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Title: Black Cloud?
Post by: SilkWWU on August 10, 2008, 07:12:55 PM
I bought a box of these today, 3 1/2 inch two shot.  Anyone have any experience with these shells?
Title: Re: Black Cloud?
Post by: smdave on August 10, 2008, 07:22:45 PM
I have not shot the 3 1/2's but the 3" shells worked. Both of these wads on this shot are from Black Cloud's they worked very well.
Dave

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Title: Re: Black Cloud?
Post by: SilkWWU on August 10, 2008, 07:28:30 PM
Nice, I'm stoked.  I usually go big or go home on my shell size lmao.
Title: Re: Black Cloud?
Post by: addicted on August 11, 2008, 10:27:59 AM
excellent penetration. i patterned them out of my nova and they did well. i jumped a mallard and it got about 3 feet off the water when i shot it in the back. pellets went through the breast bone where others normally stop.  worked wonders on those scoters :yeah: as well.
Title: Re: Black Cloud?
Post by: smdave on August 11, 2008, 10:30:27 AM
To bad it was addicteds girl friend (now) wife shooting that Scoter and not him.  ;)

Dave
Title: Re: Black Cloud?
Post by: Choclab on August 11, 2008, 11:13:59 AM
It's a skybusters dream, thats for sure!! You have to watch what after market choke tubes you use. Federal had a little clip about it on waterfowler tv. They say the wad wizards/patternmaster type tubes should be avoided because those kinds of tubes temporarely restrict the shot cup, releasing the shot faster, which is the opposite of what BC does. It's supposed to hold the shot together longer to help give you a tigher, more uniform pattern "down range". It doesn't pattern too well out of my extrema2, plus our shots are almost always inside 20 yards, so the stuff is useless for us.  :twocents:
Title: Re: Black Cloud?
Post by: addicted on August 11, 2008, 12:23:19 PM
hey silk. this is from when i started going duck crazy last year.  :rolleyes:  miss those days. might be some good reading if you like

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,2822.msg27721.html#msg27721
Title: Re: Black Cloud?
Post by: Bullrun on August 11, 2008, 09:03:21 PM
I used the Black Cloud ammo last year on Geese. Won't use it again. Too much of the Breast that was bloodied {Jelly}... Had to cut out and throw away too much meat. Now if the birds had been another 10 or 15 yards further out, that might not have happened. No doubt terminal performance on birds.  :twocents:
Bullrun
Title: Re: Black Cloud?
Post by: SpencerUSMC on August 11, 2008, 11:49:04 PM
plus our shots are almost always inside 20 yards, so the stuff is useless for us.  :twocents:

2 more months buddy....Can't friggin wait!
Title: Re: Black Cloud?
Post by: Choclab on August 15, 2008, 11:36:31 AM
 :IBCOOL: :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: Black Cloud?
Post by: addicted on August 15, 2008, 11:44:50 AM
 :'( :'( :'( and her i am stuck in a country where guys shave their armpits regular. you guys better get some good pics and stories up here for the less fortunate
Title: Re: Black Cloud?
Post by: Choclab on August 15, 2008, 11:47:18 AM
You bet.....gonna be lots of death and carnage this season.
Title: Re: Black Cloud?
Post by: BC CHASER on August 15, 2008, 11:55:16 AM
I'm looking at buying a case of it.  I also noticed that they have a choke tube designed for them any thoughts on this?  I think it is probably just a gimmick!
Title: Re: Black Cloud?
Post by: addicted on August 15, 2008, 11:59:45 AM
hadnt seen the choke made for it yet. googling..... :)
Title: Re: Black Cloud?
Post by: addicted on August 15, 2008, 12:04:04 PM
looks like aid to skybusters further
Title: Re: Black Cloud?
Post by: SpencerUSMC on August 15, 2008, 04:34:22 PM
I'm looking at buying a case of it.  I also noticed that they have a choke tube designed for them any thoughts on this?  I think it is probably just a gimmick!

I wouldn't go buy a case...get a box or 2 try it out, pattern it etc..  Its pretty spendy.  I'll just stick to my Winchester Xperts.   
Title: Re: Black Cloud?
Post by: BC CHASER on August 15, 2008, 04:44:56 PM
I tried shooting the Win. xperts and did not like them I got a box of hold on let me go check....................12ga 3.5 1625fps 1 1/4 bb if you want them they are yours.  I normally use feds.  I will do what you said and buy a box or two and pattern them.
Title: Re: Black Cloud?
Post by: SpencerUSMC on August 15, 2008, 10:52:04 PM
well hell I'd be glad to take them off your hands!  I just figure thats alot of money to drop on shells that you may not like or may not pattern well out of your gun!  Just trying to save you a buck or two!
Title: Re: Black Cloud?
Post by: ICEMAN on August 15, 2008, 10:57:40 PM
Yeah, you guys make more money than I do. I shoot the Expert, and the Drylok, a whole lot less cash per box.... I have been stocking up since last season....easier to pay a little each month, than to lay all that cash down come fall...
Title: Re: Black Cloud?
Post by: BC CHASER on August 15, 2008, 11:05:08 PM
90% of the time it is cheaper to buy a case.  So if you save your money until the fall and make interest on it in the long run that is the most finacially smart way to buy. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Black Cloud?
Post by: ICEMAN on August 15, 2008, 11:11:50 PM
Might be cheaper that way, but atleast this way my wife aint finding a huge ass hit on the VISA in the fall...  "Honey, look how little this is costing me!"  Besides, i keep finding steel shot at Sportsmans for 9 to 11 bucks a box... this aint too bad.... :dunno:
Title: Re: Black Cloud?
Post by: BC CHASER on August 15, 2008, 11:16:37 PM
Hey I was just being an ass.  I have only bought cases a few times myself.  i was going to split this next one with a friend.  Are you going to do the waterfowl tournament?
Title: Re: Black Cloud?
Post by: ICEMAN on August 15, 2008, 11:23:26 PM
This will be my third year duck hunting, and our first with a dog, if my buddy gets him ready... To be honest with you, I will probably not joint the tourney, but it does sound really fun.  My goal this year is to help get that dog working well, and also to get my son on a few ducks.... Cant wait!

What the heck, I will atleast pass the idea by my buddy, he does not visit this site...

Title: Re: Black Cloud?
Post by: SilkWWU on August 15, 2008, 11:25:15 PM
I hope you guys do join.  It's a free tourny just to inspire some competition during the season.  Only work that is required is posting some pictures at the end of the week! 
Title: Re: Black Cloud?
Post by: sisu on August 17, 2008, 12:29:01 PM
To bad it was addicteds girl friend (now) wife shooting that Scoter and not him.  ;)

Dave
Nice burn. hahahaha
Title: Re: Black Cloud?
Post by: quackslapper on August 18, 2008, 04:43:20 PM
I shot a couple boxes of Black Cloud last season with mixed feelings.  Did the shot put down birds stone dead.....yes.  I shot BC mostly for geese and the shots were from 15 to 40 yards. 

After shooting 2 boxes I  had less cripples, but the shot tore everything up.  When cleaning out the birds, it took me much more time to cut out and get rid of all the coagulated blood.  The shells will do  the job at putting birds down, but for me there is too much meat lost with how much damage the shot creates.
Title: Re: Black Cloud?
Post by: addicted on August 18, 2008, 09:17:16 PM
To bad it was addicteds girl friend (now) wife shooting that Scoter and not him.  ;)

Dave
Nice burn. hahahaha

thanks for bringing that up 20 posts later sisu.   thought that one slipped through most of their fingers. guess your just still just sharper than most. lol

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