Post by: coriantonk on April 26, 2012, 07:27:49 AM
Post by: cohoho on April 26, 2012, 07:35:43 AM
Post by: h2ofowlr on April 26, 2012, 07:40:33 AM
Post by: robodad on April 26, 2012, 08:00:14 AM
I used 80-120lb braid for all Halibut fishing in AK for years and never had any problems. Here generally smaller fish, would still stick with 80lb. Problem with mono that strength is it takes up way too space on the reel and stretch... At 300 foot below the deck of the boat, your talking alot of stretch from mono... Your bottom fishing not trolling for for Tuna or Marlin where stretch is needed...
I use "Power Pro" in #80 on my halibut rods, its a small diameter so I can fit plenty of it on there to fish the various depths around here and off the coast. Another reason to stay away from mono is you'll have to use about 30-40% more weight to stay on the bottom because the line drafts so much water its difficult to stay on the bottom, and another reason you don't want the stretch is so you can feel the bottom. Back when I used mono I remember it was quite difficult to feel the bottom because my line was trailing so far behind the boat and with the stretch of the mono it was almost impossible to know when you are on bottom especially if its not exactly calm.
Post by: Bone_Collector on April 26, 2012, 09:43:44 AM
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Post by: RB on April 26, 2012, 09:58:21 AM
Just put 80lb power pro on both my reels found a decent deal on Ebay for a 1500 yard (yes 4500 feet) spool for little over $100 shipped. Best stuff ever made for bottom fishing!
Post by: sirmissalot on April 26, 2012, 11:51:33 AM
Post by: Ripper on April 26, 2012, 12:27:44 PM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on April 26, 2012, 12:42:33 PM
Post by: Rick on April 26, 2012, 04:46:56 PM
Thinner line really cuts down on how much lead you need to hit bottom. With 50# I can usually get away with 10-12 oz. less than my buddies running 65+
That doesn't seem like much,but bait checks from 600' get old in a hurry. Every little bit helps.
Post by: robodad on April 26, 2012, 04:56:05 PM
I run 50# Tuf-line XP on my rods. The problem with anything more than that is that it becomes really difficult to break free if you hang up on the bottom. You could anchor my 26' boat with 80lb.
Thinner line really cuts down on how much lead you need to hit bottom. With 50# I can usually get away with 10-12 oz. less than my buddies running 65+
That doesn't seem like much,but bait checks from 600' get old in a hurry. Every little bit helps.
I see 2 problems here, if you have to check your bait your using the wrong kinda bait, and if your fishing 600' deep :yike: well then your just in the wrong location !! besides I heard that any weight used in saltwater under 16oz will be banned because there are too many fish gulping up the smaller lead weights and sinking to the bottom unable to swim !!
Hanging up on the bottom isn't really a problem with 80# either, just use lighter hooks and you won't anchor yer boat anymore !! :tup:
Just Jokin around !! 8)
Post by: 75johndeere on April 26, 2012, 05:03:59 PM
I run 50# Tuf-line XP on my rods. The problem with anything more than that is that it becomes really difficult to break free if you hang up on the bottom. You could anchor my 26' boat with 80lb.
Thinner line really cuts down on how much lead you need to hit bottom. With 50# I can usually get away with 10-12 oz. less than my buddies running 65+
That doesn't seem like much,but bait checks from 600' get old in a hurry. Every little bit helps.
I see 2 problems here, if you have to check your bait your using the wrong kinda bait, and if your fishing 600' deep :yike: well then your just in the wrong location !! besides I heard that any weight used in saltwater under 16oz will be banned because there are too many fish gulping up the smaller lead weights and sinking to the bottom unable to swim !!
Hanging up on the bottom isn't really a problem with 80# either, just use lighter hooks and you won't anchor yer boat anymore !! :tup:
600' is actually some of the best places to fish for ling and halibut these where all out of 600' of water
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi292.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fmm24%2Fmcmurrinjr%2FDSC01851.jpg&hash=e0cb276ffe65ee5127e56fdc840e1bba02bbe8c1)
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi292.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fmm24%2Fmcmurrinjr%2Fmomspics026.jpg&hash=f90c7dbbdbd4ac4a010836933f3cbf042f2b8789)
Post by: RB on April 26, 2012, 05:10:00 PM
I run 50# Tuf-line XP on my rods. The problem with anything more than that is that it becomes really difficult to break free if you hang up on the bottom. You could anchor my 26' boat with 80lb.
Thinner line really cuts down on how much lead you need to hit bottom. With 50# I can usually get away with 10-12 oz. less than my buddies running 65+
That doesn't seem like much,but bait checks from 600' get old in a hurry. Every little bit helps.
I see 2 problems here, if you have to check your bait your using the wrong kinda bait, and if your fishing 600' deep :yike: well then your just in the wrong location !! besides I heard that any weight used in saltwater under 16oz will be banned because there are too many fish gulping up the smaller lead weights and sinking to the bottom unable to swim !!
Hanging up on the bottom isn't really a problem with 80# either, just use lighter hooks and you won't anchor yer boat anymore !! :tup:
600' is actually some of the best places to fish for ling and halibut these where all out of 600' of water
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi292.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fmm24%2Fmcmurrinjr%2FDSC01851.jpg&hash=e0cb276ffe65ee5127e56fdc840e1bba02bbe8c1)
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi292.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fmm24%2Fmcmurrinjr%2Fmomspics026.jpg&hash=f90c7dbbdbd4ac4a010836933f3cbf042f2b8789)
Nice! :yeah:
Post by: 75johndeere on April 26, 2012, 05:17:16 PM
Post by: Bone_Collector on April 26, 2012, 06:31:49 PM
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Post by: 75johndeere on April 26, 2012, 06:39:00 PM
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Post by: YoterHunter on April 26, 2012, 06:40:28 PM
Post by: coriantonk on April 26, 2012, 11:22:39 PM
Post by: jeepster on April 27, 2012, 02:04:56 AM
some things to consider.... when loading a reel with anything larger than 85lbs braid, you start sacrificing line capacity... lighter line means more line, heaver line, means needing to buy a bigger reel...
also, i never like to fill up a reel with something i cant break... consider this: if you are 200 feet down using 120lbs line, and you hang up, and cant break it off, well... then you have to cut your line, and are out 200 feet of line... with braid being .12$ a foot or so, thats 25$ in line give or take
i dont know about the rest of you guys, but, i doubt i will ever go back to using mono
ive also used dacron, but you sacrifice line capacity with it, as ive found its extremely hard to beat the diamater of powerpro...
my halibut setup is an Avet LX with 490 yards of 85 power pro, on a shimano trevalla rod rated at 80-200lbs braid
the thing about line, is most of the reels that average joe can afford have drag systems around 10-15lbs, high end reels might get up to 25lbs. my avet goes to 20 some, but thats also a top shelf reel, i think a penn senator 6/0 goes up to 15lbs, and thats a heavy duty star drag (also holds 950+yards of 100lbs braid). you gotta figure a 30lbs fish (dead weight lets say), pulling 10 lbs on a run, with 15lbs of drag is only putting 35lbs on your line. so, with 85lbs breaking strength line, it would still take around a 65lbs pound fish fighting like a raped ape to bust that line, with your drag all the way cranked down.... if that makes ANY sence at all...... im writing this at 2am so i doubt it will.....
id pay alot more attention to your drag system than line... and when you found a drag system you like, then id pack as much line onto that reel as realistically possible
id go for lighter line, as much line as you can get on your reel, and make sure it has a damned good drag system.... line capacity and a good drag will get you ALOT farther than just brute strength and a line that only jaws could break :twocents:
Post by: cohoho on April 27, 2012, 08:04:29 AM
Post by: RB on April 27, 2012, 09:56:52 AM
Why would you cut the line that is snagged??? That is a waste of line, tie it up on the a cleat and have the boat pop it off... Might break the hook, might break at the knot, sure better than losing 200+ foot of line... :tup: :tup: :tup: :tup: Do not recall ever breaking off a big AK Halibut. Hook might pop out if there is any slack due to weight of lead, but haven't seen any Halibut break off the line if you know how to fight a fish, never want to utilize the maximum of your drag as that will prematurely smoke the reel and cause you to replace drag early. If it is a big fish let em have it, he'll tire...:yeah:
Gotta be quick and use lots of slack to get it around the cleat and make darn sure not to get it around your fingers cause you will lose them with the heavy braided lines. As someone already said you can literally anchor a large boat with the stuff
Post by: sirmissalot on April 27, 2012, 10:34:05 AM
I use 80lb not becuase I might catch a 100lber, but because I just have a little more abrasion resistance with heavier line. The fact is my reel really only has 30lbs of drag max so even 60lb line would be plenty... I don't think most people realize how much 30lbs of drag really is.
Post by: JimmyHoffa on April 27, 2012, 11:40:07 AM