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Title: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: bearpaw on March 23, 2013, 09:23:18 AM
Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now!

http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,121284.25.html (http://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,121284.25.html)

This is the most important thing that you can do to help hunting in our state.  The Republicans are giving us this opportunity on a silver platter.  Remember, all four guys up for confirmation on the Wildlife Commission have had a state senate hearing and they were not voted on.  They can sit unconfirmed until their term expires without ever having another hearing.  They don't have to be voted on, but now they are being brought up for a vote.  The Senate Natural Resources Committee Chair is bringing these guys up for hearings even though he doesn't have to.  The writing is so clear.  The hunting community and ranchers are being thrown a political bone.  I would bet that a majority of hunters and ranchers vote Republican.  The Republican strongholds in Bellevue and the eastside, in 1980 had all nine seats held by Republicans.  The GOP now has three.  The GOP is losing in the burbs.  The GOP has to find new voters.  This session Republicans were unified on gun issues.  They only had two or three defecters at most on the anti-gun legislation.  The GOP finally has some political clout and they are willing to do what the Democrats do - share the wealth with people that support them.  I am not a Republican.  I am a political realist whose passion is preserving our Second Amendment and right to hunt.  Right now Republicans in this state want to be our allies and I will accept that as long as they support our issues.  We have to do our part.  We may never again have this chance to make a bigger splash than this.   The Republicans on the committee need to hear from us and so does Hargrove.  There are some pro-hunting Democrats who support this 100%.

I received a message this morning from a Washington legislator that said nobody is contacting the Senate Committee regarding the confirmation of four Wildlife Commissioners on March 26. This is the perfect chance for Hunting-Washington members to have a direct impact on the Wildlife Commission. My strategy is to send messages now to each committee member, then right before the vote we'll send another volley of messages to the committee assistant who will forward the messages to each committee member.

Please take 1 or 2 minutes and DO IT NOW IF YOU WANT A CHANGE!

(copy and paste email list)
Kirk.Pearson@leg.wa.gov; John.Smith@leg.wa.gov; Christine.Rolfes@leg.wa.gov; Jim.Hargrove@leg.wa.gov; Mike.Hewitt@leg.wa.gov; Adam.Kline@leg.wa.gov; Linda.Parlette@leg.wa.gov

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Confirmation of WDFW Wildlife Commissioners

(copy and paste message)
Senate Natural Resources and Parks Committee
RE: Confirmation of WDFW Wildlife Commissioners

Dear Senator,
I am concerned about the safety of pets, children, and the elderly in rural areas where rapidly increasing wolf packs are now causing an impact. Wolves are rapidly moving into new areas of Washington so it's imperative that wolves are managed in a responsible manner. I am also concerned about the future of ranching and our big game herds. Ranching, hunting, and fishing are vitally important to the rural economies in Washington. The Wildlife Commission establishes WDFW wolf policies and sets recreational hunting and fishing seasons. Ranchers, rural residents, hunters, and fishers are depending on the Senate to confirm wildlife commissioners who will maximize recreational opportunities and who provide relief to ranchers and rural residents suffering from the impacts of wolves.

Please CONFIRM Conrad Mahnken and Larry Carpenter, both of these commissioners are knowledgeable, they have shown an open mind, they will question WDFW on the issues, they are widely supported, and they both bring needed qualities to the commission that benefit Washington as a whole.

Please OPPOSE THE CONFIRMATION of Jay Kehne as an Eastern Washington Commissioner. He is a paid employee of Conservation Northwest a western Washington special interest environmental organization which opposes management of wolves, cougars, or any other predators and is often in opposition to predator hunting seasons. Kehne's employment by Conservation Northwest is a direct conflict of interest with his appointment as an Eastern Washington Commissioner. As you must know, the County Commissioners of Kehne's home county are opposed to his appointment.

Please OPPOSE THE CONFIRMATION of David Jennings an extremist environmentalist with a known radical anti-sport fishing agenda who has proposed closing Neah Bay to rock fishing a vitally important activity to the economic stability of that region. Jennings is also opposed to needed wolf management, rarely if ever supports hunting, wants to expand wilderness areas and create Marine Protected Areas (Water Wilderness). Please remove David Jennings from the Wildlife Commission he is considered by many to be the worst Wildlife Commissioner.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

Respectfully,
(your name)
(address)
(phone)
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now!
Post by: Special T on March 23, 2013, 09:35:08 AM
Done!  :tup: Kirk Pearson is a good guy, and he used to be my state Senator. If he is yours you should let him know your position and passion on the issue. I have talked to him in the past about the wolf issue and he is a friend to sportsmen.
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now!
Post by: bobcat on March 23, 2013, 09:35:26 AM
Email just sent!

Thanks Dale, for making it so easy.
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now!
Post by: Bob33 on March 23, 2013, 10:07:21 AM
Done.
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now!
Post by: bearpaw on March 23, 2013, 10:16:44 AM
This is a great opportunity to move these confirmations out of committee to the full Senate, Senator Smith is from my hometown "Colville", he sponsored the Senate wolf bills that passed the full senate and are now in the house. I have spoken with Senator Smith about his wolf bills, I'm confident he will vote in our favor on these confirmations.

________________________________________


I have spent several hours researching each of these commissioners this week including numerous phone calls around the state in order to make the following statements about each of the four commissioners up for confirmation:

Conrad Mahnken - Confirm
Mahnken is an extremely knowledgeable scientist and brings a lot of fisheries expertise to the commission that no one else on the commission possesses. He also questioned numerous issues in the wolf plan and supports controlling wolves. It is my recommendation and the recommendation of other hunters and fishers that Conrad Mahnken be confirmed. We strongly support Conrad Mahnken's confirmation.

Jay Kehne - Do Not Confirm
Kehne was appointed to serve as an Eastern Washington Commissioner but he is a paid employee of Conservation Northwest, a pro-wolf environmental organization based in Bellingham that is opposed to wolf management. Every time Jay Kehne votes he must consider the ramifications if he was to vote against the wishes of his boss Mitch Friedman at Conservation Northwest. Because Kehne wants to expand Wilderness areas in Washington, opposes hunters and ranchers on controlling wolves, is a paid employee of Conservation Northwest, and is opposed by the Okanogan County Commissioners and cattlemen’s association, please oppose Jay Kehne's confirmation as an Eastern Washington Commissioner. To his credit Kehne is a hunter and has supported hunters on issues not involving wolves, I know of at least one hunter supporting Jay Kehne's appointment. However the fact that Kehne is a paid lobbyist for Conservation Northwest cannot be overlooked, he should be considered unqualified as an Eastern Washington Commissioner for the reasons noted. It is my recommendation and the recommendation of many other hunters and fishers that Jay Kehne is not confirmed. We oppose Jay Kehne's confirmation.

David Jennings - Do Not Confirm
Jennings wants to expand Wilderness areas in Washington, wants to create Marine Protected Areas (Water Wilderness), has proposed closing rock fishing at Neah Bay which is possibly the state's best rock fishing waters, opposes hunters and ranchers on controlling wolves, has opposed hunters on most issues, and his agenda will harm local economies. Many hunters and fishers feel Jennings is probably the worst commissioner. It is my recommendation and the recommendation of other hunters and fishers that David Jennings is not confirmed. We adamantly oppose Jennings confirmation.

Larry Carpenter - Confirm
Carpenter is an avid fisherman and supports hunting, he is a member of several sports groups, is willing to listen to others, and is considered to be open minded and fair by most hunters and fishers I spoke with. It is my recommendation and the recommendation of other hunters and fishers that Larry Carpenter be confirmed. We strongly support Larry Carpenter's confirmation.



Important Notes:
I have been told there are only two wildlife commissioners who are confirmed. Smith and Schmitten, so they will remain on the commission till their terms expire. If I understand correctly Douvia, Wecker, and Perry are not up for confirmation which means the Governor may want to replace them. If they are replaced with anti-hunters or pro-wolfers we are in trouble. Therefore it is critical to try and get the Senate to confirm the best two commissioners and vote against the worst two commissioners which are up for confirmation.

It was suggested by one key leader in the outdoor community I spoke with that because Kehne is a hunter he is not our worst enemy on the commission. Another key person for the outdoor community pointed out that Kehn is a hunter but since he is employed by Conservation Northwest a western Washington environmental group, he is better suited to being a western Washington or an AT-Large Commissioner. Because Kehne was appointed as an Eastern Washington Commissioner I think we must oppose Kene's confirmation.
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now!
Post by: pianoman9701 on March 23, 2013, 10:17:47 AM
I don't see the term "environmentalist" as a negative. I consider myself an environmentalist. I think it needs to be stronger, like "environmentalist with a known, radical anti-sport fishing agenda". Just my  :twocents:

Thanks for posting this up, Dale. :tup: I've written, as you know.
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now!
Post by: bobcat on March 23, 2013, 10:22:07 AM
I don't see the term "environmentalist" as a negative. I consider myself an environmentalist. I think it needs to be stronger, like "environmentalist with a known, radical anti-sport fishing agenda". Just my  :twocents:

Good point. I think all hunters should care about the environement. So I don't get why the term "environmentalist" always seems to have such a negative connotation with many hunters.
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now!
Post by: Special T on March 23, 2013, 10:24:38 AM
I think its because "Sportsmen" which is our camp is a better description. WE choose management, and "environmentalists" choose natures balance, and no consumption.  :twocents:
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now!
Post by: bearpaw on March 23, 2013, 10:26:01 AM
I don't see the term "environmentalist" as a negative. I consider myself an environmentalist. I think it needs to be stronger, like "environmentalist with a known, radical anti-sport fishing agenda". Just my  :twocents:

Good point. I think all hunters should care about the environement. So I don't get why the term "environmentalist" always seems to have such a negative connotation with many hunters.

 :yeah:  language changed
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now!
Post by: pianoman9701 on March 23, 2013, 10:27:58 AM
I think its because "Sportsmen" which is our camp is a better description. WE choose management, and "environmentalists" choose natures balance, and no consumption.  :twocents:

So ST, that's how you and I see the word. However, the word environmentalist to most others has no negative connotation on its own. We're not trying to influence people who agree with us. We're trying to influence people who need to be educated as to what's wrong with the commission.
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now!
Post by: pianoman9701 on March 23, 2013, 10:29:51 AM
"Dear Senators on the Natural Resources & Parks Commission,

I respectfully write to you today as a voting constituent, a volunteering conservationist, a master hunter, and a concerned Washington resident. Two of the sitting members of the Wildlife Commission who come up for confirmation consideration in your hearing next Tuesday are not suitable candidates for the wildlife commission, Jay Kehne and David Jennings.

Mr. Kehne is a paid consultant for the lobbying organization Conservation Northwest, a vocally pro-wolf organization. Retaining a paid pro-wolf lobbyist on our state wildlife commission seems unbelievable to me. Mr. Jennings is considered by many to be way over the top in his opposition to sport fishing, having once proposed closing much of Neah Bay, a very active and abundant sport fishery, to sport fishing.

As I'm sure you're aware, Dave Ware, wildlife manager for the DFW said last week that he expects damages from wolf depredation to reach $2.3 million dollars this year, a trebling of $750,000.00 in 2012 (ref.
http://nwsportsmanmag.com/2013/03/20/wa-wolf-bill-for-2013-estimated-at-2-3-million/ (http://nwsportsmanmag.com/2013/03/20/wa-wolf-bill-for-2013-estimated-at-2-3-million/) ). The wolf program has gone out of control and has done so with the help of people like Mr. Kehne and Mr. Jennings and anti-hunting and fishing agendas.

I respectfully submit that WA's sportsmen and women pay half of the WDFW's operating budget through license fees, while only 15% comes from the general fund. The remaining 35% comes back to us from the federally collected funds of the Federal Aid in Wildlife Restoration Act (Pittman Robertson), which is funded solely by purchases of firearms, ammunition, and archery equipment. Sportsmen in this state effectively pay 85% of the WDFW's budget (source: WDFW hunter education booklet). Stacking the wildlife commission with people who oppose fishing in abundant fisheries or promote a wolf program which is outrageous and is growing out of control, seems not only to bite the hand which feeds, but to be in direct opposition to ethics and sound government practice*.

Many of the state's sportsmen are worried and upset by these appointments and feel that the DFW is being led away from serving them and toward serving special interest groups who don't pay the bills and who oppose hunting and fishing. We are depending on you, our elected officials to right this wrong. I beseech you to reconsider these appointments and take these people off the commission for the benefit of our sportsmen, solid scientifically-based wildlife management,  and balanced conservation.

I respectfully request the courtesy of a reply. Thank you all for your service to our great state.

--
Most Sincerely,
John
Vancouver

*Our approved wolf plan is 50% more aggressive than that
 of MT and we have 16 times their population density. MT is having
severe problems, not only with its plummeting ungulate (deer, elk,
moose) populations, but the entire economy which surrounds sporting and
hunting. Our expected increase in spending is just the tip of the
 iceberg if we don't manage these predators to levels appropriate with
our geographic and habitat limitations."
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now!
Post by: huntnphool on March 23, 2013, 10:31:35 AM
 :tup:
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now!
Post by: WildlifeAssassin on March 23, 2013, 10:38:18 AM
Done, in the copy paste email right after David Jennings the word extremist is missing it's "r"
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now!
Post by: bearpaw on March 23, 2013, 10:41:37 AM
Done, in the copy paste email right after David Jennings the word extremist is missing it's "r"

 :tup: fixed
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: huntnphool on March 23, 2013, 10:52:52 AM
I'm going through my notes from the Oct. 6th 2011 meeting and can't find the WDFW estimate numbers. I should have taken a picture of the screen when they put it up, does anyone have a pic of that or wrote down their $ estimate to be paid out each year in managing the wolves?
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: BOWHUNTER45 on March 23, 2013, 10:55:10 AM
Done .... :tup:
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: Elkslayer on March 23, 2013, 11:07:25 AM
Email sent....  thanks for all the info BP.... :tup:
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now!
Post by: huntnphool on March 23, 2013, 11:07:39 AM
"Dear Senators on the Natural Resources & Parks Commission,

I respectfully write to you today as a voting constituent, a volunteering conservationist, a master hunter, and a concerned Washington resident. Two of the sitting members of the Wildlife Commission who come up for confirmation consideration in your hearing next Tuesday are not suitable candidates for the wildlife commission, Jay Kehne and David Jennings.

Mr. Kehne is a paid consultant for the lobbying organization Conservation Northwest, a vocally pro-wolf organization. Retaining a paid pro-wolf lobbyist on our state wildlife commission seems unbelievable to me. Mr. Jennings is considered by many to be way over the top in his opposition to sport fishing, having once proposed closing much of Neah Bay, a very active and abundant sport fishery, to sport fishing.

As I'm sure you're aware, Dave Ware, wildlife manager for the DFW said last week that he expects damages from wolf depredation to reach $2.3 million dollars this year, a trebling of $750,000.00 in 2012 (ref.
http://nwsportsmanmag.com/2013/03/20/wa-wolf-bill-for-2013-estimated-at-2-3-million/ (http://nwsportsmanmag.com/2013/03/20/wa-wolf-bill-for-2013-estimated-at-2-3-million/) ). The wolf program has gone out of control and has done so with the help of people like Mr. Kehne and Mr. Jennings and anti-hunting and fishing agendas.

I respectfully submit that WA's sportsmen and women pay half of the WDFW's operating budget through license fees, while only 15% comes from the general fund. The remaining 35% comes back to us from the federally collected funds of the Federal Aid in Wildlife Restoration Act (Pittman Robertson), which is funded solely by purchases of firearms, ammunition, and archery equipment. Sportsmen in this state effectively pay 85% of the WDFW's budget (source: WDFW hunter education booklet). Stacking the wildlife commission with people who oppose fishing in abundant fisheries or promote a wolf program which is outrageous and is growing out of control, seems not only to bite the hand which feeds, but to be in direct opposition to ethics and sound government practice*.

Many of the state's sportsmen are worried and upset by these appointments and feel that the DFW is being led away from serving them and toward serving special interest groups who don't pay the bills and who oppose hunting and fishing. We are depending on you, our elected officials to right this wrong. I beseech you to reconsider these appointments and take these people off the commission for the benefit of our sportsmen, solid scientifically-based wildlife management,  and balanced conservation.

I respectfully request the courtesy of a reply. Thank you all for your service to our great state.

--
Most Sincerely,
John
Vancouver

*Our approved wolf plan is 50% more aggressive than that
 of MT and we have 16 times their population density. MT is having
severe problems, not only with its plummeting ungulate (deer, elk,
moose) populations, but the entire economy which surrounds sporting and
hunting. Our expected increase in spending is just the tip of the
 iceberg if we don't manage these predators to levels appropriate with
our geographic and habitat limitations."
Well written John. Going through my notes from 2011 it was Chuck Perry from the commission that replied to the WDFW management estimate stating "costs for management in the other states is 2-3 times higher than your estimate, why do you think WDFW can do it cheaper?"
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: bearpaw on March 23, 2013, 11:13:23 AM
Perry, Douvia, and Wecker are commissioners who are not up for confirmation. That could be bad news if the governor plans to replace them!
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: huntnphool on March 23, 2013, 11:40:32 AM
Idaho found that 44 deer and 20 elk per wolf are killed each year in their state, the WDFW estimate for ungulate depredation in this state was significantly lower as well.

The comment that should really have hunters pissed off came out of the mouths of the WDFW themselves saying "wolves will likely take up to half the elk slotted for hunters"
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: buckfvr on March 23, 2013, 11:48:11 AM
Done.......lets hope it doesnt get worse with the new gov................he is reputed to not support our interests.
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now!
Post by: bigtex on March 23, 2013, 11:50:25 AM
I respectfully submit that WA's sportsmen and women pay half of the WDFW's operating budget through license fees, while only 15% comes from the general fund. The remaining 35% comes back to us from the federally collected funds of the Federal Aid in Wildlife Restoration Act (Pittman Robertson), which is funded solely by purchases of firearms, ammunition, and archery equipment. Sportsmen in this state effectively pay 85% of the WDFW's budget (source: WDFW hunter education booklet). Stacking the wildlife commission with people who oppose fishing in abundant fisheries or promote a wolf program which is outrageous and is growing out of control, seems not only to bite the hand which feeds, but to be in direct opposition to ethics and sound government practice*.

May want to check your sources.
During the 11-13 Budget:
27% from the Wildlife Fund (licenses)
29% Feds
16% General Fund
12% Other
16% Local Funding

"half of the WDFW's operating budget through license fees" That number is not half, but actually 27%

The federal funding is actually not just Pittman Robertson but actually numerous funding sources. For example just in Enforcement they get the equivalent of funding 2 Officer positions from NMFS/NOAA plus additional $ from them, they get funding for half an officer position from the Bureau of Reclamation. And they get overtime funding from BLM and US Army Corps of Engingeers.
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now!
Post by: huntnphool on March 23, 2013, 11:54:37 AM
I respectfully submit that WA's sportsmen and women pay half of the WDFW's operating budget through license fees, while only 15% comes from the general fund. The remaining 35% comes back to us from the federally collected funds of the Federal Aid in Wildlife Restoration Act (Pittman Robertson), which is funded solely by purchases of firearms, ammunition, and archery equipment. Sportsmen in this state effectively pay 85% of the WDFW's budget (source: WDFW hunter education booklet). Stacking the wildlife commission with people who oppose fishing in abundant fisheries or promote a wolf program which is outrageous and is growing out of control, seems not only to bite the hand which feeds, but to be in direct opposition to ethics and sound government practice*.

May want to check your sources.
During the 11-13 Budget:
27% from the Wildlife Fund (licenses)
29% Feds
16% General Fund
12% Other
16% Local Funding

"half of the WDFW's operating budget through license fees" That number is not half, but actually 27%

The federal funding is actually not just Pittman Robertson but actually numerous funding sources. For example just in Enforcement they get the equivalent of funding 2 Officer positions from NMFS/NOAA plus additional $ from them, they get funding for half an officer position from the Bureau of Reclamation. And they get overtime funding from BLM and US Army Corps of Engingeers.
sounds to me like he played it perfectly. :tup:
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: pendoreilleadventures on March 23, 2013, 12:26:13 PM
My father, wife, and I all sent emails :tup:
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: ghosthunter on March 23, 2013, 01:05:56 PM
Email sent.

 :tup:
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: Hunter4Life on March 23, 2013, 01:22:16 PM
Quote
"The most powerful environmentalists I know are hunters, because they see firsthand--it is not an abstraction for them. They actually spend time in the outdoors. They want to take their children to hunt and fish in the same place that their father took them."
---Theodore Roosevelt

Unfortunately the term "environmentalist" in todays political lingo has become these radical eco tree-huggers that go so far that they put the environment over people at any cost.  They want no growth whatsoever.  People are not part of the equation.  Way back when I remember that there was a group of wackos that wanted to eliminate all fish from alpine likes because fish pollute the water!  This is the Dave Jennings sea kitten environmentalism.  So radical that the environment is put on an alter that it is not to be used.  And no, I know that Jennings doesn't want to kill all the fish or any fish for that matter. 

The Theodore Roosevelt environmentalism is a good thing.  Sound management policies that preserve our natual resources and realize that hunting is necessary to preserve the natural order.   The environment has to be protected for future generations, so that they can enjoy the outdoors to do whatever; hike, fish, hunt, take pictures, whatever.  Common sense polices that know people are part of the equation and the outdoors is a resource to be enjoyed and treasured.

When you are a hunter, you are already an environmentalist.  The game that you seek needs to have sustainable habitat to survive.  Prey and predator species need to be correctly managed so that there are hunting opportunities and that man is part of the natural order.  The terms go hand in hand.  I just call myself a hunter and leave it at that.  I will use the term environmentalist to how it is incorrectly used in today's political jargon.

 
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: Special T on March 23, 2013, 02:27:41 PM
 :yeah: Very true. However when the MEANING of words change it is important to recognize that.
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now!
Post by: pianoman9701 on March 23, 2013, 02:32:12 PM
I respectfully submit that WA's sportsmen and women pay half of the WDFW's operating budget through license fees, while only 15% comes from the general fund. The remaining 35% comes back to us from the federally collected funds of the Federal Aid in Wildlife Restoration Act (Pittman Robertson), which is funded solely by purchases of firearms, ammunition, and archery equipment. Sportsmen in this state effectively pay 85% of the WDFW's budget (source: WDFW hunter education booklet). Stacking the wildlife commission with people who oppose fishing in abundant fisheries or promote a wolf program which is outrageous and is growing out of control, seems not only to bite the hand which feeds, but to be in direct opposition to ethics and sound government practice*.

May want to check your sources.
During the 11-13 Budget:
27% from the Wildlife Fund (licenses)
29% Feds
16% General Fund
12% Other
16% Local Funding

"half of the WDFW's operating budget through license fees" That number is not half, but actually 27%

The federal funding is actually not just Pittman Robertson but actually numerous funding sources. For example just in Enforcement they get the equivalent of funding 2 Officer positions from NMFS/NOAA plus additional $ from them, they get funding for half an officer position from the Bureau of Reclamation. And they get overtime funding from BLM and US Army Corps of Engingeers.

OK, so my source is the WDFW for the 50%. If you read the Hunter Education guide, it clearly says so. If their figures are wrong, well...
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: Special T on March 23, 2013, 02:33:47 PM
2 Gov publications contradict each other? Say it ain't SO!  :chuckle:
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Post by: fishinmike on March 23, 2013, 02:48:23 PM
E-mail sent, thanks for the heads up.
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: SCRUBS on March 23, 2013, 02:49:24 PM
Sent :tup:
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: pianoman9701 on March 23, 2013, 03:00:10 PM
2 Gov publications contradict each other? Say it ain't SO!  :chuckle:

I know, right.
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: FSTaxidermy on March 23, 2013, 03:16:36 PM
Sent  :tup:
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Post by: Hunter4Life on March 23, 2013, 03:46:32 PM
Talk about a laughable government punlication.  I have attached a documentt produced by WDFW "Washington's fish and wildlife mean business and jobs."  According to this document, wildlife watching means more to the economy and create more jobs than hunting and fishing do combines.  This is so laughable.  When the wolf plan was being adopted, I can't tell you how many wolf huggers used this to justify so many breeding pairs in the plan.  Wolf watchers would flock into this state to see wolves and crate an economic boom.  Even if this BS were true and not pure fantasy, WDFW would not get any of it.  The sales tax revenue would go into the general fund and not to WDFW. 
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: Pinetar on March 23, 2013, 04:11:04 PM
Done. Thanks for the heads up!
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: Hunter4Life on March 23, 2013, 04:48:42 PM
Here is a national poll commissioned by Nation Hunting and Fishing Day:

Quote
Poll Data

Do you approve or disapprove of legal hunting? (2006)
 77.6% Approve (45.4% strongly approve, 32.2% moderately approve)
 16.3% Disapprove (8% strongly disapprove, 8.3% moderately disapprove)
 6.1% Neither approve nor disapprove, don't know

Do you approve or disapprove of legal hunting? (1995)
 73% Approve (40% strongly approve, 33% moderately approve)
 22% Disapprove (11% strong disapprove, 11% moderately disapprove)
 5% Neither approve nor disapprove, don't know

Do you approve or disapprove of recreational fishing? (2006)
 93.3% Approve (68.5% strongly approve, 24.8% moderately approve)
 5.2% Disapprove (2% strongly disapprove, 3.2% moderately disapprove)
 1.5% Neither approve nor disapprove

Do you approve or disapprove of legal fishing? (1995)
 95% Approve (65% strongly approve, 30% moderately approve)
 3% Disapprove (1% strongly disapprove, 2% moderately disapprove)
 2% Neither approve nor disapprove, don't know

"We have been seeing public support for hunting increase at state levels, but this is the first nationwide study where we could verify that public support has increased over the past decade. In 1995, 73 percent of Americans approved of hunting. In 2006, 78 percent approved," said Mark Damian Duda, executive director of Responsive Management, which conducted the survey.

Why the increasing support for hunting? Duda says research shows that as Americans learn more about the role of hunting in wildlife management, coupled with a visible increase of deer in urban areas, public support grows

A great quote in the same story:

Quote
"Without hunters, many game species would go unmanaged, unbalanced, with populations too high or too low to suit an environmentally conscious America. That was the original message of National Hunting and Fishing Day 35 years ago, and it's gratifying to see it still ringing true in modern society," said Doug Painter, president of the National Shooting Sports Foundation, which founded the annual commemoration.

WDFW hired the same company to do the same poll for Washington State alone and the hunting support numbers in our state were higher than the national average.  We are the majority.  Hunters far outnumber HSUS and PETA and all the other animal-rights wackos many times combined.   

Why does it seem the animal-rights movement is so strong?  They outwork us.  One reason is that these wackos don't have jobs, so they have more time.  You can bet they are sending their messages in support of Kehne and Jennings. 

It's time to do our part.  The hunting community can be an awesome political force.  Hunters organized to beat propsed Thurston County No Shppting Zone Ordinance and put so much pressure on the commissioners that it was defeated.  One Democratic operative called it "The Thurston County No Political future Ordinance" just before the vote.  Even anti-gun Ken Schram agreed with the hunters in this fight and did a story "I agree with the Waterfowlers."  Getting Kehne and Jennings out is just a short message away from each one of us
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Post by: Big10gauge on March 23, 2013, 05:33:51 PM
Done
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Post by: washelkhunter on March 23, 2013, 06:39:50 PM
Tagging, i'll get on this Sunday. Thx for the heads up. By the way how is one selected to sit on the commission?
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: 6x6in6 on March 23, 2013, 07:18:01 PM
Done!
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: bearpaw on March 23, 2013, 07:55:55 PM
Idaho found that 44 deer and 20 elk per wolf are killed each year in their state, the WDFW estimate for ungulate depredation in this state was significantly lower as well.

The comment that should really have hunters pissed off came out of the mouths of the WDFW themselves saying "wolves will likely take up to half the elk slotted for hunters"

Do you know when this was said and by whom, I would like to bring this up at the Colville meeting?
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Post by: bear hunter on March 23, 2013, 08:02:01 PM
DONE- Thanks bearpaw
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: huntnphool on March 23, 2013, 08:11:10 PM
Idaho found that 44 deer and 20 elk per wolf are killed each year in their state, the WDFW estimate for ungulate depredation in this state was significantly lower as well.

The comment that should really have hunters pissed off came out of the mouths of the WDFW themselves saying "wolves will likely take up to half the elk slotted for hunters"

Do you know when this was said and by whom, I would like to bring this up at the Colville meeting?
I don't. It was said by one of the commissioners as he was looking at the WDFW numbers on the screen during the powerpoint presentation. He was basically doing his own math as he was talking to WDFW and reading the numbers.
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: huntnphool on March 23, 2013, 09:30:38 PM
I found the WDFW estimated costs of wolf management, I'll post it in the other thread as well. As you can see they were a little off, and Duvia was spot on.
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Post by: Humptulips on March 23, 2013, 10:41:53 PM
So I sent an e-mail and filled the poll out. Come on guys only 26 sent something off. :bash:
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: NoImpactNoIdea on March 23, 2013, 10:51:17 PM
I will do this as soon as I get home tonight.
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: huntnphool on March 23, 2013, 11:35:53 PM
So I sent an e-mail and filled the poll out. Come on guys only 26 sent something off. :bash:
There have been several sent that did not post. ;)
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: Hunter4Life on March 24, 2013, 01:06:18 AM
Tagging, i'll get on this Sunday. Thx for the heads up. By the way how is one selected to sit on the commission?

The governor appoints the members of the Wildlife Commission.   :bdid: :bash: >:(

Our new governor while a member of Congress was HSUS "Legislator of the Year" twice and out of 435 members of the House was rated the worst on sportsmen's issues.
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on March 24, 2013, 06:51:22 AM
Perry, Douvia, and Wecker are commissioners who are not up for confirmation. That could be bad news if the governor plans to replace them!


True,and DONE!
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: turkeyfeather on March 24, 2013, 06:55:19 AM
Idaho found that 44 deer and 20 elk per wolf are killed each year in their state, the WDFW estimate for ungulate depredation in this state was significantly lower as well.

The comment that should really have hunters pissed off came out of the mouths of the WDFW themselves saying "wolves will likely take up to half the elk slotted for hunters"

Do you know when this was said and by whom, I would like to bring this up at the Colville meeting?
I can't say for deer, but I know when the meeting was held in Spokane, Carter Niemeyer stated that wolves eat 12-22 elk each per year.
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: buckfvr on March 24, 2013, 08:07:45 AM
We need  to be able to have forwarning of any actions being considered by the governor regarding remove and replace options of commissioners.  We need to find out if our reps can stall or block appointees that are driven by special interest groups, especially those connected to our governor.  SOmehow......we need to be able to say no, and have it mean something.  As with the WDFW meetings, I really dont think they listen AND consider what we say.....for sure not in Olympia.   :twocents:

And I'll add, my feeling is that those who present the meetings on behalf of WDFW are subservient to those in Olympia.  They attend and present wdfw agenda, but are completely powerless to initiate change or encourage us as a group.  There is an agenda in this state that is way bigger than all of us, and we missed a grand opportunity last election.
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: huntnphool on March 24, 2013, 09:50:03 AM
Idaho found that 44 deer and 20 elk per wolf are killed each year in their state, the WDFW estimate for ungulate depredation in this state was significantly lower as well.

The comment that should really have hunters pissed off came out of the mouths of the WDFW themselves saying "wolves will likely take up to half the elk slotted for hunters"

Do you know when this was said and by whom, I would like to bring this up at the Colville meeting?
I can't say for deer, but I know when the meeting was held in Spokane, Carter Niemeyer stated that wolves eat 12-22 elk each per year.
Where?
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: bearpaw on March 24, 2013, 10:08:40 AM
 :bumpin:

We need to get more messages sent and anyone who would like to help more please send me a pm, I have a prepared message that I'll provide that you can send to friends, family, and sporting groups. We need all the help we can get on this.

 :hello:
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: denali on March 24, 2013, 10:10:37 AM
http://www.yakimaherald.com/news/966354-8/rural-residents-seek-to-ease-restrictions-on-wolf (http://www.yakimaherald.com/news/966354-8/rural-residents-seek-to-ease-restrictions-on-wolf)


Jay Kehne, an Okanogan County commissioner who serves as the county’s outreach coordinator for Conservation Northwest, said it would be a mistake to give citizens the right to shoot a wolf.

“The thing that happened in Twisp to the dog is unusual. Very unusual,” he said. “It’s not like some milestone to say, ‘Hey, see, it’s already happening, we’ve got to do something.’ The odds of that happening again are not huge, so it’s in my mind a lot of this is politics.

“What we really need is for wolves recovered (to the minimum standards established by the state’s wolf management plan) so they can be managed, and we’ll get to that quicker if we don’t take steps to kill them.”

our Commission at work  :bash: :bash:   
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: Dave Workman on March 24, 2013, 11:20:42 AM
Quote

Unfortunately the term "environmentalist" in todays political lingo has become these radical eco tree-huggers that go so far that they put the environment over people at any cost.  They want no growth whatsoever.  People are not part of the equation.  Way back when I remember that there was a group of wackos that wanted to eliminate all fish from alpine likes because fisg pollute the water!  This is the Dave Jennings sea kitten environmentalism.  So radical that the environment is put on an alter that it is not to be used.  And no, I know that Jennings doesn't want to kill all the fish or any fish for that matter. 


It is worse, much worse.
Having written a book on extremist "environmentalists" a few years ago, many of these people are dangerous, to the point of terrorism. I frequently see these self-described environmentalists suggesting that hunters should be shot or otherwise killed.

You're right that they have fought planting fingerlings in the high lakes, and the Department of NO Fish and WATCHABLE Wildlife, far as I can tell, hasn't told them to pound sand. Correct me if I am wrong, but hasn't that program been scrubbed??? Wasn't there a group of guys who used to pack fingerlings into these lakes in special tanks to release?

Some of these environmentalists are simply nuts, they hate humans, which means they're not too fond of themselves.

The irony seems to escape them, however.

Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: mulehunter on March 24, 2013, 12:12:47 PM
Done sent!   :tup: 
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Post by: Hunter4Life on March 24, 2013, 02:07:20 PM
Quote

Unfortunately the term "environmentalist" in todays political lingo has become these radical eco tree-huggers that go so far that they put the environment over people at any cost.  They want no growth whatsoever.  People are not part of the equation.  Way back when I remember that there was a group of wackos that wanted to eliminate all fish from alpine likes because fish pollute the water!  This is the Dave Jennings sea kitten environmentalism.  So radical that the environment is put on an alter that it is not to be used.  And no, I know that Jennings doesn't want to kill all the fish or any fish for that matter. 



It is worse, much worse.
Having written a book on extremist "environmentalists" a few years ago, many of these people are dangerous, to the point of terrorism. I frequently see these self-described environmentalists suggesting that hunters should be shot or otherwise killed.

You're right that they have fought planting fingerlings in the high lakes, and the Department of NO Fish and WATCHABLE Wildlife, far as I can tell, hasn't told them to pound sand. Correct me if I am wrong, but hasn't that program been scrubbed??? Wasn't there a group of guys who used to pack fingerlings into these lakes in special tanks to release?

Some of these environmentalists are simply nuts, they hate humans, which means they're not too fond of themselves.

The irony seems to escape them, however.

You are correct Dave, that program has been scrubbed long ago.  Some of them are terrorists.  Some of these radical animal-rights groups like the Animal Liberation Front and radical environmental groups are on the FBI's list of terrorist organizations.  Remember when a couple of members from one of these groups burned down a botanical lab at the University of Washington?  They destroyed 75 years vital reseach.  They hate people as you said.  These radical sicken me like no others.
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: bearpaw on March 24, 2013, 08:46:57 PM
 :bumpin:

We need to get more messages sent!

Anyone who would like to help more please send me a pm, I have a prepared message that I'll provide that you can send to friends, family, and sporting groups. We need all the help we can get on this.

 :hello:
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: Elkaholic daWg on March 25, 2013, 07:01:48 AM
 Just did again...
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: bearpaw on March 25, 2013, 09:21:19 AM
 :bumpin:

We need to get more messages sent, they will be doing this tomorrow, ACT NOW!

See the first post for easy details.

Anyone who would like to help more please send me a pm, I have a prepared message that I'll provide that you can send to friends, family, and sporting groups. We need all the help we can get on this.

 :hello:
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: whacker1 on March 25, 2013, 09:54:36 AM
Done.

Thank you Bearpaw and others for organizing this effort.  I hope it doesn't fall on deaf ears.
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Post by: 6x6in6 on March 25, 2013, 10:10:05 AM
Bump...............

Start new e-mail.
Copy.
Paste.
Send.

PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: bearpaw on March 25, 2013, 10:20:14 AM
Workman is lending a helping hand... :tup:


Hunters encouraged to weigh in on commission appointments

An interesting drama is unfolding in the hunting community, ignited by a thread on the Hunting-Washington forum, that encourages hunters to actively oppose two Fish & Wildlife Commission confirmations that will be before the Senate Natural Resources Committee on Tuesday.

http://www.examiner.com/article/hunters-encouraged-to-weigh-on-commission-appointments?cid=db_articles (http://www.examiner.com/article/hunters-encouraged-to-weigh-on-commission-appointments?cid=db_articles)



send a message today.....
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: kevinlisa06 on March 25, 2013, 10:38:10 PM
Email sent
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: jrebel on March 25, 2013, 11:58:27 PM
done
 :tup:
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: bearpaw on March 26, 2013, 09:45:51 AM
I just got off the phone with Ryan Benson at Big Game Forever. They have set up their advocacy system to send letters to the Washington Senate Natural Resources Committee. Ryan says it only takes about 30 seconds and a message is sent on your behalf, you even have the option to change the wording in the message as desired.

Send an automated message NOW:  http://capwiz.com/biggameforever/issues/alert/?alertid=62544316&PROCESS=Take+Action (http://capwiz.com/biggameforever/issues/alert/?alertid=62544316&PROCESS=Take+Action)  
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Post by: silverdalesauer on March 26, 2013, 09:51:44 AM
Just got the email from Big Game Forever on this. I used their pre-made email format and emailed our legislature within 20 seconds!

Let's get this word passed around. It's a big day for WA Hunting.

------------  This is the email message below:

Folks,

Please take 30 seconds and send a message to Washington State Senators.  Washington State Wildlife Commission appointments will be voted on at 1:30pm today.  We have a editable message ready for you to edit and send.  Using our automated system is fast, its easy and its free. It only takes about 30 seconds to send your message.  Your support is really important to protect a future of abundant wildlife in Washington State.

To Send a message, Click Here.

You can send also send a message by visiting: http://capwiz.com/biggameforever/issues/alert/?alertid=62544316&PROCESS=Take+Action (http://capwiz.com/biggameforever/issues/alert/?alertid=62544316&PROCESS=Take+Action)

Considering the rapid growth of Washington State's Wolf population this year, it is imperative that we have commissioners who support responsible wolf management.  After you have sent your message, consider forwarding this email to several friends and family members.  Ask them to support a future of abundant wildlife and our right to hunt and fish in Washington State by sending a message today.

--
Ryan Benson
http://biggameforever.org/ (http://biggameforever.org/)
ryandbenson@msn.com

Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: bearpaw on March 26, 2013, 12:59:43 PM
Just sent another message to the committee legislative assistant: katharine.grimes@leg.wa.gov


Katharine,
Please forward this message to the Senate Natural Resources and Parks Committee. Please CONFIRM Mahnken and Carpenter, please OPPOSE Jennings and Kehne.

Thank You,
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: huntnphool on March 26, 2013, 01:03:14 PM
 :tup:
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Post by: HighCountryHunter88 on March 26, 2013, 01:09:34 PM
DONE :tup:
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: Rainier10 on March 26, 2013, 01:59:57 PM
Easy peasy, done. :tup:
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: pendoreilleadventures on March 26, 2013, 07:12:02 PM
Hey anyone have results from todays vote?

Sent from my C771 using Tapatalk 2

Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: bearpaw on March 26, 2013, 08:10:36 PM
I just got off the phone and was told that they did not vote on any of them yet. We need to keep the messages going, from what I heard they really grilled Jennings. I'm listening to Mahnken now. You can download the video of the meeting here: http://www.tvw.org/index.php?option=com_tvwplayer&eventID=2013031130 (http://www.tvw.org/index.php?option=com_tvwplayer&eventID=2013031130)

Conrad Mahnken begins at 16:00



Please keep sending messages to the Senators.  :tup:
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: huntnphool on March 26, 2013, 08:45:35 PM
I just got off the phone and was told that they did not vote on any of them yet. We need to keep the messages going, from what I heard they really grilled Jennings. I'm listening to Mahnken now. You can download the video of the meeting here: http://www.tvw.org/index.php?option=com_tvwplayer&eventID=2013031130 (http://www.tvw.org/index.php?option=com_tvwplayer&eventID=2013031130)

Conrad Mahnken begins at 16:00



Please keep sending messages to the Senators.  :tup:
Todays attack in Mission should be brought up tomorrow Dale.
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: bearpaw on March 27, 2013, 08:20:05 AM
I reviewed the video of the four commissioners testifying before the Senate Natural Resources and Parks Committee.
http://www.tvw.org/index.php?option=com_tvwplayer&eventID=2013031130 (http://www.tvw.org/index.php?option=com_tvwplayer&eventID=2013031130)

Conrad Mahnken begins at 16:00
Mahnken is a very knowledgeable fisheries scientist devoted to recovering salmon and using science to manage fish and wildlife, he seems sincere in providing equal benefits for commercial and recreational fishers. He acknowledged that economic considerations are important in management. When asked about wolves he said he is both encouraged and alarmed at the spread of wolves into NE WA. He said he is concerned about delisting and impacts on livestock and wildlife. He seems to understand the wolf problems facing WA. I have not heard a single person who is opposed to Mahnken's appointment.
Please confirm Conrad Mahnken

Larry Carpenter begins at 32:20
Carpenter is a small businessman who actively works with commercial and recreational fishers. He is very knowledgeable about fisheries allocation and is concerned about bringing youth into our outdoor sports. He supports upgrading hatcheries and saving non-target fish when commercial fishing. Carpenter is not as knowledgeable in hunting but hunters I have spoken with say his is fair and open minded about hunting and not a single person I've spoken with has opposed Carpenter's appointment.
Please confirm Larry Carpenter

David Jennings begins at 42:20
David Jennings has worked with the Audubon Society and has promoted non-consumptive wildlife issues in the WDFW. He has been honored by an environmental organization for his work in range conservation and he says decisions are best when supported by peer reviewed science. The WA wolf plan is based on peer reviewed science rather than the experiences learned in Idaho and Montana. As a result the WA wolf plan underestimated the cost of wolves, the rate of increase in wolf populations, the amount of livestock depredation, and requires 150% as many wolves in WA as in MT to delist. Montana is twice the size of WA so the result will be 300% wolf density in WA compared to Montana and WA has many times the human population. I do not know of a single sportsman who supports Jenning's appointment.
Please OPPOSE David Jennings

Jay Kehne begins at 52:40  (1:01:12 to 1:06:45 illustrates Kehne's conflict of interest)
I've met Jay Kehne and must say he is a nice guy but the fact remains that his employer is a Western Washington environmental activist lobbying organization that promotes wolves and wilderness. Kehne was asked very specifically who he would support when making decisions, his employer Conservation Northwest or the people of Eastern Washington. Kehne's testimony confirmed to me that his employer's interests will comes first before the people of Eastern Washington. When pressed further on who he would support his reply first involved his employer, that is very telling.
Please OPPOSE Jay Kehne

 


The Committee did not vote on these commissioners yet, please keep sending messages to the Senators.  :tup:
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: Capt Morgan on March 27, 2013, 10:40:28 AM
E Mail sent  :tup:
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: bigtex on March 27, 2013, 11:00:54 AM
Response I got from Senator Kline (D-Seattle) in response to the Big Game Forever form letter:

Thanks for your note.  The Natural Resources and Parks Committee just heard all four appointees.  They appeared in person, and we asked questions that reflected our own preferences.  Some committee members seemed to insist that the candidates act in the way that their own constituents would like.  I prefer to see them as individuals who have the elected Governor’s confidence (though some preceded him by 18 months or more) because they are capable of negotiating to a statewide solution, rather than because they follow slavishly the desires of one or another stakeholder group, or the ideology of “urban” or “rural” residents—as if those were monolithic blocs.  The answers of all four gentlemen convinced me that they are willing to balance the conflicting needs of urban and rural Washington, whether in regard to wolf-management, fisheries management, or hunting.  I intend to vote to confirm all four, including the one who took a different position on wolf-management than I do.

If we legislators want to draft and pass our own wildlife management plans, I suppose we could do that.  We could legislate hunting seasons, even vote on where to assign staff.  But we delegate that to an agency because so much of these acts are decided on a case-by-case basis, and we don’t have the time or expertise on which to base good judgment.  So we have to respect the individuals who are willing to step forward to do it, and whom an elected Governor has appointed.  That means treating them with respect and giving them a degree of discretion.  We get to see them again in another four years, but in the meantime we need to trust them.  That’s not naïve; that’s pragmatic.

Thanks again for your advocacy.

Yours truly,
Adam
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: pianoman9701 on March 27, 2013, 11:04:55 AM
Response I got from Senator Kline (D-Seattle) in response to the Big Game Forever form letter:

Thanks for your note.  The Natural Resources and Parks Committee just heard all four appointees.  They appeared in person, and we asked questions that reflected our own preferences.  Some committee members seemed to insist that the candidates act in the way that their own constituents would like.  I prefer to see them as individuals who have the elected Governor’s confidence (though some preceded him by 18 months or more) because they are capable of negotiating to a statewide solution, rather than because they follow slavishly the desires of one or another stakeholder group, or the ideology of “urban” or “rural” residents—as if those were monolithic blocs.  The answers of all four gentlemen convinced me that they are willing to balance the conflicting needs of urban and rural Washington, whether in regard to wolf-management, fisheries management, or hunting.  I intend to vote to confirm all four, including the one who took a different position on wolf-management than I do.

If we legislators want to draft and pass our own wildlife management plans, I suppose we could do that.  We could legislate hunting seasons, even vote on where to assign staff.  But we delegate that to an agency because so much of these acts are decided on a case-by-case basis, and we don’t have the time or expertise on which to base good judgment.  So we have to respect the individuals who are willing to step forward to do it, and whom an elected Governor has appointed.  That means treating them with respect and giving them a degree of discretion.  We get to see them again in another four years, but in the meantime we need to trust them.  That’s not naïve; that’s pragmatic.

Thanks again for your advocacy.

Yours truly,
Adam

I guess the wolf problem isn't one for his voters, so no need for him to change anything. We really need some here on the wet side to wake these idiots up. :bash: :bash:
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: bigtex on March 27, 2013, 11:08:46 AM
Kline is about as far left as you can get. Luckily not in my district.
Title: Re: Eliminate Pro-Wolf Wildlife Commissioners Now! (poll added)
Post by: snowpack on March 27, 2013, 11:14:22 AM
Kline was the one behind SB 5737--(three times over the years).  He's about as anti anything rural as I can imagine.

My senator (Hargrove) at least showed up and was awake, but he'll be getting another letter...basically for letting them be so easy on Kehne and Jennings.     
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