Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on May 05, 2012, 12:16:22 PM
Bob
Post by: HORSEPOWER on May 05, 2012, 01:13:19 PM
Post by: mazama on May 06, 2012, 09:08:19 AM
Post by: Tbar on May 06, 2012, 01:00:14 PM
Post by: kirkl on May 06, 2012, 03:11:23 PM
These hunts are done by a hunt coordinator (game officer). He coordinates the hunter with the landowner and when where and how they are allowed to hunt. There are tags issued for every animal. The hunt coordinator must set up every thing and get it approved prior to issuing any tags.
Not true. Farmers around here just get issued damage tags and anyone with a valid deer or elk tag is able to hunt if there are damage tags availabe.
The landowner just logs your wild id down to show he is letting people hunt per damage tag. Master hunter hunts have hunt master controlled hunts though.
Post by: dblungshot on May 06, 2012, 05:25:26 PM
I'm thinking these special permits are good for those people who are well connected with the callers authorized to issue the phone calls? Maybe a fine bottle of scotch, whisky, or some good maple syrup would help the caller to remember who is important and "worthy" of the opportunity.
Unless I'm wrong, these MH special permits (most are DH specific) are fruitless unless you have connections. Someone correct me if I'm wrong because I now avoid DH because of this thought process. Maybe it's good if I'm wrong for those who easily take advantage of their connection or other known knowledge....
Post by: kirkl on May 06, 2012, 05:55:43 PM
controlled hunt last year and i think your right dblungshot they call there buddies first if they get drawn. i did get called last year, i was number 16 on the list.
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on May 06, 2012, 06:40:08 PM
Thanks
Post by: Skyvalhunter on May 06, 2012, 06:46:29 PM
Post by: kirkl on May 06, 2012, 06:48:26 PM
your tag. the damage control permit is just basically a permit that the game dept. gave the farmer. it is only a permit, not a tag. so yes, if you killed a elk during general
season then killed one with a damage permit with no elk tag you would be poaching.
This is if were talking about the same thing which i think we are.
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on May 06, 2012, 07:58:52 PM
Post by: rose673 on May 06, 2012, 09:36:10 PM
Farmers who have more than 40 acres of land and show a valid point that they are losing value to the destrution of elk on their land may be eligible for a damage permit if the local game warden sees fit. The game warden will give the time period of when the animal can be harvested, which is usually 2 or 3 weeks, then when animal is harvested the farmer is supposed to report to that game warden, but does not put his general tag on the animal. I know a few farmers where I am from who harvest elk during the season and usually take a cow in december from a damage hunt and it is legit. Like I said I might have misread your last message, but that is how they take care of the damage control permits here, and Im not sure about the MH permits.
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on May 07, 2012, 06:01:42 AM
Post by: kirkl on May 07, 2012, 07:36:05 AM
kirkl - I might not be comprehending your message correctly but the damage control permits are given out differently here in sw wa.
Farmers who have more than 40 acres of land and show a valid point that they are losing value to the destrution of elk on their land may be eligible for a damage permit if the local game warden sees fit. The game warden will give the time period of when the animal can be harvested, which is usually 2 or 3 weeks, then when animal is harvested the farmer is supposed to report to that game warden, but does not put his general tag on the animal. I know a few farmers where I am from who harvest elk during the season and usually take a cow in december from a damage hunt and it is legit. Like I said I might have misread your last message, but that is how they take care of the damage control permits here, and Im not sure about the MH permits.
hhhmmm, they must do it in different ways like you say. over here they just give them damage tags and i think there good till he uses them all up then can apply for more if need be. they must have different options.
Post by: Dan-o on May 07, 2012, 08:18:49 AM
* Landowner damage control tags are given to landowners who experience damage.
* Master Hunter hunts are intended to limit said damage and work in conjunction with hunt coodinators (sometimes). I have my Master Hunter. I was called 3 years ago and got to hunt. My son drew the same tag but was lower on the list. whe I asked, they guy said they go strictly by draw number. I believe him. He was a volunteer and a good guy. I've been in the program 8 years. Been drawn once... for what it's worth.
Post by: rose673 on May 07, 2012, 08:21:18 AM
Post by: HntnFsh on May 09, 2012, 06:00:03 AM
kirkl - I might not be comprehending your message correctly but the damage control permits are given out differently here in sw wa.
Farmers who have more than 40 acres of land and show a valid point that they are losing value to the destrution of elk on their land may be eligible for a damage permit if the local game warden sees fit. The game warden will give the time period of when the animal can be harvested, which is usually 2 or 3 weeks, then when animal is harvested the farmer is supposed to report to that game warden, but does not put his general tag on the animal. I know a few farmers where I am from who harvest elk during the season and usually take a cow in december from a damage hunt and it is legit. Like I said I might have misread your last message, but that is how they take care of the damage control permits here, and Im not sure about the MH permits.
This is correct.And I believe they have to fill out a form and notify the game warden when an animal is harvested.
Post by: DIYARCHERYJUNKIE on May 09, 2012, 04:59:29 PM
kirkl - I might not be comprehending your message correctly but the damage control permits are given out differently here in sw wa.
Farmers who have more than 40 acres of land and show a valid point that they are losing value to the destrution of elk on their land may be eligible for a damage permit if the local game warden sees fit. The game warden will give the time period of when the animal can be harvested, which is usually 2 or 3 weeks, then when animal is harvested the farmer is supposed to report to that game warden, but does not put his general tag on the animal. I know a few farmers where I am from who harvest elk during the season and usually take a cow in december from a damage hunt and it is legit. Like I said I might have misread your last message, but that is how they take care of the damage control permits here, and Im not sure about the MH permits.
This is correct.And I believe they have to fill out a form and notify the game warden when an animal is harvested.
So even with five permits in western wa on a damage hunt the landowner could give them all to one person and let them kill all the animals and not tag them and keep the meat??? I don't care about the MH. I called four differnt offices and was told ALL ANIMALS MUST BE TAGGED. One said some damage control hunts are for food banks and the hunter/landowner gets no meat. He said some landowners do keep the meat. I still have no clue. I'm not askin if it's possible for one person to get all of the permits from the land owner. I'm waiting for a call back to see what the final word is.