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Title: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: Wingin it on April 08, 2018, 07:20:10 PM
I am entertaining the idea of a new (to me anyway) truck. I do tow a few times a year but not so much that it's a major factor. It sounds like they are both pretty solid motors. What are your experiences with these two options? Fuel economy, life expectancy, etc.
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: elkaholic123 on April 08, 2018, 07:55:13 PM
I have s F-150 with a 6.2, I get about 13 back and forth to work and 15+ on a freeway trip. When loaded and pulling my small trailer with side by side I get about
10 mpg :yike: plenty of power though.
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: no.cen.wa on April 08, 2018, 08:14:18 PM
If you drive your truck around town, short trips, don't need the towing power or load rating just stick with gas. Service NEEDS to be done in timely manor, it will cost waay more than gas truck. My son is a Ford Tech, BLUE blood runs though his veins, but, he would tell you the same thing.
But, you would look cool in that huge Ford truck, just get your wallet out! 8)
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: High Climber on April 08, 2018, 08:15:31 PM
Just got back from a 2000 mile road trip in my 2017 6.7, averaged 17 MPG. From Cowlitz County to Pendleton, then Lewiston up to Bonnerís ferry and all over in between. The big factor I like is the tank size, my truck has a 48 gallon tank. Average 13-14 around town. I canít speak to life expectancy but I hope itís a Loooong time considering the price    :chuckle:  FWIW my buddies dad has a 6.2 in his super duty and pulls a 5th wheel quite a bit, he doesnít complain about lack of power
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: jackelope on April 08, 2018, 08:37:54 PM
If you donít tow with it,  do you really need a super duty? Just sacrificing fuel costs for what? You can tow 12k with a half ton F150.
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: jackelope on April 08, 2018, 08:39:01 PM
If you donít tow with it,  do you really need a super duty? Just sacrificing fuel costs for what? You can tow 12k with a half ton F150.
With that said, a lot of my construction company customers are going away from diesels. Maintenance and repair costs are big, DEF is a pain in the butt, etc. 
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: Skillet on April 08, 2018, 09:51:12 PM
Happy 6.0 diesel owner here, but wouldn't recommend a diesel for your stated needs.

Now that I don't regularly tow long distance and/or heavy loads, the expense of diesel maintenance and newer model emission issues aren't worth the slim benefits. If I bought a newer truck, I'd buy gas.
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: C-Money on April 09, 2018, 07:39:30 AM
I went gas back in 2008...have not missed diesel one bit. I would encourage a hard look at the 6.2, or a V10 if you can find one.
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: lord grizzly on April 09, 2018, 07:44:57 AM
if your not towing a bunch you don't need a diesel. that being said once you start driving one I don't know how anyone could go back to gas. because when you do need it, you need it and boy is it nice to have.
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: jjhunter on April 09, 2018, 12:00:08 PM
I bought a new 6.7...probably donít ďneedĒ it.   But I  didint want any restrictions (within reason) on what I can hook up to.
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: JWEBB on April 09, 2018, 08:55:14 PM
If you donít tow with it,  do you really need a super duty? Just sacrificing fuel costs for what? You can tow 12k with a half ton F150.

I'd like to see someone pull 12k with an F150 up vantage  :chuckle:.
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: Timberstalker on April 09, 2018, 09:01:41 PM
If you donít tow with it,  do you really need a super duty? Just sacrificing fuel costs for what? You can tow 12k with a half ton F150.

I'd like to see someone pull 12k with an F150 up vantage  :chuckle:.

Youíd be surprised what the new Ecoboosts are capable of.
And no I donít own one, but they do well with 12K.
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: syoungs on April 09, 2018, 09:28:11 PM
I went gas back in 2008...have not missed diesel one bit. I would encourage a hard look at the 6.2, or a V10 if you can find one.

Love my 3v v10, does everything I've ever needed it to do.
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: Skillet on April 09, 2018, 10:09:19 PM
Heavy Duty GMC commercial truck engine in the late 40's/ early 50's was a 302 cu in inline 6, 165 hp and 260-ish ft/# of torque.  That engine powered a good part of America's economic post-war boom.  Pulling 45,000# with it was normal business, even up the Vantage Grade.

None of us "need" the bigger torque numbers the marketing departments have suggested we do, but we buy them anyway.
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: jackelope on April 09, 2018, 10:23:17 PM
If you donít tow with it,  do you really need a super duty? Just sacrificing fuel costs for what? You can tow 12k with a half ton F150.

I'd like to see someone pull 12k with an F150 up vantage  :chuckle:.

Youíd be amazed. And itís a v6.
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: follow maggie on April 09, 2018, 10:56:12 PM
Heavy Duty GMC commercial truck engine in the late 40's/ early 50's was a 302 cu in inline 6, 165 hp and 260-ish ft/# of torque.  That engine powered a good part of America's economic post-war boom.  Pulling 45,000# with it was normal business, even up the Vantage Grade.

None of us "need" the bigger torque numbers the marketing departments have suggested we do, but we buy them anyway.

Itíll do it, but few of us like traveling on the highway at 20 mph
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: huntnphool on April 10, 2018, 12:02:16 AM
 It's not all about what your truck will pull, it should be about what your truck can stop if needing to.

 A Toyota can "pull/tow" my boat on paper, but I'd hate to have to stop quickly at 50+mph, especially on a downhill grade with one.

 I'll save the "buttons" discussion for another thread. :chuckle:
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: Miles on April 10, 2018, 02:56:27 AM
If you donít tow with it,  do you really need a super duty? Just sacrificing fuel costs for what? You can tow 12k with a half ton F150.

I'd like to see someone pull 12k with an F150 up vantage  :chuckle:.

Youíd be amazed. And itís a v6.

Iíve got a 41í fifth wheel thatís 12k dry.  I really doubt an f150 would last long towing it up and down a pass.  If anyone wants to give it a try, please take video and post it.

Jackelope, when did you move to the sales department?   :chuckle:

FYI

And if youíre spending the money on a diesel, why not get a 3/4 ton?  Good mileage and more towing capacity..
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: huntnphool on April 10, 2018, 04:23:14 AM
If you donít tow with it,  do you really need a super duty? Just sacrificing fuel costs for what? You can tow 12k with a half ton F150.

I'd like to see someone pull 12k with an F150 up vantage  :chuckle:.

Youíd be amazed. And itís a v6.

Iíve got a 41í fifth wheel thatís 12k dry.  I really doubt an f150 would last long towing it up and down a pass.  If anyone wants to give it a try, please take video and post it.

Jackelope, when did you move to the sales department?   :chuckle:

FYI

And if youíre spending the money on a diesel, why not get a 3/4 ton?  Good mileage and more towing capacity..

 I'd like to see that 3.0L V6 Powerstroke in the Expedition!
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: Viking360 on April 10, 2018, 05:56:51 AM
I am getting 16mpg around town and 20mpg highway on my deleted f350 6.7
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: Wingin it on April 10, 2018, 06:23:54 PM
Thanks for the input guys. I have been doing a ton of research and everything is clear as mud! Haha. Judging by what I have read I don't think there is a wrong answer. I think the 6.2 would work well for my needs. However if the right deal on a 6.7 popped up in don't know that I would pass on it either. As I mentioned I don't tow too often but when I need to I need to. I have a daily driver so the truck wouldn't necessarily need to be that anyway.
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: C-Money on April 11, 2018, 06:56:40 AM
Good luck in your truck quest! When you find the right one, you will know it!!
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: jackelope on April 13, 2018, 10:57:10 PM
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Not a sales guy, Miles. Just donít understand why someone who admittedly has no need for a diesel would buy one and submit themselves to the added maintenance cost and purchase price of one. Especially when you can buy an f150 or any other brand half ton gas truck that will tow a lot, cost less money to purchase and less money to maintain. And I guess I was wrong. Itís rated to tow 13,200 pounds.  Not 12,000.
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: Thenewguy on April 14, 2018, 09:06:24 AM
I have towed an awful lot with a f150. Not sure, unless you double toe, why youíd need more.
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: ryan2202 on April 14, 2018, 09:30:15 AM
I bought a 2016 6.2L Ford F250 and towed my ultralight 28" box family travel trailer.  I quickly learned the gas mileage, and overall performance on the motor was not cutting it for what I thought the motor should give me.  Don't get me wrong, it got the job done - but I felt like the truck was working hard for long hauls.  So I went out less than a year later and traded it in for a 2015 6.7 F250.  I love the way it tows the family trailer better - it gets better day to day gas mileage as well as better gas mileage when towing.  The truck doesn't even feel like it's working hard when towing - it feels like there's nothing behind it. 

A lot of people don't like the idea of DEF - but I haven't had an issue.  DEF needs to be refilled at every oil change - shouldn't need to top it off before then.

My truck 6.7L is much better for towing and hauling that my 6.2L.
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: Miles on April 16, 2018, 03:17:48 AM
Iím curious how many that responded to this thread actually tow 12 - 13k on a regular basis...   

Sure the gas rig will tow some weight, but all things equal on the heavier end of towing, Iíll bet the diesel far outlives the gas rig that was tached out on every hill.   I donít see gas powered semi trucks all over the place.  Think about that for a second if you plan on towing.


Iíll stick to my diesel.  Hereís the mileage for a morning commute to work, mostly hwy.  3/4 ton.  I check periodically and the computer system has never been off more than .6 mpgs.

Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: browney5er on April 16, 2018, 05:23:18 AM
Iím curious what kind of mileage you get when you go back up the hill to your house.
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: browney5er on April 16, 2018, 05:49:03 AM
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Not a sales guy, Miles. Just donít understand why someone who admittedly has no need for a diesel would buy one and submit themselves to the added maintenance cost and purchase price of one. Especially when you can buy an f150 or any other brand half ton gas truck that will tow a lot, cost less money to purchase and less money to maintain. And I guess I was wrong. Itís rated to tow 13,200 pounds.  Not 12,000.


So youíre saying if I have an 11,000 lb 5th wheel that I tow I should be fine with an f-150 and its half ton frame and half ton brakes and half ton transmission. As long as itís under 13,200 I have no need for anything larger. I beg to differ and if you say thatís not what you said than you better reread your post.
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: Miles on April 16, 2018, 07:29:59 AM
Iím curious what kind of mileage you get when you go back up the hill to your house.

Lol.  I average 21 - 23 home.   Itís a mix of up and down between Colorado Springs and Denver. Speeds are 65 - 80. 
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: Miles on April 16, 2018, 07:51:12 AM
We could really spice things up and bring payload into this discussion.  Iíd love to drop my 5íer on anyoneís stock F-150 that is willing to volunteer.   Airbag sales will increase...

Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: baker5150 on April 16, 2018, 08:44:57 AM
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Not a sales guy, Miles. Just donít understand why someone who admittedly has no need for a diesel would buy one and submit themselves to the added maintenance cost and purchase price of one. Especially when you can buy an f150 or any other brand half ton gas truck that will tow a lot, cost less money to purchase and less money to maintain. And I guess I was wrong. Itís rated to tow 13,200 pounds.  Not 12,000.


So youíre saying if I have an 11,000 lb 5th wheel that I tow I should be fine with an f-150 and its half ton frame and half ton brakes and half ton transmission. As long as itís under 13,200 I have no need for anything larger. I beg to differ and if you say thatís not what you said than you better reread your post.

I imagine in order to advertise this towing capacity they are required to build a frame, braking system, a trans to handle that load. 
You need to stop thinking of this truck as a 1/2 ton. 
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: Miles on April 16, 2018, 09:22:19 AM
If Iím remembering correctly, the standardized towing test does not factor in braking.  Itís basically a hill climb.  They donít care what happens after you reach the top.

Sorry, it does... just has to stop the truck and trailer at a speed of 20 mph in 80 ft or less.   Doesnít say anything about stopping a 13k 5íer on a 6% + downhill grade.  Lol.  It primarily focuses on speed and acceleration.
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: Timberstalker on April 16, 2018, 09:28:27 AM
If Iím remembering correctly, the standardized towing test does not factor in braking.  Itís basically a hill climb.  They donít care what happens after you reach the top.

Isn't that what the runaway gravel ramps are for? :dunno:
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: baker5150 on April 16, 2018, 09:36:19 AM
If Iím remembering correctly, the standardized towing test does not factor in braking.  Itís basically a hill climb.  They donít care what happens after you reach the top.

Sorry, it does... just has to stop the truck and trailer at a speed of 20 mph in 80 ft or less.   Doesnít say anything about stopping a 13k 5íer on a 6% + downhill grade.  Lol.  It primarily focuses on speed and acceleration.

So the lawyers at Ford allow them to rate a towing capacity based on a hill climb?  Doubt that.  There is a massive amount of engineering involved in what they want to get out of these trucks.  These companies aren't going to advertise something this truck can't handle safely, that's financial suicide.
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: Stein on April 16, 2018, 09:55:26 AM
They test to industry standards, you can read all about it here:

http://www.trucktrend.com/how-to/towing/1502-sae-j2807-tow-tests-the-standard/
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: jstone on April 16, 2018, 10:32:07 AM
Miles.... what truck do you have?
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: Miles on April 16, 2018, 11:08:48 AM
If Iím remembering correctly, the standardized towing test does not factor in braking.  Itís basically a hill climb.  They donít care what happens after you reach the top.

Sorry, it does... just has to stop the truck and trailer at a speed of 20 mph in 80 ft or less.   Doesnít say anything about stopping a 13k 5íer on a 6% + downhill grade.  Lol.  It primarily focuses on speed and acceleration.

So the lawyers at Ford allow them to rate a towing capacity based on a hill climb?  Doubt that.  There is a massive amount of engineering involved in what they want to get out of these trucks.  These companies aren't going to advertise something this truck can't handle safely, that's financial suicide.

Read the towing standard linked in the post below yours.   Then tell me how far off I am...   I tow 12-15k regularly.  A couple years ago I did a lot more research then the weekend warrior trying to tow a 5íer with his f-150.  Unless things have changed, I stand by my initial post on what they focus on.
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: Timberstalker on April 16, 2018, 12:19:08 PM
If Iím remembering correctly, the standardized towing test does not factor in braking.  Itís basically a hill climb.  They donít care what happens after you reach the top.

Sorry, it does... just has to stop the truck and trailer at a speed of 20 mph in 80 ft or less.   Doesnít say anything about stopping a 13k 5íer on a 6% + downhill grade.  Lol.  It primarily focuses on speed and acceleration.

So the lawyers at Ford allow them to rate a towing capacity based on a hill climb?  Doubt that.  There is a massive amount of engineering involved in what they want to get out of these trucks.  These companies aren't going to advertise something this truck can't handle safely, that's financial suicide.

Read the towing standard linked in the post below yours.   Then tell me how far off I am...   I tow 12-15k regularly.  A couple years ago I did a lot more research then the weekend warrior trying to tow a 5íer with his f-150.  Unless things have changed, I stand by my initial post on what they focus on.

While I won't argue that your Duramax is a better tow rig then the F-150, the link you mention does provide Brake Testing.

The only dog in the fight I have, is that a Cummins is better than a D-max - but I'll leave it alone.
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: jackelope on April 16, 2018, 12:31:50 PM
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Not a sales guy, Miles. Just donít understand why someone who admittedly has no need for a diesel would buy one and submit themselves to the added maintenance cost and purchase price of one. Especially when you can buy an f150 or any other brand half ton gas truck that will tow a lot, cost less money to purchase and less money to maintain. And I guess I was wrong. Itís rated to tow 13,200 pounds.  Not 12,000.


So youíre saying if I have an 11,000 lb 5th wheel that I tow I should be fine with an f-150 and its half ton frame and half ton brakes and half ton transmission. As long as itís under 13,200 I have no need for anything larger. I beg to differ and if you say thatís not what you said than you better reread your post.

I said itís rated to tow that much weight. How it does I have no idea.  Totally not the point of the thread though either, but since itís now jacked, if a truck is rated to tow X amount of weight, how is it not capable of towing X amount of weight? For the record Iím a huge fan of overkill when it comes to towing. I donít think Iíd ever want to tow 12k with a 1/2 ton truck. But the truck is rated to tow that much. So that means the frame and the brakes and the cooling system and everything that goes along with it is designed to handle that much weight.
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: jackelope on April 16, 2018, 12:34:55 PM
Iím curious how many that responded to this thread actually tow 12 - 13k on a regular basis...   

Sure the gas rig will tow some weight, but all things equal on the heavier end of towing, Iíll bet the diesel far outlives the gas rig that was tached out on every hill.   I donít see gas powered semi trucks all over the place.  Think about that for a second if you plan on towing.


Iíll stick to my diesel.  Hereís the mileage for a morning commute to work, mostly hwy.  3/4 ton.  I check periodically and the computer system has never been off more than .6 mpgs.

Iíve never towed 12k pounds in my life. Maybe 7000-8000 a few times.  But thatís not my point.
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: jackelope on April 16, 2018, 12:36:08 PM
I am entertaining the idea of a new (to me anyway) truck. I do tow a few times a year but not so much that it's a major factor. It sounds like they are both pretty solid motors. What are your experiences with these two options? Fuel economy, life expectancy, etc.
Hereís the original post in the thread just for keeping things on track.
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: baker5150 on April 16, 2018, 01:03:04 PM
If Iím remembering correctly, the standardized towing test does not factor in braking.  Itís basically a hill climb.  They donít care what happens after you reach the top.

Sorry, it does... just has to stop the truck and trailer at a speed of 20 mph in 80 ft or less.   Doesnít say anything about stopping a 13k 5íer on a 6% + downhill grade.  Lol.  It primarily focuses on speed and acceleration.

So the lawyers at Ford allow them to rate a towing capacity based on a hill climb?  Doubt that.  There is a massive amount of engineering involved in what they want to get out of these trucks.  These companies aren't going to advertise something this truck can't handle safely, that's financial suicide.

Read the towing standard linked in the post below yours.   Then tell me how far off I am...   I tow 12-15k regularly.  A couple years ago I did a lot more research then the weekend warrior trying to tow a 5íer with his f-150.  Unless things have changed, I stand by my initial post on what they focus on.

Yeah I read that.  I can't help but think there is more to it than that.  Like proving frame, and braking engineering.  Maybe not, but I sure hope so.
Especially considering how many guys are out there towing well beyond a trucks capacity.
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: Special T on April 16, 2018, 02:25:10 PM
Im gonna drop my 2c in here because im quite certain that there are only a couple of other folks that may have put more miles on towing behind a pickup than me.

Braking is less of an issue for the half ton because if the electric brakes work on your trailer they do most of the work. If you want to be concerned about the hauling capacity worry about keeping the transmission cool, since the f150 is going to be a juice box. While a gas engine isn't as efficient as a diesel, it will work for the occasional use. Many folks forget about the gas engines used in many for the F series dump/delivery trucks of the 70s. Going back and forth over the pass would be hardest on the truck, but once again this has more to do with the transmission than anything else. Using a truck at max capacity occasionally is one thing. Using it several times a week is something else.

I wouldn't hesitate to use a gas truck to haul capacity up and down the I5 corridor, or the occasional trip over the pass. It will take longer, and be less efficient. The real question becomes how often, and how much.

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Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: jackelope on April 16, 2018, 03:26:11 PM
Im gonna drop my 2c in here because im quite certain that there are only a couple of other folks that may have put more miles on towing behind a pickup than me.

Braking is less of an issue for the half ton because if the electric brakes work on your trailer they do most of the work. If you want to be concerned about the hauling capacity worry about keeping the transmission cool, since the f150 is going to be a juice box. While a gas engine isn't as efficient as a diesel, it will work for the occasional use. Many folks forget about the gas engines used in many for the F series dump/delivery trucks of the 70s. Going back and forth over the pass would be hardest on the truck, but once again this has more to do with the transmission than anything else. Using a truck at max capacity occasionally is one thing. Using it several times a week is something else.

I wouldn't hesitate to use a gas truck to haul capacity up and down the I5 corridor, or the occasional trip over the pass. It will take longer, and be less efficient. The real question becomes how often, and how much.

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But this thread is about a truck that will be used to possibly tow a few times a year.
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: Timberstalker on April 16, 2018, 03:39:50 PM
Im gonna drop my 2c in here because im quite certain that there are only a couple of other folks that may have put more miles on towing behind a pickup than me.

Braking is less of an issue for the half ton because if the electric brakes work on your trailer they do most of the work. If you want to be concerned about the hauling capacity worry about keeping the transmission cool, since the f150 is going to be a juice box. While a gas engine isn't as efficient as a diesel, it will work for the occasional use. Many folks forget about the gas engines used in many for the F series dump/delivery trucks of the 70s. Going back and forth over the pass would be hardest on the truck, but once again this has more to do with the transmission than anything else. Using a truck at max capacity occasionally is one thing. Using it several times a week is something else.

I wouldn't hesitate to use a gas truck to haul capacity up and down the I5 corridor, or the occasional trip over the pass. It will take longer, and be less efficient. The real question becomes how often, and how much.

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But this thread is about a truck that will be used to possibly tow a few times a year.

That was 2 pages ago, so can't we derail? :dunno:
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: Special T on April 16, 2018, 03:40:40 PM
Which is why i'd say a gas truck is appropriate for the needs.

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Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: Miles on April 16, 2018, 04:42:17 PM
Iím curious what kind of mileage you get when you go back up the hill to your house.

Here you go..
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: Wingin it on April 16, 2018, 06:46:46 PM
I appreciate the attempts to get the thread back on track. However in this case there are plenty of opinions and info being kicked around to ponder. I say have at it.  :twocents:
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: HntnFsh on April 17, 2018, 06:07:49 AM
Just some thoughts on the gas vs. diesel debate. I'm sure a gasser would pull a trailer ok . May even stop it ok. But to me part of the advantage of a diesel is the weight of the tow vehicle. According to a quick search the heaviest Ford F150 is listed at 4950 lbs. My 06 Chevy with the Duramax is 7500 lbs. I like that extra weight because it doesn't get pushed around as much as a lighter vehicle. I think this is especially noticeable on longer trailers. Tow the same weight with both properly set up over a variety of roads and terrain and I will take the heavier rig every time. People talk about braking. With my Duramax on some pretty steep downhill grades the engine and transmission hold me back where I would have to be riding the brakes in a gasser. Ive been on some pretty steep grades where I didn't have to touch the brakes. Especially if I used the manual shift option. Another big one for me is that a gasser will be working really hard on hard pulls. Personally when the gassers I towed with were running at high RPM it just wasn't relaxing to me. Just seemed to always have me on edge. I like it when I'm pulling hard and only running about 1800 rpm. Just less stressful. 

  Sure a gasser will work for some of you. Personally I went from a gasser to a diesel and would never go back if doing much towing at all. The diesel is just way more relaxing to drive, and when I'm driving, going on vacation etc. I go so I can relax as much as possible. 
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: jackelope on April 17, 2018, 09:00:12 AM
Just some thoughts on the gas vs. diesel debate. I'm sure a gasser would pull a trailer ok . May even stop it ok. But to me part of the advantage of a diesel is the weight of the tow vehicle. According to a quick search the heaviest Ford F150 is listed at 4950 lbs. My 06 Chevy with the Duramax is 7500 lbs. I like that extra weight because it doesn't get pushed around as much as a lighter vehicle. I think this is especially noticeable on longer trailers. Tow the same weight with both properly set up over a variety of roads and terrain and I will take the heavier rig every time. People talk about braking. With my Duramax on some pretty steep downhill grades the engine and transmission hold me back where I would have to be riding the brakes in a gasser. Ive been on some pretty steep grades where I didn't have to touch the brakes. Especially if I used the manual shift option. Another big one for me is that a gasser will be working really hard on hard pulls. Personally when the gassers I towed with were running at high RPM it just wasn't relaxing to me. Just seemed to always have me on edge. I like it when I'm pulling hard and only running about 1800 rpm. Just less stressful. 

  Sure a gasser will work for some of you. Personally I went from a gasser to a diesel and would never go back if doing much towing at all. The diesel is just way more relaxing to drive, and when I'm driving, going on vacation etc. I go so I can relax as much as possible. 

The OP was talking about deciding between a super duty with a diesel or a super duty with a big gas engine.  It was probably me who got the thread sidetracked into an F150 debate, but that was only because the big trucks cost more and it didn't sound to me like a guy who may tow a few times a year needed a super duty and could save himself some $$$ on the purchase price and maintenance and fuel costs.

Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: HntnFsh on April 17, 2018, 01:06:03 PM
Ya, I helped it stay off track. For somebody that doesn't tow a lot a duperduty would probably be fine. Handle a bit better than an F150.  We have some superduties at work. They tow ok. But I'm not impressed with them. We are usually around 8000 lbs on our work boats. Most other stuff is lighter.
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: fish vacuum on April 18, 2018, 05:35:28 PM
I haven't noticed where the OP said what and where he will tow.
Most people overestimate their vehicle needs. There are people who need diesels and trucks beyond a half ton. And there are people who own 2500/3500's that could be replaced by a minivan.
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: rtspring on April 18, 2018, 06:09:09 PM
I wouldn't trade my diesel for any gas motor. But thats me.  Its simple some people need them and some people don't.  With the price of trucks these days they all suck!!!
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: J.Brower on April 19, 2018, 09:40:12 AM
I wouldn't trade my diesel for any gas motor. But thats me.  Its simple some people need them and some people don't.  With the price of trucks these days they all suck!!!

I had that same train of thought, until I finally gave up my 99 Ram for a 15' ecoboost f150.  :chuckle: Still more than happy with it and don't regret it one bit, other than having payments, that part DOES suck.  :bash:
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: Alchase on April 19, 2018, 11:26:44 AM
I’m curious what kind of mileage you get when you go back up the hill to your house.

Here you go..

Unless the last 50 miles your drove were down hill with a tail wind, the 23 MPG average is 7 MPG better than my 3.7 Dakota  :yike:

Lets not even mention doing that with double the HP, bigger bed, and more payload, I would just get seriously depressed  :ACRY:
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: dontgetcrabs on April 19, 2018, 05:03:31 PM
I wouldn't trade my diesel for any gas motor. But thats me.  Its simple some people need them and some people don't.  With the price of trucks these days they all suck!!!

Glad you moved on from that super charged toy truck you bragged about.  :tup:
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: Miles on April 19, 2018, 05:20:55 PM
I’m curious what kind of mileage you get when you go back up the hill to your house.

Here you go..

Unless the last 50 miles your drove were down hill with a tail wind, the 23 MPG average is 7 MPG better than my 3.7 Dakota  :yike:

Lets not even mention doing that with double the HP, bigger bed, and more payload, I would just get seriously depressed  :ACRY:

I commute from the Springs to Denver.  Itís not downhill both ways...  I posted mpgs for both legs of the trip.   With that type of hwy fuel mileage itís hard for me to understand the appeal of the ďsmallerĒ trucks.   But I also tow a 41í fifth wheel pretty regularly, so that plays a part in my thought process. 
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: bigmacc on April 19, 2018, 07:07:37 PM
I wouldn't trade my diesel for any gas motor. But thats me.  Its simple some people need them and some people don't.  With the price of trucks these days they all suck!!!

I had that same train of thought, until I finally gave up my 99 Ram for a 15' ecoboost f150.  :chuckle: Still more than happy with it and don't regret it one bit, other than having payments, that part DOES suck.  :bash:

Same here, diesels all in the family for years and years, Fords and dodge, I too picked up a 2015 ecoboost in 15, love it!
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: kckrawler on April 19, 2018, 07:47:47 PM
Iím curious what kind of mileage you get when you go back up the hill to your house.

Here you go..

Unless the last 50 miles your drove were down hill with a tail wind, the 23 MPG average is 7 MPG better than my 3.7 Dakota  :yike:

Lets not even mention doing that with double the HP, bigger bed, and more payload, I would just get seriously depressed  :ACRY:

I commute from the Springs to Denver.  Itís not downhill both ways...  I posted mpgs for both legs of the trip.   With that type of hwy fuel mileage itís hard for me to understand the appeal of the ďsmallerĒ trucks.   But I also tow a 41í fifth wheel pretty regularly, so that plays a part in my thought process.

Stock or modified?
Title: Re: Ford 6.2 gasser vs 6.7 diesel
Post by: Alchase on April 23, 2018, 10:16:52 AM
I’m curious what kind of mileage you get when you go back up the hill to your house.

Here you go..

Unless the last 50 miles your drove were down hill with a tail wind, the 23 MPG average is 7 MPG better than my 3.7 Dakota  :yike:

Lets not even mention doing that with double the HP, bigger bed, and more payload, I would just get seriously depressed  :ACRY:

I commute from the Springs to Denver.  It’s not downhill both ways...  I posted mpgs for both legs of the trip.   With that type of hwy fuel mileage it’s hard for me to understand the appeal of the “smaller” trucks.   But I also tow a 41’ fifth wheel pretty regularly, so that plays a part in my thought process. 

Believe me the appeal of small trucks, turns into a myth once you have one, LOL.
 
Especially with numbers like that