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Title: Sabotloader I have a question
Post by: Bigshooter on June 22, 2012, 12:01:34 PM
In a thread awhile back you posted a pic of a hooded front sight that you use with a peep sight.  My question is what is the hooded front sight called and where can I buy one?
Thanks
Title: Re: Sabotloader I have a question
Post by: Sabotloader on June 22, 2012, 01:31:27 PM
In a thread awhile back you posted a pic of a hooded front sight that you use with a peep sight.  My question is what is the hooded front sight called and where can I buy one?
Thanks

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2Fsabotloader%2FFPComposite.jpg&hash=de127770bea0b68f1b8bf0d37c22dfdc8c94d40a)

It is a Williams Fire Sight Front Hood.  They slide right on a Williams fronst sight ramp.

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/cid=0/k=williams%20sight%20hood/t=P/ksubmit=y/Products/All/search=williams%20sight%20hood (http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/cid=0/k=williams%20sight%20hood/t=P/ksubmit=y/Products/All/search=williams%20sight%20hood)

Hope this helps..



Title: Re: Sabotloader I have a question
Post by: Bigshooter on June 22, 2012, 01:35:33 PM
Thank you.  That is what I was looking for.
Title: Re: Sabotloader I have a question
Post by: Bigshooter on June 22, 2012, 01:39:21 PM
One more question.  Do you know what ramp I will need for my knight bighorn?
Also I have the same peep as you do.
Thanks
Title: Re: Sabotloader I have a question
Post by: Bigshooter on June 22, 2012, 01:51:16 PM
Also which one of these will I need? 
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=16338/Product/RIFLE-FIRE-SIGHTS (http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=16338/Product/RIFLE-FIRE-SIGHTS)

I'm having a heck of a time figuring this out.
Title: Re: Sabotloader I have a question
Post by: jbeaumont21 on June 22, 2012, 04:34:32 PM
I just purchased all the same stuff and as sabotloader had suggested I went straight through Williams website. The only issues is that the hood is on back order.   http://www.williamsgunsight.com/ (http://www.williamsgunsight.com/)

It ended up being cheaper to buy the whole front and rear site kit.

Product Name: Fire Sight Ramp Hood (For Williams Ramp Only)
       Item#: 70031
       Unit Price: $10.50
       Quantity: 1
       Shipping Method: PRICE

Product Name: Knight Muzzleloader Front & Rear Fire Sight Set
- Fits all Knight rifles
       Item#: 66369
       Unit Price: $49.95
       Quantity: 1
       Shipping Method: PRICE

Shipping & Handling: $8.45
Grand Total: $68.90
Title: Re: Sabotloader I have a question
Post by: Bigshooter on June 22, 2012, 04:44:34 PM
Thanks,
Title: Re: Sabotloader I have a question
Post by: Elk whack master on June 22, 2012, 06:19:27 PM
why this sight set up? Whats not good about the one the gun comes with? Just need to know if i am gonna have to swap sights when mine gun gets here.
Title: Re: Sabotloader I have a question
Post by: Sabotloader on June 22, 2012, 07:32:26 PM
Also which one of these will I need? 
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=16338/Product/RIFLE-FIRE-SIGHTS (http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=16338/Product/RIFLE-FIRE-SIGHTS)

I'm having a heck of a time figuring this out.

You will need a 312N

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=16338/Product/RIFLE-FIRE-SIGHTS (http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=16338/Product/RIFLE-FIRE-SIGHTS)

962-564-340WB

This is the ramp

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=16151/Product/STREAMLINED-RAMP (http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=16151/Product/STREAMLINED-RAMP)

962-020-097WB



Title: Re: Sabotloader I have a question
Post by: Sabotloader on June 22, 2012, 07:47:30 PM
why this sight set up? Whats not good about the one the gun comes with? Just need to know if i am gonna have to swap sights when mine gun gets here.

The sight that will come with the gun isa regular William rear sight with elevation and windage slide and glide adjustments... The Williams FP peep give you precise 1/4 minute clicks just like a scope.

The front sight with a hood, and looking through the peep, give you the illusion of looking through a 1 power scope...

This not a real good picture but it kinda gives you the idea of what you might be seeing...

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2Fsabotloader%2FArchive%2FIMG_1339.jpg&hash=d164db6cf7f8d4c09e12e1a1f7bab341358f5d87)
Title: Re: Sabotloader I have a question
Post by: rosies or bust on June 22, 2012, 08:02:47 PM
Sabotloader, you ever have any issues losing are breaking any of these sights? I have lost an aperture in the past (I now have a spare on hand) and was just wondering about the durability of the front and rear sights.
Title: Re: Sabotloader I have a question
Post by: Sabotloader on June 22, 2012, 08:13:31 PM
Sabotloader, you ever have any issues losing are breaking any of these sights? I have lost an aperture in the past (I now have a spare on hand) and was just wondering about the durability of the front and rear sights.

You can and I have broken the fiber optic rod in the front sight.  Really doesn't happen very often, but with the hood installed it provides a lot of protection...  You can pull the hood off by snagging it in the brush, but since I know that I sqeeze it to fit very tight and also add some red lock-tight.

Rear sight I have never had a problem, but I always check the screw in appeture to make sure it is in and snug.  And I even take the apeture out in the early low light morning or evening.  That turns the whole setup into a ghost ring set up.

Title: Re: Sabotloader I have a question
Post by: rosies or bust on June 22, 2012, 08:20:49 PM
So the elevation and windage mechanics are tough? Bet they get hung up on vegetation, especially the sticker bushes on the coast. Thanks a bunch
Title: Re: Sabotloader I have a question
Post by: Sabotloader on June 22, 2012, 09:48:22 PM
So the elevation and windage mechanics are tough? Bet they get hung up on vegetation, especially the sticker bushes on the coast. Thanks a bunch

Oh yes the mechanics are very tough and the adjustment controls are built into and flush with the body of the sight... The mechanics also have locking screws to keep them in place.  Not thinking the brush would bother them at all.  But the hood could be a concern unless you install it tight and use something like lock-tight..

Here is a better picture of the FP Peep sight..

(https://hunting-washington.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv130%2Fsabotloader%2FP1010002a.jpg&hash=a8c01d3ac26b53cfa02d856ff4d1213e112df7aa)

You can see there is not much to get caught - but I would never say it was impossible...

Title: Re: Sabotloader I have a question
Post by: Bigshooter on June 23, 2012, 09:42:05 AM
Thank you Sabotloader.

I got the sight, ramp and hood for $54.92, all in stock.  Now I can't wait to get it all put together and do some shooting.
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