Post by: 400out on June 17, 2012, 09:40:51 AM
Post by: blackveltbowhunter on June 17, 2012, 09:42:33 AM
Post by: cem3434 on June 17, 2012, 09:46:34 AM
Not sure about requirement, but I can say without a doubt I would take all I could :tup: Its delicious!!
:yeah: If you have never had cougar, you should try it. Its very good and is almost like pork.
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on June 17, 2012, 09:50:57 AM
Post by: 400out on June 17, 2012, 10:00:09 AM
Post by: Hunterman on June 17, 2012, 10:09:26 AM
Hunterman(Tony)
Post by: bobcat on June 17, 2012, 10:22:31 AM
Post by: billythekidrock on June 17, 2012, 10:57:00 AM
I know you're not required by law to take out the meat of a cougar. That is a good question though, one I had never thought of. I would guess you'd at least have to bring out the head. Eating cat meat isn't high on my list of things I'd like to do, so I'd just as soon leave the meat there for the bears, coyotes, etc.What? Call me and I will take it.
Post by: bobcat on June 17, 2012, 11:07:54 AM
I know you're not required by law to take out the meat of a cougar. That is a good question though, one I had never thought of. I would guess you'd at least have to bring out the head. Eating cat meat isn't high on my list of things I'd like to do, so I'd just as soon leave the meat there for the bears, coyotes, etc.What? Call me and I will take it.
I was only talking about if the circumstances are such that it's a great deal of work to get it out, as in the original post. If I can get a cougar out whole I would do it and I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to find people who would want the meat.
If it's a 5 mile pack, I'll call you, and you can pack it out. How's that? :chuckle:
Post by: Crowns on June 17, 2012, 11:21:00 AM
Post by: 400out on June 17, 2012, 12:10:10 PM
Post by: 3nails on June 17, 2012, 01:02:35 PM
I'm sure you mean well by your question. But I couldn't help but be irritated a little by your hypothetical question. I shot one a couple years ago, they are delicious. Better than venison in my opinion. On top of this, it does have a niche in the ecosystem. I just don't feel like any game animal should be harvested in vein. Don't pull the trigger if you can't pack it out. Just my opinion.So........................you ever shot a coyote? Did you eat it?
Post by: bobcat on June 17, 2012, 01:03:27 PM
Post by: bearpaw on June 17, 2012, 01:12:22 PM
However, many people like it, even if you don't like it, a friend likley will. It's easy to take off both rear hams, both backstraps, and the front shoulders and you have most of the meat for someone to enjoy. :twocents:
Post by: xXLojackXx on June 17, 2012, 10:07:50 PM
Post by: Crowns on June 18, 2012, 04:34:02 PM
I'm sure you mean well by your question. But I couldn't help but be irritated a little by your hypothetical question. I shot one a couple years ago, they are delicious. Better than venison in my opinion. On top of this, it does have a niche in the ecosystem. I just don't feel like any game animal should be harvested in vein. Don't pull the trigger if you can't pack it out. Just my opinion.So........................you ever shot a coyote? Did you eat it?
No I have never ate a coyote I've shot. Predators have to be managed just as well as their prey. I don't deny that. Our wildlife is so heavily human impacted that it can't support the natural checks and balances of predator/prey relationships. So I do my part to try and keep things to a balance just like any other outdoorsman. Mountain lions need to be managed too. But its very edible so why kill one in vein, just to leave its meat. Someone more appreciative of the animal could harvest it in the future. Or it could just succumb to old age after fulfilling its life cycle. Again just my 2 cents and this is how I was raised.
Post by: Rainier10 on June 18, 2012, 05:06:17 PM
Post by: buckfvr on June 18, 2012, 05:19:15 PM
ANd if any of you eat humpy or chum salmon, Id think theres nothing in the whole world youd pass on. Keep the rotted fish and give me the cougar. :twocents:
Post by: 400out on June 18, 2012, 06:38:34 PM
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on June 18, 2012, 07:03:28 PM
So some of you dont think youve eaten cat of some sort ?????? Ever eat teriyaki bowls or the like ???? Id bet most of us older guys have had cat a time or two with out knowing.......Thats where most of the city cats end up :dunno: :chuckle: :chuckle: :chuckle:
ANd if any of you eat humpy or chum salmon, Id think theres nothing in the whole world youd pass on. Keep the rotted fish and give me the cougar. :twocents:
Post by: 400out on June 19, 2012, 04:38:35 AM
Post by: Doc Sauce on August 05, 2012, 04:11:18 AM
Post by: grundy53 on August 05, 2012, 05:06:48 AM
Post by: MADMAX on August 05, 2012, 06:36:53 AM
delicious
Post by: threedwizard on August 05, 2012, 07:22:26 AM
Post by: bucklucky on August 05, 2012, 09:04:55 AM
http://www.flipseekpubs.com/publication/?i=84750 (http://www.flipseekpubs.com/publication/?i=84750)
Post by: Todd_ID on August 05, 2012, 09:30:05 AM
I will pack a bear out because it's required. I would not pack the hide out; that's 4 days lost instead of 2. I would shoot both to help the deer and elk population.
Post by: DBHAWTHORNE on August 05, 2012, 09:50:03 AM
Post by: blacktailcody on August 05, 2012, 09:52:14 AM
Post by: runamuk on August 05, 2012, 10:00:29 AM
I'm sure you mean well by your question. But I couldn't help but be irritated a little by your hypothetical question. I shot one a couple years ago, they are delicious. Better than venison in my opinion. On top of this, it does have a niche in the ecosystem. I just don't feel like any game animal should be harvested in vein. Don't pull the trigger if you can't pack it out. Just my opinion.
admittedly my own instinct is the same however this same idea can be applied to all creatures we can shoot, thus crows, coyotes, and coons should also all be treated in this manner if we are to apply this broad brush of ethics. :dunno: :dunno:
that said I am not completely sure what the wastage rules are with regard to cougar, I have had it and it was a lot like pork that same day I had deer that tasted like gamey grossness :dunno: so in that vein under those circumstances based on how the deer tasted it shoulda been left behind :chuckle:
Post by: Special T on August 05, 2012, 11:15:25 AM
Post by: cmiller85 on August 05, 2012, 11:27:29 AM
Since I know where he's hoping to harvest this mythical critter, then I feel compelled to provide my :twocents: . I would shoot one there in a NY second. I would not pack out the meat or hide. You lose 2 days of hunting your targeted species which we spend all year thinking and dreaming about on here. Our seasons are short; cougar is good; it's not good enough to lose 2 days.
Don't forget about hide sealing requirements. :tup:
Post by: dongill on August 06, 2012, 09:21:05 PM
I'm sure you mean well by your question. But I couldn't help but be irritated a little by your hypothetical question. I shot one a couple years ago, they are delicious. Better than venison in my opinion. On top of this, it does have a niche in the ecosystem. I just don't feel like any game animal should be harvested in vein. Don't pull the trigger if you can't pack it out. Just my opinion.
:yeah:
Post by: threedwizard on August 06, 2012, 09:44:32 PM
Post by: bearpaw on August 06, 2012, 11:13:43 PM
Actually in Colorado you have to take cougar meat , its the law. Here is a link , then go to page 6 and under "special regulations" go to #7 and it clearly states : All edible part of the cougar must be prepared for human consumption.
http://www.flipseekpubs.com/publication/?i=84750 (http://www.flipseekpubs.com/publication/?i=84750)
Glad you posted, I didn't know that, I stand corrected. Just goes to show that you can learn something new everyday. :chuckle:
Post by: snowshoes22 on August 06, 2012, 11:26:16 PM
Post by: bucklucky on August 07, 2012, 08:11:32 AM
Actually in Colorado you have to take cougar meat , its the law. Here is a link , then go to page 6 and under "special regulations" go to #7 and it clearly states : All edible part of the cougar must be prepared for human consumption.
http://www.flipseekpubs.com/publication/?i=84750 (http://www.flipseekpubs.com/publication/?i=84750)
Glad you posted, I didn't know that, I stand corrected. Just goes to show that you can learn something new everyday. :chuckle:
:tup: :chuckle:
Post by: grundy53 on August 07, 2012, 08:26:30 AM
RCW = 77.15.170
77.15.170
Waste of fish and wildlife — Penalty.
*** CHANGE IN 2012 *** (SEE 6135-S.SL) ***
(1) A person is guilty of waste of fish and wildlife in the second degree if:
(a) The person kills, takes, or possesses fish, shellfish, or wildlife and the value of the fish, shellfish, or wildlife is greater than twenty dollars but less than two hundred fifty dollars; and
(b) The person recklessly allows such fish, shellfish, or wildlife to be wasted.
(2) A person is guilty of waste of fish and wildlife in the first degree if:
(a) The person kills, takes, or possesses fish, shellfish, or wildlife having a value of two hundred fifty dollars or more or wildlife classified as big game; and
(b) The person recklessly allows such fish, shellfish, or wildlife to be wasted.
(3)(a) Waste of fish and wildlife in the second degree is a misdemeanor.
(b) Waste of fish and wildlife in the first degree is a gross misdemeanor. Upon conviction, the department shall revoke any license or tag used in the crime and shall order suspension of the person's privileges to engage in the activity in which the person committed waste of fish and wildlife in the first degree for a period of one year.
(4) It is prima facie evidence of waste if a processor purchases or engages a quantity of food fish, shellfish, or game fish that cannot be processed within sixty hours after the food fish, game fish, or shellfish are taken from the water, unless the food fish, game fish, or shellfish are preserved in good marketable condition.
[1999 c 258 § 5; 1998 c 190 § 21.]
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=77.15&full=true#77.15.170 (http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=77.15&full=true#77.15.170)
Post by: bearpaw on August 07, 2012, 09:10:21 AM
Bearpaw, what would you say the weight of the meat from a cougar the way you recomend dressing it out is on average?
I imagine you get about 30 to 35% of live weight.
Post by: grundy53 on August 07, 2012, 09:26:20 AM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on August 07, 2012, 10:07:34 AM
That IS the Washington state RCW...
I really should read better before relying...
Post by: grundy53 on August 07, 2012, 12:09:39 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on August 07, 2012, 12:13:16 PM
Read 2 (a) again. It says at the end " ... OR wildlife classified as big game" cougars are classified as big game.good call. I missed that the first time through. Sounds pretty cut and dry now. Cougar must not be wallowed to waste.
Thanks Grundy!
Post by: grundy53 on August 07, 2012, 12:18:23 PM
Post by: jackmaster on August 07, 2012, 12:29:49 PM
Post by: grundy53 on August 07, 2012, 12:41:39 PM
Post by: jackmaster on August 07, 2012, 02:11:47 PM
Post by: bearpaw on August 07, 2012, 02:44:29 PM
Read 2 (a) again. It says at the end " ... OR wildlife classified as big game" cougars are classified as big game.
Call and ask your regional office or local warden, unless it has recently been changed, there is an exception of that law on cougar in WA. I have asked before and was told cougar meat does not have to be recovered. Seems like it's in the phamphlet somewhere buy maybe it got dropped when cougar regs changed!
i undestand that but bear are omnivores, cats are carnivores, dont they say that you can get diseases from eating carnivores? i have heard up in alaska that guys dont have to bring out their grizzly meat do to some kind of nasty somethig in the meat, i know it aint washington and it aint a cat. :dunno:
Cougar and bear can carry trichenosis. A Montana University study found something like 17% bear and 44% of cougar tested carried trichenosis.
Post by: grundy53 on August 07, 2012, 02:55:03 PM
Read 2 (a) again. It says at the end " ... OR wildlife classified as big game" cougars are classified as big game.
Call and ask your regional office or local warden, unless it has recently been changed, there is an exception of that law on cougar in WA. I have asked before and was told cougar meat does not have to be recovered. Seems like it's in the phamphlet somewhere buy maybe it got dropped when cougar regs changed!i undestand that but bear are omnivores, cats are carnivores, dont they say that you can get diseases from eating carnivores? i have heard up in alaska that guys dont have to bring out their grizzly meat do to some kind of nasty somethig in the meat, i know it aint washington and it aint a cat. :dunno:
Cougar and bear can carry trichenosis. A Montana University study found something like 17% bear and 44% of cougar tested carried trichenosis.
Maybe someone can find the exception and post it on here. As far as calling the regional office or game warden. I bet if you called each regional office or every game warden you would get multiple answers. Until someone finds the exception in the RCW's I will Just assume that the law is what the law says. I really don't care what others do either way. I just would hate for some one to get in trouble when they thought they were actually being lawful. Especially as much as the laws regarding cougar hunting have changed so much over the last 10 years...
CAVEAT EMPTOR! ;)
Post by: grundy53 on August 07, 2012, 03:05:32 PM
2. Waste of Wildlife:
You may NOT allow game animals or game birds
you have taken to recklessly be wasted.
Post by: bobcat on August 07, 2012, 06:03:22 PM
So now I'm just wondering, when wolves become legal "big game," who is going to eat the meat? Should eating the meat be required by law?
Post by: seth30 on August 07, 2012, 06:04:51 PM
There is an exception for cougar meat. I don't know where it is in the pamphlet, or if it's even in there this year, but I'm pretty sure they didn't change the law.No worries, not sure about you bobcat but I know plenty of people from certain areas of the world that would love to eat a k9....
So now I'm just wondering, when wolves become legal "big game," who is going to eat the meat? Should eating the meat be required by law?
Post by: Bob33 on August 07, 2012, 06:36:03 PM
Post by: bearpaw on August 07, 2012, 06:44:35 PM
If wolves are required to be eaten I may have to break the law someday, just sayin.... :chuckle:
Post by: grundy53 on August 07, 2012, 06:47:02 PM
I agree with bobcat, I think it used to be in the rules, might have gotten accidentally deleted.
If wolves are required to be eaten I may have to break the law someday, just sayin.... :chuckle:
:chuckle: :chuckle: :yeah:
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on August 07, 2012, 07:19:05 PM
Post by: Bob33 on August 07, 2012, 07:29:20 PM
Post by: buckhorn2 on August 08, 2012, 07:12:12 AM
Post by: grundy53 on August 08, 2012, 07:49:03 AM
Why is there a season on cougar at all. You would think june and july with the baby deer and elk they would be in season I saw a really big one yesterday that we could have got while looking for bear. He sat cleaning himself on top of a slash pile about 2oo yars away for about 15 minutes enough time to call home to see what the season was but like pike minnow that they pay to get out of the river but yet have a season on them some things just don;t make since. I guess if they can;t figure the wolf thing out they could;nt figure cougar either.
I agree. They should be open year round. Without hounds people don't kill enough of them to make a difference anyway.
Post by: pianoman9701 on August 08, 2012, 07:54:14 AM
Why is there a season on cougar at all. You would think june and july with the baby deer and elk they would be in season I saw a really big one yesterday that we could have got while looking for bear. He sat cleaning himself on top of a slash pile about 2oo yars away for about 15 minutes enough time to call home to see what the season was but like pike minnow that they pay to get out of the river but yet have a season on them some things just don;t make since. I guess if they can;t figure the wolf thing out they could;nt figure cougar either.
I agree. They should be open year round. Without hounds people don't kill enough of them to make a difference anyway.
There may well be an open season eventually. With the strides that people like Kain have made by staying in the DFW's face about predator management, the season has been restored to it's old dates. The main reason I believe it's closed now between April 1st and Aug 31st is that if a mother with kittens is accidentally shot, the kittens have a better chance of survival in the fall. That's my guess.
Post by: buckhorn2 on August 08, 2012, 10:34:56 AM
Post by: jackmaster on August 08, 2012, 12:11:12 PM
Post by: Humptulips on August 08, 2012, 10:47:24 PM
I agree with bobcat, I think it used to be in the rules, might have gotten accidentally deleted.
If wolves are required to be eaten I may have to break the law someday, just sayin.... :chuckle:
Note that the law was changed in 2012 so what was good last year is no longer valid.
Pretty clear it is against the law to waste wildlife if (and here is the loophole if there is one) it's worth more then $20.
Also if that wolf season opens you wouldn't be wasting it by not eating it but you would have to salvage the hide if it was worth more then $20.
Nothing says wilflife has to be eaten just not wasted.
Shoot that mangy coyote, not worth $20, mangy wolf also not worth $20. Prime wolf, better skin it out.
Cougar, hide probably worth at least $20. Meat, all depends on wheather the judge thinks it's edible.
I'll take it all, Good Stuff!
Post by: bobcat on August 08, 2012, 10:49:26 PM
Post by: KFhunter on August 08, 2012, 10:50:08 PM
Said it was really good!
Post by: KFhunter on August 08, 2012, 10:52:39 PM
almost got to wack it with a big stick though, but never again.
Post by: Humptulips on August 08, 2012, 10:58:53 PM
You can't sell game meat, so I'd say it's worth nothing. Not deer meat, elk meat, or cougar meat.
May seem strange but I believe you can sell cougar meat. I'd have to do some checking to be sure.
State does set a value on big game animals though so I think the courts would go by that.
Post by: Humptulips on August 08, 2012, 11:13:23 PM
You can't sell game meat, so I'd say it's worth nothing. Not deer meat, elk meat, or cougar meat.
Found this for you.
(2) For purposes of this chapter, the value of any fish, seaweed, shellfish, or wildlife may be proved based on evidence of legal or illegal sales involving the person charged or any other person, of offers to sell or solicitation of offers to sell by the person charged or by any other person, or of any market price for the fish, seaweed, shellfish, or wildlife including market price for farm-raised game animals. The value assigned to specific fish, seaweed, shellfish, or wildlife by RCW 77.15.420 may be presumed to be the value of such fish, seaweed, shellfish, or wildlife. It is not relevant to proof of value that the person charged misrepresented that the fish, seaweed, shellfish, or wildlife was taken in compliance with law if the fish, seaweed, shellfish, or wildlife was unlawfully taken and had no lawful market value.
Post by: bobcat on August 08, 2012, 11:16:17 PM
Post by: Humptulips on August 08, 2012, 11:19:39 PM
You can't sell game meat, so I'd say it's worth nothing. Not deer meat, elk meat, or cougar meat.
May seem strange but I believe you can sell cougar meat. I'd have to do some checking to be sure.
State does set a value on big game animals though so I think the courts would go by that.
All right, I looked that up about selling cougar meat and I was wrong. Can't do it
WAC 232-12-071 Agency filings affecting this section
Buying or selling game unlawful — Game-farmed meat exception.
(1) It is unlawful to offer for sale, sell, purchase, or barter edible parts of wild animals or game birds. It is unlawful to offer for sale, sell, purchase, or barter edible parts of game fish, except pursuant to RCW 77.65.480.
(2) It is unlawful to offer for sale, sell, purchase, or barter the nonedible parts of wild animals, game birds, or game fish if:
(a) The possession, sale, selling, purchase, or barter is prohibited by federal regulations;
(b) The wild animals, game birds, or game fish were taken in violation of any law or regulation in any jurisdiction, and the seller, purchaser, or person bartering knew the animal, bird, or fish was illegally taken; or
(c) The nonedible parts are of bighorn sheep or mountain goat; bear gall bladders; claws or teeth of bear that are not permanently attached to a full bear skin or mounted bear; or velvet antlers of deer, elk, or moose; and a permit has not been granted by the department allowing for the sale, purchase, or barter of any of the animal parts listed in this subsection (2)(c).
(3) For purposes of subsection (2)(c) of this section, all of those parts are considered "nonedible" even if they are used for human consumption.
(4) Under RCW 77.15.194, it is unlawful to knowingly buy, sell, or otherwise exchange, or to offer to buy, sell, or otherwise exchange, the raw fur or carcass of a wild animal trapped in Washington with a body-gripping trap, whether or not the animal is trapped pursuant to a permit.
(5) It is unlawful to offer for sale, sell, purchase, or barter game-farm raised deer and elk, unless the following conditions have been met:
(a) Proof of the source of the game-farmed meat is maintained with the meat until the meat is consumed or exported. Qualifying proof includes sales or purchase invoices or receipts containing the following information in the English language:
(i) Name of seller or importer;
(ii) Name of the company selling the meat;
(iii) The date of sale;
(iv) The quantity of meat sold; and
(v) The species of the meat sold.
(b) The meat is imported from a U.S. licensed game farm, or a game farm in another country.
(c) The meat is boned, and only the meat is imported.
(d) The meat is packaged for retail sale prior to importation into this state.
(6) A violation of subsection (4) of this section is punishable under RCW 77.15.194. The remaining subsections in this section are punishable under RCW 77.15.260.
(7) If you request a written permit to offer for sale, sell, purchase, or barter the nonedible parts of wild animals listed in subsection (2)(c) of this section, and your request is denied, you have a right to a hearing under the provisions of chapter 34.05 RCW. In order to obtain a hearing, you must notify the department, in writing, within forty-five days of the date of the letter denying your permit. The address to send hearing requests to is:
Post by: bearpaw on August 08, 2012, 11:51:42 PM
Why is there a season on cougar at all. You would think june and july with the baby deer and elk they would be in season I saw a really big one yesterday that we could have got while looking for bear. He sat cleaning himself on top of a slash pile about 2oo yars away for about 15 minutes enough time to call home to see what the season was but like pike minnow that they pay to get out of the river but yet have a season on them some things just don;t make since. I guess if they can;t figure the wolf thing out they could;nt figure cougar either.
I agree. They should be open year round. Without hounds people don't kill enough of them to make a difference anyway.
There may well be an open season eventually. With the strides that people like Kain have made by staying in the DFW's face about predator management, the season has been restored to it's old dates. The main reason I believe it's closed now between April 1st and Aug 31st is that if a mother with kittens is accidentally shot, the kittens have a better chance of survival in the fall. That's my guess.
Kittens can be born anytime of the year. Cougar are like housecats, they can cycle anytime and kittens can be born anytime.
Quote
http://wdfw.wa.gov/living/cougars.html
• Cougars can breed year-round, but breeding is more common in winter and early spring.
Post by: bearpaw on August 08, 2012, 11:56:22 PM
Post by: grundy53 on August 09, 2012, 05:29:39 AM
I agree with bobcat, I think it used to be in the rules, might have gotten accidentally deleted.
If wolves are required to be eaten I may have to break the law someday, just sayin.... :chuckle:
Note that the law was changed in 2012 so what was good last year is no longer valid.
Pretty clear it is against the law to waste wildlife if (and here is the loophole if there is one) it's worth more then $20.
Also if that wolf season opens you wouldn't be wasting it by not eating it but you would have to salvage the hide if it was worth more then $20.
Nothing says wilflife has to be eaten just not wasted.
Shoot that mangy coyote, not worth $20, mangy wolf also not worth $20. Prime wolf, better skin it out.
Cougar, hide probably worth at least $20. Meat, all depends on wheather the judge thinks it's edible.
I'll take it all, Good Stuff!
The value is irrelevant unless the animal is not considered a big game animal. If the animal is considered a big game animal you can't allow it to go to waste.
Cougars are considered big game therefore it is illegal to let them go to waste...
RCW = 77.15.170
77.15.170
Waste of fish and wildlife — Penalty.
*** CHANGE IN 2012 *** (SEE 6135-S.SL) ***
(1) A person is guilty of waste of fish and wildlife in the second degree if:
(a) The person kills, takes, or possesses fish, shellfish, or wildlife and the value of the fish, shellfish, or wildlife is greater than twenty dollars but less than two hundred fifty dollars; and
(b) The person recklessly allows such fish, shellfish, or wildlife to be wasted.
(2) A person is guilty of waste of fish and wildlife in the first degree if:
(a) The person kills, takes, or possesses fish, shellfish, or wildlife having a value of two hundred fifty dollars or more or wildlife classified as big game; and
(b) The person recklessly allows such fish, shellfish, or wildlife to be wasted.
(3)(a) Waste of fish and wildlife in the second degree is a misdemeanor.
(b) Waste of fish and wildlife in the first degree is a gross misdemeanor. Upon conviction, the department shall revoke any license or tag used in the crime and shall order suspension of the person's privileges to engage in the activity in which the person committed waste of fish and wildlife in the first degree for a period of one year.
(4) It is prima facie evidence of waste if a processor purchases or engages a quantity of food fish, shellfish, or game fish that cannot be processed within sixty hours after the food fish, game fish, or shellfish are taken from the water, unless the food fish, game fish, or shellfish are preserved in good marketable condition.
[1999 c 258 § 5; 1998 c 190 § 21.]
http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=77.15&full=true#77.15.170 (http://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=77.15&full=true#77.15.170)
Post by: bobcat on August 09, 2012, 07:00:10 AM
Quote
The value is irrelevant unless the animal is not considered a big game animal. If the animal is considered a big game animal you can't allow it to go to waste.
That woulld depend on the definition of waste. What if cougar meat is by law considered unfit for human consumption? Then it really wouldn't be considered wasted if you left it in the woods for other animals to eat.
Post by: grundy53 on August 09, 2012, 07:59:08 AM
QuoteThe value is irrelevant unless the animal is not considered a big game animal. If the animal is considered a big game animal you can't allow it to go to waste.
That woulld depend on the definition of waste. What if cougar meat is by law considered unfit for human consumption? Then it really wouldn't be considered wasted if you left it in the woods for other animals to eat.
Find where it says that and I will concur. But at this point I have not heard that. Also I was commenting on the value of said animal not being relevant.
Post by: Bob33 on August 09, 2012, 08:22:28 AM
This is a search engine for all Washington WACs and RCWs.
Look it up for yourselves.
There is nothing in the WACs or RCWs that specifically addresses cougar meat.
"Reckless waste" of a big game animal is not legal. A cougar is a big game animal, the same as a deer, elk, or bear.
There is no definition of "reckless waste" in written law. It is up to the discretion of the enforcement officer, and ultimately the judge if a citation is taken to court.
Post by: bobcat on August 09, 2012, 06:11:48 PM
Post by: pianoman9701 on August 09, 2012, 06:57:36 PM
Why is there a season on cougar at all. You would think june and july with the baby deer and elk they would be in season I saw a really big one yesterday that we could have got while looking for bear. He sat cleaning himself on top of a slash pile about 2oo yars away for about 15 minutes enough time to call home to see what the season was but like pike minnow that they pay to get out of the river but yet have a season on them some things just don;t make since. I guess if they can;t figure the wolf thing out they could;nt figure cougar either.
I agree. They should be open year round. Without hounds people don't kill enough of them to make a difference anyway.
There may well be an open season eventually. With the strides that people like Kain have made by staying in the DFW's face about predator management, the season has been restored to it's old dates. The main reason I believe it's closed now between April 1st and Aug 31st is that if a mother with kittens is accidentally shot, the kittens have a better chance of survival in the fall. That's my guess.
Kittens can be born anytime of the year. Cougar are like housecats, they can cycle anytime and kittens can be born anytime.Quotehttp://wdfw.wa.gov/living/cougars.htmlY
• Cougars can breed year-round, but breeding is more common in winter and early spring.
I did not know that. Thank you, Bearpaw. I love learning new stuff about animals.
Post by: Blacktail Sniper on August 13, 2012, 12:29:22 PM
http://www.exoticmeatsandmore.com/lion.aspx (http://www.exoticmeatsandmore.com/lion.aspx)
:EAT:
Post by: bearpaw on August 13, 2012, 12:34:21 PM
Post by: Outdoor Guardian on August 24, 2012, 02:47:56 PM
cat chops are pretty good.... :tup:
Humptulips got it right with regard to it's illegal to sell cougar meat..............on the wastage issue, intentionally leaving a cougar to go to waste in the field would qualify (big game) .
Post by: grundy53 on August 24, 2012, 05:19:42 PM