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Title: Oregon draw results up
Post by: trophyelk6x6 on June 20, 2019, 07:53:23 AM
Nothing for me, 15 pts in elk and deer plus pronghorn.  There is some point creep going on for sure.  As of last year I should of pulled this year.  Hope I can keep up LOL
Title: Re: Oregon draw results up
Post by: vandeman17 on June 20, 2019, 08:11:14 AM
No permit for us but that was the goal.
Title: Re: Oregon draw results up
Post by: Crunchy on June 20, 2019, 08:33:26 AM
I started hunting Oregon in 07.  Wish I had started putting in for some of the good elk permits then, but didnt.  Now it is too late.  Odds are worse as a non res to draw some of the premier units.  I just go OTC and cannot complain.
Title: Re: Oregon draw results up
Post by: kselkhunter on June 20, 2019, 09:08:54 AM
I started hunting Oregon in 07.  Wish I had started putting in for some of the good elk permits then, but didnt.  Now it is too late.  Odds are worse as a non res to draw some of the premier units.  I just go OTC and cannot complain.

I grew up in Oregon. But my family didn't play the points game.  I didn't start building points until my late 30s.  And moved to WA in my 40s.  Kick myself as I could have drawn the big 3 elk at least once by now (when I was a res) or an antelope.  Luckily Oregon lets you keep your points and DFW number when you move out of state.  I'm now just banking points only until I move back to our OR residence.  Given the limited number of non res tags, point creep will keep me from ever likely drawing in the 75% pool on the hard to get tags as a nonres (and 25% pool draws are pretty much impossible on those harder tags).  Thankfully Oregon has decent OTC hunts. 
Title: Re: Oregon draw results up
Post by: theleo on June 20, 2019, 10:06:03 AM
I started hunting Oregon in 07.  Wish I had started putting in for some of the good elk permits then, but didnt.  Now it is too late.  Odds are worse as a non res to draw some of the premier units.  I just go OTC and cannot complain.

I grew up in Oregon. But my family didn't play the points game.  I didn't start building points until my late 30s.  And moved to WA in my 40s.  Kick myself as I could have drawn the big 3 elk at least once by now (when I was a res) or an antelope.  Luckily Oregon lets you keep your points and DFW number when you move out of state.  I'm now just banking points only until I move back to our OR residence.  Given the limited number of non res tags, point creep will keep me from ever likely drawing in the 75% pool on the hard to get tags as a nonres (and 25% pool draws are pretty much impossible on those harder tags).  Thankfully Oregon has decent OTC hunts.
I'm in a similar position but I'm in my early 30's. The only OTC option I miss in Oregon is hunting desert mulies with my bow. I burned my antelope points the year before I switched my residency and never built any elk points up. If I were a resident there's a couple of tags I could build points for and have fun with but I skip Oregon as a non-resident.
Title: Re: Oregon draw results up
Post by: Halo on June 20, 2019, 10:22:16 AM
Just more points for me, as expected, 5 for antelope, 18 for deer and 22 for elk.
Title: Re: Oregon draw results up
Post by: KopperBuck on June 20, 2019, 11:22:18 AM
I still wish they'd make you declare a weapon. I think that would help with some of the creep. But everything is going up. They tried splitting W Blues bear tag to spread people around.. ya didn't work. 5 points doesn't even lock up that tag anymore.

Wife drew a ML WT tag (pretty much guaranteed). I got the late ML WT for West Blues.
Title: Re: Oregon draw results up
Post by: kselkhunter on June 20, 2019, 12:48:59 PM
 Oregon doesn't have OTC muzzleloader hunts, or east side OTC deer rifle, and very limited east side OTC rifle elk. And most of the state is OTC for archery elk and deer.  So declaring weapon would be problematic for many residents on the east side that want to hunt every year as their family tradition....they would be forced to archery hunt  or drive hundreds of miles to rifle OTC. Wouldn't be fair to those east side residents. Portlanders could put in for rifle every year east side and then just hunt OTC near home of they didn't draw.
Title: Re: Oregon draw results up
Post by: KopperBuck on June 20, 2019, 12:52:09 PM
Oregon doesn't have OTC muzzleloader hunts, or east side OTC deer rifle, and very limited east side OTC rifle elk. And most of the state is OTC for archery elk and deer.  So declaring weapon would be problematic for many residents on the east side that want to hunt every year as their family tradition....they would be forced to archery hunt  or drive hundreds of miles to rifle OTC. Wouldn't be fair to those east side residents. Portlanders could put in for rifle every year east side and then just hunt OTC near home of they didn't draw.

I live on the eastside. I'm fully aware of what it means. I actually go to the westside and hunt some years if I don't draw. What you get is people putting in for rifle tags, not drawing, than buying archery as a backup. Which can bring up some other interesting issues... anyways, make em commit. It'll spread it out a little more. But I'm also a guy that doesn't like the fact I can draw LOP every year and still pick up points - and I can draw LOP almost every year. 
Title: Re: Oregon draw results up
Post by: kselkhunter on June 20, 2019, 12:57:00 PM
I'm also an east sider. I think the only way your idea works is if they make more permit only archery units, and make some OTC muzzy units.
Title: Re: Oregon draw results up
Post by: KopperBuck on June 20, 2019, 12:59:34 PM
I agree with the muzzy tags. Somewhat perplexed by the lack of choices.
Title: Re: Oregon draw results up
Post by: kselkhunter on June 20, 2019, 01:02:26 PM
Yes. It would be nice to have more muzzy tags. Take away a few OTC archery units and make them muzzy permits. That would be nice. Crazy how many OTC archery units there are. And I'm totally one of the guys that would put in for rifle then hunt archery for the years I was a resident. As a non res I just build points and archery hunt OTC.
Title: Re: Oregon draw results up
Post by: trophyelk6x6 on June 20, 2019, 02:25:14 PM
Just more points for me, as expected, 5 for antelope, 18 for deer and 22 for elk.

That 22 elk points could be interesting for a NR.........right in the big 3 wheel house I think.   
Title: Re: Oregon draw results up
Post by: vandeman17 on June 20, 2019, 02:28:54 PM
I have been on a hunt and along on a hunt in one unit that takes about 3-4 points to draw. Saw a lot of bulls and elk in general on both hunts but didn't notch a tag. Hoping we can both draw next year as its a pretty fun hunt
Title: Re: Oregon draw results up
Post by: spin05 on June 21, 2019, 04:54:46 AM
Drew N. Warner archery tag
Title: Re: Oregon draw results up
Post by: starbailey on June 21, 2019, 10:30:27 AM
I got a big zippo from OR.
Title: Re: Oregon draw results up
Post by: finnman on June 21, 2019, 08:58:00 PM
My wife also got a big zilch! Wyoming it is!
Title: Re: Oregon draw results up
Post by: nwhunter on June 25, 2019, 07:55:50 AM
Nothing in Oregon for me.. 19 points for elk...
Title: Re: Oregon draw results up
Post by: finnman on June 28, 2019, 06:48:28 PM
23 elk points for the wife....Mt. Emily some day...
Title: Re: Oregon draw results up
Post by: Mr Mykiss on June 28, 2019, 07:03:29 PM
Iíve still got these 16 Oregon antlerless points for sale...
Title: Re: Oregon draw results up
Post by: finnman on June 30, 2019, 04:50:47 PM
My wife has 24 antlerless points as well...still canít draw a Umatilla refuge buck tag.
Title: Re: Oregon draw results up
Post by: trophyelk6x6 on June 30, 2019, 06:18:45 PM
Oregon is going to change that "antlerless tag" stuff, the old 600 series antlerless will soon become true antlerless.  There was a couple units we took advantage of that allowed late rut muzz whitetails bucks.  That's gonna change. Our antlerless points are now that.
Title: Re: Oregon draw results up
Post by: trophyelk6x6 on June 30, 2019, 06:22:51 PM
My wife has 24 antlerless points as well...still canít draw a Umatilla refuge buck tag.

Call Paul and he will tell you no matter your out of state pts you will never pull that one. 
Title: Re: Oregon draw results up
Post by: KopperBuck on July 01, 2019, 12:15:40 PM
Oregon is going to change that "antlerless tag" stuff, the old 600 series antlerless will soon become true antlerless.  There was a couple units we took advantage of that allowed late rut muzz whitetails bucks.  That's gonna change. Our antlerless points are now that.

I dunno. People are pretty upset by it. Especially since they're leaving the Willamette tag in the 600 series. I'm going to the meeting on July 12th to let it be known. I wouldn't have invested the money in that series otherwise. They're getting push back.
Title: Re: Oregon draw results up
Post by: finnman on July 03, 2019, 10:36:20 PM
My wife has 24 antlerless points as well...still canít draw a Umatilla refuge buck tag.

Call Paul and he will tell you no matter your out of state pts you will never pull that one. 
I drew it in 2012 with 17 points. Missed a 34Ē wide 4x5. Biggest buck I have ever seen in the wild. I have been having her apply ever since.
A change in those points really would suck rocks.
Title: Re: Oregon draw results up
Post by: GBoyd on July 04, 2019, 08:21:19 AM
As always, the lesson is that you should never wait 25 years for a hunt. Burn your points early because things change.

I don't care either way about the Umatilla hunts, but I do wish they'd changed the Willamette hunt to doe only. There's already OTC rifle for a full month, OTC bow for two months, as well as undisclosed numbers of damage control permits. The farm I work for just killed another two last month. I don't see that we need another 3000 buck tags that run from September to February. I hunt that tag yearly through a LOP and I wish they wouldn't let me kill bucks.

With the land available, the Willamette valley could be an incredible deer hunting spot, like a west coast Iowa, if they killed does to keep the population low and make the farmers happy, but left the bucks to grow a few years.
Title: Re: Oregon draw results up
Post by: finnman on July 05, 2019, 09:18:53 PM
Actually, the lesson is there is always risk in waiting. When my wife and started saving points in the mid 90ís the intent was to draw a couple doe tags in central Oregon and go hunt with my mom. After a few years of 800 series points they combined it to the 600 series, thus sudd3nly making our 600 series totals very high. It was only then a hunt like Umatilla was possible.
This lesson is the same for every hunt. You never know when one particular hunt is going to change. Thus ending the chase.
I do not care about the Willamette unit or itís hunts. Itís never been a goal or concern.
As to waiting, a hunt can only be valued by the hunter willing to wait to hunt it. We cannot judge the value of any hunt through our eyes unless we are the applicant.
A 34Ē wide mule deer is in my mind worth the wait. I have never missed a hunting season applying for it nor gone to bed hungry spending application and license fee money for the points.
So I have not lost anything other than some cash, and thatís always replaceable.
Title: Re: Oregon draw results up
Post by: SI Eagle on July 06, 2019, 07:42:37 AM
Drew Snake River Elk tag after 16 years. Been scouting there in the past and will continue but any help or suggestions would be gladly appreciated. Thanks
Title: Re: Oregon draw results up
Post by: BUTTER on July 13, 2019, 10:10:17 PM
Did ot take 16 years to draw or first time applying for that hunt
Title: Re: Oregon draw results up
Post by: hoytxl2009 on July 14, 2019, 08:50:38 AM
Drew Snake River Elk tag after 16 years. Been scouting there in the past and will continue but any help or suggestions would be gladly appreciated. Thanks
Did you draw the rifle or archery tag?