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Big Game Hunting => Bear Hunting => Topic started by: rasbo on May 15, 2012, 05:48:56 AM
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I'm thinking 99 percent will say No...But I find the greater percentage of people I hunted with or try to show them some things are..This not to say having a fear is or makes one less of a man,Just an observation..of all the time I used to spend in the woods only one bear has tried to get me without calling or hunting them.I shot that bear at the end of my rifle barrel.I have had them come so close when calling,or when you could bait,just walk up to you a few times.Once while calling in the off season,myself and a buddy where in and I called a nice blackie in,when he was within what I thought was close enough,I growled at him and stood up,this made him keep coming with the hair raised on the back,and slobber dripping from his mouth.My buddy Bruce said Damn don't growl at him. :chuckle:I pulled my 44 mag and yelled at him while waving :chuckle: he turned and just walked away.I quit calling in the off season,I didn't want to shoot one out of season...I find black bears are like people attitude wise.Some are brave,some are Leary,most just don't want anything to do with ya...Hunt the bears the way you are comfortable,I like to be where they are,and I love to be close to them.Be prepared for any attitude one might have.There was a popular guy treadwell I believe his name WAS.He thought he knew bears and was foolish and that ended up in the death of him and his girlfriend.I know that was a Griz..my point is don't be so cocky or so know it all that you think a black bear wont but the bite on ya....If you prepare yourself mentally and practice in your mind{Mental masturbation} several scenarios you will be rewarded with great times and a sense of calm while hunting them....
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Heck ya I am afraid of them!
A fast animal that has teeth and claws.... we should all take note. I don't lose any sleep over it, I do not feel they are at all interested in coming at or after me, but shoot one and then go into a thicket after it, yeah, this makes the hair on the back of my neck stick up...
I am not generally not their prey but they would surely rip me up quick in an attempt to get out or put me down temporarily to get the cubs to safety... something to be concerned about.
Had one sniff at me thru my tent on a solo hunt trip once....spooky. Never had one close on my while hunting, at least that I knew of... :yike:
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I'm not scared bears are big Teddy bears. I'm cautious of them but not afraid.
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Not particularly. But the first bear I ever killed came in full tilt when I was calling in the timber. I shot the bear at about 10 yards and it was still on a dead run when i shot and it somersaulted to a stop near my feet. That will get your attention. I don't really fear them but i respect the hell out of them.
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I guess that I would be part of that 99% and say no. I have a respect for them and even more, I have developed a fascination with them.
I get lots of pictures with them by trail cam and hand held cameras. I have been charged by them and even been swatted at by one. One thing I did learn was that they mostly do shy away from you if they see you but not always. One of the first times that I was photographing bears I ran into one while very far from my vehicle. I took it's picture while it stopped and looked at me, then it started to come to me. I took another picture and it stopped for a moment and then kept on coming towards me. I figured that it was close enough, so I started waving my arms and telling it to go away. It just kept on coming to me, I was pretty surprised at it's behaviour. Well I had a 357 with me that had 6 bullets in it, I figured that it had only one warning shot coming and the rest would be to stop it. When I fired a warning shot, it took off like a race horse. Man they can move fast, faster that you think they can by far.
I love seeing them and being around them and feel very fortunate to be able to find them and watch them. As I type this I just decided that I am going to head for the hills and see if I can get some more pics today. :)
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Afraid? I don't think so but I believe it is a fine line between fear and respect. I will say this, when I walked up on the first one I killed that was buried up in the pucker brush I am pretty sure my heart was beating faster than a cardiologist would have liked to have seen.
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I'm not scared of them. I respect them. If they were to charge, I would shoot them all well knowing they would kick my a$$ if they got a hold of me. When in the thick and they come barreling through the bushes as they wind you or you spook them, there can be some pucker factor. But I like that adrenaline rush!
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its a wild animal, and I dont trust wild animals. There are enough vids out there of people getting mauled by anything that I dont mess around.
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Bears no.....cougars YES.
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While I don't fear them, and would never burden myself with the additional weight of a sidearm for the sole purpose of defending myself against one, I maintain a healthy respect for any predator in the woods that is capable of taking me-sized prey.
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I was terrified of the damn things, saw too many too many times way too close, back then I was more afraid of guns than things with teeth and claws so spent all my time unarmed in the woods and fields. Then I decided to learn about them something Rasbo posted on here about hunting them caught my attention and then I started asking questions. BTKR took me out hunting them and that sealed it and changed my mind, now I dont fear them as in terror stricken oh my god I am gonna be ate by a bear, instead I get one hell of an adrenaline rush at the thought, and still cannot wait to finally kill one. I just keep looking for them and when I can afford it I will hunt them again, until then I am learning this new area. I do wonder if anyone ever nailed that big guy that I had been chasing around :chuckle: :dunno:
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I respect them and what they are capable of....
Fear them? Nope..
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You have a higher chance of being killed driving to or from hunting than you do having a bear or cougar eat ya. I like them and one day hope to kill a brown with my bow....
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Sometimes in the middle of the night I get the creeps but most of my hunting is done alone. Lots of calling. Walking hours and hours in the dark and naps against a stumps and I never even think about bears or cats.
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NOPE!! Always carry a .22 LR pistol and hunt with a partner......
A .22 pistol.
Reasons:
1. Small, light weight, easy to carry.
2. Mild report and almost non-existant recoil.
3. Affordable ammo so can practice with alot without breaking the bank.
4. When your hunting partner is shot in the knee/shin area with a .22, the resulting thrashing and flopping around on the ground along with the high-pitched screamming like a little girl, not only will distract what may be a threat to you, but can also double as an attractant for predators allowing a chance at an additional trophy.
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only the ones with sika gear in there crap !
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Worried the Sh$!!1 out of me when this little one came in my tent. Thats the back of the tent.
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I was never scared of black bears even with a few very close calls with popping and chomping. I just took that as I was not respecting their comfort zone, lol.
Then I watched a special on "Predatory black bears" that was on TV about 10 years ago. They had actual footage of how a predatory black bear behaves! That really opened my eyes. The dang things just won't quit until they eat you or you kill them. They said they are 1/1000 so I may never come across a bear like that. I will always remember the look in the eyes of the predatory bears they showed. They all had the "I'm going to eat you, and there is nothing you can do about it" look, lol.
I also saw a smaller black bear shot in the heart, but it took it a while to die. In that time it proceeded to tear up every huck and salal bush and snap off tons of alders within a 20 yard radius before he finally died. The damage was impressive! I darn sure would not have liked to be within his sight during that maelstrom.
I think they are awesome animals that deserve our respect.
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Sometimes in the middle of the night I get the creeps but most of my hunting is done alone. Lots of calling. Walking hours and hours in the dark and naps against a stumps and I never even think about bears or cats.
Kain, I was napping against a stump a few years ago and a very large cougar came to me. I truly believe it was my steady snoring that called it in. I had to kill it within 30' of me.
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I respect them and what they are capable of....
Fear them? Nope..
:yeah:
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Sometimes in the middle of the night I get the creeps but most of my hunting is done alone. Lots of calling. Walking hours and hours in the dark and naps against a stumps and I never even think about bears or cats.
Kain, I was napping against a stump a few years ago and a very large cougar came to me. I truly believe it was my steady snoring that called it in. I had to kill it within 30' of me.
See that sounds like a good thing to me. :chuckle: Never said I was very smart. *adds snoring to e-caller*
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Afraid? Well yes and no. In a normal situation I am not worried about them and do not fear them. There is a couple of time when I have got into tuff spots with them. One just 10 days ago. They more make me worry some about my saftey but am I affraid of the animal? no. Am I affraid of what the animal can do in a tight spot yes! :chuckle:
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Like most of you yes and know. I agree with Carp.
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Black bears don't really bother me awake. Trying to sleep, I wonder about one trying to get in the tent/bivy for food. Even walking around in the dark I'm not concerned...cougars are a different story. For the bears, mostly it is due to their size/strength. If a bear jumped on the tent it would suck compared to a 100 pound cougar.
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Respect, not afraid of
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The only agressive bear I have ever encountered was one that my buddy shot while we were grouse hunting when I was 18. The bear ran in front of us, I grabbed the dog, my buddy put a slug in his shotgun and shot the bear in the throat. The bear flopped over, rolled down the hill towards us and lay still. I let go of the dog, who ran up to the "dead" bear and started barking like a maniac. :bdid: The bear sat up on his haunches and started growling and swatting at the dog. I grabbed the dog, my buddy loaded another slug and shot the bear again. Since then, I have been leary whenever I walk up to a "dead" bear.
That being said, I have never had a bear act aggressively towards me otherwise. I don't much worry about them.
Cougars are a little different story though. Walking back to camp in the pitch dark under trees with thick limbs gives me the heebie-jeebies...
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No but sure do respect the heck out of them,.... Killed a big chocolate in Idaho back in the early 90's... of course it slid all the way down to a creek bed, about 600 foot down. SO I slide on my butt down to it... now I have my 357 in the holster and its laying motionless, so no worries. I get to my feet and look around... no blood. Hmmmm... poke it with a big stick... its dead. Cool, grab my knife out of the backpack, grab a front paw to roll it over... and out of the corner of my eye I see the other paw come swinging at me. Yep... screamed like a little girl.... guys up on the ridge yelled down to make sure I was ok... thank god I carry TP in the backpack. Bear was dead as can be, but sure got me going.... LOL I now approach a downed bear very cautiously, seen to many of "That bear has to be dead" and crawled through thick stuff to find it really pissed off...
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Black bears dont concern me much; but those cracker bears! Cant trust em.
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Bearbaito6, would love to hear that story.
my only incounter with a bear was at 10'- 06 below the left eye & through the brain. after it rolled backwards it took off. glad it went the other direction because it had enough left to tear me & my bud up. took 2 more to put it down.
the scarry part is how quite they are. they are just there.
my main worry is getting between momma & cubs.
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Only time I got a little worried was when I was about 14 years old and my brother put me in a tree stand over a bear bait station - then left my ass there WAY past dark.
Then all the bears came in, hell I couldn't see my nose it was so black under that thick cedar canopy and no moon and no flashlight.
One came up my tree, I could hear it and feel the vibrations as it clawed its way up towards me - but I couldn't see it.
I counted 3-4 bears under me cracking bushes and sniffing around and running each other off - few huffs and jaw pops and such.
then finally I hear the truck horn out on the gravel road a good 100 yards from the bear bait - I fired off a shot in the air to scatter the bears then walked that long black walk to the truck.
Still not scared of them, but I'll keep one hand near my gun if they don't run off when they should
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Only time I got a little worried was when I was about 14 years old and my brother put me in a tree stand over a bear bait station - then left my ass there WAY past dark.
Then all the bears came in, hell I couldn't see my nose it was so black under that thick cedar canopy and no moon and no flashlight.
One came up my tree, I could hear it and feel the vibrations as it clawed its way up towards me - but I couldn't see it.
I counted 3-4 bears under me cracking bushes and sniffing around and running each other off - few huffs and jaw pops and such.
then finally I hear the truck horn out on the gravel road a good 100 yards from the bear bait - I fired off a shot in the air to scatter the bears then walked that long black walk to the truck.
Still not scared of them, but I'll keep one hand near my gun if they don't run off when they should
Where I come from (Kettle Falls actually) we would call that a "significant emotional event" :yike:
I actually had something like that happen to me when I was about 17 (minus the tree climbing). I was set up over a bait (no tree stand, just perched on a limb) that a bear kept hitting after dark. So I decided to stay up there until one showed up. About 30 minutes after dark he did. Watched him bat around a white 5 gallon grease bucket for a while (it was a dark night, all I could see was the bucket). I waited until he left before I climbed down.
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My 2 steers jumped the fence and joined the neighbors herd (80 + or - ) I was on my quad checking on them in the back pasture when I see the herd in a half circle around a fir tree with a bear 5ft up the tree. Mother cows and young calves all moving in for a closer look. Mr bear jumped down from the tree ears lain back and went after moma cow the herd got a little agitated and moved on the bear and up the tree he went again this went on 3 times and I was wishing I had a camera. The 3ed time mr bear was about 6ft off the ground I buzzed over on my quad hoping to run him further up the tree and take a pic with my phone but he jumped down and ran over towards the creek, I drove up to within 30ft of him and he just stood there lookin at me. Not a big bear 100-125lbs but entertaining. Lots of newborn calves he could be dining on. Don't fear them but respect them as a predator.
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I wear a seatbelt, but I'm not afraid to drive. I lock the doors at night, but I'm not afraid I'll be killed in my sleep. I blood trail bear with a gun, but I'm not afraid to stick one with a bow at mere yards away. Riding in the truck at night while the blind angry squaw drives home after shooting a monster bear...Now that scares the wholly crap out of me!
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As a victim of a black bear attack i will say that yes im afraid of black bears in certain situations. first year mamas can be very unpredictable under the wrong circumstances. :twocents:
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Bears no.....cougars YES.
Must be a UW alum...
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I wear a seatbelt, but I'm not afraid to drive. I lock the doors at night, but I'm not afraid I'll be killed in my sleep. I blood trail bear with a gun, but I'm not afraid to stick one with a bow at mere yards away. Riding in the truck at night while the blind angry squaw drives home after shooting a moster bear...Now that scares the wholly crap out of me!
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I wear a seatbelt, but I'm not afraid to drive. I lock the doors at night, but I'm not afraid I'll be killed in my sleep. I blood trail bear with a gun, but I'm not afraid to stick one with a bow at mere yards away. Riding in the truck at night while the blind angry squaw drives home after shooting a moster bear...Now that scares the wholly crap out of me!
:chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle: :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL:
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Most of the time I'm not afraid of bears. I get really nervous when I see a cub and not the sow. I do get scared when trying to recover one in chest high brush. :yike:
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Yes, I am scared of them. And as soon as it gets dark. I am afraid of bigfoot also. Gun or no gun. Cant shoot what you can't see.
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Squaring off....
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about ready to hand my ass to me.......
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The reason why...... I had been in the middle of her and her cubs with a keen eye on her, and all was fine. I turned to see a boar standing next to me, he walked into the brush where her cubs were. Crap hit the fan and she went on the defense.
The time I got attacked, also had to do with two bears. This time between two boars and I just happen to be between them and unaware of the events.
Another time Crap almost hit the fan was also with multiple bears......we rode our horses and mules between a boar and a sow during mating season.
The cub she was protecting.
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Squaring off....
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Great photos and nice explanation!
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The sow I squared off with in Alaska was gigantic. Never imagined seeing a blackbear so big. DANG they eat well up there. I jumped her and her cubs while fighting through a devils club patch. One cub shot up a tree and the other bolted. She squared on me and made multiple charges. She came pretty close to having a moose tag on her ear. She was torn between the two cubs. She finally bolted after the other one finally. I photographed the one in the tree and moved on. I was seeing a multitude of blacks gorging on cranberries or whatever they were. When they have their heads down feeding, they aren't necessarily paying attention. I'll try to find the pics of the cub in that tree. Its bigger than most washington bears. I think everything up there is just bigger. Of course with some of the Kodiaks wandering around in the hood....
Somewhere out there there is a bear telling the story about when he was attacked when he was sleeping. I was shed hunting and hopped over a big downed log. Landed smack on top of a sleeping bear. LOL I went in REVERSE and he went in get the hell out of here mode. LOL
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cool pics bone.I was skirting some thick stuff,and a cub jumped out of some salmon berries ahead of me.Momma came out and slapped the Lil guy back in the berries,all the while I'm trying to pull my 44 just in case.The gun would not come out of the holster..My butt now looking like sturgeon lips feeding I'm sure :yike:,another cub jumps out then another,momma comes back out and swats them both back into the brush,that was the last I seen of them..this did wonders for the great sucking sensation that was causing a wedgie.Went back to my rig and found that the site on the gun had worn through the liner in my holster.I had to cut the end of the holster off.I made a call that night and ordered a leather pancake holster.
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That jaw popping always has a way of adding to the pucker sensation....
The boar that attacked me came at an unreal pace. I knew it was coming. I went from puckering to life and death mode. He wasn't backing down. When he charged it was crazy fast....crazy fast. I hit him in the chest full speed. His momentum slammed him into me and knocked me ass over tea kettles. It knocked my hat off and thats what he pounced on. When I quit tumbling down the hill I had another round in and crossed his shoulders as he chewed on my hat. He would have ripped me a new one. Damn nice bear.
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the one that came after me I shot at point blank range in the face,it flipped him over and he left asap...big bear,we never found him,I found parts of lips or gums not sure,but we followed him with a decent blood trail for about 1 1/2 miles in a steep thick drainage,pouring rain, we lost all sign.never found him.his front pad was a full 6inches ,I still worry when Im hiking in the dark now..I can see that event like it was yesterday in my mind..
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i wasnt until this thread :chuckle:
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Exactly what I was thinking!
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Amazing how quiet they can be... I was calf and cow calling during early elk last year... for about 15-20 minutes, after I decided to get up and move to another area, I stood up, took a few steps and there was a big cinnamon bear looking down into the reprod at me... from 10 or so yards... of course no arrow nocked.... and out of my mouth came the proverbial... "$H.....t", of course it just bolted the other way when it realized there was not a nice calf dinner down there. Not scared but sure do hold a lot more respect for what they can do.. biggest fear is the sow and cubs....
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i wasnt until this thread :chuckle:
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Cool stuff Bone. Davy Crockett's got nuthin' on you... :tup:
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Several times I have been sitting in a treestand and had a bear walk out from under my stand that I had no clue was there. My two scary situations were both with smaller bears, one while predator calling. I heard pine needles directly behind me being stepped on. All the hair on the back of my neck stood up as I knew in order to hear that, it was close. I turned and there about 10 yards away was a small bear, one that I did not want to shoot, so I spoke to it softly, it stepped forward. I stood up and squared off on it and spoke again, a little drewl dripped from it's mouth and it pinned it's ears back and took another step forward. I'm thinking crap it has no idea what I am. It got a face full of pepper spray and left. The other time was in Northern Maine. I was fishing for brook trout along the Machias River. I had a five foot ultra light spinning rod and reel and inadvertently walked between a small sow and her very young cub. She bluff charged me three times and I think I filled my shorts all three times!
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Several times I have been sitting in a treestand and had a bear walk out from under my stand that I had no clue was there. My two scary situations were both with smaller bears, one while predator calling. I heard pine needles directly behind me being stepped on. All the hair on the back of my neck stood up as I knew in order to hear that, it was close. I turned and there about 10 yards away was a small bear, one that I did not want to shoot, so I spoke to it softly, it stepped forward. I stood up and squared off on it and spoke again, a little drewl dripped from it's mouth and it pinned it's ears back and took another step forward. I'm thinking crap it has no idea what I am. It got a face full of pepper spray and left. The other time was in Northern Maine. I was fishing for brook trout along the Machias River. I had a five foot ultra light spinning rod and reel and inadvertently walked between a small sow and her very young cub. She bluff charged me three times and I think I filled my shorts all three times!
:chuckle: who woulda thunk prairie doggin could be so exciting :chuckle: I killed a small one that came in while calling,walked up from behind just a foot or so away,it had a bad limp,when it wiffed me it turned an put its paws on a downed log and looked at me,maybe 15 feet.I dumped it..first bear for me...It had been shot through the gut by someone,i found out after skinning it....I later found out an old ranger vet shot at one a mile or so above me that morning,Im sure it was that bear...
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Amazing how quiet they can be... I was calf and cow calling
Had that with a grizz over in North Idaho. Calling moose and heard a twig snap behind me. Turned to have a griz standing RIGHT THERE. Felt a little naked with the longbow in hand. Thankfully he also felt a bit duped.
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Thankfully he also felt a bit duped.
Nope he was thinking crap a Sapphire Hawk!! :)
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I have to say Yes, and No with a healthy respect as well. Never been attacked but have had two occasion that bear were so close I could here them breath and oh the pooping of those teeth is almost to much. Both times I was in timber with 6 foot high huckleberry brush where you could see at the most 10 yards. After an encounter like that you spend the rest of the day looking behind you. The encounter that has stayed in my mind the most for over 45 years, is when I was 8 years old. My 16 year old brother, his friend and myself were 2 miles back in the woods at a small pond about an acre in size just messing around. The frogs were going crazy. We started shooting the 22 in the water to shut up the frogs, which did not work. From across the pond we hear a very low and loud growl three times. What really put the hair up on the back of our necks was the frogs in the pond went completely silent. You could hear a pin drop except for our hearts racing. As an 8 year I was scared out of my mind. What made it worse was my brother and his friend ran and left me standing there. To this day I have never forgiven him for that one. Was it a bear, more then likely due to a very large population in that area at that time. But it sure as heck was not afraid of us.
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I have to say Yes, and No with a healthy respect as well. Never been attacked but have had two occasion that bear were so close I could here them breath and oh the pooping of those teeth is almost to much. Both times I was in timber with 6 foot high huckleberry brush where you could see at the most 10 yards. After an encounter like that you spend the rest of the day looking behind you. The encounter that has stayed in my mind the most for over 45 years, is when I was 8 years old. My 16 year old brother, his friend and myself were 2 miles back in the woods at a small pond about an acre in size just messing around. The frogs were going crazy. We started shooting the 22 in the water to shut up the frogs, which did not work. From across the pond we hear a very low and loud growl three times. What really put the hair up on the back of our necks was the frogs in the pond went completely silent. You could hear a pin drop except for our hearts racing. As an 8 year I was scared out of my mind. What made it worse was my brother and his friend ran and left me standing there. To this day I have never forgiven him for that one. Was it a bear, more then likely due to a very large population in that area at that time. But it sure as heck was not afraid of us.
Bigfoot
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I was going to say that but wanted to keep this thread on track.
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Amazing how quiet they can be... I was calf and cow calling
Had that with a grizz over in North Idaho. Calling moose and heard a twig snap behind me. Turned to have a griz standing RIGHT THERE. Felt a little naked with the longbow in hand. Thankfully he also felt a bit duped.
Did you atleast get some good pictures of him?
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Yikes, I have a story like that myself but involved another predator. My uncle and I sat under a tree and cast our lines out in the pond. After a while I kept hearing something above me. I just figured it was a bird or squirrel. Nope a big cougar looking down at us. :yike: I was 10 or 11 at the time, but I figure we either woke him up, or he treed up when we walked to the pond, and we just happened to sit under that tree. I bet the cougar was more scared of us than anything.
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Did you atleast get some good pictures of him?
Ah NO. Can't say that was a priority at the moment.