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Title: Son Draws Alkali Bull Tag
Post by: ArcherJack on June 12, 2019, 06:41:10 PM
My 15 year old just drew a Bull Tag Muzzy unit 371 and 334.  We just threw him in the drawing to get points and got a tag.  Anyone with a big heart want to help us out on recon I would appreciate it.  Good luck to everyone in the crazy lottery.
Title: Re: Son Draws Alkali Bull Tag
Post by: h20hunter on June 12, 2019, 06:44:54 PM
Welcome and congrats to your son. Full disclosure....lips can get tight on info but hopefully your son and you can get a few pointers. We as a collective need to pool knowledge when it comes to our young hunters.
Title: Re: Son Draws Alkali Bull Tag
Post by: ffhoofer on June 12, 2019, 06:47:44 PM
Sent you a pm
Title: Re: Son Draws Alkali Bull Tag
Post by: Karl Blanchard on June 12, 2019, 07:22:13 PM
Be forewarned, they have the busiest training schedule since the Korean war out there this year. Expect lots of area closures and limited access
Title: Re: Son Draws Alkali Bull Tag
Post by: Randonee on June 12, 2019, 08:34:43 PM
I spent a fair amount of time in there last year, and would be more than happy to share what I know. PM me if interested. 
Title: Re: Son Draws Alkali Bull Tag
Post by: Duckhunter14 on June 13, 2019, 06:29:18 PM
Be forewarned, they have the busiest training schedule since the Korean war out there this year. Expect lots of area closures and limited access

That's why I steered clear of this hunt this year. The Bio for the area said the center called and told their office this exact thing. Good luck! Start scouting and learning the area.
Title: Re: Son Draws Alkali Bull Tag
Post by: Maverick on June 14, 2019, 08:17:30 PM
I wonder if that's why they added unit 334 this year
Title: Re: Son Draws Alkali Bull Tag
Post by: benhuntin on June 14, 2019, 09:02:09 PM
I wonder if that's why they added unit 334 this year
They added 334 to a bunch of units.


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Title: Re: Son Draws Alkali Bull Tag
Post by: sagerat on June 14, 2019, 09:08:20 PM
I wonder if that's why they added unit 334 this year
They added 334 to a bunch of units.


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334 might be where itís at if the closures on YTC are as bad as Karl says...
Title: Re: Son Draws Alkali Bull Tag
Post by: Mfowl on June 14, 2019, 09:11:22 PM
Maybe it had something to do with an infamous court decision?   :dunno:
Title: Re: Son Draws Alkali Bull Tag
Post by: Killmore on June 30, 2019, 06:32:17 PM
Pm sent
Title: Re: Son Draws Alkali Bull Tag
Post by: Buzz2401 on July 03, 2019, 03:39:10 PM
Should be a good hunt congrats to your son.
Title: Re: Son Draws Alkali Bull Tag
Post by: Maverick on July 17, 2019, 05:07:24 PM
My 15 year old just drew a Bull Tag Muzzy unit 371 and 334.  We just threw him in the drawing to get points and got a tag.  Anyone with a big heart want to help us out on recon I would appreciate it.  Good luck to everyone in the crazy lottery.

You get the email from WDFW on monday about the unit?
Title: Re: Son Draws Alkali Bull Tag
Post by: Dry creek on July 17, 2019, 08:18:29 PM
Iím going to turn my permit  in and try again next year. Good luck to your son
Title: Re: Son Draws Alkali Bull Tag
Post by: Maverick on July 17, 2019, 09:22:09 PM
Iím going to turn my permit  in and try again next year. Good luck to your son

Which tag did you have out there? Itd be hard to turn in knowing it could be years before you ever draw it again...
Title: Re: Son Draws Alkali Bull Tag
Post by: Dan-o on July 17, 2019, 09:32:43 PM
I think I'd keep my tag......

Best of luck either way.
Title: Re: Son Draws Alkali Bull Tag
Post by: Dry creek on July 18, 2019, 11:47:51 AM
Iím going to turn my permit  in and try again next year. Good luck to your son

Which tag did you have out there? Itd be hard to turn in knowing it could be years before you ever draw it again...
I have the muzzleloader tag I had 22 points
Title: Re: Son Draws Alkali Bull Tag
Post by: Pegasus on July 18, 2019, 12:33:59 PM
Roll the dice. You already did and won. The odds of getting drawn again in future years is slim. Besides, the odds are pretty good with the way things are going internationally those soldiers might be deployed elsewhere, by hunting season, somewhere that they won't be practicing anymore.
Title: Re: Son Draws Alkali Bull Tag
Post by: ipkus on July 18, 2019, 12:39:20 PM
The odds say turning a tag back to WDFW is basically never a smart move if you actually care about going hunting.  Even a person with max points right now in most categories is bucking extremely low odds to draw a tag.  You will not just draw it again in a year or two if you turn it back.  You may die first.  Seriously.

Make the best of the situation and go kill a bull!
Title: Re: Son Draws Alkali Bull Tag
Post by: Maverick on July 18, 2019, 01:22:28 PM
Iím going to turn my permit  in and try again next year. Good luck to your son

Which tag did you have out there? Itd be hard to turn in knowing it could be years before you ever draw it again...
I have the muzzleloader tag I had 22 points


Yikes, that a lot of points at risk for a unit they might not even let you in! Hard to swallow that many points and not even being able to hunt. I could see why youd turn the tag in!
Title: Re: Son Draws Alkali Bull Tag
Post by: wheels on July 18, 2019, 01:34:22 PM
i have the disabled any bull and im keeping it  took 14 pts  so i know plenty of areas to look around
Title: Re: Son Draws Alkali Bull Tag
Post by: MtnMuley on July 18, 2019, 01:43:39 PM
i have the disabled any bull and im keeping it  took 14 pts  so i know plenty of areas to look around


You can know plenty of areas, but if they're all shut down like they're saying they could be, that knowledge is useless and 14 years down the drain. Hoping for the best for you though.
Title: Re: Son Draws Alkali Bull Tag
Post by: sagerat on July 18, 2019, 02:29:47 PM
i have the disabled any bull and im keeping it  took 14 pts  so i know plenty of areas to look around


You can know plenty of areas, but if they're all shut down like they're saying they could be, that knowledge is useless and 14 years down the drain. Hoping for the best for you though.

I agree. Every year itís a pain in the butt dodging training area closures. If theyíre offering a tag turn in it sounds like a guy could get screwed. Extending the season for you guys would have been a better option in my opinion.
Title: Re: Son Draws Alkali Bull Tag
Post by: huntnfmly on July 18, 2019, 04:03:16 PM
The odds say turning a tag back to WDFW is basically never a smart move if you actually care about going hunting.  Even a person with max points right now in most categories is bucking extremely low odds to draw a tag.  You will not just draw it again in a year or two if you turn it back.  You may die first.  Seriously.

Make the best of the situation and go kill a bull!

This
Title: Re: Son Draws Alkali Bull Tag
Post by: Karl Blanchard on July 18, 2019, 04:33:22 PM
Yes go kill a bull.......unless you can't actually access the instillation and then just visualize what it would be like to kill a bull :chuckle:
Title: Re: Son Draws Alkali Bull Tag
Post by: sagerat on July 18, 2019, 04:52:23 PM
Those permits include 334 this year, is there any opportunity there?
Title: Re: Son Draws Alkali Bull Tag
Post by: BULLBLASTER on July 18, 2019, 05:00:02 PM
Those permits include 334 this year, is there any opportunity there?
If your pockets are deep enough maybe
Title: Re: Son Draws Alkali Bull Tag
Post by: Pegasus on July 18, 2019, 06:51:51 PM
In this specific case if a permit holder turns the permit in will the WDFW re-offer the permit to the next alternate standing in line from the drawing?
Title: Re: Son Draws Alkali Bull Tag
Post by: ipkus on July 18, 2019, 07:21:43 PM
Yes go kill a bull.......unless you can't actually access the instillation and then just visualize what it would be like to kill a bull :chuckle:

Hey, if youíre happy with the possibilty of dieing with 40 regular bull preference points I totally agree.  By turning it back in he pretty much guarantees heís got lots of years ahead to visualize killing a bull instead of chasing one.
Title: Re: Son Draws Alkali Bull Tag
Post by: Mfowl on July 18, 2019, 08:20:56 PM
In this specific case if a permit holder turns the permit in will the WDFW re-offer the permit to the next alternate standing in line from the drawing?

I highly doubt the WDFW would do this.
Title: Re: Son Draws Alkali Bull Tag
Post by: teanawayslayer on July 18, 2019, 09:32:09 PM
In this specific case if a permit holder turns the permit in will the WDFW re-offer the permit to the next alternate standing in line from the drawing?

I highly doubt the WDFW would do this.
:yeah:
Title: Re: Son Draws Alkali Bull Tag
Post by: sagerat on July 18, 2019, 09:39:50 PM
In this specific case if a permit holder turns the permit in will the WDFW re-offer the permit to the next alternate standing in line from the drawing?

I highly doubt the WDFW would do this.
:yeah:

I believe the email says permit holders can turn the tag back in anytime prior to hunt starting. If thatís the case it would be tough to reissue them anyway.