Post by: splitshot on June 04, 2012, 05:54:08 PM
Post by: coyotewallace on June 04, 2012, 05:57:59 PM
Post by: Sabotloader on June 04, 2012, 06:48:54 PM
my son is looking for a 50 cal. muzzy. what is the best brand to shop for? what is the best gun to get? mike w
These are unfair questions!!! :) :)
I am so biased there really is only one good answer...
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Take the scope off and put a peep sight back on + Western Kit ignition system...
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And you have the best... It will shoot most any combination you put down the barrel...
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But remember I am BIASED - totally
Post by: Brushbuster on June 04, 2012, 08:51:02 PM
I ended up buying from the factory direct cuz I wanted to be sure I got the "Western Edition Ignition". I also bought the 209 Ignition cuz I hunt in New Mexico.
I've had great luck w/ my Knight MK-85 but figured it was time to upgrade. :tup:
Post by: SkookumHntr on June 04, 2012, 09:00:24 PM
Post by: teanawayslayer on June 06, 2012, 08:27:59 PM
Post by: adamR on June 06, 2012, 08:35:05 PM
Accurate out to 200 yards, dropped my bull at 150 yards last year no problem.
Post by: carpsniperg2 on June 06, 2012, 08:57:28 PM
I have had a vortek and took it back. I was shooting it for the first time and had the gun go off sitting in the sled without me touching it. Just sitting on the bench. Lucky for me it was in a led sled and that saved me. It would have hurt me if it was not in the sled. There has been plenty of people out there that have had this happen and tons of people that have had tons of problem with miss fires. More then a few people on this site even. It seems like about half of them work great, the other half cause problems and can be dangerous like the one I had.
Post by: fair-chase on June 06, 2012, 09:28:57 PM
Post by: bobcat on June 06, 2012, 09:37:08 PM
Dang, am I the only one left who still preferrs a sidelock these days???
No, I sold the Black Diamond I had and kepy my sidelock, a Lyman.
Will be hunting elk with it this year, and possibly deer if I decide to buy the multi-season tag.
Post by: MtnMuley on June 06, 2012, 10:12:50 PM
Post by: Sabotloader on June 07, 2012, 07:15:27 AM
Sabotloader -- is that muzzy for sale?
Which one?
But probably not... I have a White Lightening coming and if it does what I hope it will do - I may be moving a MK but not a DISC.
Post by: et1702 on June 07, 2012, 07:38:56 AM
Dang, am I the only one left who still preferrs a sidelock these days???
No again...I'm building an underhammer ML w/1:28 twist 50cal Corlerain barrel and I still have my TC hawken too.
ET
Post by: Kowsrule30 on June 07, 2012, 11:48:58 AM
Post by: teanawayslayer on June 07, 2012, 04:35:30 PM
everyone always talks crap about traditions vorteks but I love them, My wife, father, and I all have one and have never once had a mis fire. keep them clean and change the musket breech out for a number 11 and you'll never have a problem.I have owned cva, traditions, winchester. They are all made by the same company and they are not made in the usa. They are built cheap and feel cheap when you are holding one. To each there own. If you go with the knight you will not have to end up buying two or three until you find the one you finally like. just my :twocents:
Accurate out to 200 yards, dropped my bull at 150 yards last year no problem.
Post by: coyotewallace on June 07, 2012, 04:43:03 PM
everyone always talks crap about traditions vorteks but I love them, My wife, father, and I all have one and have never once had a mis fire. keep them clean and change the musket breech out for a number 11 and you'll never have a problem.I have owned cva, traditions, winchester. They are all made by the same company and they are not made in the usa. They are built cheap and feel cheap when you are holding one. To each there own. If you go with the knight you will not have to end up buying two or three until you FINALLY BUY A KNIGHT. just my :twocents:
Accurate out to 200 yards, dropped my bull at 150 yards last year no problem.
there...fixed it for ya, lol
Post by: Sabotloader on June 07, 2012, 04:51:53 PM
everyone always talks crap about traditions vorteks but I love them, My wife, father, and I all have one and have never once had a mis fire. keep them clean and change the musket breech out for a number 11 and you'll never have a problem.I have owned cva, traditions, winchester. They are all made by the same company and they are not made in the usa. They are built cheap and feel cheap when you are holding one. To each there own. If you go with the knight you will not have to end up buying two or three until you FINALLY BUY A KNIGHT. just my :twocents:
Accurate out to 200 yards, dropped my bull at 150 yards last year no problem.
there...fixed it for ya, lol
Yote you are just as biased as I am... but they are good... Knights that is!
Post by: Kowsrule30 on June 07, 2012, 09:52:47 PM
Post by: colockumelk on June 08, 2012, 06:08:33 AM
Knight Wolverine
http://www.knightrifles.com/muzzleloader-wolverine/ (http://www.knightrifles.com/muzzleloader-wolverine/)
Knight Little Horn
http://www.knightrifles.com/littlehorn-muzzleloaders/ (http://www.knightrifles.com/littlehorn-muzzleloaders/)
Post by: whacker1 on June 08, 2012, 06:48:50 AM
Post by: GEARHEAD on June 08, 2012, 07:38:04 AM
Post by: Ridgerunner on June 08, 2012, 05:16:19 PM
Post by: plague on June 09, 2012, 10:51:10 AM
Post by: teanawayslayer on June 09, 2012, 10:58:29 AM
thanks :chuckle:everyone always talks crap about traditions vorteks but I love them, My wife, father, and I all have one and have never once had a mis fire. keep them clean and change the musket breech out for a number 11 and you'll never have a problem.I have owned cva, traditions, winchester. They are all made by the same company and they are not made in the usa. They are built cheap and feel cheap when you are holding one. To each there own. If you go with the knight you will not have to end up buying two or three until you FINALLY BUY A KNIGHT. just my :twocents:
Accurate out to 200 yards, dropped my bull at 150 yards last year no problem.
there...fixed it for ya, lol
Post by: Sabotloader on June 09, 2012, 11:19:01 AM
With the Knight Extreme, how does its ease of cleaning compare with the Remington? Thats the only front stuffer that I have experience with....
To be honest with you it is about the same when using a cap for ignition. The breech is going to get dirty. The bolt cleaning and spring maintenance is almost non-existant with the Knight bolt and it comes apart with no special tools.
Now I am a real fan of the Knight but again being honest if you have a Rem 700 ML in good condition shooting caps - I do not know if you are making a huge leap forward with the Extreme. BUT, if you were to go to 209 ignition - that would be a very different story.
Post by: plague on June 09, 2012, 11:25:46 AM
Post by: Sabotloader on June 09, 2012, 11:45:30 AM
Thanks for your input. I had a Remington but someone wanted it more than me...so now I must find a replacement.
Well then... You would really like the Extreme :tup:
Post by: WonkyWapiti on June 12, 2012, 09:42:38 PM
Post by: ribka on June 13, 2012, 09:08:41 PM
have knight, tc and cva. Not too impressed with the cva
everyone always talks crap about traditions vorteks but I love them, My wife, father, and I all have one and have never once had a mis fire. keep them clean and change the musket breech out for a number 11 and you'll never have a problem.I have owned cva, traditions, winchester. They are all made by the same company and they are not made in the usa. They are built cheap and feel cheap when you are holding one. To each there own. If you go with the knight you will not have to end up buying two or three until you find the one you finally like. just my :twocents:
Accurate out to 200 yards, dropped my bull at 150 yards last year no problem.
Post by: jbender on June 14, 2012, 02:26:04 PM
Post by: Jellymon on June 14, 2012, 04:03:09 PM
Post by: Whitelightning on June 17, 2012, 01:24:30 PM
Post by: ing on June 17, 2012, 02:10:35 PM
Post by: wackum on June 19, 2012, 12:04:49 PM
I have also read numerous posts about the Traditions Vortek being garbage but I love mine. Mosts of the posts against this muzzy seems to be that they had a tendency to go off when you would shut the breach. When I called the company because I had a friend that also had one but had the NW edition (#11 cap) vs. my NW Magnum Edition (musket cap) and he wanted to switch the plug over to a musket cap. The company adimately pleeded for him not to do this because even though the threads are the same and they look the same there is evidently a 300th of an inch difference in the length and they are not interchangable. This is why they have been going off. I am a guy and by nature I am normally against reading the instructions but they clearly state in the instructions when you buy this gun that they shoot only the type of cap that comes with the gun. If you buy the NW Magnum edition I don't think you can go wrong. I am a Knight fan as well but I like the feel of this gun and the ease of cleaning that if presents. I have been shooting a 300 grain powerbelt pushed by 100 grain Pirodex pellets and have had great accuracy. :hello::yeah:
Post by: Chesapeake on June 20, 2012, 05:17:57 PM
Curently run a Knight Wolverine with a thumbhole stock. I've had it for years and dont have any plans to change. I've got the regular stock for it as well.
It took me alot of years to finaly get to Knight. Felt pretty dumb about it too since for the entire time my father in law hunted right beside me with an original Bighorn. I borrowed it for a late season cow hunt after my TC Hawken stock couldnt handle the swelling from being rain soaked for days on end. I shot my cow with it. Then promptly went and bought my own.
Slow learner I guess!!
Post by: Skillet on June 20, 2012, 05:55:18 PM
Post by: dvolmer on June 25, 2012, 11:22:56 PM