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Title: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: BULLBLASTER on June 11, 2012, 01:16:18 PM: I didn't draw any tags.and live in Spokane. Can anyone tell me where I can go and for sure get a general rifle season elk on the westside?
I heard c post and NWT are good but can't find them on gohunt..

Thanks! :tung:
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: h20hunter on June 11, 2012, 01:18:14 PM: Sounds like you are on the right trek..........track.........already. Stand by for a PM.....cougle guys took me elk hunting last year. I took a bunch of shots, don't think I ever connected. Some great area though. I'm sure they won't mind me sharing.
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: BULLBLASTER on June 11, 2012, 01:20:46 PM: Awesome h20! It will only be me and my hunting partner... and he sometimes invites a Guy or 2 with also... :chuckle:
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: h20hunter on June 11, 2012, 01:25:13 PM: Sounds good. I'm not to worried if you bring some guys along. I also noticed some good spots to run quads so keep that in mind. I've always wanted to hunt 'em on a quad in the back country.
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: D-Rock425 on June 11, 2012, 01:34:22 PM: Looks like you guys already know all my secret spots.
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: BULLBLASTER on June 11, 2012, 01:39:30 PM: Everyone tells me weyerhauser is the best place for some backcountry quad huntng! I'm gonna check it out.
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: Rainier10 on June 11, 2012, 02:02:50 PM: Now you are on track. Somebody must have sent you a PM :tup: When you get to the gate that says no motorized vehicles unload your quad and drive around the gate. If you pass anybody walking speed up and get past them, they were probably taking a break from running and if you don't hurry past they will start running again and beat you to the spot where all the shooting happens. You will know the spot when you get there because of all the shell casings in the road. The other nice thing about the Weyerhauser spot is you can get some good backcounty hunting in and dump your trash as well. Weyerhauser has a crew of guys that aren't busy "back country hunting" that will come behind you and dispose of it properly.
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: Broken Arrow on June 11, 2012, 02:07:02 PM: I have been hunting for 3 years and have called in numerous elk for people, I'm pretty much an expert caller and know that area well. PM sent....... :chuckle:
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: Rainier10 on June 11, 2012, 02:11:26 PM: Dang it! I thought I sent you a PM, now everybody knows about driving around the gate.
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: h20hunter on June 11, 2012, 02:12:15 PM: I once saw an elk called in on the television. I too will send a PM.....
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: BULLBLASTER on June 11, 2012, 02:26:31 PM: Thqnks for the pms guys.
I have called in 3 bulls since I was 12... I really think I already know all there is.about calling elk so don't try and tell me about calling!

My quad should get me to some really remote logging roads. Way farther than the runners can make it. Do you think I need to shut my.ATV off before calling in giant bulls?
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: Woodchuck on June 11, 2012, 02:38:53 PM: Shoot man leave it run, that way the handwarmers will stay hot. :tup:
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: Rainier10 on June 11, 2012, 02:40:19 PM: It sounds like you are really experienced so I will just confirm what you probably already know, those elk are used to logging trucks all them time so calling while your quad is running is not a problem, the elk don't wait for the logging trucks to pass before bugling so if you turned your quad off that would be a red flag to them. The other benefit as you know to keeping your quad running is you can move to the next spot quicker and get more "back country hunting" in than those oldschool boot hunters are getting. Honestly you are getting more hunting experience for your money if you just slow down going around the landings and calling as you keep moving. You don't want to waste you time on a bull that takes more than a few seconds to respond. :chuckle:
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: bucksandbulls on June 11, 2012, 02:45:54 PM: oh nan thats easy.... plan on hunting sept 15 thru the 31st. i would check the queets corridor. and then the quinalt area along the river . up into the park of course. but anywhere where the olympic national park meets a river corridor is great... i would start growing your pony tail now though .and use a high powered rife .dont forget to go to the local bar and find a loser white guy and hire him for 20 bucks to pack out your backstraps and antlers . leave the rest for brother coyote..... good luck.
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: Lightning_Rider on June 11, 2012, 03:06:44 PM: Screw the national parks...stay over on the eastside and try get one of those monsters on the Yakima Indian Reservation! Or better yet, try one of the feeding stations, they're already baited :chuckle:
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: Rainier10 on June 11, 2012, 04:11:58 PM: Is this thread turning into native bashing? If so who had 13 for the number of posts before it turned to native bashing? Come on guys..Bullblaster the master elk caller was on his way to C-post to do some back country quad hunting, let's keep him on track.
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: h20hunter on June 11, 2012, 04:16:23 PM: I didn't read it that way..............don't get to into it.....not a shred of serious intent so far in this thread.
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: Woodchuck on June 11, 2012, 04:19:57 PM: I was serious, if you turn a 4-wheeler off the grips will get cold in no time.
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: Rainier10 on June 11, 2012, 04:24:01 PM: Perfect I was hoping not. This bullblaster guy has really done his research and has all the right answers I want to make sure he gets into the possible position to take the most shots he can with as little work as possible, he has already put in so much effort. It is obvious that we are just clarifying what he already knows. :tup:
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: h20hunter on June 11, 2012, 04:26:21 PM: Thats more like it! Way to be supportive.
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: Rainier10 on June 11, 2012, 04:30:25 PM: Hopefully somebody else can chime in with some knowledge of westside elk hunting that Bullblaster doesn't already have, and I hope it is on this thread so the whole world can see it instead of some limited PM that will only be seen by Bullblaster and forwarded to 20 of his closest friends.
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: 724wd on June 11, 2012, 04:49:12 PM: Quote from: Woodchuck on June 11, 2012, 04:19:57 PM
I was serious, if you turn a 4-wheeler off the grips will get cold in no time.

boy, that's NO JOKE! :yike: :bdid: if only my four wheeler had foot heaters and a windshield... and doors and a cup holderandaradioanda350v8withautomatictransmissionand35inchtires.... :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: WOOHOO!!!!!
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: buckfvr on June 11, 2012, 04:54:47 PM: I would focus on Mt. Rainier National Park until the snow gets too deep for your snow machine.......
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: Rainier10 on June 11, 2012, 04:56:14 PM: Oh my 4 wheeler has all that stuff but it is painted white, I need to camoflague it because I don't ever see anything from the logging road landings I park on and call from. I figure the elk must see me or something. With the 35" tires it is tough to get in and out of but it has power windows so I just roll those down to do my best calling and throw my pop cans out of.
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: hunterofelk on June 11, 2012, 05:01:16 PM: PM 724wd. He knows how to draw:)
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: halflife65 on June 11, 2012, 05:26:48 PM: After my buddy showed me his great spot I brought a couple of my cousins and a couple of their buddies and now we all bring our dads along. It's like a biker gang with camo and quads. There's about 20 of us now - it was so lonely before when just my (ex)buddy knew about it. He got all bent out of shape about everyone coming up there but I think he was just jealous he didn't think of it first.

My cousin just topped his .30-.30 with a new 4x Tasco, so I'm really looking forward to doing some long range hunting. It's an awesome gun and after you work the lever a couple of times to knock the rust back a little you can sort of tell what a smooth action it has.

Anyway, long before they closed the gates someone dropped off an old fridge and some other appliances, so we bring along lots of extra ammo. After about 10am it gets pretty boring if you haven't seen anything from the back of the quad so we start hammering away at someone's old kitchen. It's awesome and, since most guys haven't shot their guns since the previous year, it's a great way to sight in and make sure you can hit a pie plate at 50 yards.

Anyway, I'll send you a pm - it's really a great place to elk hunt.
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: fair-chase on June 11, 2012, 05:39:38 PM: Quote from: Rainier10 on June 11, 2012, 04:56:14 PM
Oh my 4 wheeler has all that stuff but it is painted white, I need to camoflague it because I don't ever see anything from the logging road landings I park on and call from. I figure the elk must see me or something. With the 35" tires it is tough to get in and out of but it has power windows so I just roll those down to do my best calling and throw my pop cans out of.

Not to offend Rainier, but I think I found the problem with your setup that is hindering your success. You see real hunters don't throw pop cans out the window (elk don't like pop, it has too much sugar). Elk like bottom of the rack beer cans. Especially if it has the words "light" or "ice" on the label (if you can get both those words on the same can it's like a super attractant). Also, "man" cans spread the attractant farther due to the sheer volume, and the larger opening allows them to work better in the wind. Plus anything referred to as a "man" can must be for serious hardcore men and thus would attract/lure testosterone filled elk into a battle royal to prove their manhood. Good luck and happy hunting.
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: seth30 on June 11, 2012, 05:48:07 PM: Wow, this thread is a fountain of information! Thanks to the thread here I know that I will not only kill a big bull, but I can dump my trash, and ride a quad at the same tim :tup: Is there any wolves on the wet side as well? I would really love to see them on my quad as Im finsihing up my 12 pack of PBR :drool:
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: Rainier10 on June 11, 2012, 06:15:52 PM: Thanks Fair-chase, no offense taken, I appreciate the insight into my shortcomings. That is what is great about this sight you can learn something from everyone. Here I am just trying to help a guy that really already knows all there is to know and I learn something myself. I am off to the store to pick up some Busch lite draft ice beer in the 20oz. cans.
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: BULLBLASTER on June 11, 2012, 06:42:30 PM: i think the next step is to decide what gun i should use for said elk hunting. i do have a lever 30-30, but it isnt rusted out yet. should i put it outside and get it seasoned up until november?
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: Rainier10 on June 11, 2012, 06:48:43 PM: I only went rifle hunting one year in 95 or 96 then I switched to archery. I couldn't handle the gun kicking on the 32 shots I took. It was more expensive to by 36 arrows a season but it is way quiter and there is no kick. I still have the gun, I didn't clean it when I was done for the year and it has been sitting in my leaky shed since I got married in 98. I will loan it to you if you want, I think I even have a couple of shells left, the brass is green but they should still work come November. :tup:
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: CAMPMEAT on June 11, 2012, 07:11:15 PM: You guys really are giving some bad advice. Of all 101 bulls I've called in in my 4 years of hunting, I use 4-6'" rip rap to kill them. I sit in a tree with scent killer sprayed all over my shorts ( farts smell ) and wait. Then I jump on their backs when they are rubbing their antlers against the branches and beat them to death with a rock.........I heard the Kapowsin Tavern is a good place to get info if you buy the locals beers.
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: pips4bucks on June 11, 2012, 07:27:37 PM: Quote from: BULLBLASTER on June 11, 2012, 01:39:30 PM
Everyone tells me weyerhauser is the best place for some backcountry quad huntng! I'm gonna check it out.

Don't forget about the Hancock spot too! The Hancock guys are great! They really wave a lot when you cruise by them on your quad. Friendly bunch of guys. There's plenty of little pull off spots there too where you can sight in your bow before you get to the honey hole! I love Hancock!

Oh wait, that didn't sound right.... :chuckle:
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: Rainier10 on June 11, 2012, 07:32:25 PM: Quote from: CAMPMEAT on June 11, 2012, 07:11:15 PM
You guys really are giving some bad advice. Of all 101 bulls I've called in in my 4 years of hunting, I use 4-6'" rip rap to kill them. I sit in a tree with scent killer sprayed all over my shorts ( farts smell ) and wait. Then I jump on their backs when they are rubbing their antlers against the branches and beat them to death with a rock.........I heard the Kapowsin Tavern is a good place to get info if you buy the locals beers.
I love it a 4-6" rock now you are talking. After we get this weapon thing ironed out we can start talking about practice and how you don't need to do it. Practice never killed anything, getting lead in the air does and that is the real key get out in that backcountry quad honeyhole past all of those old school boot hunters and start getting some shots into a herd or running elk. If you are any kind of a shot they will drop in their tracks, if they don't you better shoot again.
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: ellensburgpo on June 11, 2012, 08:43:01 PM: Just stumbled onto this post, nice of you to post all this info, but I only listen to guys who know what they're talking about...
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: ribka on June 11, 2012, 09:08:24 PM: planning on video taping my early archery season true spike hunt here on the e side I need an expert caller to help me bring in a big un in the 90degree heat and the scorching sun. I'll give you a 20 per cent reduction in price when I sell my video for as a reward for your expert calling if we manage to get one.

Oh and i drive a Prius so could you bring your truck for the hunt. need a 4x4 to get into those true spike areas. :tup:

Quote from: BULLBLASTER on June 11, 2012, 02:26:31 PM
Thqnks for the pms guys.
I have called in 3 bulls since I was 12... I really think I already know all there is.about calling elk so don't try and tell me about calling!

My quad should get me to some really remote logging roads. Way farther than the runners can make it. Do you think I need to shut my.ATV off before calling in giant bulls?
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: ribka on June 11, 2012, 09:11:38 PM: oh and don't forget the booze. I like Pendleton.
And please don't forget to put a sofa in back of your truck. I like to sit back there when archery road hunting when I take my 90 yd shots at running elk.
:tup: :tup:
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: RadSav on June 11, 2012, 09:12:25 PM: Quote from: ellensburgpo on June 11, 2012, 08:43:01 PM
Just stumbled onto this post, nice of you to post all this info, but I only listen to guys who know what they're talking about...

You're right! These guys don't know what they are talking about. I was a guide 25 years ago so I know.

Anybody that really knows would never rush past other hunters cause the best time to hunt is after the other hunters have left the area. I agree with the big cans of beer, but you drink that first while you are waiting for some real good darkness to settle in. I think the best times are between 1 and 3A.M. though I have seen plenty of animals all the way up till 4:30 (just before all the traffic starts up again). That's me you usually see coming out of the woods as all the less experienced hunters are headed in. Yeah, that's me with the six aircraft landing lights mounted to the rusty roll bar. Screw spot lights! Those are too much work. Too bad this state does not allow lazer sights. I could have killed another six or seven bulls last year if I had one of those on my 30-30.
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: benhuntin on June 11, 2012, 09:13:31 PM: Quote from: ribka on June 11, 2012, 09:11:38 PM
oh and don't forget the booze. I like Pendleton.
And please don't forget to put a sofa in back of your truck. I like to sit back there when archery road hunting when I take my 90 yd shots at running elk.
:tup: :tup:
Come on Ribka your good out past 90 yrds for sure :chuckle:
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: JimmyHoffa on June 11, 2012, 09:15:14 PM: Oh man, all the points one could rack up if watching some of you fellers. :P
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: ribka on June 11, 2012, 09:20:53 PM: Quote from: benhuntin on June 11, 2012, 09:13:31 PM
Quote from: ribka on June 11, 2012, 09:11:38 PM
oh and don't forget the booze. I like Pendleton.
And please don't forget to put a sofa in back of your truck. I like to sit back there when archery road hunting when I take my 90 yd shots at running elk.
:tup: :tup:
Come on Ribka your good out past 90 yrds for sure :chuckle:

i am but after i bought a wheel bow at walmart last week and switched to archery this year i thought i should be an ethical hunter and keep my archery shots under 100 yds at least for early season. I hate people that shoot beyond their range. Don't want to be a hypocrite. :twocents: :twocents:
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: RadSav on June 11, 2012, 09:36:15 PM: I didn't want to give all my secrets out, but since others have let the archery cat out of the bag I might as well. Archery is an especially good way to go. That way you can shoot your animal right out of someones front yard while they are sleeping. You need to make sure you buy those cheap broadheads. They are good and dull. That way your animal will not die in their yard, but will run away into the woods. Plus if you find him the next day everyone will think you were hunting during daylight and your secret methods will be protected.
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: dreamunelk on June 11, 2012, 09:46:49 PM: NWT is a sure thing! Just google them. You can ride around on the bus and take the one you want.
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: fillthefreezer on June 11, 2012, 09:47:29 PM: Quote from: CAMPMEAT on June 11, 2012, 07:11:15 PM
You guys really are giving some bad advice. Of all 101 bulls I've called in in my 4 years of hunting, I use 4-6'" rip rap to kill them. I sit in a tree with scent killer sprayed all over my shorts ( farts smell ) and wait. Then I jump on their backs when they are rubbing their antlers against the branches and beat them to death with a rock.........I heard the Kapowsin Tavern is a good place to get info if you buy the locals beers.
whoa whoa whoa, just got real in here, nobody is gonna be trashin my favorite water in hole within stumbling distance... :bdid:
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: dscubame on June 11, 2012, 09:53:11 PM: With all this archery advice being given I suppose I will let you true archers in on one of my closest tips... Tape a flashlight to your bow it helps when the sun just goes down in those low light situations.
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: RadSav on June 11, 2012, 09:56:57 PM: Quote from: dscubame on June 11, 2012, 09:53:11 PM
With all this archery advice being given I suppose I will let you true archers in on one of my closest tips... Tape a flashlight to your bow it helps when the sun just goes down in those low light situations.

I heard of that years ago when I was hunting West Virginia. The locals called that "Shadow Shooting". They swear by it.
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: shoot-em-dead on June 11, 2012, 09:59:21 PM: cmon guys- flashlights are too heavy, besides- four wheelers have headlights for a reason.
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: RB on June 11, 2012, 10:01:06 PM: Dang this is the best! Now I know where I have been going wrong all these years. I can see what I need to do

First I need a good beat up 4x4 truck with a huge light bar and winches on either end and a sliding rear window to be able to pass "Man" beers back and forth to my other fellow "Back-country" hunters while they rest their weary bones from riding their quads in from the gate.

Next I need to choose a weapon and that old 30-30 sounds mighty fine, but that new Wal-mart Bow is real purty! I would like to try the rip-rap two it would be nice to have some cent blocker especially when uncle Eddie has been eat'n chilly

Last but not least I need to hit the local Tavern and other websites to gather the info for the best guarenteed spots cause I want to fill the freezer this year
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: ribka on June 11, 2012, 10:15:32 PM: Quote from: dscubame on June 11, 2012, 09:53:11 PM
With all this archery advice being given I suppose I will let you true archers in on one of my closest tips... Tape a flashlight to your bow it helps when the sun just goes down in those low light situations.

For some reason my expandle broadheads do not shoot well when I taped a mag light to my bow. maybe the flash light is torquing the bow?

Any feedback?
Title: Re: i didjt draw any tags but need a sure thing westside elk spot!
Post by: SemperFidelis97 on June 11, 2012, 10:34:32 PM: I got real creative, and welded my 200 lumen surefire to a bolt that just so happens to thread right into the same spot as I used to have that pesky stabilizer, problem solved. I even took it one step further, and ran the pressure switch to the grip so I can activate the light without interrupting my shot. Which tag is Oak Creek anyways I hear thats a great spot.