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Title: State orders killing of wolves from 2 more packs
Post by: Ridgeratt on November 07, 2018, 02:13:27 PM






State orders killing of wolves from 2 more packs
Posted: Nov 07, 2018 11:02 AM PST
Updated: Nov 07, 2018 11:02 AM PST


 

SPOKANE, Wash. -
The state of Washington says it will kill wolves from two packs that have been preying on cattle.
 
The Department of Fish and Wildlife said Wednesday that it will kill members of the Smackout Pack in Stevens County and members of the Togo Pack in Ferry County.
 
Agency director Kelly Susewind says wolves from the two packs continue to prey on cattle despite efforts to get them to stop.
 
The agency says wolf hunts could begin on Thursday.
 
Last month the state decided to kill the remaining two wolves from the Old Profanity Peak Territory Pack, which had repeatedly preyed on cattle in Ferry County.
 
Conservation groups have criticized the killing of wolves, a protected species, to save cattle grazing on public lands.

http://www.khq.com/story/39438050/state-orders-killing-of-wolves-from-2-more-packs
Title: Re: State orders killing of wolves from 2 more packs
Post by: jackmaster on November 07, 2018, 02:14:55 PM
Damn, who would of thunk it? Wolves going after the easy prey !! Damn them !!
Title: Re: State orders killing of wolves from 2 more packs
Post by: PA BEN on November 07, 2018, 07:30:54 PM
http://www.capitalpress.com/Washington/20181107/washington-fish-and-wildlife-targets-2-more-wolfpacks?fbclid=IwAR3tA8k74TZO1qGIHruvltXmieAs9HJAM42thhGHGN4EQBHgkz3oJnH3QJM#disqus_thread
Title: Re: State orders killing of wolves from 2 more packs
Post by: HighlandLofts on November 08, 2018, 06:41:57 PM
If some one killed every damn wolf out there it wouldn't break my heart.
Title: Re: State orders killing of wolves from 2 more packs
Post by: Dan-o on November 08, 2018, 06:56:20 PM
I just have to laugh at their tactics when I read these kind of lines in each of  these stories:

"Agency director Kelly Susewind says wolves from the two packs continue to prey on cattle despite efforts to get them to stop."

It's like they think they can put wolves in a timeout.
Title: Re: State orders killing of wolves from 2 more packs
Post by: HighlandLofts on November 09, 2018, 05:52:42 AM
These tree huggers have no idea how things happen in the real world.
It seems they are tect book smart and believe in Rudolf and Santa Claus.

Maybe they should work on restocking Unicorns and Mermaids.
Title: Re: State orders killing of wolves from 2 more packs
Post by: nwwanderer on November 09, 2018, 06:40:29 AM
We need to try this wolf management thing on a regional basis, throw out the wolf plan, let Idaho take over management on contiguous habitat (most of eastern Washington), pay fully on all depredation within ten days of loss, honestly monitor and report wolf activity, increase the Idaho plan as the population continues to expand across Washington, encourage funding from wolf supporters for monitoring and depredation costs and budget wisely all wolf expenditures.
Title: Re: State orders killing of wolves from 2 more packs
Post by: bornhunter on November 09, 2018, 08:00:22 AM
Hey now!!! Lay off Rudolph and Santa Claus. They fly over my house every Christmas eve!
Title: Re: State orders killing of wolves from 2 more packs
Post by: Ridgeratt on November 09, 2018, 08:32:07 AM
Washington wildlife officials order killing of members of two more wolf packs
Thu., Nov. 8, 2018
 
For the first time, wolves from three Washington packs are in the state’s crosshairs.
The Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife ordered the killing of members of the Togo and the Smackout packs Wednesday.
That comes on the heels of a similar kill order directed at the Old Profanity Territory pack on Oct. 26.
“This is the worst year we’ve ever had,” WDFW Director Kelly Susewind said in an interview Monday. “I know we’ve never had three packs that are above the threshold for lethal removal.”
Susewind authorized the removal of one or two members of the Smackout pack after officials confirmed pack members had killed or injured five cattle since Aug. 20. According to a WDFW release, four heifers were killed and one calf was injured on privately owned land.
The Smackout pack has four or five adult wolves.
The remaining members of the Togo pack will also be targeted. Togo pack members have killed or injured six cattle over the past 10 months, the release said.
Most recently, WDFW killed a male from the Togo pack. However, on Oct. 26, Jake Nelson, a rancher on the Lone Ranch grazing allotment, documented a calf injured by wolves.
The calf’s rear was badly chewed, and its leg was broken.
Because the attacks occurred on private land, WDFW authorized the ranchers to kill the wolves, the release said. Finally let the ranchers take care of the offenders on site. Instead of waiting for the WDFW marksmen.
The Togo pack consists of a female adult wolf and two pups, according to a WDFW release.
Nelson did not immediately return a call requesting comment.
WDFW’s lethal removal policy allows killing wolves if they prey on livestock three times in a 30-day period or four times in a 10-month period. That policy was developed in 2016 by WDFW and its 18-member Wolf Advisory Group, which represents the concerns of environmentalists, hunters and livestock ranchers.
The policy also stipulates cattle producers have employed at least two proactive deterrence techniques.
Lethal control is allowed in the eastern third of the state where wolves are protected by state endangered species rules. Wolves remain federally protected in the western two-thirds of the state.
State Rep. Joel Kretz said the kill order is good news for ranchers, but he questioned whether WDFW will be capable.
“Well, I’ve been worried about this day coming,” he said. “I asked them a year ago, two years ago, you guys seem to struggle dealing when one pack goes bad, how are you going to deal with two or three at the same time? It’s more than they can handle, frankly.”
Environmental groups have temporarily blocked the killing of wolves in the past. A lawyer for the Center for Biological Diversity unsuccessfully attempted to temporarily block the killings in court Wednesday, said Noah Greenwald, the endangered species director at the center.
However, a larger lawsuit filed by the Center for Biological Diversity and Cascadia Wildlands alleging that WDFW “relied upon a faulty protocol and failed to undergo required environmental analysis” is ongoing.
“The fact that WDFW has kill orders out for three packs is both tragic and not a sound way to be managing an endangered species like wolves,” Greenwald said.
He questioned the effectiveness of killing wolves as a deterrence strategy. Some research has found killing wolves may not reduce depredations.
For example, a 2018 study found killing wolves may help ranchers in the immediate area but pushes the wolves to other areas and does not reduce overall incidents. A 2014 study found killing wolves led to more dead sheep and cows the following year. The study was authored by controversial former Washington State University professor Rob Wielgus.
However, in 2015 a Montana Fish, Wildlife & Parks biologist published a study that found lethal removal does work. But incremental lethal removal – that is, killing one or two wolves at a time – does not. Instead, removing the entire pack is the most effective strategy.
WDFW incrementally removes wolves.
Despite losses of a dozen wolves per year from state-authorized killing, poaching, vehicle collisions and other human-related causes, the state’s wolf population continues to grow.
A minimum of 122 wolves, 22 packs and 14 successful breeding pairs was reported by the WDFW this winter.
In a meet-and-greet Monday in the Spokane Valley, WDFW’s Susewind said the wolf management plan needs to change.
The Wolf Advisory Group will start looking at a de-listing plan for the state’s wolves, he said. WDFW is starting a state environmental review to assess the feasibility of relocating some wolves, although Susewind called that an unlikely option.
“We’ve got to try something different,” he said.
Title: Re: State orders killing of wolves from 2 more packs
Post by: bornhunter on November 09, 2018, 08:40:35 AM
I believe the definition of insanity is at play here. Same game, same result :bash:
Title: Re: State orders killing of wolves from 2 more packs
Post by: wolfbait on November 10, 2018, 10:22:47 AM
 "in 2015 a Montana Fish, Wildlife & Parks biologist published a study that found lethal removal does work. But incremental lethal removal – that is, killing one or two wolves at a time – does not. Instead, removing the entire pack is the most effective strategy."

WDF&Wolves knew this long ago, so the only conclusion is they like seeing livestock owners lose stock.


When the deer herds etc. gets down to next to zero, WDF&Wolves will shut the hunting down claiming there are not enough deer etc. to feed the predators and hunters.



"A minimum of 122 wolves, 22 packs and 14 successful breeding pairs was reported by the WDFW this winter."

Just like refusing to confirm wolf predation on livestock, WDFW blatantly lie to the people of WA, they know we know they are liars and yet they continue to lie.


I talk to a guy this week who found a huge bull moose wolves had killed in McFarland cr., he said they ate a little out of the butt and the rest was rotting.

WDF&Corruption are destroying WA's wildlife with their fake endangered wolves and the protection of predators.



Title: Re: State orders killing of wolves from 2 more packs
Post by: bornhunter on November 10, 2018, 11:11:20 AM
Now that is really sad.
Title: Re: State orders killing of wolves from 2 more packs
Post by: Ghost Hunter on November 28, 2018, 09:47:58 AM
Don't have them all yet.  Fresh tracks on Kelly Hill property last night.  Had camera in wrong spot.
Title: Re: State orders killing of wolves from 2 more packs
Post by: timberfaller on November 28, 2018, 10:10:45 AM
"Because the attacks occurred on private land, WDFW authorized the ranchers to kill the wolves, the release said. Finally let the ranchers take care of the offenders on site. Instead of waiting for the WDFW marksmen."

 :yike: Wonder if they'll go and apologize to the rancher in the Methow they harassed now??!!  Won't hold my breath of that happening any time soon!!
Title: Re: State orders killing of wolves from 2 more packs
Post by: HighlandLofts on November 28, 2018, 11:35:17 AM
This fake agency knows nothing but lies and cover ups. They are a anti-gun, anti-hunting branch of the democrap party. Nothing they do is for the people who hunt or fish.
I refuse to buy any hunting or fishing license in this state, I hunt out of state and will continue to do so.
Title: Re: State orders killing of wolves from 2 more packs
Post by: KFhunter on November 28, 2018, 08:16:12 PM
crap, I need to get a job with Diamond M Ranch and go hunting  :yike:   :IBCOOL:
Title: Re: State orders killing of wolves from 2 more packs
Post by: jager on November 28, 2018, 09:26:55 PM



On Nov. 13, WDFW Director Kelly Susewind paused action seeking to lethally remove the two remaining wolves from a pack that repeatedly preyed on cattle while occupying the old Profanity Territory (OPT) in Ferry County.  However, the agency has not moved into a formal evaluation period.

On Sept. 12, Susewind authorized the initial incremental removal of OPT pack members after WDFW field staff confirmed that the pack had killed one calf and injured five others during the previous eight days on a U.S. Forest Service grazing allotment in the Kettle Range.

The Director’s action was consistent with both the state’s Wolf Conservation and Management Plan and the department’s Wolf-Livestock Interaction Protocol, which allows WDFW to use lethal means to reduce future livestock depredations if the department documents three depredations by a pack on livestock within 30 days, or four within ten months.

Previously, on Sept. 28, WDFW had suspended the use of lethal measures after removing two wolves (a juvenile wolf and an adult female) from the pack, and initiated an evaluation period to determine whether that action would change the pack’s behavior.

However, by Oct. 23, the department documented six more depredations by the pack during the evaluation period for a total of 16 depredations (13 injured and three killed livestock) by the pack in under two months. The additional depredations prompted Susewind to reauthorize the removal operation.

Using aircraft, WDFW staff attempted to remove the remaining two pack members (a collared adult male and an uncollared juvenile wolf) multiple times over a two-week period. Staff were unable to locate the uncollared wolf due to the dense forest canopy.

The proactive non-lethal deterrents deployed in the area are described in the wolf updates on Sept. 28, Oct. 19, and Oct. 26.  By Nov. 9, the producer had removed all but a few of the 198 pairs from the grazing allotment.

Director Susewind is assessing the situation before considering any further action.
Title: Re: State orders killing of wolves from 2 more packs
Post by: jager on November 28, 2018, 09:35:44 PM
  Received this e-mail from change.org.

219,000 signed

   
Center for Biological Diversity started this petition to Director, Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife Kelly Susewind


Washington state is going on a killing-spree of endangered wolves, and it must be stopped.
Over Labor Day weekend, a helicopter sniper gunned down the sole adult male wolf of the Togo pack. He was the devoted father to two pups seen in the video above. In a sick twist, the state admitted that killing him could force the remaining adult female to hunt livestock to feed the pups. In effect, the state has set her up to have conflicts with livestock, knowing they could kill her and the two pups next.
Just weeks later, a sniper in a helicopter shot and killed a five-month-old wolf pup from the Old Profanity Territory pack. These wolves are living in the exact territory where the state slaughtered seven wolves from the Profanity Peak pack in 2016 – leaving just one female to fend for herself with three pups.
Killing a pup is grotesque and inhumane — and a clear sign that the state's ramping up its campaign to kill wolves at the behest of special interests. The Old Profanity Territory pup whose life was taken only weighed 50 pounds and was still developing his canine teeth. It was nowhere near ready to hunt on its own.
Time and again Washington's spineless state officials bow to the interests of a powerful few by putting the profits of the livestock industry above the well-being of wildlife.
The state has killed 16 state-endangered wolves from four different packs, all at the bidding of a single cattle business. Another three were killed for other livestock operations.
It's a bloody legacy that can't continue.
Title: Re: State orders killing of wolves from 2 more packs
Post by: Goshawk on December 12, 2018, 08:45:39 PM
Only in Washington State would the government spend thousands of dollars to both introduce and kill wolves rather than sell tags for them. This is like the old movie Cool Hand Luke.  I'm getting the dirt of of the warden's hole!
Title: Re: State orders killing of wolves from 2 more packs
Post by: Boss .300 winmag on December 12, 2018, 08:49:20 PM
  Received this e-mail from change.org.

219,000 signed

   
Center for Biological Diversity started this petition to Director, Washington Department of Fish and Wildlife Kelly Susewind


Washington state is going on a killing-spree of endangered wolves, and it must be stopped.
Over Labor Day weekend, a helicopter sniper gunned down the sole adult male wolf of the Togo pack. He was the devoted father to two pups seen in the video above. In a sick twist, the state admitted that killing him could force the remaining adult female to hunt livestock to feed the pups. In effect, the state has set her up to have conflicts with livestock, knowing they could kill her and the two pups next.
Just weeks later, a sniper in a helicopter shot and killed a five-month-old wolf pup from the Old Profanity Territory pack. These wolves are living in the exact territory where the state slaughtered seven wolves from the Profanity Peak pack in 2016 – leaving just one female to fend for herself with three pups.
Killing a pup is grotesque and inhumane — and a clear sign that the state's ramping up its campaign to kill wolves at the behest of special interests. The Old Profanity Territory pup whose life was taken only weighed 50 pounds and was still developing his canine teeth. It was nowhere near ready to hunt on its own.
Time and again Washington's spineless state officials bow to the interests of a powerful few by putting the profits of the livestock industry above the well-being of wildlife.
The state has killed 16 state-endangered wolves from four different packs, all at the bidding of a single cattle business. Another three were killed for other livestock operations.
It's a bloody legacy that can't continue.

Pathetic email, focusing on emotions.🤣
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