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Title: WDFW considers cutting responses to wild animals
Post by: wolfbait on May 23, 2019, 11:41:05 AM
WDFW considers cutting responses to wild animals

https://www.capitalpress.com/ag_sectors/livestock/wdfw-considers-cutting-responses-to-wild-animals/article_5cc83a50-7590-11e9-a5b9-bbf81fbe6a8f.html?fbclid=IwAR0bUxVj79ow6UyR6L-6yfFQquPmUBZ2f1j5NrDywd1l7ds-mc3evfMHr6Q


“People are frustrated,” he said. “I’m not advocating for this, but my district is on the verge of taking over that whole program themselves.”
Title: Re: WDFW considers cutting responses to wild animals
Post by: ctwiggs1 on May 23, 2019, 12:57:48 PM
Even better IMHO

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Kretz said Monday he has sympathy for Fish and Wildlife’s budget problem, but said the department should make responding to threats to property and public safety a priority.

“Tell me what they’re doing that is more important than that,” he said.
Title: Re: WDFW considers cutting responses to wild animals
Post by: Fl0und3rz on May 23, 2019, 02:51:38 PM
Great.  Just in time for the bears in the neighborhood to run amok.
Title: Re: WDFW considers cutting responses to wild animals
Post by: bigtex on May 24, 2019, 11:28:05 AM
https://hunting-washington.com/smf/index.php/topic,239434.msg3204061/boardseen.html#new
Title: Re: WDFW considers cutting responses to wild animals
Post by: rainshadow1 on May 24, 2019, 11:39:41 AM
COUNTY Animal Damage Control agents. If WDFW is going to drop responses due to the bureaucrats paying themselves more of our money, the counties could take it over, hire an ADC person, who could send written reports to WDFW about what they already DID, to take care of last week's problems.
Title: Re: WDFW considers cutting responses to wild animals
Post by: Bango skank on May 24, 2019, 11:46:13 AM
COUNTY Animal Damage Control agents. If WDFW is going to drop responses due to the bureaucrats paying themselves more of our money, the counties could take it over, hire an ADC person, who could send written reports to WDFW about what they already DID, to take care of last week's problems.

Stevens county has their guy ready to roll as soon as wdfw fails to act.  He and his dogs are ready.
Title: Re: WDFW considers cutting responses to wild animals
Post by: Goshawk on May 30, 2019, 09:43:40 PM
If a land owner has a bear or other game problem, then use the available hunting season to let a few hunters in to take care of the problem.  If you don't want to do that, then the WDFW needs to tell them to pound sand. That's what hunting as a wildlife management tool is all about. 
Title: Re: WDFW considers cutting responses to wild animals
Post by: Bango skank on May 30, 2019, 09:51:09 PM
If a land owner has a bear or other game problem, then use the available hunting season to let a few hunters in to take care of the problem.  If you don't want to do that, then the WDFW needs to tell them to pound sand. That's what hunting as a wildlife management tool is all about.

Yeah, a lion is killing your goats in july, just wait until september then let people hunt cougar on your property. Oh wait, thats a stupid non-solution.
Title: Re: WDFW considers cutting responses to wild animals
Post by: ctwiggs1 on May 30, 2019, 10:01:36 PM
That's what hunting as a wildlife management tool is all about.

Um, no.
Title: Re: WDFW considers cutting responses to wild animals
Post by: Goshawk on May 31, 2019, 10:07:24 AM
If a land owner has a bear or other game problem, then use the available hunting season to let a few hunters in to take care of the problem.  If you don't want to do that, then the WDFW needs to tell them to pound sand. That's what hunting as a wildlife management tool is all about.

Yeah, a lion is killing your goats in july, just wait until september then let people hunt cougar on your property. Oh wait, thats a stupid non-solution.

Not exactly.
That's where the Predation Hunter's list comes in.  It was used in the past for orchards and other crops when deer, elk, bear and even cougar were in need of immediate removal.  You had to be able to respond in a day with dogs or weapon to the place where it was occurring depending on the type of animal that needed removal.   No WDFW, Contracted Hunter or Dept of Ag Agents needed.
Title: Re: WDFW considers cutting responses to wild animals
Post by: Bango skank on May 31, 2019, 10:09:28 AM
If a land owner has a bear or other game problem, then use the available hunting season to let a few hunters in to take care of the problem.  If you don't want to do that, then the WDFW needs to tell them to pound sand. That's what hunting as a wildlife management tool is all about.

Yeah, a lion is killing your goats in july, just wait until september then let people hunt cougar on your property. Oh wait, thats a stupid non-solution.

Not exactly.
That's where the Predation Hunter's list comes in.  It was used in the past for orchards and other crops when deer, elk, bear and even cougar were in need of immediate removal.  You had to be able to respond in a day with dogs or weapon to the place where it was occurring depending on the type of animal that needed removal.   No WDFW, Contracted Hunter or Dept of Ag Agents needed.

Youre talking about a team of hounds showing up right off the bat.  The other dude sounded like he was talking about just letting any joe schmo recreational hunter hunt on your property whenever, or no help from wdfw.
Title: Re: WDFW considers cutting responses to wild animals
Post by: Special T on May 31, 2019, 10:25:16 AM
If a land owner has a bear or other game problem, then use the available hunting season to let a few hunters in to take care of the problem.  If you don't want to do that, then the WDFW needs to tell them to pound sand. That's what hunting as a wildlife management tool is all about.

Yeah, a lion is killing your goats in july, just wait until september then let people hunt cougar on your property. Oh wait, thats a stupid non-solution.

Not exactly.
That's where the Predation Hunter's list comes in.  It was used in the past for orchards and other crops when deer, elk, bear and even cougar were in need of immediate removal.  You had to be able to respond in a day with dogs or weapon to the place where it was occurring depending on the type of animal that needed removal.   No WDFW, Contracted Hunter or Dept of Ag Agents needed.
I like where your heads at but there is a problem with it. The damage management for elk in the Skagit valley cannot discriminate between locals, retired folks etc and the general public. As such they have people show up from Olympia  one weekend, and the landowner has to complain to get the next person on the list to have the elk. There is a series of problems with allowing hunters to solve the problem. From what I've gathered this is a departmenal/state rule/law problem that encumbered a hunter based solution 2c.  Some one else may have more details about  the inner workings of the elk damage program up here, and that imput would be awesome.

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Title: Re: WDFW considers cutting responses to wild animals
Post by: Goshawk on June 06, 2019, 04:28:12 PM
If a land owner has a bear or other game problem, then use the available hunting season to let a few hunters in to take care of the problem.  If you don't want to do that, then the WDFW needs to tell them to pound sand. That's what hunting as a wildlife management tool is all about.

Yeah, a lion is killing your goats in july, just wait until september then let people hunt cougar on your property. Oh wait, thats a stupid non-solution.

Agreed; You have the right to protect person and property 24/7/365.
My comment is more toward the timber lands than a goat farmer or fish hatchery.  Instead of charging the state $500 to remove a problem bear from a timberland, that company should only be compensated if they allow hunting.
Title: Re: WDFW considers cutting responses to wild animals
Post by: konradcountry on June 08, 2019, 07:59:01 AM
Well part of the problem is that there are a lot of California North types that call over every single bear or cougar.

In Sequim they flood the Sheriff's office with reports of hunters......during hunting season.
Title: Re: WDFW considers cutting responses to wild animals
Post by: WAcoyotehunter on June 08, 2019, 08:58:00 AM
COUNTY Animal Damage Control agents. If WDFW is going to drop responses due to the bureaucrats paying themselves more of our money, the counties could take it over, hire an ADC person, who could send written reports to WDFW about what they already DID, to take care of last week's problems.

Stevens county has their guy ready to roll as soon as wdfw fails to act.  He and his dogs are ready.
Wdfw has been pretty good about response.  They had a couple that were mishandled, but that seems to be the outliers.  They have taken a lot of cats from depredations in the last few years.
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