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Title: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: Biggerhammer on May 16, 2019, 06:28:41 PM
I ordered a reamer for a .22 Creedmoor Improved(40 Degree).Hadn’t decided what to call the chambering. Thought I would put it to the masses for a vote. The reamer is throated for the 95gr Sierra Matchkings.

6.5 Creedmoor/143gr ELD-X (Left)
.22 Creedmoor/195gr Sierra MK (Right)

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k269/landonmoses/Mobile%20Uploads/BD425671-7F6F-436E-B8C4-82CB10FE3D23_zpsgq34smmi.jpg) (http://s90.photobucket.com/user/landonmoses/media/Mobile%20Uploads/BD425671-7F6F-436E-B8C4-82CB10FE3D23_zpsgq34smmi.jpg.html)

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k269/landonmoses/Mobile%20Uploads/65A647EB-48A1-43C7-B434-16C2B199179E_zpsm3zavsjj.jpg) (http://s90.photobucket.com/user/landonmoses/media/Mobile%20Uploads/65A647EB-48A1-43C7-B434-16C2B199179E_zpsm3zavsjj.jpg.html)
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: yorketransport on May 16, 2019, 07:03:14 PM
The 22 Inversion, since your picture is upside down. :chuckle:
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: BULLBLASTER on May 16, 2019, 07:07:48 PM
What is improved on it? Just shoulder angle? Or is it moved forward any?

I do like the 22 inversion.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: Biggerhammer on May 16, 2019, 07:09:37 PM
The 22 Inversion, since your picture is upside down. :chuckle:

It’s weird. That’s how the website down loaded it.
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: yorketransport on May 16, 2019, 08:33:19 PM
What is improved on it? Just shoulder angle? Or is it moved forward any?

My guess is that the round in the picture is a straight 22 Creedmoor, not a fire formed version of the improved case. Since this is one of Biggerhammer's creations, I'd assume a sharper shoulder and maybe a longer case body.


I do like the 22 inversion.  :chuckle:

I shoot worse than a blind monkey with no fingers, but I'm good at coming up with names. :chuckle:
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: Mtnwalker on May 16, 2019, 08:38:56 PM
Since it’s improved I vote for .22 CreedMore
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: X-Force on May 16, 2019, 08:41:59 PM
.22 195gr bullet!

What’s the BCs on that?
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: Bill W on May 16, 2019, 09:00:43 PM
To me this is just like the .224 Cheetah only with a heavier bullet.  For those who aren't up on the Cheetah it was a .224 off of the .243 Win case.    I wanted one bad and still have the unfinished thumbhole stock in my garage.
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: Dan-o on May 16, 2019, 09:51:22 PM
Good grief.

You build some crazy cool stuff.

Expected velocity?
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: Biggerhammer on May 16, 2019, 10:41:56 PM
.22 195gr bullet!

What’s the BCs on that?

.600

Do the math on a .224 195gr Sierra MK with a BC of .600 @ 3100fps plus. 75gr @ 3600 plus.

WICKED, comes to mind.
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: b23 on May 16, 2019, 11:22:22 PM
Since the Creedmoor case is kinda an improved design with its 30 degree shoulder angle, if you blow it out to a 40 degree, maybe you should call it the 22 Creedmoorerer :tup:

It should be close to a 22-243 Improved.  I just had one built and picked it up last week, I can tell you what they'll do with an 80gr ELD-M and ballistically speaking, they're no slouch.
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: b23 on May 16, 2019, 11:46:00 PM
.22 195gr bullet!

What’s the BCs on that?

.600

Do the math on a .224 195gr Sierra MK with a BC of .600 @ 3100fps plus. 75gr @ 3600 plus.

WICKED, comes to mind.

Are you thinking it'll take something around a 2 or 3 twist to stabilize that "195gr" 22 caliber bullet?  I'm a little surprised the BC isn't something like 1.600 and I'm guessing it has an EXTREMELY longgggggggggggg bearing surface too.  A one hundred and ninety five grain 22 caliber SMK, you are absolutely right, WICKED, does come to mind. :chuckle:

Unless this is a new prototype missile of a bullet designed by NASA, I'll go out on a limb and bet you meant 95gr SMK not 195 because if it's not, that's a bullet worthy of being called a Boondoogle.  ;)
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: Biggerhammer on May 17, 2019, 07:51:38 AM
At the velocities a 6.5 twist will be optimal but a 7 will work just fine. For across the board performance the 88gr ELD-M is hard to beat.

Yes that 95gr! iPhone typo on the fly.
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: BULLBLASTER on May 17, 2019, 08:04:07 AM
Can’t wait to see a formed case!
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: jasnt on May 17, 2019, 08:12:05 AM
22 cutting torch :chuckle:
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: Biggerhammer on May 17, 2019, 08:24:25 AM
22 cutting torch :chuckle:

.22 Low Miles...
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: N7XW on May 17, 2019, 08:45:44 AM
.22 Lightspeed  :chuckle:
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: b23 on May 17, 2019, 11:04:05 AM
BH, is this going to be a AR build or a bolt gun build.
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: Biggerhammer on May 17, 2019, 11:30:19 AM
BH, is this going to be a AR build or a bolt gun build.

Bolt rifle. I probably  do a different reamer for the AR10. The current reamer has COAL with the 95gr that is too long to feed from a AR10 magazine. I could try the current reamer on a AR10 barrel and see how the lighter bullets like the current free bore.

The current reamer design puts the 95gr Sierra MK’s shank/boat tail junction right at the base of the neck for a COAL of 2.780 to kiss the lands.
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: b23 on May 17, 2019, 11:47:31 AM
I bought some of those 95 SMK's when they first came out and at the time was thinking about a 22-284 build but after talking to Sierra bulletsmiths, there was concern they would not survive the massive amount of RPM.  Those 95 SMK's are a VERY long bullet.

Are you doing a 22 Creed Improved just for something different, or, since you are having to fireform, have you given any thought to a 22-243 Improved and picking up a few more grains of case capacity to sling those 95's?
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: Biggerhammer on May 17, 2019, 12:09:11 PM
The length of the Creedmoor case is better suited for the length of the 95gr Sierra. You would have to seat the 95 fairly deep in the .243 case (Being longer) and intrude on the powder space (Pressures earlier) to have a COAL that will feed from a AICS magazine. The Creedmoor case works out perfect for the longer 95 and a COAL that will feed from a AICS magazine. Another bonus is the fact Alpha is making excellent large primer and small primer .22 CM brass. They are also producing .25 CM brass now.

I’m fairly sure I will run right with the .22-243 with formed cases (40 degree shoulder)using Alpha small primer brass which can handle higher pressures. We will see.
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: Biggerhammer on May 17, 2019, 06:32:08 PM
Just to put the .224 95gr MK into prospective.

77gr MK (Left)
95gr MK (Right)

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k269/landonmoses/Mobile%20Uploads/38DF195B-CDCD-4AE9-9922-8187A83BF4AE_zps44mhi97v.jpg) (http://s90.photobucket.com/user/landonmoses/media/Mobile%20Uploads/38DF195B-CDCD-4AE9-9922-8187A83BF4AE_zps44mhi97v.jpg.html)
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: CAMPMEAT on May 17, 2019, 08:17:36 PM
Pelosi Pounder.......
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: Biggerhammer on May 17, 2019, 08:21:06 PM
Pelosi Pounder.......

Yuuuuuuuck! 😷 🙃
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: CAMPMEAT on May 17, 2019, 09:50:02 PM
Pelosi Pounder.......

Yuuuuuuuck! 😷 🙃


It does have a certain " ring " about it..... :tup
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: Wingin it on May 18, 2019, 07:34:29 AM
.22 Annihilator
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: JJB11B on May 18, 2019, 08:35:02 AM
.224 AOC (full of hot air) and hopefully short lived
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: thinkingman on May 18, 2019, 10:51:38 AM
22 Thermite

Vegas has the over under at 250 rds
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: Biggerhammer on May 18, 2019, 11:28:54 AM
22 Thermite

Vegas has the over under at 250 rds

Vegas has always had a “Issue“ with math. 👍
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: b23 on May 18, 2019, 11:46:27 AM
I know a lot of this is just joking around but why are do so many get so wrapped up in barrel life.  If it's that big a concern, we'd all be shooting 223's or 308's.  As the gunsmith that built my very first rifle once told me, barrels are threaded for a reason.  :tup:

Besides, it's not like this is an extreme overbore setup so I'd imagine a 22 Creed Imp. should pretty easily see around 1000rnds of good shooting, and since I don't really think this is BH's only rifle, that's quite a bit of shooting.

BH, what powder are you thinking about using in this new creation?  I'll bet RL26 will be your best performer with regard to velocity.  The bad part is, unless you already have some, finding any RL26 will be the hard part.
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: BULLBLASTER on May 18, 2019, 12:01:47 PM
I know a lot of this is just joking around but why are do so many get so wrapped up in barrel life.  If it's that big a concern, we'd all be shooting 223's or 308's.  As the gunsmith that built my very first rifle once told me, barrels are threaded for a reason.  :tup:

Besides, it's not like this is an extreme overbore setup so I'd imagine a 22 Creed Imp. should pretty easily see around 1000rnds of good shooting, and since I don't really think this is BH's only rifle, that's quite a bit of shooting.

BH, what powder are you thinking about using in this new creation?  I'll bet RL26 will be your best performer with regard to velocity.  The bad part is, unless you already have some, finding any RL26 will be the hard part.
Because barre life is the “in” thing to talk about online right now.  :chuckle:
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: Biggerhammer on May 18, 2019, 12:17:48 PM
99% of guys talking about barrel life on a forum have never shot out a barrel and never will. :tup:

Yes. RL-26 is what I will start with. I can get it locally here on the East Side. I may have a partial bottle on hand.

I’m busy counting change I found under my truck seats at the time, to cover my special permit applications.😮😉
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: Dan-o on May 18, 2019, 02:04:00 PM
Seems like it might be the perfect antelope and/or wolf gun......   I mean if you don't shoot the barrel out while sighting it in.

Sure seems like it would be a hoot to shoot.
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: jasnt on May 18, 2019, 03:24:12 PM
Barrels are like tires. You’ll go through more with a hot rod but way more fun!
 :mgun: :whoo:  :mgun2:

Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: Biggerhammer on May 18, 2019, 05:24:35 PM
Peterson will soon be releasing .22 Creedmoor Match Brass. I begged, sniveled and whined long enough with them that they kicked me down some cases before their release.

I also like the Peterson 6.5 Creedmoor “Fat Neck” Brass. It is produced with a thicker neck. Specifically for shooters that like to neck turn. You can neck turn it to fit your factory chambers just perfect or your custom set up.


https://www.petersoncartridge.com/match-grade-brass/brass-rifle-casings/65-creedmoor-fat-neck/




(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k269/landonmoses/Mobile%20Uploads/FCB5EAA2-FF48-4951-A1B3-2998AED87B3E_zpsdp7gvyxg.jpg)[/URL]
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: jasnt on May 18, 2019, 05:37:54 PM
Squeaky wheels get greased. 👍🏻
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: Biggerhammer on May 18, 2019, 07:42:42 PM
I have a few to keep me busy while I wait for the .224 BleedMore.👍

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k269/landonmoses/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_9682_zpsxqerargl.jpg) (http://s90.photobucket.com/user/landonmoses/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_9682_zpsxqerargl.jpg.html)

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k269/landonmoses/Mobile%20Uploads/D5659B1F-7FD3-4177-92AD-44DBBF521B0F_zpswze847lc.jpg) (http://s90.photobucket.com/user/landonmoses/media/Mobile%20Uploads/D5659B1F-7FD3-4177-92AD-44DBBF521B0F_zpswze847lc.jpg.html)
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: BULLBLASTER on May 18, 2019, 07:46:15 PM
Is that 338 belted?
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: Biggerhammer on May 18, 2019, 08:08:07 PM
Is that 338 belted?

Yes. My 7.21 Sage is a blown out Improved 300 Win Mag case, necked down to 7mm. My go to load is a 180 ELD-X @ 3183. It has a higher impact velocity at 400 yards than a 7mm Magnum has at the muzzle with a 180gr bullet. It’s faster than a 7mm Ultra Mag and just 30 FPS or so shy of a 28 Nosler. With 74gr of powder(H1000)and I’m not pushing it as hard as it can go. The 162gr ELD-X run the same velocities as a 28 Nosler 3325 FPS with 77.1gr of H-1000. I’ve shot them at 3377fps with great accuracy but it was hard on brass.

Hovers at a 1/3 MOA @ 300 yards.

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k269/landonmoses/Mobile%20Uploads/3A987A56-7F13-4F09-B4EE-B5AB181BC0E2_zpsfzvkrkqr.jpg) (http://s90.photobucket.com/user/landonmoses/media/Mobile%20Uploads/3A987A56-7F13-4F09-B4EE-B5AB181BC0E2_zpsfzvkrkqr.jpg.html)


A friend was looking at one of my formed 7.21 Sage cases and said “How about we do the same thing as the Sage but stuff a .338 bullet in it and see what it does”. I thought what the heck, did some math for the free bore and the bullets we wanted to use and I ordered the reamer.

If it works out. I have a pile of new .300 Win Mag Brass I can use in three rifles. The .300 Win Mag, the 7.21 Sage and the .338 BSB. It will walk all over a .338 Win Mag and I want to see how it will run with my .338 Ultra and my .338 Edge.


From left to right. .338 Win Mag case, unformed .338 BSB, 7mm Mag case, formed 7.21 Sage cartridge.

Once the .338 BSB is fire formed, it will have the same case dimensions as the 7.21 Sage cartridge on the far right. We set this up to run from AICS Mags and both will run from a standard unmodified Rem700 Magnum Action.

To mute the “Belt” internet crowd. I can head space off the shoulder just as easily as the belt. I already own two beltless .338 chamberings.

   (http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k269/landonmoses/Mobile%20Uploads/929765E2-63A1-4E87-9ECB-23A422777834_zpsxcfjfeo7.jpg) (http://s90.photobucket.com/user/landonmoses/media/Mobile%20Uploads/929765E2-63A1-4E87-9ECB-23A422777834_zpsxcfjfeo7.jpg.html)

The Sage cartridge pictured is the 35 degree version. I also have a 40 degree reamer/version, along with a 40 degree die reamer. I haven’t chambered with it yet. I got the die reamer for the 40 degree version of the Sage so I didn’t have to wait almost a year for custom dies.

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k269/landonmoses/Mobile%20Uploads/A24FCD40-5FB5-49BA-A1A9-971A1460154B_zpszpp1vf3l.jpg) (http://s90.photobucket.com/user/landonmoses/media/Mobile%20Uploads/A24FCD40-5FB5-49BA-A1A9-971A1460154B_zpszpp1vf3l.jpg.html)
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: BULLBLASTER on May 18, 2019, 08:39:15 PM
I like it!
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: Biggerhammer on May 18, 2019, 08:47:06 PM
I like it!

Icing on the cake. A guy can just run the .338 BSB reamer  into a factory .388 Win Mag chamber, clean it up and improve performance considerably and not change anything else on the rifle. There are two .338 BSB customs being put together right now and I was thinking about picking up a Remington 700 AWR with the 5R barrel in .338 Win Mag running the .338 BSB reamer into it and seeing how it does.

Grabagun has the .338 AWR for $813.99

https://grabagun.com/rem-84556-700-awr-5r-338-ss-blk-cer.html
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: yorketransport on May 18, 2019, 08:59:12 PM
Is that 338 belted?

Yes. My 7.21 Sage is a blown out Improved 300 Win Mag case, necked down to 7mm. My go to load is a 180 ELD-X @ 3183. It has a higher impact velocity at 400 yards than a 7mm Magnum has at the muzzle with a 180gr bullet. It’s faster than a 7mm Ultra Mag and just 30 FPS or so shy of a 28 Nosler. With 74gr of powder(H1000)and I’m not pushing it as hard as it can go. The 162gr ELD-X run the same velocities as a 28 Nosler 3325 FPS with 77.1gr of H-1000. I’ve shot them at 3377fps with great accuracy but it was hard on brass.

Hovers at a 1/3 MOA @ 300 yards.

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k269/landonmoses/Mobile%20Uploads/3A987A56-7F13-4F09-B4EE-B5AB181BC0E2_zpsfzvkrkqr.jpg) (http://s90.photobucket.com/user/landonmoses/media/Mobile%20Uploads/3A987A56-7F13-4F09-B4EE-B5AB181BC0E2_zpsfzvkrkqr.jpg.html)


A friend was looking at one of my formed 7.21 Sage cases and said “How about we do the same thing as the Sage but stuff a .338 bullet in it and see what it does”. I thought what the heck, did some math for the free bore and the bullets we wanted to use and I ordered the reamer.

If it works out. I have a pile of new .300 Win Mag Brass I can use in three rifles. The .300 Win Mag, the 7.21 Sage and the .338 BSB. It will walk all over a .338 Win Mag and I want to see how it will run with my .338 Ultra and my .338 Edge.


From left to right. .338 Win Mag case, unformed .338 BSB, 7mm Mag case, formed 7.21 Sage cartridge.

Once the .338 BSB is fire formed, it will have the same case dimensions as the 7.21 Sage cartridge on the far right. We set this up to run from AICS Mags and both will run from a standard unmodified Rem700 Magnum Action.

To mute the “Belt” internet crowd. I can head space off the shoulder just as easily as the belt. I already own two beltless .338 chamberings.

   (http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k269/landonmoses/Mobile%20Uploads/929765E2-63A1-4E87-9ECB-23A422777834_zpsxcfjfeo7.jpg) (http://s90.photobucket.com/user/landonmoses/media/Mobile%20Uploads/929765E2-63A1-4E87-9ECB-23A422777834_zpsxcfjfeo7.jpg.html)

The Sage cartridge pictured is the 35 degree version. I also have a 40 degree reamer/version, along with a 40 degree die reamer. I haven’t chambered with it yet. I got the die reamer for the 40 degree version of the Sage so I didn’t have to wait almost a year for custom dies.

(http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k269/landonmoses/Mobile%20Uploads/A24FCD40-5FB5-49BA-A1A9-971A1460154B_zpszpp1vf3l.jpg) (http://s90.photobucket.com/user/landonmoses/media/Mobile%20Uploads/A24FCD40-5FB5-49BA-A1A9-971A1460154B_zpszpp1vf3l.jpg.html)

Or, you could have just done it the easy way and used my 338/375 Ruger reamer...... :chuckle:
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: Biggerhammer on May 18, 2019, 09:44:20 PM
Yes. But you already did it. :tup:
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: calib on March 13, 2020, 07:12:41 AM
What ever came of this chamber and project
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: yorketransport on March 13, 2020, 09:08:05 PM
What ever came of this chamber and project

I think it get banished to the corn fields along with Biggerhammer the last time he got banned. :chuckle: I'll see if he ever made any progress on it.
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: Cheif on March 13, 2020, 11:24:22 PM
Landon has too much time on his hands. 22cm doesn't need (improved)...
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: NWShooter on March 26, 2020, 12:56:34 AM
Landon has too much time on his hands. 22cm doesn't need (improved)...

I shoot with Landon here and there. I’ve watched the BS here and there. Have you shot with Landon?  Have any of you ever shot with “BiggerHammer?”. Please post if you have? He is far from a glory seeker trend, but well in the know. “Too much time on his hands” . ????? Maybe you should grab a cold one and sit down with him and talk wildcats chamberings.  I was there with “ BarberBob” when he smoked a Muley at 847 yards with  one  his 7mm wildcats.
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: jackelope on March 26, 2020, 06:42:44 AM
Hmmm....
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: jasnt on March 26, 2020, 06:54:34 AM
Some folks just don’t get it.  Probably never will. 
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: jackelope on March 26, 2020, 06:58:13 AM
Some folks just don’t get it.  Probably never will.

Oh I get it. Some folks definitely don’t get it and never will.

:hello:
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: jasnt on March 26, 2020, 07:35:44 AM
Some folks just don’t get it.  Probably never will.

Oh I get it. Some folks definitely don’t get it and never will.

:hello:
that wasn’t directed at you. 

Some folks are happy with common cartridges, off the shelf rifles, off the shelf ammunition. 
And that’s ok if your happy with that. 
some of us just want something different and more personal hands on approach

I can’t speak for anyone but my self but part of the fun for me is building it myself. Playing a role in making everything I possibly can my self and overcoming the obstacles you encounter, and getting the desired results in the end...... or not and it’s on to the next idea. 
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: jackelope on March 26, 2020, 08:36:02 AM
Some folks just don’t get it.  Probably never will.

Oh I get it. Some folks definitely don’t get it and never will.

:hello:

that wasn’t directed at you. 
 

Yeah I know. And my response wasn't directed at you.  A couple folks will get where I'm coming from.
 Really I shouldn't have replied. 
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: Karl Blanchard on March 26, 2020, 08:39:08 AM
Some folks just don’t get it.  Probably never will.

Oh I get it. Some folks definitely don’t get it and never will.

:hello:

that wasn’t directed at you. 
 

Yeah I know. And my response wasn't directed at you.  A couple folks will get where I'm coming from.
 Really I shouldn't have replied.
some of us definitely got it  :chuckle:
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: Bob33 on March 26, 2020, 08:52:57 AM
Some folks just don’t get it.  Probably never will.

Oh I get it. Some folks definitely don’t get it and never will.

:hello:
;)
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: h20hunter on March 26, 2020, 09:05:54 AM
Some folks just don’t get it.  Probably never will.

Oh I get it. Some folks definitely don’t get it and never will.

:hello:

that wasn’t directed at you. 
 

Yeah I know. And my response wasn't directed at you.  A couple folks will get where I'm coming from.
 Really I shouldn't have replied.

 :tup:
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: mountainman on March 26, 2020, 09:35:30 AM
Some folks just don’t get it.  Probably never will.

Oh I get it. Some folks definitely don’t get it and never will.

:hello:

that wasn’t directed at you. 
 

Yeah I know. And my response wasn't directed at you.  A couple folks will get where I'm coming from.
 Really I shouldn't have replied.

 :tup:
👍
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: jay.sharkbait on March 26, 2020, 09:37:24 AM
I get it......but really don’t care.
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: 7mmfan on March 26, 2020, 09:45:18 AM
I don't get it.  :o
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: yorketransport on March 26, 2020, 10:00:54 AM
I want to get things too!! I never get to be part of the cool crowd......  :'(
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: Bill W on March 26, 2020, 11:26:06 AM
I want to get things too!! I never get to be part of the cool crowd......  :'(

I don't need to be Creedmoor cool.  I have a .17 Ackley Hornet. 8)
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: Trooper21986 on March 26, 2020, 07:32:09 PM
Hey NWshooter , that was a good hunt , biggerhammer made a hell of a shot that day ! Love all the people who think they "know" biggerhammer . World of information gone over pettiness . Well , guess some people are content thinking they know , we'll just keep enjoying his wildcats ! Next time your up here we'll go see hammer for a good BS session ! I'm overdue !
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: yorketransport on March 26, 2020, 08:14:28 PM
Hey NWshooter , that was a good hunt , biggerhammer made a hell of a shot that day ! Love all the people who think they "know" biggerhammer . World of information gone over pettiness . Well , guess some people are content thinking they know , we'll just keep enjoying his wildcats ! Next time your up here we'll go see hammer for a good BS session ! I'm overdue !

Did you ever finish that 338 you were working on? I was thinking about that one the other day.
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: Trooper21986 on March 26, 2020, 09:05:05 PM
Sure did ! I am currently only shooting 230 eld-x , and started getting pressure at around 3140. So , we , biggerhammer and I , figure right around 3125 was the "safe" max .

Been a fun round and real easy to work up a load with ! 73 grains of 4831 in a formed case is the max charge ! Built it light , it's gonna get my next elk !
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: Cheif on March 29, 2020, 07:51:42 PM
Landon has too much time on his hands. 22cm doesn't need (improved)...

I shoot with Landon here and there. I’ve watched the BS here and there. Have you shot with Landon?  Have any of you ever shot with “BiggerHammer?”. Please post if you have? He is far from a glory seeker trend, but well in the know. “Too much time on his hands” . ????? Maybe you should grab a cold one and sit down with him and talk wildcats chamberings.  I was there with “ BarberBob” when he smoked a Muley at 847 yards with  one  his 7mm wildcats.

Oh wow!!! Let me guess, it was a 16" 2 x3??? Have any of landons "wildcats " gained any traction??? Nope.....

PS I've had a "cold one" with him, more than once....
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: Trooper21986 on March 30, 2020, 12:36:13 PM
Landon had a doe tag that year , yes I witnessed it and no , Landon could care less if they " catch on " . He doesn't do it for anyone but himself . If you've had a beer with him and haven't figured that out , I suggest having another one . I'm sure he'd love to talk about them more ! It's not about catching on , it's a personal issue , the "what would happen if " . I just wildcatter one off of the sage . It's done so well , I'm gonna do a sage to ! So are they catchy ? Apparently to someone who sees the value.
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: yorketransport on March 31, 2020, 09:02:56 PM
Landon had a doe tag that year , yes I witnessed it and no , Landon could care less if they " catch on " . He doesn't do it for anyone but himself . If you've had a beer with him and haven't figured that out , I suggest having another one . I'm sure he'd love to talk about them more ! It's not about catching on , it's a personal issue , the "what would happen if " . I just wildcatter one off of the sage . It's done so well , I'm gonna do a sage to ! So are they catchy ? Apparently to someone who sees the value.

 :tup:

I thought the whole point of having a wildcat was to be the cool kid with something different? :chuckle:
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: Trooper21986 on April 01, 2020, 07:42:30 PM
Exactly ! Something different ! Nobody else has , never new it "had" to be catchy ! I designed mine after talking to Landon about the sage ! It's similar , damn sure different ! Still want a sage though ......
Title: Re: .22 Creedmoor Improved
Post by: Trooper21986 on April 12, 2020, 07:05:32 PM
Yorketransport scratch that , I gave you the fireforming load ! I maxed out at 86 grains with a 230 for 3125 .
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