Post by: hoytem on May 04, 2012, 03:02:45 PM
http://wdfw.wa.gov/hunting/bear_cougar/bear/graphics/lg_counties_bear.jpg
Post by: Special T on May 04, 2012, 03:23:37 PM
Post by: Cascade_fisher on May 04, 2012, 03:23:53 PM
Post by: MikeWalking on May 04, 2012, 03:34:14 PM
The USFS has confirmed sightings in that shaded area but I understand they don't talk much about it.
Post by: Dan-o on May 04, 2012, 04:18:29 PM
2) 12-15 years ago, there was confirmed griz (sow and cub) on Kapowsin tree farm deep into sough Pierce county around base of Mt. rainier. WDFW confirmed by scat and hair sample and tracks.
3) Multiple unconfirmed griz sightings north of Cle elem (liberty area). I have one trusted friend who swears he saw a griz there. I believe him.
Any of those would be a do-able walk for a bear to get to South King county.
I have no inside info on their actual range, but I guess I wouldn't have any real reason to dispute the map.
Post by: hoytem on May 04, 2012, 05:41:55 PM
Post by: Knocker of rocks on May 04, 2012, 06:04:41 PM
1) Last Fall, Seattle times had a pretty clear pic of a griz. They said a hiker took it "in the north central cascades" if I recall correctly.
Sahale Arm of NCNP to be exact
2) 12-15 years ago, there was confirmed griz (sow and cub) on Kapowsin tree farm deep into sough Pierce county around base of Mt. rainier. WDFW confirmed by scat and hair sample and tracks.
I have a friend who is a PhD Grade Wildlife Biologist for the USFS. He has stated that they have suspected that there were Griz in the Cascades for over twenty years, but have had difficulty getting DNA evidence. This could have happened prior to DNA testing becoming very accurate and relatively cheap
3) Multiple unconfirmed griz sightings north of Cle elem (liberty area). I have one trusted friend who swears he saw a griz there. I believe him.
My friend has heard about these, and believes them highly plausible. They think most griz are north of the White River (Chelan Co), north and NE thru Glacier Peak Wilderness, NCNP and the Paysayten
Any of those would be a do-able walk for a bear to get to South King county.
Yep
I have no inside info on their actual range, but I guess I wouldn't have any real reason to dispute the map.
Seems like a good map
Post by: Knocker of rocks on May 04, 2012, 06:09:49 PM
I guess after thinking about it for a while the green river water shed could be very possible place. Still just seems like most of the small number of grizz would be passing in/out from Idaho and Canada. :dunno:
There has always been griz north of the border up thru the Coquihala and Manning Prov. Park
Post by: Dan-o on May 04, 2012, 06:41:25 PM
I wish I could remember more about the griz confirmation in Kapowsin. I do remember that they (WDFW) called it a confirmation. Back then, it was Champion timber land, and I remember it pretty clearly because I ued to hunt deer in that exact area.
You'd think that maybe with all the trail cams out there, somebady would eventually catch a griz?????
Does anybody recall maybe 18 years ago when soem area in Mansahtash was quickly closed down due to a griz sighting? Seems like I recall something like that, but .........
Post by: Button Nubbs on May 04, 2012, 06:47:01 PM
3) Multiple unconfirmed griz sightings north of Cle elem (liberty area). I have one trusted friend who swears he saw a griz there. I believe him.
funny you should mention that. a few years back a buddy and i were turkey hunting in the cle elum area. we had just hiked this hell (an i mean HELL) trail to try and drop over the back side of the ridge only to find out it was a false summit :bash: :chuckle: we sat down above this drainage to take a break and were watching some deer on the other side. we heard some crashing in the bottom and there was the biggest *censored*ed bear i have ever seen. it was about 300 yards away but was one of those animals that makes you go "holy s%$t!" immediately. it was a brownish blonde color.
i have seen my fair share of bears and had an up close not so friendly encounter with a kodiak :chuckle: i honestly think the bear we saw could have rivaled the size of that kodiak. i just figured it was a giant color phase blackie, it didnt even occur to me that grizz could possibly be in the area. makes a guy wonder...
Post by: Knocker of rocks on May 04, 2012, 06:54:40 PM
You'd think that maybe with all the trail cams out there, somebady would eventually catch a griz?????
I thought they had the same special eye sigght as bigfoot, and could see IR
Post by: Scottystyle on May 05, 2012, 01:01:15 AM
Post by: Knocker of rocks on May 05, 2012, 09:56:40 AM
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2015482252_grizzly02m.html
Post by: MikeWalking on May 05, 2012, 10:18:45 AM
Post by: JimmyHoffa on May 05, 2012, 11:37:58 AM
BTW does anybody want "Recovery Zone" to become official? As in no more access, Recover Zone..I had read earlier in the year that the FS was closing down maybe a couple hundred miles of road in WA/ID near the Selkirk area to help grizz recovery.
Post by: NataSS on May 05, 2012, 07:27:08 PM
Post by: WAcoueshunter on May 05, 2012, 09:20:13 PM
Post by: Special T on May 05, 2012, 10:28:03 PM
Post by: brackens on May 07, 2012, 11:47:07 AM
Post by: hoytem on May 07, 2012, 03:01:58 PM
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Post by: Ripper on May 07, 2012, 10:05:38 PM