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Title: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: Naches Sportsman on March 31, 2016, 05:20:40 PM
To the illegal shed hunters,

Post your illegal sheds here!! Some of you are keeping the wdfw and it's eyes in the woods volunteers pretty busy this spring trying to catch you!! Why can't you people play by the rules? Pretty soon, shed hunting will be banned because of people like you who have to go into the seasonally closed areas and illegally shed hunt.

Just had to rant about the idiots that can't play fair. Only 1 more month to go for the responsible shed hunters that hit the feeding stations on may 1.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters
Post by: 2labs on March 31, 2016, 05:27:27 PM
Naches, our next Governor! :tup:
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters
Post by: Duckslayer89 on March 31, 2016, 05:49:38 PM
Naches, our next Governor! :tup:

Eyes in the woods volunteers? Sounds like people have to much time on their hands and should be out patrolling streets where people are getting robbed. Not a handful of guys stealing sheds. Woohoo...
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters
Post by: cbond3318 on March 31, 2016, 06:57:09 PM
 :dunno:
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters
Post by: Timberstalker on March 31, 2016, 07:04:19 PM
Lmao :chuckle:
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters
Post by: jackelope on March 31, 2016, 07:08:07 PM
Naches, our next Governor! :tup:

Eyes in the woods volunteers? Sounds like people have to much time on their hands and should be out patrolling streets where people are getting robbed. Not a handful of guys stealing sheds. Woohoo...

Eyes in the Woods is a WDFW volunteer program.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters
Post by: lewy on March 31, 2016, 07:10:57 PM
I hear all about eyes in the woods but are they actually catching and prosecuting anyone or just picking up illegal sheds themselves
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters
Post by: bigtex on March 31, 2016, 07:18:12 PM
I hear all about eyes in the woods but are they actually catching and prosecuting anyone or just picking up illegal sheds themselves
They don't catch and prosecute.

They observe and report.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters
Post by: lewy on March 31, 2016, 07:21:17 PM
Which should lead to what....
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters
Post by: Mudman on March 31, 2016, 07:24:19 PM
Tattletales.  Jeez.  Anyone should report serious crimes like poaching and such but when fellow hunters become so petty as to report for too little hunter orange or something I will know hunting is over..
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters
Post by: jdb on March 31, 2016, 07:45:54 PM
Those antler poachers are big time desperados!!
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters
Post by: jackmaster on March 31, 2016, 07:59:58 PM
Since when has picking up naturally shed antlers become illegal?? Crap ola, I done get how wdfw can make something like that illegal??? And I cant imagine the sort that would RAT someone out for picking up a damn shed.. I am betting its people who are pissed off cause they didn't get their lazy asses there first... RAT...
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters
Post by: MtnMuley on March 31, 2016, 08:10:06 PM
This thread is all over the place. The issue here is near the feeding stations where there is a law not allowing horn hunters in until May. This is a good common sense law that stops the people from pushing the elk all over for the greed of bone. I will bet anything this thread has nothing to do with "jealousy", but more or less to make law abiding people aware of what a select few of the law-breakers have been up to with their greed. I find it pathetic of them and if I caught them on closed ground would happily turn them in. :twocents:
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters
Post by: Dead-Eye on March 31, 2016, 08:11:43 PM
I got this from the WDFW website.

Category » Possession, Transport, Selling of Animal Parts rss button
There were 6 questions found in this category:

    Can I pick up, offer for sale, sell, purchase, or barter naturally shed antlers?

    Yes, if they are antlers of deer, elk, moose, or caribou. See WAC 232-12-071(1)(c).

    Can I pick up and keep deer or elk skulls with antlers still attached that I find in the woods?
    No. You may not possess wildlife that you did not legally harvest, and only naturally shed antlers can be collected.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters
Post by: Naches Sportsman on March 31, 2016, 08:14:00 PM
Since when has picking up naturally shed antlers become illegal?? Crap ola, I done get how wdfw can make something like that illegal??? And I cant imagine the sort that would RAT someone out for picking up a damn shed.. I am betting its people who are pissed off cause they didn't get their lazy asses there first... RAT...

It's been illegal for awhile on seasonally closed wdfw lands. Apparently people don't care or don't read the "this areas is closed March-April" sign.

It's amazing what people will do for a shed antler. People have even been caught jumping the fence at the feed lot this year in broad daylight when the wdfw were still feeding the elk.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters
Post by: Naches Sportsman on March 31, 2016, 08:17:30 PM
I got this from the WDFW website.

Category » Possession, Transport, Selling of Animal Parts rss button
There were 6 questions found in this category:

    Can I pick up, offer for sale, sell, purchase, or barter naturally shed antlers?

    Yes, if they are antlers of deer, elk, moose, or caribou. See WAC 232-12-071(1)(c).

    Can I pick up and keep deer or elk skulls with antlers still attached that I find in the woods?
    No. You may not possess wildlife that you did not legally harvest, and only naturally shed antlers can be collected.

Cannot legally trespass on WDFW seasonally closed lands this time of year which equates to talking abut illegal shed hunters. I was referring to closed March-April areas around the feed lots and on other wdfw land that's closed.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters
Post by: Naches Sportsman on March 31, 2016, 08:21:25 PM
I hear all about eyes in the woods but are they actually catching and prosecuting anyone or just picking up illegal sheds themselves
They don't catch and prosecute.

They observe and report.
Also, they set out cameras that take pictures which go directly to wdfw :tup:. Wardens have spent all day searching for people this year after getting positive hits on trail cameras.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: Bob33 on March 31, 2016, 08:36:31 PM
Several posts have been removed. Keep you comments on point, and respectful.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: Cascade on March 31, 2016, 08:41:38 PM
Not only pushing the elk in there but also the few deer that are left of that herd.


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Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: 2labs on March 31, 2016, 08:47:14 PM
Several posts have been removed. Keep you comments on point, and respectful.

Oh, good catch! Dang King county. Ya don't say. Nice
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: Duckslayer89 on March 31, 2016, 08:49:07 PM
 :yike:
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: dreamunelk on March 31, 2016, 09:19:19 PM
There is talk about starting to post some of the pictures of the slime bags for others to see.  Wonder how many claim to be ethical hunters?  Bet, a couple post on here!

Unfortunately the fine is minimal.  They run the elk just to knock antlers off.   Bet they complain about wolves.  Who is the really wasting game?   

slime ball dirt bags who should lose hunting rights and have their pictures and names plastered across the internet.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: bigtex on March 31, 2016, 09:24:31 PM
Unfortunately the fine is minimal.  They run the elk just to knock antlers off.   Bet they complain about wolves.  Who is the really wasting game?
Both offenses (entering closed WDFW lands and the unlawful collection of sheds) are misdemeanors. Penalty is up to $1,000 and 90 days in jail for each charge. Also need to remember these offenses count towards WDFW license suspensions.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: cbond3318 on March 31, 2016, 09:37:13 PM
There is talk about starting to post some of the pictures of the slime bags for others to see.  Wonder how many claim to be ethical hunters?  Bet, a couple post on here!

Unfortunately the fine is minimal.  They run the elk just to knock antlers off.   Bet they complain about wolves.  Who is the really wasting game?   

slime ball dirt bags who should lose hunting rights and have their pictures and names plastered across the internet.


Why not? All of HUNTWa has been called out as criminal idiots. Pictures would at least allow me to sleep easy at night knowing that I'm not illegally gathering sheds. Right now I'm not so sure.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: dreamunelk on March 31, 2016, 09:39:53 PM
Unfortunately the fine is minimal.  They run the elk just to knock antlers off.   Bet they complain about wolves.  Who is the really wasting game?
Both offenses (entering closed WDFW lands and the unlawful collection of sheds) are misdemeanors. Penalty is up to $1,000 and 90 days in jail for each charge. Also need to remember these offenses count towards WDFW license suspensions.

Yes, but often the judges, prosecutors don't think it such a big deal.   Averages about $200.  Need to push for legislation to make it really hurt.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: lewy on March 31, 2016, 09:40:37 PM
Hey NS, just a question. How is all of your trompsing around and "enjoying nature 7 days a week" just outside of the closed areas picking up sheds any less stressful on wintering animals?
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: Pinetar on March 31, 2016, 09:44:31 PM
Hey NS, just a question. How is all of your trompsing around and "enjoying nature 7 days a week" just outside of the closed areas picking up sheds any less stressful on wintering animals?


Now that is a very good question!!
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: dreamunelk on March 31, 2016, 09:50:25 PM
How much are you selling them for?

Make it illegal to sell sheds and it would solve a good portion to the problem.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: 270Shooter on March 31, 2016, 10:03:57 PM
There are a few people that do post on here that go into these closed areas.. not just oak creek. It is pretty frustrating for those of us that want to pick up a few horns legally and wait until may 1st to enter these closed areas when we find out that people have already been in them picking up boat loads of horns. Those of you that don't live around the feed lots don't understand. These elk do get fed in them but many of them will hang around until late March or April before leaving, that is unless someone goes into the feed lots illegally and spooks them out.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters
Post by: pashok23 on March 31, 2016, 10:09:49 PM
Naches, our next Governor! :tup:

Eyes in the woods volunteers? Sounds like people have to much time on their hands and should be out patrolling streets where people are getting robbed. Not a handful of guys stealing sheds. Woohoo...
:yeah:
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: lewy on March 31, 2016, 10:12:47 PM
There are a few people that do post on here that go into these closed areas.. not just oak creek. It is pretty frustrating for those of us that want to pick up a few horns legally and wait until may 1st to enter these closed areas when we find out that people have already been in them picking up boat loads of horns. Those of you that don't live around the feed lots don't understand. These elk do get fed in them but many of them will hang around until late March or April before leaving, that is unless someone goes into the feed lots illegally and spooks them out.

Hence my post about the "volunteers"
I completely agree with your frustrations and am not condoning the trespassing
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: Remnar on March 31, 2016, 10:45:43 PM
 WoW! Kinda blows my mind that anyone would think that having 100% public access to areas such as Oak Creek  year around would be a good idea .
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: REHJWA on March 31, 2016, 11:07:02 PM
To the ones that think this is ok...how is trespassing ok? If it were your property would you be what's the harm, or would you be posting trail cam pics trying to internet shame them or pressing charges?   :dunno:

To those doing the trespassing...how is illegal taking of large sheds any better then poaching a trophy....is it still a trophy to you knowing you broke the law (even if you don't like the law)?

As for anyone who has witnessed a game violation and not reported it, how can you complain about the problems with enforcement and lack of support for law enforcement officers.

30 pages about a Possibly raffle tag poached bull yet it's all good to break the law if there sheds....

Sure there are bigger problems out there but what is in the future for us as hunters if we don't set, adhere, and uphold to a standard? I can't believe the direction this thread took... :bash:
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: Duckslayer89 on March 31, 2016, 11:14:48 PM
To the ones that think this is ok...how is trespassing ok? If it were your property would you be what's the harm, or would you be posting trail cam pics trying to internet shame them or pressing charges?   :dunno:

To those doing the trespassing...how is illegal taking of large sheds any better then poaching a trophy....is it still a trophy to you knowing you broke the law (even if you don't like the law)?  and if it's for profit how it any better then poaching at all?

As for anyone who has witnessed a game violation and not reported it, how can you complain about the problems with enforcement and lack of support for law enforcement officers.

What is in the future for us as hunters? I can't believe the direction this thread took...

Who said it was ok to trespass?.... Just saying the eyes in the woods idea seems ridiculous to me. Oh let's get hunters to nit pick each other and rat on each other even if it was an honest mistake. Instead of informing and educating. Some people on this forum are complete hypocrites, one week saying oh I'm leaving the deer and elk alone this winter there's a lot of snow, then the next week posting pictures of deer shedding antlers.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: REHJWA on March 31, 2016, 11:18:21 PM
There are a few people that do post on here that go into these closed areas.. not just oak creek. It is pretty frustrating for those of us that want to pick up a few horns legally and wait until may 1st to enter these closed areas when we find out that people have already been in them picking up boat loads of horns. Those of you that don't live around the feed lots don't understand. These elk do get fed in them but many of them will hang around until late March or April before leaving, that is unless someone goes into the feed lots illegally and spooks them out.

This was the trespassing I was referring too....going into a closed area =trespassing :dunno:
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: Duckslayer89 on March 31, 2016, 11:23:47 PM
There are a few people that do post on here that go into these closed areas.. not just oak creek. It is pretty frustrating for those of us that want to pick up a few horns legally and wait until may 1st to enter these closed areas when we find out that people have already been in them picking up boat loads of horns. Those of you that don't live around the feed lots don't understand. These elk do get fed in them but many of them will hang around until late March or April before leaving, that is unless someone goes into the feed lots illegally and spooks them out.

This was the trespassing I was referring too....going into a closed area =trespassing :dunno:

Well I would be very interested in hearing some names of the people that trespass. That seems like an assumption. But that would piss me off big time having people going in early, I could understand why peeps are frustrated. If your out hitting the hills though don't point fingers at other guys pressuring animals.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: REHJWA on March 31, 2016, 11:26:11 PM
To the ones that think this is ok...how is trespassing ok? If it were your property would you be what's the harm, or would you be posting trail cam pics trying to internet shame them or pressing charges?   :dunno:

To those doing the trespassing...how is illegal taking of large sheds any better then poaching a trophy....is it still a trophy to you knowing you broke the law (even if you don't like the law)?  and if it's for profit how it any better then poaching at all?

As for anyone who has witnessed a game violation and not reported it, how can you complain about the problems with enforcement and lack of support for law enforcement officers.

What is in the future for us as hunters? I can't believe the direction this thread took...

Who said it was ok to trespass? Have you read through the thread even? Same bull crap liberal Hillary supporters do. OH YOU WANT TO BUILD A WALL? YOUR A RACIST.... Just saying the eyes in the woods idea seems ridiculous to me. Oh let's get hunters to nit pick each other and rat on each other even if it was an honest mistake. Instead of informing and educating. Some people on this forum are complete hypocrites, one week saying oh I'm leaving the deer and elk alone this winter there's a lot of snow, then the next week posting pictures of deer shedding antlers.

Eyes in the woods is to assist with the limited number of enforcement officials available. Most successful game  violation prosecution start by a tip from an eyewitness see the thread on Wyoming trophy mule deer poached.

As far informed and educated I would recommend leaving that to LE discretion....
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: REHJWA on March 31, 2016, 11:28:29 PM
 :
There are a few people that do post on here that go into these closed areas.. not just oak creek. It is pretty frustrating for those of us that want to pick up a few horns legally and wait until may 1st to enter these closed areas when we find out that people have already been in them picking up boat loads of horns. Those of you that don't live around the feed lots don't understand. These elk do get fed in them but many of them will hang around until late March or April before leaving, that is unless someone goes into the feed lots illegally and spooks them out.

This was the trespassing I was referring too....going into a closed area =trespassing :dunno:

Well I would be very interested in hearing some names of the people that trespass. That seems like an assumption. But that would piss me off big time having people going in early, I could understand why peeps are frustrated. If your out hitting the hills though don't point fingers at other guys pressuring animals.
:yeah:
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: zike on April 01, 2016, 03:00:54 AM
How much are you selling them for?

Make it illegal to sell sheds and it would solve a good portion to the problem.

            :yeah:
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: jackmaster on April 01, 2016, 06:19:35 AM
I am just wondering here, how would you all know if it wasn't the dude driving the feed truck at the feeding stations?? I am thinkn that if a dude was driving a feed truck and saw a few sets of sheds that he could make a few bucks by picking them up, probably would just look at it as perks of the job, I know I would!!!
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: 270Shooter on April 01, 2016, 06:24:52 AM
There are a few people that do post on here that go into these closed areas.. not just oak creek. It is pretty frustrating for those of us that want to pick up a few horns legally and wait until may 1st to enter these closed areas when we find out that people have already been in them picking up boat loads of horns. Those of you that don't live around the feed lots don't understand. These elk do get fed in them but many of them will hang around until late March or April before leaving, that is unless someone goes into the feed lots illegally and spooks them out.

This was the trespassing I was referring too....going into a closed area =trespassing :dunno:

Well I would be very interested in hearing some names of the people that trespass. That seems like an assumption. But that would piss me off big time having people going in early, I could understand why peeps are frustrated. If your out hitting the hills though don't point fingers at other guys pressuring animals.
I don't have any solid evidence to back it up so I'm not going to name anyone. It's mostly hearsay and bragging and too much background on facebook pictures. Also, I'm not ip pushing animals around in the hills. I was watching a large herd of elk from January until mid March that had about 20 bulls in it. I went out of town for a week and they are no where to be found. I decided to go look and see if I could find any sheds where they had been but all I found was a bunch of four wheeler tracks all over the hill side well off of the green dot roads that they are supposed to stay on.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: sebla on April 01, 2016, 06:49:37 AM
Eyes in the woods is an awesome idea.. The only people that are in the feeding stations early are the worthless ones that cant get a real job and have to sell horns to make a living pisses me off when I wait till may to take my kids out to find horns and there are fresh beer cans and people tracks everywhere.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: Jonathan_S on April 01, 2016, 07:29:27 AM
These threads make me happy that I am not a hardcore shed guy.  Same with the waterfowl ranting threads.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters
Post by: REHJWA on April 01, 2016, 07:56:37 AM
Which should lead to what....

If found guilty maybe service time.. toward habitat improvement....mortality studies...educating visitors to feed stations on the importance of winter range...

What would you say is just if someone trespassed against you?
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: Mfowl on April 01, 2016, 08:14:48 AM
From a guy who doesn't actively shed hunt...it sounds to me like you guys are your own worst enemy. I expect before long there will be a statewide season for shed hunting and/or profiting from it will be banned. Personally, I'd be in favor of both. I don't care about bone on the ground, just the critters it falls from!  :twocents:
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters
Post by: Dan-o on April 01, 2016, 08:31:49 AM
Since when has picking up naturally shed antlers become illegal?? Crap ola, I done get how wdfw can make something like that illegal??? And I cant imagine the sort that would RAT someone out for picking up a damn shed.. I am betting its people who are pissed off cause they didn't get their lazy asses there first... RAT...

It's been illegal for awhile on seasonally closed wdfw lands. Apparently people don't care or don't read the "this areas is closed March-April" sign.

It's amazing what people will do for a shed antler. People have even been caught jumping the fence at the feed lot this year in broad daylight when the wdfw were still feeding the elk.


 :yeah: :yeah: :yeah: :yeah: :yeah: :yeah: :yeah: :yeah:


Cheaters will screw it up for everybody.     :bash:
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: Duckslayer89 on April 01, 2016, 09:09:06 AM
These threads make me happy that I am not a hardcore shed guy.  Same with the waterfowl ranting threads.

I've been shed hunting pretty hard core, and haven't found one this year LOL. I don't know who would want to sell the sheds after working their asses off to find one.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: BULLBLASTER on April 01, 2016, 09:52:21 AM
Maybe Wdfw should do some stings with sheds that have radio transmitters in them.
I saw it on wardens on tv.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: Jonathan_S on April 01, 2016, 10:01:12 AM
Maybe Wdfw should do some stings with sheds that have radio transmitters in them.
I saw it on wardens on tv.

Or maybe a sting operation involving bees hidden inside the antler(s) so they really get stung

Perhaps obtaining some alarm pheromone from a queen bee and wiping that onto the antler(s) so anybody who takes that antler will have a swarm of angry bees in their truck. 

C'mon guys, lets get some solutions going.  BULLBLASTER and I can't do everything for you.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: LDennis24 on April 01, 2016, 10:08:29 AM
Maybe Wdfw should do some stings with sheds that have radio transmitters in them.
I saw it on wardens on tv.


I love this idea! Big gnarly one's too! Imagine the look of some jack wagons that play the part of the good guy then get nailed in a full blown lie! Priceless! I feel that under the right circumstances penalties should be harsh enough to GUARANTEE results, like say a mandatory minimum $500 dollar fine for trespassing while shed hunting or shed hunting in a closed area with forfeiture of any sheds collected and 20 hours of community service related to conservation. It's the slap on the wrist BS that keeps these guys coming back. If you go out and get caught again then take away hunting rights for a year. That should stop these busters and then you would see results. Same guys doing this sort of thing are the same guy's tossing out beer can's and driving drunk and saying " hey it was just one antler" well "hey it was just one beer". As long as they make it home afterwards they seem to think it's ok. It's sad and it just makes the next guy wanna say F-it and go out and do the same cuz everyone else is. Harsher punishment would solve a lot of these issues we all discuss on these forums yet we can't seem to up the ante to get it stopped. Wish we could.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: h20hunter on April 01, 2016, 10:12:37 AM
#shedhuntersmatter

The man trying to keep folks down
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: Duckslayer89 on April 01, 2016, 10:48:29 AM
Maybe Wdfw should do some stings with sheds that have radio transmitters in them.
I saw it on wardens on tv.

Ya that's a great use of all the money I pour into their pockets.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: BULLBLASTER on April 01, 2016, 10:51:51 AM
Maybe Wdfw should do some stings with sheds that have radio transmitters in them.
I saw it on wardens on tv.

Or maybe a sting operation involving bees hidden inside the antler(s) so they really get stung

Perhaps obtaining some alarm pheromone from a queen bee and wiping that onto the antler(s) so anybody who takes that antler will have a swarm of angry bees in their truck. 

C'mon guys, lets get some solutions going.  BULLBLASTER and I can't do everything for you.
He'll while we're at it we can set net traps under decoy sheds to catch the shed hunters. Then load them up in the net on a flat bed and parade around some location and show off the "catch"
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters
Post by: Brad Harshman on April 01, 2016, 10:56:36 AM
Since when has picking up naturally shed antlers become illegal?? Crap ola, I done get how wdfw can make something like that illegal??? And I cant imagine the sort that would RAT someone out for picking up a damn shed.. I am betting its people who are pissed off cause they didn't get their lazy asses there first... RAT...
It's already illegal in many areas including National Parks such as Mt. Rainier.  It wouldn't be hard to make it illegal on state lands either.  It would suck if they did though!
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: Jonathan_S on April 01, 2016, 11:03:27 AM
Maybe Wdfw should do some stings with sheds that have radio transmitters in them.
I saw it on wardens on tv.

Or maybe a sting operation involving bees hidden inside the antler(s) so they really get stung

Perhaps obtaining some alarm pheromone from a queen bee and wiping that onto the antler(s) so anybody who takes that antler will have a swarm of angry bees in their truck. 

C'mon guys, lets get some solutions going.  BULLBLASTER and I can't do everything for you.
He'll while we're at it we can set net traps under decoy sheds to catch the shed hunters. Then load them up in the net on a flat bed and parade around some location and show off the "catch"

I like it.   :chuckle:

Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: yum tag soup on April 01, 2016, 11:40:56 AM
Isn't shed hunting a feed station kinda like fishing a u-fish? Wonder if people are really upset with the animals being pushed around or if they're mad about someone else hitting the pond first.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: LDennis24 on April 01, 2016, 12:23:03 PM
Of course we're upset someone got there first. That's what hunting and fishing is all about isn't it? :dunno: You gotta beat the other guy to the good spot and you're clearly a better sportsman if your antlers are bigger and your fish is fatter! I can understand if this confuses some folks but the measure of a good outdoorsman is clearly in inches and pounds! :chuckle: With some people it's a sickness worse than smoking. They just can't tell themselves to quit.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 01, 2016, 12:31:15 PM
To the illegal shed hunters,

Post your illegal sheds here!! Some of you are keeping the wdfw and it's eyes in the woods volunteers pretty busy this spring trying to catch you!! Why can't you people play by the rules? Pretty soon, shed hunting will be banned because of people like you who have to go into the seasonally closed areas and illegally shed hunt.

Just had to rant about the idiots that can't play fair. Only 1 more month to go for the responsible shed hunters that hit the feeding stations on may 1.

Permits are only a couple of years away. Mark my words.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: Duckslayer89 on April 01, 2016, 12:35:18 PM
To the illegal shed hunters,

Post your illegal sheds here!! Some of you are keeping the wdfw and it's eyes in the woods volunteers pretty busy this spring trying to catch you!! Why can't you people play by the rules? Pretty soon, shed hunting will be banned because of people like you who have to go into the seasonally closed areas and illegally shed hunt.

Just had to rant about the idiots that can't play fair. Only 1 more month to go for the responsible shed hunters that hit the feeding stations on may 1.

Permits are only a couple of years away. Mark my words.

Great for WDFW. Create a permit system for people to apply for different units to shed hunt. Get all that money and money for people busted finding them out hiking.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: Fishhuntmike on April 01, 2016, 12:43:09 PM
Should I get my child in on this new antler point point system.  I'm very concerned about future point creep.  Heaven forbid, I'm going to loose sleep over this one.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: Duckslayer89 on April 01, 2016, 12:47:48 PM
Should I get my child in on this new antler point point system.  I'm very concerned about future point creep.  Heaven forbid, I'm going to loose sleep over this one.

Ya and then for all the EYES IN THE WOODS BOYS they will get extra points for turning in guys out shed hunting without a permit.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: jkthomps on April 01, 2016, 01:08:09 PM
(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160401/5eadff91c2fb8a844a3bc0f948052d7e.jpg)

This photo is from the MDF State Chair. The point is the areas are closed.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: MADMAX on April 01, 2016, 01:16:21 PM
pretty cut and dry if you ask me

I'm waiting for 5/1 to do those areas but have been to others that have no restriction
dont see an issue with that myself
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: MtnMuley on April 01, 2016, 02:53:50 PM
Exactly MADMAX.

What's your beef with Eyes in the Woods, Duck89? DFW putting on volunteer classes so those in the woods can notice wrong doings and and better educated on how to report them. :dunno: One of the brightest ideas they've had in quite a while if you ask me. They admit they lack in enforcement and are happily asking for fellow hunters and outdoors people to help them out. Also, if you think you can receive bonus points for turning illegal fence jumpers in, then I've probably wasted my time typing this.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: yum tag soup on April 01, 2016, 02:57:38 PM
Of course we're upset someone got there first. That's what hunting and fishing is all about isn't it? :dunno: You gotta beat the other guy to the good spot and you're clearly a better sportsman if your antlers are bigger and your fish is fatter! I can understand if this confuses some folks but the measure of a good outdoorsman is clearly in inches and pounds! :chuckle: With some people it's a sickness worse than smoking. They just can't tell themselves to quit.
I see what u did there
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: fishwhackin on April 01, 2016, 04:22:39 PM
I always figured that you had to get out early to get them before the poachers got them?  With that being said, a majority of people including us hunters require or need more education on the purpose of these closed lands and should probably apply it to other lands that aren't closed also.  It is mostly in part for protection of the elk following the rut/hunting season followed by winter.  If you are hiking on open land at this same time, a little common sense would go a long way.  If the winter has been rough and the elk are needing the recooperation time undisturbed then give them the respect they deserve and leave them alone.  I'm not saying that you can't go out on public land or your own private land this time of year, just don't push the animals intentionally.  If you see them, turn around or go around them.  If it was a winter in your area like the one before last in the cascades with minimal snow, then feel free to bump them a little more in your adventures.  If it is like this year where the snowfall is greater than average, then try to stay away from them.  It is out of respect for the animals that you are wanting to pursue.  I am sure it is more fun to get to put your hands on the antlers while still attached to the animal the following fall/winter after harvest than it is to find them on a winter kill and think of how much you wish you had a chance to tag that animal during the season.  I love shed antlers as much as the next guy but it is not in my mind worth causing the animal stress to the point that it does not survive until the next hunting season.  By the way, the opening comment was sarcasm.  Yes, I support eyes in the woods.  They are like a lock and help keep us honest people honest.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: Duckslayer89 on April 01, 2016, 04:38:47 PM
Exactly MADMAX.

What's your beef with Eyes in the Woods, Duck89? DFW putting on volunteer classes so those in the woods can notice wrong doings and and better educated on how to report them. :dunno: One of the brightest ideas they've had in quite a while if you ask me. They admit they lack in enforcement and are happily asking for fellow hunters and outdoors people to help them out. Also, if you think you can receive bonus points for turning illegal fence jumpers in, then I've probably wasted my time typing this.

There's to many do gooders out trying to tell everyone else what they are doing wrong. Our opinions differ in lack of enforcement. I see game wardens up in the area I like to mountain bike ride/shed hunt about every other time I'm up there. Stop you for no reason whatsoever and puff their chests out. Only to be disappointed that I have a CWP, seatbelt on, headlights on, and rifle unloaded. So of course they feel they have to remind me 10x not to let my extremely well behaved lab run elk because they can't find anything else. Ok ok ok I say have a nice day thanks for ruining my relaxing afternoon. In Idaho where I've hunted all around the Church, 10a and 10, I've never even seen a game warden or been stopped. Last time I was stopped in WA, I was literally driving along some remote logging road listening to music and the game warden was parked in the middle of the road sitting there doing nothing.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: jackelope on April 01, 2016, 05:20:04 PM
I suspect that half of the people who don't agree with closed areas this time of year don't understand why they're closed and/or don't have enough respect for the animals to care.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: 270Shooter on April 01, 2016, 05:33:29 PM
I suspect that half of the people who don't agree with closed areas this time of year don't understand why they're closed and/or don't have enough respect for the animals to care.
quite honestly I think they know why the areas are closed but don't have enough respect for the animals. They also see it as an opportunity to go pick up a lot of horns with no other competition. Like I say it happens in every feed station, not just oak creek.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: jackelope on April 01, 2016, 05:47:55 PM
I suspect that half of the people who don't agree with closed areas this time of year don't understand why they're closed and/or don't have enough respect for the animals to care.
quite honestly I think they know why the areas are closed but don't have enough respect for the animals. They also see it as an opportunity to go pick up a lot of horns with no other competition. Like I say it happens in every feed station, not just oak creek.

You're probably right.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: shedkid on April 01, 2016, 07:38:21 PM
Just so everyone knows I have dibs on this one and I have been training day after day to be the first one to it!! :tup: :chuckle:  :chuckle:
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: yum tag soup on April 01, 2016, 08:00:11 PM
I'm not saying its OK, because its not but unless these people are running the animals down with 4wheelers or trucks, maybe dogs let's not call it something its not. They are trespassing and should be dealt with. I jumped a herd of elk last weekend while looking for sheds. Crazy thing is that none of them ran up hill 10 miles into snow and none of them dropped dead. They went about 400 yards and I watched as some actually laid back down.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: fastdam on April 01, 2016, 09:43:45 PM
Oh so now all of a sudden all the elk die when they see people walking nearby? You people are a joke and the reason our country is turning into a giant prison camp. It's a shame the way people lick the boots of their master that robs them daily and then turns the funds into new restrictions.   I do wonder how elk ever made it this far in time, considering the closed areas have only been around for a decade or two.  It's about controlling humans, not elk.   You guys sound like a bunch of slaves. Seriously.
 Wildlife harassment laws could deal with anyone pressuring elk and still leave PUBLIC LANDS open for coyote hunters, hikers and nature lovers who are the PUBLIC.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: Duckslayer89 on April 01, 2016, 09:49:02 PM
Oh so now all of a sudden all the elk die when they see people walking nearby? You people are a joke and the reason our country is turning into a giant prison camp. It's a shame the way people lick the boots of their master that robs them daily and then turns the funds into new restrictions.   I do wonder how elk ever made it this far in time, considering the closed areas have only been around for a decade or two.  It's about controlling humans, not elk.   You guys sound like a bunch of slaves. Seriously.
 Wildlife harassment laws could deal with anyone pressuring elk and still leave PUBLIC LANDS open for coyote hunters, hikers and nature lovers who are the PUBLIC.

Ya I've been trying to explain this to everyone. THE SAME PEOPLE who call for smaller government in threads are calling for more enforcement and regulations in other threads. Make up your minds which side your on
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: fastdam on April 01, 2016, 10:02:47 PM
Oh so now all of a sudden all the elk die when they see people walking nearby? You people are a joke and the reason our country is turning into a giant prison camp. It's a shame the way people lick the boots of their master that robs them daily and then turns the funds into new restrictions.   I do wonder how elk ever made it this far in time, considering the closed areas have only been around for a decade or two.  It's about controlling humans, not elk.   You guys sound like a bunch of slaves. Seriously.
 Wildlife harassment laws could deal with anyone pressuring elk and still leave PUBLIC LANDS open for coyote hunters, hikers and nature lovers who are the PUBLIC.

Ya I've been trying to explain this to everyone. THE SAME PEOPLE who call for smaller government in threads are calling for more enforcement and regulations in other threads. Make up your minds which side your on




it's very discouraging  to see so many grown men submit and grovel at the hand of a bunch of CROOKS. And to buy into their BS propaganda .   "It's for the safety of the...... _______ ". 

Fill in the blank
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: TheHunt on April 01, 2016, 10:08:39 PM
There is big money in sheds.   16 - 18 dollars per pound a good thick shed will put some good cash in your pocket.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: jackelope on April 01, 2016, 10:15:07 PM
Oh so now all of a sudden all the elk die when they see people walking nearby? You people are a joke and the reason our country is turning into a giant prison camp. It's a shame the way people lick the boots of their master that robs them daily and then turns the funds into new restrictions.   I do wonder how elk ever made it this far in time, considering the closed areas have only been around for a decade or two.  It's about controlling humans, not elk.   You guys sound like a bunch of slaves. Seriously.
 Wildlife harassment laws could deal with anyone pressuring elk and still leave PUBLIC LANDS open for coyote hunters, hikers and nature lovers who are the PUBLIC.

Ok. Whatever.
Title: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: jackelope on April 01, 2016, 10:19:57 PM
Oh so now all of a sudden all the elk die when they see people walking nearby? You people are a joke and the reason our country is turning into a giant prison camp. It's a shame the way people lick the boots of their master that robs them daily and then turns the funds into new restrictions.   I do wonder how elk ever made it this far in time, considering the closed areas have only been around for a decade or two.  It's about controlling humans, not elk.   You guys sound like a bunch of slaves. Seriously.
 Wildlife harassment laws could deal with anyone pressuring elk and still leave PUBLIC LANDS open for coyote hunters, hikers and nature lovers who are the PUBLIC.

Ya I've been trying to explain this to everyone. THE SAME PEOPLE who call for smaller government in threads are calling for more enforcement and regulations in other threads. Make up your minds which side your on




it's very discouraging  to see so many grown men submit and grovel at the hand of a bunch of CROOKS. And to buy into their BS propaganda .   "It's for the safety of the...... _______ ". 

Fill in the blank

Rut
Hunting season
Winter
At that point they're lucky to have survived. Throw in a feed lot, a massive concentration of elk with $16-18 a pound brown gold stuck to their heads that's about to fall on the ground. Throw in a bunch of greedy pukes on snow machines and quads running them all over the countryside hoping to knock the horns off their heads. If you think it doesn't happen you're blind. Throw in some native hunters hunting them almost year round. They need a break at some point. If you think it's about government control, you're blind and/or you  have no care for the animals and no care for the future of hunting. Don't blame it on government control. Blame it on the greed of the people who won't leave the animals alone to recover from winter and rut and hunting seasons and snow machines and native hunters.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: REHJWA on April 01, 2016, 10:25:24 PM
Exactly MADMAX.

What's your beef with Eyes in the Woods, Duck89? DFW putting on volunteer classes so those in the woods can notice wrong doings and and better educated on how to report them. :dunno: One of the brightest ideas they've had in quite a while if you ask me. They admit they lack in enforcement and are happily asking for fellow hunters and outdoors people to help them out. Also, if you think you can receive bonus points for turning illegal fence jumpers in, then I've probably wasted my time typing this.

There's to many do gooders out trying to tell everyone else what they are doing wrong. Our opinions differ in lack of enforcement. I see game wardens up in the area I like to mountain bike ride/shed hunt about every other time I'm up there. Stop you for no reason whatsoever and puff their chests out. Only to be disappointed that I have a CWP, seatbelt on, headlights on, and rifle unloaded. So of course they feel they have to remind me 10x not to let my extremely well behaved lab run elk because they can't find anything else. Ok ok ok I say have a nice day thanks for ruining my relaxing afternoon. In Idaho where I've hunted all around the Church, 10a and 10, I've never even seen a game warden or been stopped. Last time I was stopped in WA, I was literally driving along some remote logging road listening to music and the game warden was parked in the middle of the road sitting there doing nothing.

Part of the training for eyes in the woods stresses not telling someone they are wrong, but to let LE handle it.

I would be willing to bet LE has a reason for being in that area so frequently...

Besides I love getting checked and watching the wind go out of there sails....

I don't know about you but on a remote logging road i would be a little bowed up and on guard making stops knowing that if there is someone breaking the law they may try to eliminate me as a witness.

Hope you get plenty of opportunities to enjoy you tunes and time in the woods.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: emac on April 01, 2016, 10:25:37 PM
Oh so now all of a sudden all the elk die when they see people walking nearby? You people are a joke and the reason our country is turning into a giant prison camp. It's a shame the way people lick the boots of their master that robs them daily and then turns the funds into new restrictions.   I do wonder how elk ever made it this far in time, considering the closed areas have only been around for a decade or two.  It's about controlling humans, not elk.   You guys sound like a bunch of slaves. Seriously.
 Wildlife harassment laws could deal with anyone pressuring elk and still leave PUBLIC LANDS open for coyote hunters, hikers and nature lovers who are the PUBLIC.

Ya I've been trying to explain this to everyone. THE SAME PEOPLE who call for smaller government in threads are calling for more enforcement and regulations in other threads. Make up your minds which side your on




it's very discouraging  to see so many grown men submit and grovel at the hand of a bunch of CROOKS. And to buy into their BS propaganda .   "It's for the safety of the...... _______ ". 

Fill in the blank

Rut
Hunting season
Winter
At that point they're lucky to have survived. Throw in a feed lot, a massive concentration of elk with $16-18 a pound brown gold stuck to their heads that's about to fall on the ground. Throw in a bunch of greedy pukes on snow machines and quads running them all over the countryside hoping to knock the horns off their heads. If you think it doesn't happen you're blind. Throw in some native hunters hunting them almost year round. They need a break at some point. If you think it's about government control, you're blind and/or you  have no care for the animals and no care for the future of hunting. Don't blame it on government control. Blame it on the greed of the people who won't leave the animals alone to recover from winter and rut and hunting seasons and snow machines and native hunters.
Well said

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Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: LDennis24 on April 01, 2016, 10:52:33 PM
Wow, this dam guy is smart, smartest "dam" guy on this website I'll bet. Do you really think in all your superior knowledge that just letting everyone run over the hill's in area's like Oak Creek would result in a favorable outcome for all those wintering elk? REALLY!? It's strictly about controlling people? I'm quite certain that without these area's being around doing what they do you probably wouldn't even have the opportunity to see an elk first hand. They would have been gone long ago. Educate yourself...
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: jackelope on April 01, 2016, 11:06:48 PM
Wow, this dam guy is smart, smartest "dam" guy on this website I'll bet. Do you really think in all your superior knowledge that just letting everyone run over the hill's in area's like Oak Creek would result in a favorable outcome for all those wintering elk? REALLY!? It's strictly about controlling people? I'm quite certain that without these area's being around doing what they do you probably wouldn't even have the opportunity to see an elk first hand. They would have been gone long ago. Educate yourself...

This guy gets it. Well done.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: jackelope on April 01, 2016, 11:17:00 PM
Just saw this post on Facebook and it seems fitting for this conversation.

(http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160402/642113b5732e11bf9bb42c70be71e3ff.jpg)
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: PlateauNDN on April 02, 2016, 12:00:34 AM
Oh so now all of a sudden all the elk die when they see people walking nearby? You people are a joke and the reason our country is turning into a giant prison camp. It's a shame the way people lick the boots of their master that robs them daily and then turns the funds into new restrictions.   I do wonder how elk ever made it this far in time, considering the closed areas have only been around for a decade or two.  It's about controlling humans, not elk.   You guys sound like a bunch of slaves. Seriously.
 Wildlife harassment laws could deal with anyone pressuring elk and still leave PUBLIC LANDS open for coyote hunters, hikers and nature lovers who are the PUBLIC.

Ya I've been trying to explain this to everyone. THE SAME PEOPLE who call for smaller government in threads are calling for more enforcement and regulations in other threads. Make up your minds which side your on




it's very discouraging  to see so many grown men submit and grovel at the hand of a bunch of CROOKS. And to buy into their BS propaganda .   "It's for the safety of the...... _______ ". 

Fill in the blank

Rut
Hunting season
Winter
At that point they're lucky to have survived. Throw in a feed lot, a massive concentration of elk with $16-18 a pound brown gold stuck to their heads that's about to fall on the ground. Throw in a bunch of greedy pukes on snow machines and quads running them all over the countryside hoping to knock the horns off their heads. If you think it doesn't happen you're blind. Throw in some native hunters hunting them almost year round. They need a break at some point. If you think it's about government control, you're blind and/or you  have no care for the animals and no care for the future of hunting. Don't blame it on government control. Blame it on the greed of the people who won't leave the animals alone to recover from winter and rut and hunting seasons and snow machines and poachers and native hunters.

Adjusted it for you as natives are not the only ones out killing.  I agree, this would cause a lot of issues especially who decides criteria. :dunno:
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: jackelope on April 02, 2016, 12:17:51 AM
Oh so now all of a sudden all the elk die when they see people walking nearby? You people are a joke and the reason our country is turning into a giant prison camp. It's a shame the way people lick the boots of their master that robs them daily and then turns the funds into new restrictions.   I do wonder how elk ever made it this far in time, considering the closed areas have only been around for a decade or two.  It's about controlling humans, not elk.   You guys sound like a bunch of slaves. Seriously.
 Wildlife harassment laws could deal with anyone pressuring elk and still leave PUBLIC LANDS open for coyote hunters, hikers and nature lovers who are the PUBLIC.

Ya I've been trying to explain this to everyone. THE SAME PEOPLE who call for smaller government in threads are calling for more enforcement and regulations in other threads. Make up your minds which side your on




it's very discouraging  to see so many grown men submit and grovel at the hand of a bunch of CROOKS. And to buy into their BS propaganda .   "It's for the safety of the...... _______ ". 

Fill in the blank

Rut
Hunting season
Winter
At that point they're lucky to have survived. Throw in a feed lot, a massive concentration of elk with $16-18 a pound brown gold stuck to their heads that's about to fall on the ground. Throw in a bunch of greedy pukes on snow machines and quads running them all over the countryside hoping to knock the horns off their heads. If you think it doesn't happen you're blind. Throw in some native hunters hunting them almost year round. They need a break at some point. If you think it's about government control, you're blind and/or you  have no care for the animals and no care for the future of hunting. Don't blame it on government control. Blame it on the greed of the people who won't leave the animals alone to recover from winter and rut and hunting seasons and snow machines and poachers and native hunters.

Adjusted it for you as natives are not the only ones out killing.  I agree, this would cause a lot of issues especially who decides criteria. :dunno:


Point taken. Thank you, I missed that one.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: 270Shooter on April 02, 2016, 01:30:45 AM
This is no different than some one going into a unit to hunt deer that doesn't open until a later date and killing one before everyone else that follows the law gets the chance.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: fishwhackin on April 02, 2016, 06:26:35 AM
I agree with the hunting early comparison/comment with the exception that I feel shed hunting early in closed areas has a bigger impact due to time of year (animal's current health/strength) and has the ability to affect more animals (Herded up or located in smaller area due to snow/feeding).
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: fastdam on April 02, 2016, 08:18:19 AM
Like I said, there are other laws on the books to deal with people pressuring elk. I live right next door to some of these closed areas and they are foot access only year round.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: Duckslayer89 on April 02, 2016, 08:25:51 PM
On another note, I saw a nice bull today with both antlers still while out biking around and also one with about 12 inches of fresh velvet. Saw 4 deer I swear was a bachelor group of bucks they were all huge bodied with flat heads and no yearling fawns around like almost all the doe I have seen have. Maybe they haven't began growing antlers yet??
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 03, 2016, 02:56:26 PM
This is no different than some one going into a unit to hunt deer that doesn't open until a later date and killing one before everyone else that follows the law gets the chance.

Yes, it's different. Poaching deer, and "poaching" antlers are two completely different things. Don't get me wrong: I don't support either.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: 270Shooter on April 03, 2016, 04:49:15 PM
This is no different than some one going into a unit to hunt deer that doesn't open until a later date and killing one before everyone else that follows the law gets the chance.

Yes, it's different. Poaching deer, and "poaching" antlers are two completely different things. Don't get me wrong: I don't support either.
they are the same in that they both take opportunity away from the general law abiding hunting/ outdoorsmen.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 03, 2016, 05:57:30 PM
This is no different than some one going into a unit to hunt deer that doesn't open until a later date and killing one before everyone else that follows the law gets the chance.

Yes, it's different. Poaching deer, and "poaching" antlers are two completely different things. Don't get me wrong: I don't support either.
they are the same in that they both take opportunity away from the general law abiding hunting/ outdoorsmen.
In that way, they are the same.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: Maverick on April 05, 2016, 10:53:03 AM
I heard somewhere that Joe watt had caught a couple guys with transmitters on antlers. Not sure why oak creek and other places wouldn't do it too. The winter ranges in Montana do it too. I've heard of people hiking and even on horses already being caught in oak creek and more on cameras. There's also a rumor of someone pulling 100 antlers out of there this year. That one seems a little far fetched because of the amount of bulls still packing. With all the antler poaching going on this year Im thinking ill be at Joe watt this year. Those that know me know that I put in a lot of miles in the spring shed hunting. What eyes in the woods is trying to do I fully support. The areas are closed therefore its wrong and illegal for people to be there. I enjoy the areas that open on the first. Play by the rules or you should be fined severely.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: Gringo31 on April 05, 2016, 01:01:22 PM
How about people just follow the law?


If you don't like the law, see if you can get it changed.  Feel free to fight against current or future laws.....but have respect for the LAW.  We all want a civil society.



OBEY THE LAW..... :chuckle:
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: jdb on April 05, 2016, 01:59:26 PM
This country was founded by law breakers breaking the law. And history is full for heroic law breakers. Maybe these antler poachers see themselves as modern day William Wallace or Francis Marion
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: DOUBLELUNG on April 05, 2016, 02:59:51 PM
This country was founded by law breakers breaking the law. And history is full for heroic law breakers. Maybe these antler poachers see themselves as modern day William Wallace or Francis Marion
Or Bona Bunphoath
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: Maverick on April 05, 2016, 03:33:13 PM
This country was founded by law breakers breaking the law. And history is full for heroic law breakers. Maybe these antler poachers see themselves as modern day William Wallace or Francis Marion

You dont live to far away from a feed station do you?
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: jdb on April 05, 2016, 03:42:07 PM
I live 15 minutes from one and not more than 30 minutes from 4. Why?
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: huntandjeep on April 05, 2016, 05:38:31 PM
I heard somewhere that Joe watt had caught a couple guys with transmitters on antlers. Not sure why oak creek and other places wouldn't do it too. The winter ranges in Montana do it too. I've heard of people hiking and even on horses already being caught in oak creek and more on cameras. There's also a rumor of someone pulling 100 antlers out of there this year. That one seems a little far fetched because of the amount of bulls still packing. With all the antler poaching going on this year Im thinking ill be at Joe watt this year. Those that know me know that I put in a lot of miles in the spring shed hunting. What eyes in the woods is trying to do I fully support. The areas are closed therefore its wrong and illegal for people to be there. I enjoy the areas that open on the first. Play by the rules or you should be fined severely.
Pretty pure the 100 antlers was a couple years ago. They drove in from the Rattlesnake side, went up to the top and came out the main gate at Oak creek @ 8:00 am. They were fined $100 per shed. There's also been a knucklehead on a tracked quad all around the. Nile, Gold Creek , Bald Mt area.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: Pinetar on April 05, 2016, 05:46:36 PM
I heard somewhere that Joe watt had caught a couple guys with transmitters on antlers. Not sure why oak creek and other places wouldn't do it too. The winter ranges in Montana do it too. I've heard of people hiking and even on horses already being caught in oak creek and more on cameras. There's also a rumor of someone pulling 100 antlers out of there this year. That one seems a little far fetched because of the amount of bulls still packing. With all the antler poaching going on this year Im thinking ill be at Joe watt this year. Those that know me know that I put in a lot of miles in the spring shed hunting. What eyes in the woods is trying to do I fully support. The areas are closed therefore its wrong and illegal for people to be there. I enjoy the areas that open on the first. Play by the rules or you should be fined severely.
Pretty pure the 100 antlers was a couple years ago. They drove in from the Rattlesnake side, went up to the top and came out the main gate at Oak creek @ 8:00 am. They were fined $100 per shed. There's also been a knucklehead on a tracked quad all around the. Nile, Gold Creek , Bald Mt area.

Don't know this area but it is closed to trespass as well??
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: GotElk? on April 05, 2016, 06:44:58 PM
Seeing it on the westside too. Down at St Helens I've been following the same lady on social media for years who goes in with her "group and pulls sheds by the tens out of the closed area. I ran into some older gentlemen who said it isn't even worth it to go in their on May 1st because it is so picked over. Not trying to sound like a whined but I think it's B.S. that they ruin it for the rest of the people, push the elk out and DFW does Nadda. Pass them driving on 504 all the time and they stop and question me in the legal zone but won't drive down and confront the illegals.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: huntandjeep on April 05, 2016, 06:53:15 PM
I heard somewhere that Joe watt had caught a couple guys with transmitters on antlers. Not sure why oak creek and other places wouldn't do it too. The winter ranges in Montana do it too. I've heard of people hiking and even on horses already being caught in oak creek and more on cameras. There's also a rumor of someone pulling 100 antlers out of there this year. That one seems a little far fetched because of the amount of bulls still packing. With all the antler poaching going on this year Im thinking ill be at Joe watt this year. Those that know me know that I put in a lot of miles in the spring shed hunting. What eyes in the woods is trying to do I fully support. The areas are closed therefore its wrong and illegal for people to be there. I enjoy the areas that open on the first. Play by the rules or you should be fined severely.
Pretty pure the 100 antlers was a couple years ago. They drove in from the Rattlesnake side, went up to the top and came out the main gate at Oak creek @ 8:00 am. They were fined $100 per shed. There's also been a knucklehead on a tracked quad all around the. Nile, Gold Creek , Bald Mt area.

There's been guys pulling sheds out of closed area at oak creek by foot, atv's and horses this year. Been hearing of people going into wenas from the 1701 side as well.

Also seen where that idiot was driving all over with tracks. He drove right over the berm in the nile.
You want the name of the tracked ATV's owner :chuckle: . Hes a Nile local with a couple cabins up there.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: huntandjeep on April 05, 2016, 06:55:22 PM
I heard somewhere that Joe watt had caught a couple guys with transmitters on antlers. Not sure why oak creek and other places wouldn't do it too. The winter ranges in Montana do it too. I've heard of people hiking and even on horses already being caught in oak creek and more on cameras. There's also a rumor of someone pulling 100 antlers out of there this year. That one seems a little far fetched because of the amount of bulls still packing. With all the antler poaching going on this year Im thinking ill be at Joe watt this year. Those that know me know that I put in a lot of miles in the spring shed hunting. What eyes in the woods is trying to do I fully support. The areas are closed therefore its wrong and illegal for people to be there. I enjoy the areas that open on the first. Play by the rules or you should be fined severely.
Pretty pure the 100 antlers was a couple years ago. They drove in from the Rattlesnake side, went up to the top and came out the main gate at Oak creek @ 8:00 am. They were fined $100 per shed. There's also been a knucklehead on a tracked quad all around the. Nile, Gold Creek , Bald Mt area.

Don't know this area but it is closed to trespass as well??
No they are not closed areas. The tracks are also nowhere near a road , all cross country.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: Pinetar on April 05, 2016, 07:07:47 PM
Is it forest service
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: huntandjeep on April 05, 2016, 07:17:34 PM
Is it forest service
I believe so but not 100℅ sure
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: Pinetar on April 05, 2016, 07:21:45 PM
Just curious w/o drama, what is he doing that is illegal? And what is he doing that he is being called an idiot for?
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: huntandjeep on April 05, 2016, 07:54:40 PM
Just curious w/o drama, what is he doing that is illegal? And what is he doing that he is being called an idiot for?
Driving cross country  ( as in no ATV trails )  just wherever he feels the need to drive.  And I called him a knucklehead not an idiot.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: Pinetar on April 05, 2016, 08:10:42 PM
huntandjeep - I wasn't pointing it towards you. Thanks for answering my questions as I'm not familiar with this area.

A tracked 4 wheeler is legal driving across country on the snow, in fact it is illegal to drive them on the trails that are groomed unless you own a cabin up in the hills and you can get a permit from the forest service.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: huntandjeep on April 05, 2016, 08:29:00 PM
huntandjeep - I wasn't pointing it towards you. Thanks for answering my questions as I'm not familiar with this area.

A tracked 4 wheeler is legal driving across country on the snow, in fact it is illegal to drive them on the trails that are groomed unless you own a cabin up in the hills and you can get a permit from the forest service.
I was just kidding about the knucklehead commit , didn't take it personal. I realize you can drive tracked rigs ON snow. Problem I'm seeing is he's driving it over snow , mud ,grass , sagebrush where ever he wants to drive it he does. If I had a set of tracks for my Jeep or my quad could I go where ever I pleased ?
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: Pinetar on April 05, 2016, 08:39:06 PM
huntandjeep - I wasn't pointing it towards you. Thanks for answering my questions as I'm not familiar with this area.

A tracked 4 wheeler is legal driving across country on the snow, in fact it is illegal to drive them on the trails that are groomed unless you own a cabin up in the hills and you can get a permit from the forest service.
I was just kidding about the knucklehead commit , didn't take it personal. I realize you can drive tracked rigs ON snow. Problem I'm seeing is he's driving it over snow , mud ,grass , sagebrush where ever he wants to drive it he does. If I had a set of tracks for my Jeep or my quad could I go where ever I pleased ?

Nope he should keep it on the snow or trails/roads
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: jmscon on April 05, 2016, 10:55:57 PM
These laws ARE in place to control people! If we don't control each other then there won't be anything left (plains buffalo comes to mind). And if people can't control themselves then there will be harsher laws in place, making it harder for law abiding hunters to go out and do what they enjoy doing.

Don't be afraid of being a rat. I don't have a problem turning someone in and it isn't for the extra points. They are essentially stealing from me too. The poacher, if caught, will pay the fine. But the ones who don't get caught are the ones that are going to ruin it for you and me.

Taking the Eyes In The Woods program is a requirement for completing the Master Hunter course and the wardens need all the help they can get! Under paid, under staffed and most people they confront have loaded firearms on them! Having people out there who are educated in getting more details to the authorities and can help catch some of these a-holes is invaluable!

 :twocents:
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: Duckslayer89 on April 06, 2016, 12:14:51 AM
These laws ARE in place to control people! If we don't control each other then there won't be anything left (plains buffalo comes to mind). And if people can't control themselves then there will be harsher laws in place, making it harder for law abiding hunters to go out and do what they enjoy doing.

Don't be afraid of being a rat. I don't have a problem turning someone in and it isn't for the extra points. They are essentially stealing from me too. The poacher, if caught, will pay the fine. But the ones who don't get caught are the ones that are going to ruin it for you and me.

Taking the Eyes In The Woods program is a requirement for completing the Master Hunter course and the wardens need all the help they can get! Under paid, under staffed and most people they confront have loaded firearms on them! Having people out there who are educated in getting more details to the authorities and can help catch some of these a-holes is invaluable!

 :twocents:

A "master hunter" at my brothers work got busted for shooting a cow and his bullet went through killing another cow that ran over a hill and died. He got turned in and prosecuted. Some master hunter. That's something a 10 year old kid would understand. Don't shoot an animal with another one behind it. Duhhhhhh
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: bearpaw on April 06, 2016, 09:18:57 AM
I can understand being upset at horn poachers going in the closed areas (feeding areas), those guys are cheating everyone else and unless curtailed it will eventually cause more regulations to be forced upon those that obey the law. I fully support strengthening laws and punishment around the feeding areas.

However, these topics always seem to gravitate towards some folks wanting a shed season statewide. I would like to see the law enforced in the closed areas rather than additional laws imposed upon the rest of us. I do not agree with widespread closure (a shed season) outside feeding areas that prevents everyone from shed hunting until said shed season opens.

A pack of wolves, coyotes, or a mountain lion repeatedly chasing elk and deer in life and death situations where only the animals in the best shape survive causes far more stress on deer and elk than shed hunters who might bump the animals a couple hundred yards. This state welcomes more predators with open arms, there is your culprit causing harm to wintering animals. If you really want to save some deer and elk get out there and kill more coyotes and cougar. But please don't try to close the whole state to shed hunting when that is not really a significant factor as compared to stress caused from predators.

(please read the line in my signature)
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 06, 2016, 09:24:22 AM
 :yeah: I think it's unfortunate that people invite the government to further restrict us, but it's true.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: h20hunter on April 06, 2016, 09:33:09 AM
Like Dale said, further abuse will lead to more restrictions.  Don't want public land closures, don't litter. Don't want shed restrictions,  don't break the laws.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: jmscon on April 06, 2016, 09:37:21 AM

 :yeah:

And someone ratted him out, good riddance! There will always be some bad apples ruining it for the rest of us! If that guy did shoot two animals and got busted he will never be able to be a Master Hunter again.

These animals are stressed out from not eating their normal diet, or not eating much at all. Chasing them with ATVs, snow machines, etc. can kill them! Most cows and does are pregnant with even more stress on their body. That's why these areas are closed and in my opinion all wildlife areas should be closed until Jan 1st - May 1st!

IMO there aren't many things that put more of a downer on my day hunting than walking back for miles on a closed logging road and having a bunch of guys drive by on their ATVs! Just turn around and walk out. No enforcement, people will do whatever they want.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: bearpaw on April 06, 2016, 09:46:35 AM
ATV's are a prime example of what I am talking about. A few people abusing them have caused significant portions of the state and national forests to be totally closed to ATV use except for short sections of road in some areas. There's really no valid reason an ATV should not be legal to drive on any forest road open to any other motorized travel, yet abuse by a few have caused loss of opportunity to everyone.

To shed hunters in general, in your quest to stop horn poachers who are cheating in feeding areas please don't be so extreme as to cause a similar loss to all horn hunters across the state!
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 06, 2016, 09:53:04 AM
ATV's are a prime example of what I am talking about. A few people abusing them have caused significant portions of the state and national forests to be totally closed to ATV use except for short sections of road in some areas. There's really no valid reason an ATV should not be legal to drive on any forest road open to any other motorized travel, yet abuse by a few have caused loss of opportunity to everyone.

To shed hunters in general, in your quest to stop horn poachers who are cheating in feeding areas please don't be so extreme as to cause a similar loss to all horn hunters across the state!

And unfortunately, the heavier restrictions only affect the people who obey the law, not the guys who didn't care from the start. They still ride wherever they want. Sound familiar?  :bash:
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: kirkl on April 06, 2016, 01:08:44 PM
Are there any maps that show the boundaries of these feeding stations?
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: Naches Sportsman on April 06, 2016, 01:15:58 PM
Are there any maps that show the boundaries of these feeding stations?

They show  the boundaries on the green dot road maps. Can get them at the wdfw office on 24th ave.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: kirkl on April 06, 2016, 01:20:24 PM
it shows the closed off wintering areas on the green dot road maps?
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: Cascade on April 06, 2016, 02:03:17 PM
it shows the closed off wintering areas on the green dot road maps?

Yep.

Do they still print 2 seperate maps, one for oak creek and one for clemens/wenas?
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: kentrek on April 06, 2016, 02:04:06 PM
Seeing it on the westside too. Down at St Helens I've been following the same lady on social media for years who goes in with her "group and pulls sheds by the tens out of the closed area. I ran into some older gentlemen who said it isn't even worth it to go in their on May 1st because it is so picked over. Not trying to sound like a whined but I think it's B.S. that they ruin it for the rest of the people, push the elk out and DFW does Nadda. Pass them driving on 504 all the time and they stop and question me in the legal zone but won't drive down and confront the illegals.

 
Those elk are dieing out any way, so they don't care...

2 more years and you won't have to worry bout people beating you to the sheds on the flow, cuz there won't be any
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: Naches Sportsman on April 06, 2016, 02:06:00 PM
it shows the closed off wintering areas on the green dot road maps?

Yep.

Do they still print 2 seperate maps, one for oak creek and one for clemens/wenas?
Pretty sure they still do. I got maps of all of the wildlife areas from there.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: wildernessathlete on April 06, 2016, 10:03:14 PM
There are tracks around Joe Watt from one of those type vehicles I seen his bobcat traps and driving on non green dot roads. Also crossing over the reserve line. I think he has a white duramax with a white trailer.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: johnnyaustin44 on April 07, 2016, 12:09:25 AM
Pretty sad people can't follow the rules put in place. Stealing opportunity from all sportsmen.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: bigbullshedhunter on April 07, 2016, 06:03:02 AM
Sounds like there's alot of ppl on here not finding anything due to all the little whiney comments.   If you wanna pick em up that bad then find a spot that the whole world doesn't know about and actually hike for once. And then don't post every freaking detail of where you went. Never  understood that.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: trophyhunt on April 07, 2016, 06:14:03 AM
Sounds like there's alot of ppl on here not finding anything due to all the little whiney comments.   If you wanna pick em up that bad then find a spot that the whole world doesn't know about and actually hike for once. And then don't post every freaking detail of where you went. Never  understood that.
I just want to know where you go!!!! :chuckle:
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: CP on April 07, 2016, 07:16:29 AM
Sounds like there's alot of ppl on here not finding anything due to all the little whiney comments.   If you wanna pick em up that bad then find a spot that the whole world doesn't know about and actually hike for once. And then don't post every freaking detail of where you went. Never  understood that.
I just want to know where you go!!!! :chuckle:

Try here:

46.729979, -120.811323
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: Pinetar on April 07, 2016, 07:26:13 AM
Sounds like there's alot of ppl on here not finding anything due to all the little whiney comments.   If you wanna pick em up that bad then find a spot that the whole world doesn't know about and actually hike for once. And then don't post every freaking detail of where you went. Never  understood that.

 :yeah: Best post yet.

Especially love the comments that people on 4wh and sleds are chasing the elk to get their antlers to fall off. lol never ever seen this before and I spend as much or more time out there then anyone.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: snake on April 07, 2016, 05:30:15 PM
Sounds like there's alot of ppl on here not finding anything due to all the little whiney comments.   If you wanna pick em up that bad then find a spot that the whole world doesn't know about and actually hike for once. And then don't post every freaking detail of where you went. Never  understood that.

 :yeah: Best post yet.

Especially love the comments that people on 4wh and sleds are chasing the elk to get their antlers to fall off. lol never ever seen this before and I spend as much or more time out there then anyone.

yep, bunch of wimps complaining about stuff and then telling everyone how to do it.  and yes I do hate antler poachers too.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: MarkTrail on April 07, 2016, 09:01:03 PM
I must go on a rant for a few. How is it that possible illegal shed topic can go on for more than 6 pages yet on the elk forum a son post an amazing video /tribute to his father and a 40 year quest has less than a dozen compliments? Folks, I have been a long time lurker and a short time poster but you guys are hurting yourself by chasing the negatives. I have a lot more to say about the misconception of horn hunters but I will save it for a different day.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: 2labs on April 07, 2016, 09:08:28 PM
And then there's us that could give a flying "F" about Sheds! Are they any good? How do you cook um?  Why not open it in July when your more likely to piss off a snake than an Elk? :twocents:
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: Duckslayer89 on April 07, 2016, 09:20:50 PM
And then there's us that could give a flying "F" about Sheds! Are they any good? How do you cook um?  Why not open it in July when your more likely to piss off a snake than an Elk? :twocents:

 :chuckle: your posts make my day
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: Maverick on April 12, 2016, 11:53:46 AM
Interesting read. Throw some big sheds out there with trackers. Track the people right to their houses.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: Duckslayer89 on April 12, 2016, 11:58:38 AM
Interesting read. Throw some big sheds out there with trackers. Track the people right to their houses.

Tax dollars well spent  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: Maverick on April 12, 2016, 12:30:56 PM
Interesting read. Throw some big sheds out there with trackers. Track the people right to their houses.

Tax dollars well spent  :rolleyes:

I'd rather tax dollars be put to this than wolves... Other states do it and its proven to catch the people doing it. A mask over their face won't help them when the shed is in their house.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: JimmyHoffa on April 12, 2016, 12:43:20 PM
Interesting read. Throw some big sheds out there with trackers. Track the people right to their houses.

Tax dollars well spent  :rolleyes:

I'd rather tax dollars be put to this than wolves... Other states do it and its proven to catch the people doing it. A mask over their face won't help them when the shed is in their house.
gotta point, especially considering the $850K for a lady to try to make ranchers have a group hug with peta.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: REHJWA on April 12, 2016, 01:19:49 PM
Raise the penalties to make it less profitable....taking people's time and putting it toward conservation efforts too would make more sense. What good are laws if you can't / don't enforce them?
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: Duckslayer89 on April 12, 2016, 02:14:09 PM
How about just saying no shed antlers can be sold from wild animals. You can't sell the meat why can you sell the antlers?
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: pianoman9701 on April 13, 2016, 02:30:02 PM
 :tup:
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: AntlerHound on April 13, 2016, 06:32:01 PM
http://www.yakimaherald.com/sports/outdoors/combating-out-of-season-shed-hunters-an-uphill-battle/article_cdd0fca4-0078-11e6-9d51-13cf61040273.html

Link from the bottom of the page u pOsted naches sportsman..
Makes me think there can't be to many bones left up there... 
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: 2labs on April 13, 2016, 07:38:41 PM
Just deputies Naches! He'll handle it
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: Timberstalker on April 13, 2016, 08:57:01 PM
It's deputize.....
 :chuckle:
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: 2labs on April 13, 2016, 09:05:27 PM
 :yeah: ok!?!
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: 2labs on April 13, 2016, 09:28:57 PM
I had ya pegged! :tup:
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: Duckslayer89 on April 13, 2016, 09:30:01 PM
2labs,

I have considered becoming an LEO. Several retired officers said I should become one. I have done some research on the federal side of things. Maybe I should add on yet another major two my other two degrees I am going back to school for. I do think it would be kind of fun pissing people off and enforcing the laws.

Oh your one of those guys...
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: YoterHunter on April 20, 2016, 11:07:57 AM
Just read a artical on face book that they cought 2 guys last Tuesday in oak creek coming out with a pile of horns hope they get a good slaps in the nuts for it
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: buglebuster on April 20, 2016, 11:21:32 AM
Just read a artical on face book that they cought 2 guys last Tuesday in oak creek coming out with a pile of horns hope they get a good slaps in the nuts for it
It was actually the feed lot off of cowiche mill roaf
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: bbarnes on April 20, 2016, 03:13:15 PM
The worst part is the RMEF members and WDFW employees have been stealing them for years in front of everyone else.Dont go to the easy spots get out in the woods and find them.Also on another note how many dead elk are you finding I've seen 33 so far this year.Some with hoof rot and some without all having the same wearing cough laying on t.here sides kicking themslfs to death.I find it quit disturbing that no one shows up to any of the meetings ask WTF why are we still dealing with this.Even more disturbing is the lack of yearlings at this rate there will be no elk left.
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: yotesnmore on April 21, 2016, 08:09:30 AM
The biggest problem for the Cowiche feeding station lives right behind it and rides out with loads of horns on his horses. Thats who they need to watch closely. He pulled upwards of 30 horns out of it last year and bragged to the wrong guy. I hope his a** gets caught this year!
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: kentrek on April 21, 2016, 08:31:50 AM
The worst part is the RMEF members and WDFW employees have been stealing them for years in front of everyone else.Dont go to the easy spots get out in the woods and find them.Also on another note how many dead elk are you finding I've seen 33 so far this year.Some with hoof rot and some without all having the same wearing cough laying on t.here sides kicking themslfs to death.I find it quit disturbing that no one shows up to any of the meetings ask WTF why are we still dealing with this.Even more disturbing is the lack of yearlings at this rate there will be no elk left.

I figure hoof rot went from 10% last year to 20% this year on the mudflow , if it behaves like it did in the stella & Ryderwood & margret.....it will keep doubling....i bet two years and those elk will be gone

I stopped shed hunting this year cuz I was tired of seeing dead and almost dead elk

I wish the people in Seattle could see a half dead bull getting it's leg chewed on by a yote and birds pecking it's eyes out...maybe then they'd care but i doubt it
Title: Re: Illegal shed hunters on wdfw land
Post by: Ghost Hunter on May 11, 2016, 04:30:04 PM
The worst part is the RMEF members and WDFW employees have been stealing them for years in front of everyone else.Dont go to the easy spots get out in the woods and find them.Also on another note how many dead elk are you finding I've seen 33 so far this year.Some with hoof rot and some without all having the same wearing cough laying on t.here sides kicking themslfs to death.I find it quit disturbing that no one shows up to any of the meetings ask WTF why are we still dealing with this.Even more disturbing is the lack of yearlings at this rate there will be no elk left.
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