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Big Game Hunting => Elk Hunting => Topic started by: Bolt Action on June 21, 2012, 08:44:57 PM

Title: naselle closed gates
Post by: Bolt Action on June 21, 2012, 08:44:57 PM: went out last weekend for a little R&R and every gate in the entire 4 GMU was locked up tight as a drum. anyone know if we are even going to have access to any of the Willimas creek area this year. BTW there were alot brand new gates(new and freashly painted) that were not there before
Title: Re: naselle closed gates
Post by: washelkhunter on June 21, 2012, 08:51:24 PM: Time to get that mountain bike up and running. :tup:
Title: Re: naselle closed gates
Post by: Bolt Action on June 21, 2012, 08:53:55 PM: we did happen to see a few bulls that were in velvet, but we all know they are safe where they are at.
Title: Re: naselle closed gates
Post by: Bolt Action on June 21, 2012, 08:58:18 PM: ive done the MTn bike a few times and also had the danners re-soled a few times from some of the old gates......me and the pack board love these areas. just hope we dont lose more of them like we did last year
Title: Re: naselle closed gates
Post by: fireweed on June 23, 2012, 10:04:57 AM: Locking gates is the First step in paying for an "access permit".
Title: Re: naselle closed gates
Post by: huntnphool on June 23, 2012, 10:07:45 AM: Quote from: washelkhunter on June 21, 2012, 08:51:24 PM
Time to get that mountain bike up and running. :tup:
:yeah: (https://hunting-washington.com/smf/MGalleryItem.php?id=11530)
Title: Re: naselle closed gates
Post by: bolsen on June 23, 2012, 10:14:41 AM: Pretty sure some of the mainline gates will be open but the main spurs off of them will be locked. Some mainlines will be locked at the pavement. The nemah will probably be the first pay to access unit for hancock
Title: Re: naselle closed gates
Post by: deerhunter_98520 on June 23, 2012, 07:54:30 PM: Quote from: Bolt Action on June 21, 2012, 08:44:57 PM
went out last weekend for a little R&R and every gate in the entire 4 GMU was locked up tight as a drum. anyone know if we are even going to have access to any of the Willimas creek area this year. BTW there were alot brand new gates(new and freashly painted) that were not there before

Goodluck..hope u dont mind hiking
Title: Re: naselle closed gates
Post by: M_ray on June 23, 2012, 08:05:51 PM: I like closed gates personally! :twocents:
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Post by: TimberCutter on June 23, 2012, 08:40:26 PM: How much do you want to pay to get behind these gates. Walk in is just a start for pay to play!!!
Title: Re: naselle closed gates
Post by: bobcat on June 23, 2012, 09:09:43 PM: A few locked gates is great, gives people a place to ride a mountain bike or hike, and get away from people. But when an entire region is locked up, I don't think it's a good thing for hunters in general. It seems that it will put most of the hunting pressure within a few miles of the gates and almost none further in. I just don't see how it can be good to concentrate hunters into smaller and smaller areas. And yes, as others have said, eventually it's looking like much of these private timberland areas will be open for access only by paying a fee. Which of course will put more hunting pressure onto public lands, and those private lands that are still open to the public. Which I could even see this causing the end of general seasons so all hunting in the state will be by permit only.
Title: Re: naselle closed gates
Post by: HoofsandWings on June 23, 2012, 09:24:00 PM: Quote from: Bolt Action on June 21, 2012, 08:44:57 PM
went out last weekend for a little R&R and every gate in the entire 4 GMU was locked up tight as a drum. anyone know if we are even going to have access to any of the Willimas creek area this year. BTW there were alot brand new gates(new and freashly painted) that were not there before
Where is this area?
Title: Re: naselle closed gates
Post by: bobcat on June 23, 2012, 09:26:26 PM: Quote from: HoofsandWings on June 23, 2012, 09:24:00 PM
Quote from: Bolt Action on June 21, 2012, 08:44:57 PM
went out last weekend for a little R&R and every gate in the entire 4 GMU was locked up tight as a drum. anyone know if we are even going to have access to any of the Willimas creek area this year. BTW there were alot brand new gates(new and freashly painted) that were not there before
Where is this area?

Basically all of the Willapa Hills.
Title: Re: naselle closed gates
Post by: HoofsandWings on June 23, 2012, 09:28:31 PM: Quote from: Bolt Action on June 21, 2012, 08:58:18 PM
ive done the MTn bike a few times and also had the danners re-soled a few times from some of the old gates......me and the pack board love these areas. just hope we dont lose more of them like we did last year
Depends on how far you can walk.
Title: naselle closed gates
Post by: sirmissalot on June 24, 2012, 08:59:29 AM: Quote from: bolsen on June 23, 2012, 10:14:41 AM
Pretty sure some of the mainline gates will be open but the main spurs off of them will be locked. Some mainlines will be locked at the pavement. The nemah will probably be the first pay to access unit for hancock

Hancock? Am I missing something
Title: Re: naselle closed gates
Post by: TimberCutter on June 24, 2012, 12:28:49 PM: All Weyerhaeuser land south of the palix was sold to Hancock, So if you take a drive you will see a lot of new white gates.North river unit also has a lot of new gates. Willapa hills is almost all employee only they can drive in you can walk!!!
Title: naselle closed gates
Post by: sirmissalot on June 24, 2012, 07:18:11 PM: Wow I had no idea they sold to Hancock. Now this thread is making a lot more sense thanks for the clarification when did this happen?
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Post by: TimberCutter on June 24, 2012, 07:24:50 PM: Around last august, just took time to get the gates in.
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Post by: mazama on June 24, 2012, 08:10:19 PM: Im hoping some of those walkins push them onto the farm on the edge of hancock property,where i will be waiting.
Title: Re: naselle closed gates
Post by: AKBowman on June 24, 2012, 08:24:17 PM: Speaking of...anyone know if the rayonier land that was permit last yr in fossil creek and salmon creek will be permit again this yr?

I would guess that Hancock won't be long from access permits.
Title: Re: naselle closed gates
Post by: micdude on June 25, 2012, 01:47:39 PM: I knew it was only a matter of time till they got all those gates up: :bash: Guess I will be on a bike like everyone else; I was by their two months ago and saw that they had all those gates up. What was funny though is they had Tsunami evacuation signs pointing at looked Handcock gates, I guess they want to keep people from getting to high ground too :yike:
Title: Re: naselle closed gates
Post by: huntnphool on June 25, 2012, 02:46:12 PM: Quote from: micdude on June 25, 2012, 01:47:39 PM
I knew it was only a matter of time till they got all those gates up: :bash: Guess I will be on a bike like everyone else; I was by their two months ago and saw that they had all those gates up. What was funny though is they had Tsunami evacuation signs pointing at looked Handcock gates, I guess they want to keep people from getting to high ground too :yike:
I noticed the signs too and was wondering the same thing. I guess if you are sitting at the gate when it hits it will lift you up and over so need to leave them open.
Title: Re: naselle closed gates
Post by: mazama on June 25, 2012, 08:12:39 PM: The road next to where i hunthas sign hidden by brush, and mailbox close by makes it look like a driveway,probably keeps lot of people out.
Title: Re: naselle closed gates
Post by: meathacker on June 26, 2012, 08:51:52 AM: Quote from: AKBowman on June 24, 2012, 08:24:17 PM
Speaking of...anyone know if the rayonier land that was permit last yr in fossil creek and salmon creek will be permit again this yr?

I would guess that Hancock won't be long from access permits.

I was wondering the same thing. I have never been able to find anything on Rayoniers site about it.
Title: Re: naselle closed gates
Post by: AKBowman on June 26, 2012, 03:24:54 PM: There's info on rayoniers site about the 2011 access permits. Just google rayonier fossil creek, salmon creek access permits.

Nothing I saw said anything about 2012
Title: Re: naselle closed gates
Post by: hunter_sean08 on June 26, 2012, 07:06:30 PM: What sucks is that if they lock up the mainline gates, the prime areas in this unit will basically be sealed off from access. No one is gonna bike ten miles down the Nemah road only to have to start going up other lines that fork off of that mainline for several more miles. It's big country back in there, BIG country. These timber companies are creating problems for themselves. One of the most productive units in Western Washington for elk is about to have more elk because we can't get back in there. Hope they enjoy having their saplings decimated. Sure they could make us pay to hunt it, but the damage done to their trees as a result of the population growth won't make it worth it. I understand their concerns for property vandalism, but come on...at least let us in for the entirety of the hunting seasons. It's only a couple months of the year anyways.. These are sad days for us elk hunters indeed. :bash:
Title: Re: naselle closed gates
Post by: krout81 on July 06, 2012, 07:18:01 AM: While huting this unit for the last 13 years we had a big change last year when the gates were being put up in sept during the season. We spoke to Hancock on the 14th and they told us that the gates will be locked next year during Archery because thats what Archery hunters want. The will open the gates for rifle. Someone said the unit was deep and I will agree with you on that. You can drive 15 miles to get to a good spot on some of the roads so I guess time will tell. Let the Elk pop grow I would love to see a herd of elk rather than a group of 5 or 6 way back in there.
Title: Re: naselle closed gates
Post by: mazama on July 06, 2012, 12:29:08 PM: They have the hunter maps at cathlamet,i picked 1 up on 28 june.
Title: Re: naselle closed gates
Post by: M_ray on July 08, 2012, 07:20:18 PM: Quote
No one is gonna bike ten miles down the Nemah road only to have to start going up other lines that fork off of that mainline for several more miles.

Never say no one ;)
Title: Re: naselle closed gates
Post by: micdude on July 08, 2012, 11:17:40 PM: Quote from: M_ray on July 08, 2012, 07:20:18 PM
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No one is gonna bike ten miles down the Nemah road only to have to start going up other lines that fork off of that mainline for several more miles.

Never say no one ;)

You crazy :o
Title: Re: naselle closed gates
Post by: BowBender87 on July 09, 2012, 12:57:46 AM: Quote from: micdude on July 08, 2012, 11:17:40 PM
Quote from: M_ray on July 08, 2012, 07:20:18 PM
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No one is gonna bike ten miles down the Nemah road only to have to start going up other lines that fork off of that mainline for several more miles.

Never say no one ;)

You crazy :o

Sure a guy can go back 10-15 miles and kill an elk. I dont worry about that...its the amount of time its going to take you to get that elk to a locker in the september heat that concerns me :twocents:
Title: Re: naselle closed gates
Post by: huntnphool on July 09, 2012, 01:31:40 AM: Takes about the same amount of time as a guy hiking in a couple miles on foot. :twocents: