:40 PM
After you've checked the float, you may want to re-bed the action yourself (if you don't like it how it is).
Title: Re: How do I make my new .280 a super gun?
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 24, 2012, 06:53:11 PM
After you've checked the float, you may want to re-bed the action yourself (if you don't like it how it is).

What does that do and is it expensive?
Title: Re: How do I make my new .280 a super gun?
Post by: JimmyHoffa on April 24, 2012, 07:15:55 PM
Not expensive at all.  Cost of bedding compound and a little time.  It basically fills gaps in the assembly of the rifle to even out stress (might not be the best word) for the mounted action.  The action and stock are made seperately using the method of interchangeable parts...which has allowable tolerances so all like actions fit all like stocks.  There is 'slop' or differences in tolerances and an action can sit differently than design (too much binding on one side vs the other).  The bedding basically customizes the stock to fit your specific action regardless of the design tolerances the action left the factory with.  A member on here had a good how-to write up a while back.  I think it was jamieb or fc.
Title: Re: How do I make my new .280 a super gun?
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 24, 2012, 07:19:09 PM
Thanks for that info. I can find this on YouTube for sure.
Title: Re: How do I make my new .280 a super gun?
Post by: deerslyr on April 24, 2012, 07:21:03 PM
Stiffen up the fore end with bedding compound, glass bed the action, free float, and adjust the trigger. That will be more than enough for a 500 yard gun. Devcon steel putty is as good as it gets and kiwi shoe polish for release agent.
Title: Re: How do I make my new .280 a super gun?
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 24, 2012, 07:23:06 PM
Thanks you guys. You've helped me a lot.
Title: Re: How do I make my new .280 a super gun?
Post by: norsepeak on April 24, 2012, 07:48:59 PM
I did a Rem 22-250 a few years ago and it worked good.  I floated the barrel, 10 min.-no money; bedded the action, 1 hour, 20 bucks on bedding compound and bees wax for release agent; adjust the trigger down to 2.2lbs, 10 min, no money, worked up a good load for it, couple of hours, about 30 bucks for powder, bullets etc.  I then dropped a good scope on it and now it shoots 1/4 -1/2 moa all day long.  Good luck, have fun. :tup:
Title: Re: How do I make my new .280 a super gun?
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 24, 2012, 07:50:26 PM
Yeah Nors, I'm starting to see YouTube videos for all of this. Thanks for the estimates. Very cool.
Title: Re: How do I make my new .280 a super gun?
Post by: high country on April 24, 2012, 09:40:52 PM
I would float the heck out of it, .075" as the sps stocks might as well be made of fresh cooked lasagna noodles. Float it, bed it, lap your rings, dial the trigger and land a good scope on it. That is about the extent of what you can do at home. Beyond that, lug lapping and a good crown are about all that's left before it gets expensive.
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