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Title: Muzzy for my 12 year old
Post by: Jharstad7182 on March 28, 2019, 09:00:36 AM
I知 putting my 12 year old in for multi season and if he gets drawn I知 purchasing him a muzzy. I muzzy hunt for elk religiously, know my way around a muzzleloader I have a knight disc extreme 50 cal and a Thompson center 58 cal. One is to heavy and the other the stock is two long. He is a decent shot with open sights. Just need to find one that fits him. And as simple as possible. Haven稚 done a lot of research yet wanted to come here first to see if you guys got any recommendations for a youth model muzzy. He is not a very big kid but Shoots his 243 and 6.5 with sticks and his 22 with ease all youth models and has killed a deer in Idaho. So he not a green horn but definitely still a apprentice. thanks for the help
Title: Re: Muzzy for my 12 year old
Post by: bobcat on March 28, 2019, 09:03:49 AM
CVA Optima is what I have and they're as simple as can be, and compact/lightweight. I think it would be perfect for a kid. Probably would want to keep the powder charge on the light side though so recoil isn't too brutal.
Title: Re: Muzzy for my 12 year old
Post by: Jharstad7182 on March 28, 2019, 09:56:42 AM
Yeah I知 goin to start light and go up from there I shoot granulated so I知 able to fart around with it easier
Title: Re: Muzzy for my 12 year old
Post by: Sabotloader on March 28, 2019, 09:58:47 AM
I知 putting my 12 year old in for multi season and if he gets drawn I知 purchasing him a muzzy. I muzzy hunt for elk religiously, know my way around a muzzleloader I have a knight disc extreme 50 cal and a Thompson center 58 cal. One is to heavy and the other the stock is two long. He is a decent shot with open sights. Just need to find one that fits him. And as simple as possible. Haven稚 done a lot of research yet wanted to come here first to see if you guys got any recommendations for a youth model muzzy. He is not a very big kid but Shoots his 243 and 6.5 with sticks and his 22 with ease all youth models and has killed a deer in Idaho. So he not a green horn but definitely still a apprentice. thanks for the help

I am assuming that the DISC is to long for him - but it is an excellent rifle... You can do a couple of things

1. Change recoil pads to a thinner recoil pad - the Limbsaver #1052 will actually absorb more recoil than does the factory Knight.  It is 5/8" thick as compared to the 1" Knight.

2. Remove current recoil pad and cut the dimension that you want and then add a new recoil pad.

Plus you might look at the Knight Littlehorn - It is designed for youth.
Title: Re: Muzzy for my 12 year old
Post by: andersonjk4 on March 28, 2019, 11:47:53 AM
CVA Optima is what I have and they're as simple as can be, and compact/lightweight. I think it would be perfect for a kid. Probably would want to keep the powder charge on the light side though so recoil isn't too brutal.

 :yeah: The CVA optima would be a good choice. Depending on the size of the child, the CVA Wolf might be a good fit as well.  It is a simpler version of the Optima with a shorter barrel which makes it a little bit lighter. 
Title: Re: Muzzy for my 12 year old
Post by: Jharstad7182 on March 28, 2019, 12:34:55 PM
I値l check em out thanks guys
Title: Re: Muzzy for my 12 year old
Post by: WapitiTalk1 on March 28, 2019, 12:47:16 PM
Maybe look at one of these. 

  https://www.traditionsfirearms.com/product/buckstalker-youth-model-50-caliber-black-blued
Title: Re: Muzzy for my 12 year old
Post by: bkaech on March 28, 2019, 07:43:57 PM
Another vote for the CVA.... I love my Optima, super simple. The CVA Wolf is a little different and a bit shorter stock, might be a good option.
Title: Re: Muzzy for my 12 year old
Post by: crowinghen on March 28, 2019, 08:39:24 PM
I think the cva wolf might be too long in the pull length (14 inches) I like the Knight Littlehorn, length of pull around 12 I think. I am  a woman with short arms, like my knight muzzleloader A LOT. And I wouldn't really worry about the recoil- it's more of a  push than a sharp crack.
Title: Re: Muzzy for my 12 year old
Post by: Jharstad7182 on March 29, 2019, 01:10:02 PM
Thanks guys and gals
Title: Re: Muzzy for my 12 year old
Post by: steeleywhopper on March 29, 2019, 01:53:31 PM
The T/C Impact has an adjustable stock.
Title: Re: Muzzy for my 12 year old
Post by: Sabotloader on March 29, 2019, 03:22:09 PM
The T/C Impact has an adjustable stock.

You know the Impact really is not that bad of a rifle... see a lot of people using it and with Washington's new rules you can use 209's so might be a good look see
Title: Re: Muzzy for my 12 year old
Post by: Jharstad7182 on March 29, 2019, 04:47:42 PM
I like the look of the t/c
Title: Re: Muzzy for my 12 year old
Post by: steeleywhopper on March 29, 2019, 05:25:16 PM
The T/C Impact has an adjustable stock.

You know the Impact really is not that bad of a rifle... see a lot of people using it and with Washington's new rules you can use 209's so might be a good look see

My cousin has used one for his San Juan Island deer gun and it kills em dead. He lets my niece use it when I bring her over and she likes it. I have since bought one and it shoots great.
Title: Re: Muzzy for my 12 year old
Post by: Rainier10 on March 29, 2019, 07:39:58 PM
Not sure if your elk hunting or deer hunting but @Sabotloader dialed me in with a 45 cal setup in a 50 cal night bighorn. Sabot that a 45 cal bullet fit in light powder charge for no kick and would knock down deer. Once they get good with that throw a 50 cal bullet in up the charge a little and go after elk too.
Title: Re: Muzzy for my 12 year old
Post by: highside74 on March 29, 2019, 09:39:03 PM
My wife is 5'2"and 110# She has shot a 50 cal 300 grain sabot and 100gr of powder no problem. Your boy sounds like he has shot a few rifles so he should be fine with any muzzy you choose for him.
Title: Re: Muzzy for my 12 year old
Post by: stickbuck on March 30, 2019, 03:04:05 AM
I bought my 8yr old son a CVA Optima for his youth elk hunt. I was worried about the length of pull, but it wasn稚 an issue. At 8, he had a tough time free handing it, but very comfortable on shooting sticks. Last year, at 9 years old he free handed his shot on his cow and made a perfect shot. At 10yrs old, he is 5 foot and weighs 90lbs and has grown into the gun even more. He is shooting a 290gr Barnes bullet with 100gr of powder.


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Title: Re: Muzzy for my 12 year old
Post by: Jharstad7182 on April 01, 2019, 09:21:38 AM
All good stuff thanks ........... results out yet lol
Title: Re: Muzzy for my 12 year old
Post by: gadwall on July 15, 2019, 10:05:56 PM
 :yeah: :yeah:
Maybe look at one of these. 

  https://www.traditionsfirearms.com/product/buckstalker-youth-model-50-caliber-black-blued