Hunting Washington Forum
Big Game Hunting => Backcountry Hunting => Topic started by: longrangekiller on May 01, 2012, 08:17:23 PM
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just wondering what everyone uses for there back country hunting? i have a rino 530 hcx it works awsome with the land owners chip and stuff in it theres lots of land that a never knew was open to hunt until i got it hahaha
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That is the same unit I use and most people that I hunt with as well. Very nice features, just make sure that you are all on the same datum, if you are trying to share waypoints and locations (they will be close but not accurate otherwise).
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I just bought the Rino 655t maybe 2 months ago. Been using it shed hunting quite a bit and it's been great! Love the satellite photo capabilities and the 5 mp camera!
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thanks fisher thats a good thing to know hahah
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Garmin Geko 101.
It's small, light, basic, and the batteries last a LONG time.
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Garmin 530 great unit
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garmin Oregon
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Gamin Vista H. Not too flashy but it won't break the bank, either. Works just fine.
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I just bought the Rino 655t maybe 2 months ago. Been using it shed hunting quite a bit and it's been great! Love the satellite photo capabilities and the 5 mp camera!
:yeah: x2
The large touch screen works with gloves on, too. Get the optional alkaline battery pack so you don't have to worry about recharging in camp.
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I have an older Rino and like it, but since my other hunting partners didn't have it i don't think i got full use of its capabilities. If you have other partners with them :tup: if not maybe a simpler/cheaper one...
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Oregon 450T. No need for a camera in my GPS, as I pack a 14MP camera all the time for photos. Great mapping. Weather resistant. Touch screen. Simple to use. Great battery life. Topo feature is nice for running ridges. Has capabilities of holding several states worth in maps with an upgrgaded larger SD card. Even with the new Garmin's out, I have no desire to switch at this point. :twocents:
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Garmin GPSMAP 60Csx. Burns in extremely quick EVERYWHERE!
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Oregon 450T. No need for a camera in my GPS, as I pack a 14MP camera all the time for photos. Great mapping. Weather resistant. Touch screen. Simple to use. Great battery life. Topo feature is nice for running ridges. Has capabilities of holding several states worth in maps with an upgrgaded larger SD card. Even with the new Garmin's out, I have no desire to switch at this point. :twocents:
I have same unit and mine eats batteries
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Oregon 450T. No need for a camera in my GPS, as I pack a 14MP camera all the time for photos. Great mapping. Weather resistant. Touch screen. Simple to use. Great battery life. Topo feature is nice for running ridges. Has capabilities of holding several states worth in maps with an upgrgaded larger SD card. Even with the new Garmin's out, I have no desire to switch at this point. :twocents:
I have same unit and mine eats batteries
More powerful equipment takes more power. I get 14 hours out of my recharge unit and about 8 out of the alkaline batteries, on constantly. I keep it off unless I'm using it and will get many days use. It locks onto satellites immediately, regardless of cover or weather. And being able to see your buddy's position whenever he keys the mic is awesome. Having sat images of where you are is incredible. You can switch back and forth between them or have a hybrid of both.
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My brain..... Which sometimes steers me a little off!!!! :chuckle: Might need to look into one of these...
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rino 120
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rino 120
same here,it sucks compared to the newer ones but the frigin thing wont die so i cant see myself getting a new one. while i pretty much just use it for the radio its still handy to have the gps when im in new areas. i pretty much do most of my navigation by compass,way more convenient.
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I snagged one off craigslist for cheap, works great, we have 3 of them now, batteries last a couple full days, does what I need to do, love them.
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Oregon 450T. No need for a camera in my GPS, as I pack a 14MP camera all the time for photos. Great mapping. Weather resistant. Touch screen. Simple to use. Great battery life. Topo feature is nice for running ridges. Has capabilities of holding several states worth in maps with an upgrgaded larger SD card. Even with the new Garmin's out, I have no desire to switch at this point. :twocents:
I have same unit and mine eats batteries
The cheapo free batteries I get last about 4-5 hours. The higher end rechargables I run last several days. I very rarely leave my GPS on except during fishing. As far as for hunting applications, it's usually off until I need to use it, then off again. Therefore, I can't really guesstimate the true battery life, but it definately lasts quite a while. I bought some lithiums for trail cams and plan on trying them out in the unit soon.
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I have one of these as well and is what my wife has used in the past but I will probably upgrade her this year to a 530HCX. It is bulletproof.
rino 120
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Rhino 110 two of them. 5 years and they will not die.
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I have one of these as well and is what my wife has used in the past but I will probably upgrade her this year to a 530HCX. It is bulletproof.
rino 120
Sell me the 120? :)
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I use the Rhino 530 HCX, I think the higher sensitivity receiver is worth every penny. My buddy has the 120 and can't get signal half the day in the Bumping unit because of trees , canyons etc. He will have no signal & my display shows me the six satellites I'm receiving with full signal. I would spend the extra going into the back country and as discussed the batteries last for days. Mike
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High sensitivity basic garmin e-trek.
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Delorme PN-40 for a year now. Pretty cool with the satellite imagery. Also have the Topo USA loaded.
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Oregon 550T. It's *censored*tical. ;)
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Oregon 450T. No need for a camera in my GPS, as I pack a 14MP camera all the time for photos. Great mapping. Weather resistant. Touch screen. Simple to use. Great battery life. Topo feature is nice for running ridges. Has capabilities of holding several states worth in maps with an upgrgaded larger SD card. Even with the new Garmin's out, I have no desire to switch at this point. :twocents:
I have same unit and mine eats batteries
-Throw acouple extra batteries in your pack, problem solved! I looked at the new Montana, looks just like the oregon but 3 times bigger? Wtf would a guy wanta pack that thing around?? Maybe for the truck or something idk, I will stick to my oregon too :twocents:
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I'll change things up a bit. I have a Magellen explorist 500 that I got as a Christmas gift from my parents with a rechargable battery. I have had it for years and it has been great for my "crabbing" holes.
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I normally just use a map and compass but if I get lazy then I will use the Garmin Foretrex 401... I have used many GPS systems and this is by far my favorite. Very simple and very convenient.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1210.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fcc413%2Fdbhawthorne%2Fforetrex-401.jpg&hash=d46c22894aa9d687e2185779dc4c07a589edae7f)
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Oregon 450T. No need for a camera in my GPS, as I pack a 14MP camera all the time for photos. Great mapping. Weather resistant. Touch screen. Simple to use. Great battery life. Topo feature is nice for running ridges. Has capabilities of holding several states worth in maps with an upgrgaded larger SD card. Even with the new Garmin's out, I have no desire to switch at this point. :twocents:
I have same unit and mine eats batteries
-Throw acouple extra batteries in your pack, problem solved! I looked at the new Montana, looks just like the oregon but 3 times bigger? Wtf would a guy wanta pack that thing around?? Maybe for the truck or something idk, I will stick to my oregon too :twocents:
I use lithium batteries in mine and they last a lot longer more money but worth it.
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Oregon 450T. No need for a camera in my GPS, as I pack a 14MP camera all the time for photos. Great mapping. Weather resistant. Touch screen. Simple to use. Great battery life. Topo feature is nice for running ridges. Has capabilities of holding several states worth in maps with an upgrgaded larger SD card. Even with the new Garmin's out, I have no desire to switch at this point. :twocents:
I have same unit and mine eats batteries
-Throw acouple extra batteries in your pack, problem solved! I looked at the new Montana, looks just like the oregon but 3 times bigger? Wtf would a guy wanta pack that thing around?? Maybe for the truck or something idk, I will stick to my oregon too :twocents:
I use lithium batteries in mine and they last a lot longer more money but worth it.
I second the lithium... especially if you are going to have it on a lot or will be using it in extreme cold temps... I will say that the good thing about the Garmin 401 is that it's on your wrist so it helps prevent cold soaking of the batteries.
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I got the Garmin Oregon 550t and love it!
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Oregon 450T. No need for a camera in my GPS, as I pack a 14MP camera all the time for photos. Great mapping. Weather resistant. Touch screen. Simple to use. Great battery life. Topo feature is nice for running ridges. Has capabilities of holding several states worth in maps with an upgrgaded larger SD card. Even with the new Garmin's out, I have no desire to switch at this point. :twocents:
I have same unit and mine eats batteries
-Throw acouple extra batteries in your pack, problem solved! I looked at the new Montana, looks just like the oregon but 3 times bigger? Wtf would a guy wanta pack that thing around?? Maybe for the truck or something idk, I will stick to my oregon too :twocents:
I use lithium batteries in mine and they last a lot longer more money but worth it.
I second the lithium... especially if you are going to have it on a lot or will be using it in extreme cold temps... I will say that the good thing about the Garmin 401 is that it's on your wrist so it helps prevent cold soaking of the batteries.
- Where do you find lithium batteries at?? Ive been looking for them and they seem hard to find!?
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Oregon 450T. No need for a camera in my GPS, as I pack a 14MP camera all the time for photos. Great mapping. Weather resistant. Touch screen. Simple to use. Great battery life. Topo feature is nice for running ridges. Has capabilities of holding several states worth in maps with an upgrgaded larger SD card. Even with the new Garmin's out, I have no desire to switch at this point. :twocents:
I have same unit and mine eats batteries
-Throw acouple extra batteries in your pack, problem solved! I looked at the new Montana, looks just like the oregon but 3 times bigger? Wtf would a guy wanta pack that thing around?? Maybe for the truck or something idk, I will stick to my oregon too :twocents:
I use lithium batteries in mine and they last a lot longer more money but worth it.
I second the lithium... especially if you are going to have it on a lot or will be using it in extreme cold temps... I will say that the good thing about the Garmin 401 is that it's on your wrist so it helps prevent cold soaking of the batteries.
- Where do you find lithium batteries at?? Ive been looking for them and they seem hard to find!?
I just pick mine up at Walmart. They usually have them.
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garmin Oregon
Got it and I like it as well. Lots of great features easy to use. Like others say it does eat batteries, I switched from alkaline to nickel metal hydrate and they last 4X longer. I was getting about 8 hrs with the alkaline
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i use lithiums
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A good compass and a topo map.. best GPS I have ever had....
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HB that is definatly a skill that is lost on most people except military... :bash:
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I can use a map and compass anywhere, anytime. But, I prefer using the technology. I carry both.
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I think the Rhino's are awsome especially when out in a group, and i love mine... But i cary both as well.
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I also carry a Silva Ranger and maps. I love using the compass but it is hard to beat a Rino clipped on your harness for quick ease. I use Google Earth to mark points of interest then transfer that to my Rino and just follow the line so that I can focus more on looking around for game signs.
If anyone on the wet side needs help with learning map/compass skills let me know and maybe we can meet up and I would be glad to show you how to use a good compass or read maps.
A good compass and a topo map.. best GPS I have ever had....
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I very rarely have a need to use a map and compass anymore. I still carry them with me, but the GPS gets much more use.
A GPS is just so much more useful, and a lot faster to use.
Oh, and I have a Garmin 60csx, and have had it for several years with no problems. I'd ilke a newer one with the aerial photo capability but as long as this one keeps working I won't spend the money on a new one.
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I also carry a Silva Ranger and maps. I love using the compass but it is hard to beat a Rino clipped on your harness for quick ease. I use Google Earth to mark points of interest then transfer that to my Rino and just follow the line so that I can focus more on looking around for game signs.
If anyone on the wet side needs help with learning map/compass skills let me know and maybe we can meet up and I would be glad to show you how to use a good compass or read maps.
A good compass and a topo map.. best GPS I have ever had....
How do you transfer from Google Earth to the Rino? I've been trying to figure this out since I got it and can only use the subscription stuff so far. Please run me through it. Thanks!
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Pman with GE you can get LAT LONG points and enter those into your GPS, so you can't really transer it over per say but you can place a pin on GE and get the gps cordinate for it, then place that location on your gps by hand. :twocents:
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I also carry a Silva Ranger and maps. I love using the compass but it is hard to beat a Rino clipped on your harness for quick ease. I use Google Earth to mark points of interest then transfer that to my Rino and just follow the line so that I can focus more on looking around for game signs.
If anyone on the wet side needs help with learning map/compass skills let me know and maybe we can meet up and I would be glad to show you how to use a good compass or read maps.
A good compass and a topo map.. best GPS I have ever had....
that is a good idea and great service you offer,it would be cool to do that at the annual BBq I put on here for folks on site..I to use the map and compass,but my skills are limited,and walking now is a pain.The GPS saves me some roving,and it shoots through my coat so it stays warm and dry
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Try this link and let me know how much easier your life became :chuckle:
http://www.huntinggpsmaps.com/tutorials/scouting-gps-waypoints-and-tracks-in-google-earth.html
Pman with GE you can get LAT LONG points and enter those into your GPS, so you can't really transer it over per say but you can place a pin on GE and get the gps cordinate for it, then place that location on your gps by hand. :twocents:
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Thanks Cascade.
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No Problem, I just copied a link.
It takes some setup and proficiency to get fast at it but it is awesome in the field to have this.
Rasbo, I love BBQ so let me know when and where.
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That's cool. Is there a way to transfer sat images?
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No Problem, I just copied a link.
It takes some setup and proficiency to get fast at it but it is awesome in the field to have this.
Rasbo, I love BBQ so let me know when and where.
keep an eye on the events board,under 4th annul BBQ :tup:
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Pman with GE you can get LAT LONG points and enter those into your GPS, so you can't really transer it over per say but you can place a pin on GE and get the gps cordinate for it, then place that location on your gps by hand. :twocents:
I have a Vista HCX that I use in conjunction with compass and map. I get bearings to next waypoint on the GPS and use my compass to stay on bearing while observing terrain and features in conjunction with reviewing the map. The Vista HCX' diminutive antenna is not as good as the GPSMAP 60csx with the larger antenna, and it looses satellite fix in heavy trees more quickly than the GPSMAP 60csx. but it is what I have until it dies. As always, the map and compass are a good cross check on what the GPS tells you, as it is easy to get turned around.
As far as transferring between Garmin and Google Earth, I have been using GPSbabel (free) to convert between the two for some time, and it works pretty well.
http://www.gpsbabel.org/
I use it to transfer back and forth between Garmin, NatGeo TOPO, and Google earth. It also handles a large number of other manufacturers' file formats.
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I don't know how :dunno:
That's cool. Is there a way to transfer sat images?
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I have a Garmin etrex 20. More features than I need. I get maps off of Google earth now thanks to the links provided on here. Very simple to use. Long battery life. I also carry a map which isn't used a lot other than in camp when planning for the next day.
I don't carry a compass, for me its weight I don't use. If my gps crapped out on me all that is needed is a good topo map and using terrain association. Using this method I could navigate across Washington if I had to.
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Has anyone used the Birdseye view from Garmin? I bought the Delorme PN40 and use their satellite imagery, it's slow uploading, but currently I have about 20% of the state on my SD card. Pretty awesome to look at google earth while out in the field and see the rock you are standing next too...
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I have a Garman etrex also, saved my bacon more than a few times, getting back to my truck after dark in a howling snowstorm.
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Has anyone used the Birdseye view from Garmin? I bought the Delorme PN40 and use their satellite imagery, it's slow uploading, but currently I have about 20% of the state on my SD card. Pretty awesome to look at google earth while out in the field and see the rock you are standing next too...
Yep, It kicks ass.
;)
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I don't carry a compass, for me its weight I don't use. If my gps crapped out on me all that is needed is a good topo map and using terrain association. Using this method I could navigate across Washington if I had to.
Very true but terrain navigation can be close to impossible during times when visibility is restricted. A good compass also comes in handy when the terrain features aren't so defined. Of course the odds of your GPS crapping out are very low and the odds of the GPS just so happening to crap out during a low vis time are probably lower.
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I would never leave my map and compass at home. Together they weigh almost nothing and its solid insurance.
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If I'm hunting in an area I'm not familiar with, I wouldn't want to be without a compass. I would use it in conjunction with the GPS. When I'm hunting, I only take the GPS out occasionally. It runs the batteries down too fast to leave it on all the time, plus I don't have enough hands to carry it, when I've already got a rifle to carry. So when I need to get back to the truck at the end of the day, or find any of the other waypoints I have stored in the GPS, I pull it out and turn it on, and get the bearing to that location. Then it's time to put the GPS away and pull out the compass, and use it to stay on that bearing. No need to use the GPS for that. Now if I'm just out for a hike, or scouting, I do like to leave it on all the time so I can see on the map where I've been.
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For me using a compass is a pain. I can navigate to specific points using a map and terrain association. Of course I am also trained in this skill and have countless foot patrols navigating via this way. Compasses break just as often as a gps does in my experiences.
Most of my navigation is by map only. I use my gps to mark down exact spots and then use it again to find that spot if need be. But as far as traveling or when Im hunting usually I just use a map. I also dont need a compass to tell me the cardinal direction I am traveling.
As far as traveling in low light goes. Gonna be using my gps. If my gps goes down I can still navigate using terrain association its just much more difficult. If I'm "lost" or an emergency situation its not ideal or safe to travel at night anyways. I realize for most people a compass and map go hand in hand, but with proper training and experience a compass isn't needed.
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How do you use "terrain association" when the terrain is relatively flat? I don't know, a compass just seems like a basic navigation tool that I wouldn't want to be without. Like I said I normally I can get by with just the GPS, but a compass sure makes life a lot easier. I'd much rather have a compass than a map, if my GPS quit on me. At least I could go in a straight line, even in the dark.
But hey, whatever works for you.
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I used terrain association in Iraq both times I went. Which is pretty flat. Not many terrain features but there is some features you can use. A building here a clump of trees there etc.
As far as WA goes I have never seen a spot in WA that is flat. There is always terrain features and elevation changes. Even in Eastern WA.
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I should also mention I didn't go straight from compass and map to ditching the compass. I relied on the map/compass combo for awhile. But through all my land nav training and patrolling training where I had to use navigation skills, I slowely but surely had my compass out less and less. Eventually I got to where I would only take a general bearing with the compass and go. Looking at the map all the way there. Eventually I got to the point where I could figure out almost exactly where I was just using my map.
Sort of like when using a road map to navigate you don't need a compass. To me the hills valleys, and contours of the terrain are like roads to me. I can look at a map and correlate to what I am looking at in the actually terrain in front of me.
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Well I can do that with a map too, but it's still easier to pull the compass out my pocket and give it a quick glance once in a while, instead of trying to keep track of where I am on a map all the time. I like to look at a map at the end of the day back at camp, or at home, but I don't very often pull it out while I'm hunting. Especially now with the map on the GPS. I very rarely will use a paper map.
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Personally, I would rather spend my time looking for sign, animals, tracks, etc. instead of constantly looking at my map or GPS. :tung:
But then, I have rarely needed my map/compass/gps when out in the woods.
Great God given sense of direction is a beautiful thing. :chuckle:
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I carry map, compass, gps, I phone with aps for all of the above, SPOT, and often an arial photo. Rarely use any of them but the gps. With my mapping gps I can easily see what's around me as far as terrain, roads, land ownership, ect.... Map or arial show the same. The rhino buddy tracking feature is great. I often mark stuff with my gps but rarely use the marks. If I've bean there once, I can generally walk right back to the spot even years later. Probably from years of setting trap lines. Never used map or compass, and didn't know what a gps was back then and never lost a trap or myself. Current gps of choice is the 530 hex just cause I can't bring myself to upgrade to the 600 series.
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I just use the old e-trex. Works great in the high country. I barely use much in the forest, the tree canopy is so dense I can barely get signal. Occasionally, I'll find an area open enough to get a location entered in.
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Personally, I would rather spend my time looking for sign, animals, tracks, etc. instead of constantly looking at my map or GPS. :tung:
But then, I have rarely needed my map/compass/gps when out in the woods.
Great God given sense of direction is a beautiful thing. :chuckle:
Well obviously when I'm hunting I do this. I'm referring to when I'm scouting a new area. If I'm hunting a place I've been before I dont need this stuff. Other than the gps to mark wallows, rubs etc. I imagine most people on here are like that. If they've been there a few times not a whole lot of map and compass work.
And yeah a good sense of direction is priceless. My wife when it comes to the mall has an internal gps. Take her to the hills as soon as she takes two steps from camp she gets lost :chuckle:
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And yeah a good sense of direction is priceless. My wife when it comes to the mall has an internal gps. Take her to the hills as soon as she takes two steps from camp she gets lost :chuckle:
I do pretty good in the woods even without map, compass, or GPS, but it seems like as soon as I step foot in a mall I get turned around, and my wife has to lead me back to the car when we're done. :DOH:
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Malls are easy once you locate a few key stores that will get your internal compass oriented in there - Sears, whistle work wear and Victoria's Secret. :chuckle:
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And yeah a good sense of direction is priceless. My wife when it comes to the mall has an internal gps. Take her to the hills as soon as she takes two steps from camp she gets lost :chuckle:
I do pretty good in the woods even without map, compass, or GPS, but it seems like as soon as I step foot in a mall I get turned around, and my wife has to lead me back to the car when we're done. :DOH:
:chuckle: you and me both.
I purposely get lost at Victoria secrets. :chuckle:
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I used terrain association in Iraq both times I went. Which is pretty flat. Not many terrain features but there is some features you can use. A building here a clump of trees there etc.
As far as WA goes I have never seen a spot in WA that is flat. There is always terrain features and elevation changes. Even in Eastern WA.
I also primarily use terrain navigation but I still carry a compass because it only weighs a few ounces. It has never saved me from being hopelessly lost (and doubt it ever would because I can't imagine that I would ever be hopelessly lost at this point in my lifebut) However, it has saved me some time.
Navigating in most of the flat areas of Iraqs different from being in the forest. Most areas of WA are easy to terrain nav but I can think of a few areas where it's flat enough and thick enough that a compass would be handy (though not critical).
I definitely agree that a guy who knows how to terrain nav could make do without a Compass in all but the rarest of occasions.
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And yeah a good sense of direction is priceless. My wife when it comes to the mall has an internal gps. Take her to the hills as soon as she takes two steps from camp she gets lost :chuckle:
I do pretty good in the woods even without map, compass, or GPS, but it seems like as soon as I step foot in a mall I get turned around, and my wife has to lead me back to the car when we're done. :DOH:
:chuckle: you and me both.
I purposely get lost at Victoria secrets. :chuckle:
X3 me too :chuckle:
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First off I NEEED that class on using a map and compass. Sadly this is a skill I have never learned. :DOH:
Second I really want a GPS that will work in heavy timber. I have a Rino 120 and a cheaper Magellan. They both work great for my needs as long as there is open sky and I have 10 minutes to wait for a link up. But I got turn around one night in some timber and both GPS's were worthless. I had a compass (thank god) and knew there was a road close as long as I kept traveling south. Never been more scared while in the woods and I was only lost for about 30 minutes. :chuckle: Was not even cold or anything and I totally had a mini panic attack. :chuckle:
I might be able to talk the wife into a better unit if the price is not to high.
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First off I NEEED that class on using a map and compass. Sadly this is a skill I have never learned. :DOH:
Second I really want a GPS that will work in heavy timber. I have a Rino 120 and a cheaper Magellan. They both work great for my needs as long as there is open sky and I have 10 minutes to wait for a link up. But I got turn around one night in some timber and both GPS's were worthless. I had a compass (thank god) and knew there was a road close as long as I kept traveling south. Never been more scared while in the woods and I was only lost for about 30 minutes. :chuckle: Was not even cold or anything and I totally had a mini panic attack. :chuckle:
I might be able to talk the wife into a better unit if the price is not to high.
My Garmin Oregon 550T hasn't had any problems whatsoever in the heavy timber. Used it every day at elk camp on Mt. St Helens last year, keeping track of my mileage and elevation change each day.
I also use it getting up in the woods close to home here on the Olympic Peninsula.
The only time I lose satellite signal is in buildings.
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Second I really want a GPS that will work in heavy timber. I have a Rino 120 and a cheaper Magellan. They both work great for my needs as long as there is open sky and I have 10 minutes to wait for a link up. But I got turn around one night in some timber and both GPS's were worthless.
There is a trick to help with this. Even my Garmin 60csx sometimes has a problem locking on to enough satellites, if I'm in heavy timber. It always will EVENTUALLY, but it could take a half an hour or more. But here's the trick- just be sure to always turn the GPS on before you get to your hunting area, while you are in the open. Let it find the satellites so it knows where it is, and then go ahead and shut if off until you need it. When you do turn it back on I guarantee it will find the satellites much quicker. It makes a huge difference. That's why I always try to remember to turn my GPS on when I leave my house, or camp, in the morning, then I turn it off when I get out of the truck and start my hunt.
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Second I really want a GPS that will work in heavy timber. I have a Rino 120 and a cheaper Magellan. They both work great for my needs as long as there is open sky and I have 10 minutes to wait for a link up. But I got turn around one night in some timber and both GPS's were worthless.
There is a trick to help with this. Even my Garmin 60csx sometimes has a problem locking on to enough satellites, if I'm in heavy timber. It always will EVENTUALLY, but it could take a half an hour or more. But here's the trick- just be sure to always turn the GPS on before you get to your hunting area, while you are in the open. Let it find the satellites so it knows where it is, and then go ahead and shut if off until you need it. When you do turn it back on I guarantee it will find the satellites much quicker. It makes a huge difference. That's why I always try to remember to turn my GPS on when I leave my house, or camp, in the morning, then I turn it off when I get out of the truck and start my hunt.
Thanks. I guess I never waited long enough then. I usually turn it on at camp or the truck to mark a way point and then turn it off. Just never had luck getting a signal in trees.
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I'll lose the signal too kain. Even if I link in an open spot like a landing and then move into the timber I lose it within a few minutes. The way I understand it is the gps either needs a larger antenna (less compact) or an amplified antenna (more battery drain) or both. I don't know if hand held can use an external in the port that most come with.
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Thanks. I guess I never waited long enough then. I usually turn it on at camp or the truck to mark a way point and then turn it off. Just never had luck getting a signal in trees.
It could be that you just need to get a new Garmin that has the high sensitivity receiver, liky my 60csx. As long as I do what I said in the previous post, and turn it on at some point when it has an open sky, it has never been unable to lock onto enough satellites, no matter how heavy the timber.
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I'll lose the signal too kain. Even if I link in an open spot like a landing and then move into the timber I lose it within a few minutes. The way I understand it is the gps either needs a larger antenna (less compact) or an amplified antenna (more battery drain) or both. I don't know if hand held can use an external in the port that most come with.
I had this problem constantly with my Delorme Earthmate, the POS model. Sometimes, it never locked in heavy timber. I've never had a problem locking in less than 30 seconds with the Rino 655T. Rinos rock.
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We had this discussion 5 years ago & someone on here had a cheap gps, a Rhino 120 & a 530 HCX. He stated back then that the cheap one he had to be outside for signal, the 120 got signal in his living room & his new 530 HCX had full signal even in his basement. I went out & spent the money that week for the 530 HCX and have been very satisfied. The HCX is worth every penny. I hunt the mountains & timber all day in the cascades and have signal all day. One buddy came with me & his GPS had troubles all day hunting the bumping. He ordered one right away. I'm glad I didn't cheap out as usual & have 3 useless GPS units in the closet . Mike
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even $7000 trimbles take some time in heavy timber
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Well I went with that Oregon 450T form Cabela's. Hopefully it is powerful enough for my needs. Just no way i could swing any of the other units that were suggested unless I sold a kid. :chuckle:
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I have used the Magellan Explorist line for years. Last elk season my explorist 100 took a crap on me when I needed it most. I wanted to mark my elk kill and it failed me, it got the black screen. I still use my explorist 210, and it runs fine. I am in the market for a new one.
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I normally just use a map and compass but if I get lazy then I will use the Garmin Foretrex 401... I have used many GPS systems and this is by far my favorite. Very simple and very convenient.
(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1210.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fcc413%2Fdbhawthorne%2Fforetrex-401.jpg&hash=d46c22894aa9d687e2185779dc4c07a589edae7f)
I use the fortrex as well with a greenmap of the area for topo info...another bonus is it uses same aaa batts as my headlamp...still packing compass with all this as well
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Well I went with that Oregon 450T form Cabela's. Hopefully it is powerful enough for my needs. Just no way i could swing any of the other units that were suggested unless I sold a kid. :chuckle:
I'm about to get my .280 back from the gunsmith and will be ready to go out and do some predator hunting with you, Kain. Our Garmins will be compatible for keeping track of each other. Let's go kill us some killers!
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Well I went with that Oregon 450T form Cabela's. Hopefully it is powerful enough for my needs. Just no way i could swing any of the other units that were suggested unless I sold a kid. :chuckle:
I'm about to get my .280 back from the gunsmith and will be ready to go out and do some predator hunting with you, Kain. Our Garmins will be compatible for keeping track of each other. Let's go kill us some killers!
I thought you needed a Rino for that? Does the Oregon have that capability too?
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Well I went with that Oregon 450T form Cabela's. Hopefully it is powerful enough for my needs. Just no way i could swing any of the other units that were suggested unless I sold a kid. :chuckle:
I'm about to get my .280 back from the gunsmith and will be ready to go out and do some predator hunting with you, Kain. Our Garmins will be compatible for keeping track of each other. Let's go kill us some killers!
I thought you needed a Rino for that? Does the Oregon have that capability too?
I thought it did, but maybe not. I still want to go out with Naithan and see how a real predator predator does it! :tup: Sorry, thread jacked.
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Garmin 60csx here as well. It is simple enough and gets a signal quickly. Invaluable but always carry a map and compass too.