Post by: Sumpnneedskillin on June 20, 2012, 09:38:04 AM
"The agency is preparing a request for the 2013-15 budget proposal that outgoing Gov. Chris Gregoire is drawing up for her successor and the next Legislature. Parks spokeswoman Virginia Painter said the commission signaled at a meeting Monday that it wants to not only cover the expected $10.5 million shortfall in revenue for the next two years, but also provide enough extra money to restore some maintenance and other services that have been cut."
Post by: PlateauNDN on June 20, 2012, 09:51:43 AM
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on June 20, 2012, 09:53:25 AM
Post by: MadHatter on June 20, 2012, 11:20:59 AM
Post by: washelkhunter on June 20, 2012, 11:30:00 AM
Post by: pianoman9701 on June 20, 2012, 11:30:28 AM
Post by: washelkhunter on June 25, 2012, 09:37:18 AM
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on June 25, 2012, 03:06:24 PM
http://www.columbian.com/news/2012/jun/24/as-charges-go-up-visits-to-state-parks-decline/ (http://www.columbian.com/news/2012/jun/24/as-charges-go-up-visits-to-state-parks-decline/)
Or this one?
http://www.columbian.com/news/2012/jun/24/washington-state-parks-shuffle-staff/ (http://www.columbian.com/news/2012/jun/24/washington-state-parks-shuffle-staff/)
Post by: oldcamper on July 12, 2012, 06:31:26 PM
Post by: 400out on July 12, 2012, 06:35:09 PM
Post by: MadHatter on July 12, 2012, 07:34:07 PM
Sent from my sniper hide...
Post by: mfswallace on July 12, 2012, 07:40:26 PM
I think the other side is that there are people, like myself who no longer go to state parks. Period. There are hundreds of county parks that are free that are just as good, and I don't have to pay for a pass. I think people are just going elsewhere.
Nothing is free it's just someone else who has to pay for it if you don't :dunno:
Post by: jrebel on July 12, 2012, 07:47:28 PM
Post by: buckfvr on July 12, 2012, 07:48:10 PM
sounds to me like someone as counting the chickens before they hatched! :bdid: How do they know it's a short fall :dunno: Just saying.....
May not be a short fall.....but they want money and they are going after it. You believe them ??? I dont....cant think of a single reason to believe any of them.
Post by: Wenatcheejay on July 12, 2012, 07:57:02 PM
I went to our local State Park and broke the law. I drove through the deserted park without a pass. There were two other lawbreakers who did not have visible passes eating lunch at a bench. It is unbelievable since a few years ago you would be hard pressed to find a parking place some days. But, I am sure that Christine knows more than I do. It's all part of the great plan to bring the economy back. With more taxes and more fees and more regulation it will work. It has to.
Post by: Wea300mag on July 12, 2012, 08:14:19 PM
Post by: Mudman on July 12, 2012, 08:25:03 PM
Post by: CAMPMEAT on July 12, 2012, 09:07:20 PM
Post by: sebek556 on July 12, 2012, 09:09:36 PM
Post by: Mudman on July 12, 2012, 09:10:15 PM
I think park users should be forced to by a hunting license just to have the privilege to see animals in the wilderness, forest service roads, hiking trails. on golf courses etc.Sounds good to me! As long as they eliminate disc. pass. :tup:
Post by: MadHatter on July 12, 2012, 09:36:20 PM
I think the other side is that there are people, like myself who no longer go to state parks. Period. There are hundreds of county parks that are free that are just as good, and I don't have to pay for a pass. I think people are just going elsewhere.
Nothing is free it's just someone else who has to pay for it if you don't :dunno:
True, its not "free" but they don't (yet) charge you for an access pass... I just flat out refuse to go to state parks anymore, and I am sure there are plenty more like me out there... I will use county parks and national forrests to recreate in...
Sent from my sniper hide...
Post by: CAMPMEAT on July 12, 2012, 09:47:59 PM
:yeah: go camp but not sure if I want every hippie running around with a license trying to vote on seasons and such...
Oh, I forgot, the mushroom eaters wouldn't be allowed to vote for anything, just like us !!!! :tup:
Post by: MtnMuley on July 12, 2012, 10:21:50 PM
Post by: Special T on July 13, 2012, 09:52:04 AM
So this is a grant fund used to improve habitat for shorelines and such It seems that the grants are to help NGO's or nonprofits make improvements. Unfortunatly some of the excemptions for the grant are being used for the express purpose for parks. IE building maint and such. :twocents:
http://wdfw.wa.gov/grants/alea/ (http://wdfw.wa.gov/grants/alea/)
http://www.rco.wa.gov/grants/alea.shtml (http://www.rco.wa.gov/grants/alea.shtml)
Ineligible Projects
• Concessionaire buildings
• Fish or wildlife production facilities
• Indoor facilities such as swimming pools, community centers, museums, interpretive and environmental centers
• Offices, shops, residences, and meeting rooms
• Operating, overhead, or incidental costs
• Routine maintenance costs
• Legally mandated clean-up or costs of required mitigation actions not associated with the approved project.
Post by: Wenatcheejay on July 14, 2012, 10:07:59 AM
Just saying...
Post by: Mudman on July 14, 2012, 10:23:12 AM
Post by: jtw on July 14, 2012, 10:26:08 AM
How much $$$ would it raise to demand that all State Public employee's and anyone wishing to park on State owned property buy a $50.00 parking pass???
Just saying...
I might be hanging myself here, but as a state employee at my office it costs $120 annually to park.
The problem with parks is that they were never a source of revenue, and now they're trying to do that with the expectation that no one will care that they now have to pay (a lot) for the same amenities they can get free elsewhere.
Post by: SCRUBS on July 14, 2012, 10:47:58 AM
When they waste the monies from the discover pass they will simply invent a great new idea of raising money to add to the rest. They will tell us how much it is needed and threaten to close parks and not maintain them blah blah. This cycle never ends. During all this they will regulate more with obscure laws and steal more of our liberty while the ignorant do-gooders rave how the new fees will make our state and parks better fo us. By this time the money from the discover pass will all be going to the states general fund and not parks and we will have never even noticed until it was too late. History repeats itself...
:yeah: :yeah: :yeah: