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Community => Photo & Video => Topic started by: david0 on June 10, 2012, 07:44:54 PM

Title: HDR?
Post by: david0 on June 10, 2012, 07:44:54 PM: Does anybody else play around with HDR? Im just starting to do them a little bit. I need more practice.
Title: Re: HDR?
Post by: popeshawnpaul on June 11, 2012, 10:32:31 AM: Yes. They are kind of a pain in the butt to do but I do them. They work best for certain types of images but I find the new lightroom 4 does a really good job on dynamic range issues in terms of getting details in the shadows and controlling the highs. This way I don't need to mess with HDR. You can get crazy with it though and it's best to use it in control so it's hard to tell you used it. That being said, many people say they look fake. I think they look more real because your eye can see the detail. It doesn't look like what we think a picture should given how we've seen images growing up so we dismiss them as fake but in reality they are more like the vast dynamic range our eye enjoys. I even did HDR on a bedded buck once. Unless there is extreme dynamic range, I rarely shoot HDR anymore and only with landscapes.

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Title: Re: HDR?
Post by: huntnphool on June 11, 2012, 11:02:35 AM: I bracket shots at times too.
Title: Re: HDR?
Post by: Alchase on June 11, 2012, 02:12:01 PM: WOW!
Those are awesome.
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Post by: SkookumHntr on June 11, 2012, 02:45:23 PM: WoW!!
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Post by: Alchase on June 11, 2012, 04:53:17 PM: Could someone explain this process?
Those are incredible shots!
Title: Re: HDR?
Post by: huntnphool on June 11, 2012, 05:09:03 PM: Quote from: Alchase on June 11, 2012, 04:53:17 PM
Could someone explain this process?
Those are incredible shots!

Cameras aperture are set for each shot and can not capture the difference between light and dark in a single image like the human eye can. My shots are three images combined into one. I set my camera to bracket the shot on a tripod, one shot under exposed to darken the highlights, one shot neutral and one shot over exposed to lighten the shadows or dark parts. Then the three are combined to take advantage of the best part of each image.

Did you ever take a picture and wonder why parts of it look like you remember but the sky and clouds are blown out? Or got the clouds and sky exposed right except your subject is silhouetted? Bracketing takes three images, one right after the other, with exposures that help you adjust for this.

My camera is older now but a lot of the newer versions bracket more than 5 images at a time, of course you need a good post processing software to combine the images and adjust. Most people tend to "overcook" the image IMO, I try to keep them looking as natural as I can, Pope does too.
Title: Re: HDR?
Post by: Alchase on June 11, 2012, 05:12:56 PM: Awesome info thanks for the explaination.
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Post by: Alchase on June 11, 2012, 05:41:15 PM: I was looking up HDR in Lightroom, they had an example of using "one" RAW to get similar not as good as using three or five shots, but I though it would be fun to play with.
Title: Re: HDR?
Post by: d_wilson on June 13, 2012, 05:46:37 PM: I purchased an app for my iphone called Pro HDR thats fun to play with. Only problem is you have to be REALLY still to get clear pictures. (https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1154.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fp538%2Fdwilson26%2FIMG_0318.jpg&hash=5aaecd28bff6d4f3f4fce2fc7acb14bb183dda1e)
Title: Re: HDR?
Post by: d_wilson on June 13, 2012, 05:47:56 PM: (https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1154.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fp538%2Fdwilson26%2FIMG_0319.jpg&hash=e3872745e56e472b0a72146f3fc7033913fac331)
Title: Re: HDR?
Post by: d_wilson on June 13, 2012, 05:52:59 PM: (https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1154.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fp538%2Fdwilson26%2FIMG_0316.jpg&hash=0dc8b6e15e2fb823fac2cd718edf7c503cc447e2)
Title: Re: HDR?
Post by: Gringo31 on June 13, 2012, 06:17:22 PM: :bow:

I enjoy taking pictures, but you guys are in the NFL while I'm playing catch in the backyard with my son...

I am impressed and amazed.... :tup:
Title: Re: HDR?
Post by: huntnphool on June 13, 2012, 08:06:26 PM: It works great for bringing details out in clouds and for early morning or evening shots to bring out the detail in the shadows.
Title: Re: HDR?
Post by: huntnphool on June 13, 2012, 08:10:37 PM: By the way, the last pic in my first reply is of the 49* ski resort from the other side of the valley. I took this a hour before TMike shot his moose, a hint for those of you with a 49* tag this year. ;)
Title: Re: HDR?
Post by: david0 on June 13, 2012, 08:33:21 PM: How much post processing do you do? What program do you use to do the HDR merge. I tried it in photoshop and don't really like it much for the HDRs. I downloaded the trial of photomatrix and it is a little easier.
Title: Re: HDR?
Post by: huntnphool on June 14, 2012, 12:23:04 AM: Both Pope and I use Photomatix Pro but I use CS4 for my tweeking where he uses Lightroom. The key is shooting RAW, you get a much better final product. :twocents:
Title: Re: HDR?
Post by: rosscrazyelk on June 17, 2012, 01:18:47 PM: Whwn are we going on my feold traing Phool?
Title: Re: HDR?
Post by: huntnphool on June 17, 2012, 08:31:32 PM: Quote from: rosscrazyelk on June 17, 2012, 01:18:47 PM
Whwn are we going on my feold traing Phool?
anytime Ross
Title: Re: HDR?
Post by: timberghost72 on June 18, 2012, 08:45:02 PM: Those are some awesome photographs phool.

Quote from: huntnphool on June 17, 2012, 08:31:32 PM
Quote from: rosscrazyelk on June 17, 2012, 01:18:47 PM
Whwn are we going on my feold traing Phool?
anytime Ross

A Hunt-Wa photog field trip with a couple of the pros with a few amatures :tup:
Title: Re: HDR?
Post by: huntnphool on June 18, 2012, 08:49:13 PM: Quote from: timberghost72 on June 18, 2012, 08:45:02 PM
Those are some awesome photographs phool.

Quote from: huntnphool on June 17, 2012, 08:31:32 PM
Quote from: rosscrazyelk on June 17, 2012, 01:18:47 PM
Whwn are we going on my feold traing Phool?
anytime Ross

A Hunt-Wa photog field trip with a couple of the pros with a few amatures :tup:

Thanks TimberG, I would love to get some of the pro's out there for a shoot too, I learn a lot more in a day shooting with guys like Pope than a year of reading books.
Title: Re: HDR?
Post by: timberghost72 on June 18, 2012, 09:12:15 PM: You're right up there with Pope and others IMO. I always enjoy looking at your guys's pics here and the other site. Learn alot just by looking at those pics. I've read a ton of books in the last 6 months (enough to make me more confused then when I started :chuckle:) and I bet shooting with someone more experienced would be a great learning experience. I just received my 60D the other day and put my 17-55 2.8 on it and wow. I love it.
Title: Re: HDR?
Post by: huntnphool on June 18, 2012, 09:20:09 PM: Well thats a nice lens for sure :tup:
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Post by: toothfangclaw on June 19, 2012, 11:49:30 PM: I took some for the first time with my camera phone. (https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.tapatalk.com%2F322ea9e5-71ef-5886.jpg&hash=c46cd33cf1a4eec5bc999328cea33cc93dec24f3)

Stupid finger lol
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