Post by: WapitiTalk1 on July 09, 2019, 10:54:58 AM
https://cpw.state.co.us/Documents/Commission/2019/July/Item.16-BGSS.Final.Recs-July.2019.PWC.pdf (https://cpw.state.co.us/Documents/Commission/2019/July/Item.16-BGSS.Final.Recs-July.2019.PWC.pdf)
Post by: Karl Blanchard on July 09, 2019, 11:11:24 AM
Post by: Bigshooter on July 09, 2019, 11:25:35 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on July 09, 2019, 11:56:06 AM
Post by: idahohuntr on July 09, 2019, 01:42:46 PM
Post by: opdinkslayer on July 09, 2019, 06:00:45 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on July 09, 2019, 06:44:28 PM
The big bucks are gonna take a beating & Colorado quality will suffer in the long run :twocents:for the life of me I cant figure out this move. It makes zero sense across the board
Post by: opdinkslayer on July 09, 2019, 06:51:01 PM
Post by: mburrows on July 09, 2019, 08:09:32 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on July 09, 2019, 08:27:35 PM
Wasn’t their reasoning for adjusting it to reduce pressure without costing much opportunity? Doesn’t really make sense to move all the pressure closer to the peak rut.The big bucks are gonna take a beating & Colorado quality will suffer in the long run :twocents:for the life of me I cant figure out this move. It makes zero sense across the board
The residents may not like it since there is only one weekend in each season. It’ll be interesting to see if lots of point holders cash out in 2021 3rd season hunts too. Wouldn’t think it would cause too much prolonged creep though
Post by: mp.hunter on July 10, 2019, 07:46:25 AM
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Post by: sjhgraysage on July 10, 2019, 04:04:05 PM
I don't know if that is fact though?
Post by: idaho guy on July 10, 2019, 05:54:57 PM
Post by: meatwhack on July 10, 2019, 10:17:19 PM
Post by: greenhead_killer on July 11, 2019, 06:38:53 AM
Post by: Bigshooter on July 12, 2019, 07:24:03 AM
I thought I saw something about Colorado wanting to kill more buck deer to possibly help control the spread of CWD
I don't know if that is fact though?
:yeah:
Post by: Mr Mykiss on July 18, 2019, 09:56:11 PM
I’ve got 8 pets riding into this new series of dates. Still probably won’t get me the 4th season tag I’ve been chasing, oh well.Me too but from all da hubbub it sounds like 4th is the new 5th and 3rd is the new 4th so just adjust accordingly:)
Post by: Bigshooter on July 19, 2019, 07:58:55 PM
Post by: BeerBugler on July 19, 2019, 08:12:22 PM
Post by: actionshooter on July 20, 2019, 09:03:44 AM
Post by: Bigshooter on July 20, 2019, 02:54:10 PM
Commission approved a new rifle season structure for deer and elk west of I-25. Here's what it looks like with 2020 dates:
5 day first rifle elk only, starting first Saturday after Oct. 9: Oct. 10-14, 2020
9 day second combined deer and elk starting on Saturday 14 days after start of 1st: Oct. 24-Nov. 1, 2020
7 day third combined deer and elk starting on Saturday 14 days after start of 2nd: Nov. 7-13, 2020
5 day fourth combined deer and elk starting on Wednesday 11 days after start of 3rd: Nov. 18-22, 2020
Post by: Bigshooter on July 20, 2019, 02:58:13 PM
Post by: jetjockey on August 25, 2019, 04:16:09 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on August 25, 2019, 07:14:54 AM
I liked the first option better. To be honest, there’s WAY too many out of state hunters in CO. Most residents wish they would make elk a draw for all out of state guys. Not trying to bash out of state hunters, but most residents try to stay away from the OTC seasons because it’s just too damn crowded for elk, and the state completely screwed up the draw system, so now there’s going to be tons of point creep.you guys have THEEE best otc elk and no points/low points mule deer hunting in the lower 48. If a resident isn't having good hunts every year that is on them not non residents.
Post by: jetjockey on August 25, 2019, 08:22:21 AM
I liked the first option better. To be honest, there’s WAY too many out of state hunters in CO. Most residents wish they would make elk a draw for all out of state guys. Not trying to bash out of state hunters, but most residents try to stay away from the OTC seasons because it’s just too damn crowded for elk, and the state completely screwed up the draw system, so now there’s going to be tons of point creep.you guys have THEEE best otc elk and no points/low points mule deer hunting in the lower 48. If a resident isn't having good hunts every year that is on them not non residents.
It’s not a matter of having good hunts, it’s a matter of fighting the crowds, which have gotten ridiculous. Look at what you posted, of course we have the best OTC elk tags and low point deer tags. That leads to WAY too many hunters. Not only that, when they changed the point system, point creep started skyrocketing. Heres the interesting thing though, most the guys I know get their elk every year, and most of that is on private land, so the published success rates are very skewed. I was talking to my neighbor the other day, and two years ago in an area that had almost zero pressure the previous 10 years, they counted 31 horses go by. And that was 4 miles into the wilderness area. Most locals won’t hunt the OTC unit’s, and they rely on the draw, returned tags, land owner tags, etc. BTW. Around 90,000 out of state hunters come to hunt CO every year. You can’t even get away from the crowds in the wilderness areas.
Post by: cem3434 on August 25, 2019, 09:09:15 AM
Post by: jetjockey on August 25, 2019, 10:51:04 AM
Post by: cem3434 on August 25, 2019, 11:07:03 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on August 25, 2019, 12:14:14 PM
People in general like to complain and blame others for their short comings. There's too many non residents so that's the issue. Then when that gets capped and their tag fee's double they will scream about that as well. And leta not forget about the endless list of small towns who would become abandoned ghost towns or reduced to a few meth labs without the MILLIONS that NR hunters bring to those economies 🤦♂️
Post by: jetjockey on August 25, 2019, 12:20:16 PM
I stand by my statement. Residents act like they are the only ones who have to deal with NR. Guess what, NR affect NR hunters hunts too. For a decade I've been hunting CO, and in the "crappy" units with all the tags and NR hunters and never once have I had an issue finding a killing very quality animals. So like I said before, if a guy isn't filling tags and having a good hunt he need only look in the mirror to see the issue.
People in general like to complain and blame others for their short comings. There's too many non residents so that's the issue. Then when that gets capped and their tag fee's double they will scream about that as well. And leta not forget about the endless list of small towns who would become abandoned ghost towns or reduced to a few meth labs without the MILLIONS that NR hunters bring to those economies 🤦♂️
Are you aware of the application changes and what it’s done to the point system? BTW. Killing elk isnt the problem. And something tells me you don’t kill an elk every year like you claim.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on August 25, 2019, 12:28:38 PM
never claimed to kill an elk every year. I seldom even buy an elk tag. I'm a mule deer guy. But EVERY SINGLE SEASON I see bulls I could shoot. EVERY single year.I stand by my statement. Residents act like they are the only ones who have to deal with NR. Guess what, NR affect NR hunters hunts too. For a decade I've been hunting CO, and in the "crappy" units with all the tags and NR hunters and never once have I had an issue finding a killing very quality animals. So like I said before, if a guy isn't filling tags and having a good hunt he need only look in the mirror to see the issue.
People in general like to complain and blame others for their short comings. There's too many non residents so that's the issue. Then when that gets capped and their tag fee's double they will scream about that as well. And leta not forget about the endless list of small towns who would become abandoned ghost towns or reduced to a few meth labs without the MILLIONS that NR hunters bring to those economies 🤦♂️
Are you aware of the application changes and what it’s done to the point system? BTW. Killing elk isnt the problem. And something tells me you don’t kill an elk every year like you claim.
Yeah I'm tracking the app changes and creep is no more an issue now as it was 5 years ago. That's just the name of the game in every state. WY is even worse. I personally liked paying my cash up front and wish it was still that way but it's not, so I adapt, look for draw trend changes and get out ahead of it.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on August 25, 2019, 12:33:52 PM
Post by: cem3434 on August 25, 2019, 12:48:48 PM
I stand by my statement. Residents act like they are the only ones who have to deal with NR. Guess what, NR affect NR hunters hunts too. For a decade I've been hunting CO, and in the "crappy" units with all the tags and NR hunters and never once have I had an issue finding a killing very quality animals. So like I said before, if a guy isn't filling tags and having a good hunt he need only look in the mirror to see the issue.
People in general like to complain and blame others for their short comings. There's too many non residents so that's the issue. Then when that gets capped and their tag fee's double they will scream about that as well. And leta not forget about the endless list of small towns who would become abandoned ghost towns or reduced to a few meth labs without the MILLIONS that NR hunters bring to those economies 🤦♂️
Are you aware of the application changes and what it’s done to the point system? BTW. Killing elk isnt the problem. And something tells me you don’t kill an elk every year like you claim.
From the sounds of, neither do you and that's why you're pissy. I think Karl is spot on and you're just bitching to bitch at this point because you have yet to make any valid points on how non residents adversely impact CO other than "over crowding" of your PUBLIC LAND hunting spots.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on August 25, 2019, 12:52:28 PM
OUR public landsI stand by my statement. Residents act like they are the only ones who have to deal with NR. Guess what, NR affect NR hunters hunts too. For a decade I've been hunting CO, and in the "crappy" units with all the tags and NR hunters and never once have I had an issue finding a killing very quality animals. So like I said before, if a guy isn't filling tags and having a good hunt he need only look in the mirror to see the issue.
People in general like to complain and blame others for their short comings. There's too many non residents so that's the issue. Then when that gets capped and their tag fee's double they will scream about that as well. And leta not forget about the endless list of small towns who would become abandoned ghost towns or reduced to a few meth labs without the MILLIONS that NR hunters bring to those economies 🤦♂️
Are you aware of the application changes and what it’s done to the point system? BTW. Killing elk isnt the problem. And something tells me you don’t kill an elk every year like you claim.
From the sounds of, neither do you and that's why you're pissy. I think Karl is spot on and you're just bitching to bitch at this point because you have yet to make any valid points on how non residents adversely impact CO other than "over crowding" of your PUBLIC LAND hunting spots.
Post by: cem3434 on August 25, 2019, 01:26:21 PM
Post by: PlateauNDN on August 25, 2019, 05:06:56 PM
Post by: jetjockey on August 25, 2019, 06:29:08 PM
I stand by my statement. Residents act like they are the only ones who have to deal with NR. Guess what, NR affect NR hunters hunts too. For a decade I've been hunting CO, and in the "crappy" units with all the tags and NR hunters and never once have I had an issue finding a killing very quality animals. So like I said before, if a guy isn't filling tags and having a good hunt he need only look in the mirror to see the issue.
People in general like to complain and blame others for their short comings. There's too many non residents so that's the issue. Then when that gets capped and their tag fee's double they will scream about that as well. And leta not forget about the endless list of small towns who would become abandoned ghost towns or reduced to a few meth labs without the MILLIONS that NR hunters bring to those economies 🤦♂️
Are you aware of the application changes and what it’s done to the point system? BTW. Killing elk isnt the problem. And something tells me you don’t kill an elk every year like you claim.
From the sounds of, neither do you and that's why you're pissy. I think Karl is spot on and you're just bitching to bitch at this point because you have yet to make any valid points on how non residents adversely impact CO other than "over crowding" of your PUBLIC LAND hunting spots.
Let me explain the point creep system to you. CO changed the system two years ago and made it easier to apply for point. Units that USED to have 1000 applicants for 500 tags, now have 2000 applicants for 500 tags. That means a unit you could draw every other year, will now take about 4 years to draw. A group of guys my FIL used to hunt with from VA ran into it his year. Not enough guys in their camp drew, so they will be hunting OTC, which will put more pressure on OTC hunts. The change basically only affected out of state hunters, because they had to fork out $500+ for their tags before they drew, knowing they would get a refund if they didn’t. Residents only had to fork out $40 for a tag, so it was no big deal. Spending $600 for a tag knowing you might not get the money back for 3-4 months scares people off. CO changed the system so now you only have to buy a $40 qualifying license for out of state hunters. That nearly doubled the applicants over night. Time will tell how many hunters it will add to the OTC seasons, but my guess is it will be a bunch, as I know a group who’s hunting OTC for the first time in 20 years.
I also call BS to the guy who said he could have killed a bull every year. I know guys who hunted landowner tags for cows two years ago and didn’t see an elk until December, they didn’t get close all season, and that season is 3 months long. Outfitters don’t have that kind of luck, and some of them own the land they hunt on.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on August 25, 2019, 06:40:08 PM
Just a heads up you might want to think a bit before calling bs on guys like Karl. He is the real deal.
He has in fact killed an elk every year I’ve known him though not in Colorado, but both times I’ve been to Colorado we had opportunity’s at bulls in otc seasons and public land if we would have had tags.
Post by: jetjockey on August 25, 2019, 06:59:42 PM
Post by: cem3434 on August 25, 2019, 07:13:56 PM
Like others have said, you should be careful with calling out guys like Karl because you don't know anything about him. Get over yourself and go whine on monstermuleys because I don't think you're going to get much sympathy from your fellow hunters on this site. :twocents:
Post by: Karl Blanchard on August 25, 2019, 09:31:28 PM
You can call bs all you want, but I'd like to think my track record pretty much speaks for itself. I don't even go looking for bulls but can't get away from the damn things in CO. They really screw up a good muley spot :bash: that's where having a buddy around who does have an elk tag comes in handy :chuckle:
Post by: Bigshooter on August 25, 2019, 10:33:07 PM
Post by: jetjockey on August 26, 2019, 09:39:36 AM
This has gotten entertaining :chuckle:
You can call bs all you want, but I'd like to think my track record pretty much speaks for itself. I don't even go looking for bulls but can't get away from the damn things in CO. They really screw up a good muley spot :bash: that's where having a buddy around who does have an elk tag comes in handy :chuckle:
I’m not calling BE on your hunting ability, it’s just that weather, moon, hunting pressure, etc play a HUGE roll in CO elk. Two years ago we had full moons and 70 degree weather at 11,000ft. Nobody saw elk, and it wasn’t because they weren't good hunters. I know we’re several very nice bulls are right now, but who knows where they will be when the shooting starts! These two guys will be gone in about a month, and I see them every day! So, I don’t buy it when guys say they “could” kill an elk every year, even though they don’t buy a tag.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on August 26, 2019, 09:52:03 AM
I’ve been there and seen it with Karl, granted only two years but we saw bulls.
@coachcw killed this bull in a heavily hunted otc area 2 years ago in the full moon and heat.
Post by: jetjockey on August 26, 2019, 09:55:40 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on August 26, 2019, 10:24:03 AM
Post by: nwwanderer on August 26, 2019, 10:34:52 AM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on August 26, 2019, 10:49:26 AM
Might want to check out CO conditions, snow (or hail) one day may lead to 75 the next, very fickle climate that can have its way with you. Be careful out thereand snow can hang in that dark timber for a long time even if the weather warms. I found snow at 8k feet in the trees in Idaho last weekend and it was 81 out that day. That mountain life is a fun one :chuckle:
Post by: NWCoho on August 26, 2019, 12:56:35 PM
My hunting buddy has lived in the area we hunt for 37 years and the other is the local warden. They tell me how it was and the good old days but also tell me how the out of state rev really helps CPW and the area. I would think that's true in every state that gets some OOS hunters.
I think the biggest thing is as hunters we need to stick together if we all get into my state crap we will all loose something we love to do. We have seen it with trapping, hound hunting and gun laws. We all get the frustration of the points and seasons but all we can do is give them our 2 cents and move forward and enjoy what we get.
Those are a couple nice bucks thanks for sharing.
pic of last years elk. It was rather warm but still some snow.
Post by: jetjockey on August 26, 2019, 03:27:28 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on August 26, 2019, 03:58:25 PM
Post by: BULLBLASTER on August 26, 2019, 04:12:19 PM
Why would I buy an elk tag when I am go there to hunt deer :dunno: I could care less about bulls. There could be 350 bulls around every corner and I still wouldn't buy an elk tag. Those who know me, know that is not an exaggeration. I guess you know me and my successes better than all the guys chiming in who actually hunt with me or guys who know the camp :tup:I guess the bull in the picture i posted wasn’t actually shot at 990 yards either Karl. We’ve been fooled all these years. :yike: I am guessing we can assume the same for the buck I killed last year at 730 yards. Musta been like 230 or so. :chuckle: if I even killed it at all.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on August 26, 2019, 04:18:08 PM
I just wish I had my old phone because this thread would be 12 pages of CO stuff both dead and alive :chuckle:Why would I buy an elk tag when I am go there to hunt deer :dunno: I could care less about bulls. There could be 350 bulls around every corner and I still wouldn't buy an elk tag. Those who know me, know that is not an exaggeration. I guess you know me and my successes better than all the guys chiming in who actually hunt with me or guys who know the camp :tup:I guess the bull in the picture i posted wasn’t actually shot at 990 yards either Karl. We’ve been fooled all these years. :yike: I am guessing we can assume the same for the. Yak I killed last year at 730 yards. Musta been like 230 or so. :chuckle: if I even killed it at all.
Post by: jetjockey on August 26, 2019, 05:43:17 PM
Why would I buy an elk tag when I am go there to hunt deer :dunno: I could care less about bulls. There could be 350 bulls around every corner and I still wouldn't buy an elk tag. Those who know me, know that is not an exaggeration. I guess you know me and my successes better than all the guys chiming in who actually hunt with me or guys who know the camp :tup:
Your in the 1% of the 1%. Congratulations. You do what residents on private ranches have a tough time doing, and you do it at nearly 10x the state average, in OTC units none the less. Like I said, killing elk in CO is one thing, having a 100% success rate for 10 years in a row, well that’s just a little hard to imagine. Even the Ranching For Wildlife tags don’t have that success rate, because crap happens!
Post by: whacker1 on August 26, 2019, 05:56:09 PM
Post by: jetjockey on August 26, 2019, 06:19:37 PM
Why would I buy an elk tag when I am go there to hunt deer :dunno: I could care less about bulls. There could be 350 bulls around every corner and I still wouldn't buy an elk tag. Those who know me, know that is not an exaggeration. I guess you know me and my successes better than all the guys chiming in who actually hunt with me or guys who know the camp :tup:I guess the bull in the picture i posted wasn’t actually shot at 990 yards either Karl. We’ve been fooled all these years. :yike: I am guessing we can assume the same for the buck I killed last year at 730 yards. Musta been like 230 or so. :chuckle: if I even killed it at all.
Wait, you killed your bull at 990 yards? And that’s what you consider “kill an elk every year”? Well hell, if that’s the case, I could kill an elk every year off my back patio, during hunting season; with a tag!” And yes, I have permission to hunt it! But that’s not what 90% of hunters think when you say “kill an elk every year”!
This was taken off my back patio. And there was at least one 330”+ bull in the herd.
Post by: jjhunter on August 26, 2019, 06:21:19 PM
Post by: jetjockey on August 26, 2019, 06:35:48 PM
I’ve only killed 1 mule deer in Colorado on 6 tags. What percentile does that put me in? :chuckle:
That makes you a normal hunter, and about average for success rates. Considering all the private land tags, guided tags, etc, that’s actually not too bad if you did it on your own. Here’s a couple more that I “could” have *censored*. This guy was at about 750-800 yards. I don’t remember exactly, but there was no way to get to him. I don’t consider that an “opportunity” since I draw the line at 500 yards on my range finder.
Post by: kentrek on August 26, 2019, 06:45:35 PM
Post by: jetjockey on August 26, 2019, 06:55:28 PM
This is getting good :chuckle:
Here’s another group I was “in”. “In” being about 1200 yards! 🤣🤣
Post by: Jonathan_S on August 26, 2019, 07:08:06 PM
:peep:
Post by: Karl Blanchard on August 26, 2019, 07:11:12 PM
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. Trompsing around on private where you arent seeing elk because they haven't pushed down is insanity. Lots of ranching for wildlife and other private dirt sucks for elk unless the snow flies. If you arent into elk, go find elk. It's literally that simple. Weather too hot? Go higher and find the secluded timber they are using. Snow piling up? Find the migration corridors and transitional areas they hold up in. Elk are no different in CO as they are montana, Oregon, washington, idaho, or wyoming. You obviously know it all and are the master of CO hunting so I'll just bow out of this one. Someday I'll get it figured out and our camp will kill a few animals :rolleyes:
P.S. JJ is being a smart arz. Only reason he has eaten tags is he holds out for way above average animals. Pretty certain if he just wanted to fill a tag he would be 6 for 6 on those deer tags :chuckle:
Post by: BULLBLASTER on August 26, 2019, 07:21:53 PM
Reading comprehension man... neither Karl or I claimed to have killed that bull I posted. We were sitting there when our buddy did kill it tho.Why would I buy an elk tag when I am go there to hunt deer :dunno: I could care less about bulls. There could be 350 bulls around every corner and I still wouldn't buy an elk tag. Those who know me, know that is not an exaggeration. I guess you know me and my successes better than all the guys chiming in who actually hunt with me or guys who know the camp :tup:I guess the bull in the picture i posted wasn’t actually shot at 990 yards either Karl. We’ve been fooled all these years. :yike: I am guessing we can assume the same for the buck I killed last year at 730 yards. Musta been like 230 or so. :chuckle: if I even killed it at all.
Wait, you killed your bull at 990 yards? And that’s what you consider “kill an elk every year”? Well hell, if that’s the case, I could kill an elk every year off my back patio, during hunting season; with a tag!” And yes, I have permission to hunt it! But that’s not what 90% of hunters think when you say “kill an elk every year”!
This was taken off my back patio. And there was at least one 330”+ bull in the herd.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on August 26, 2019, 07:25:45 PM
and that buddy has killed more bulls at spitting distance with a bow (and really big bulls at that) than everyone commenting on this thread combined but yeah he is just a two bit hack of a hunter :rolleyes: can't believe they even let Coachcw participate on this forum he is so pathetic :chuckle:Reading comprehension man... neither Karl or I claimed to have killed that bull I posted. We were. Out sitting there when our buddy did kill it tho.Why would I buy an elk tag when I am go there to hunt deer :dunno: I could care less about bulls. There could be 350 bulls around every corner and I still wouldn't buy an elk tag. Those who know me, know that is not an exaggeration. I guess you know me and my successes better than all the guys chiming in who actually hunt with me or guys who know the camp :tup:I guess the bull in the picture i posted wasn’t actually shot at 990 yards either Karl. We’ve been fooled all these years. :yike: I am guessing we can assume the same for the buck I killed last year at 730 yards. Musta been like 230 or so. :chuckle: if I even killed it at all.
Wait, you killed your bull at 990 yards? And that’s what you consider “kill an elk every year”? Well hell, if that’s the case, I could kill an elk every year off my back patio, during hunting season; with a tag!” And yes, I have permission to hunt it! But that’s not what 90% of hunters think when you say “kill an elk every year”!
This was taken off my back patio. And there was at least one 330”+ bull in the herd.
Post by: BULLBLASTER on August 26, 2019, 07:26:48 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on August 26, 2019, 07:30:41 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on August 26, 2019, 07:33:26 PM
Post by: jetjockey on August 26, 2019, 07:38:27 PM
You crack me up. Pretty sure that isn't my bull and pretty sure I didnt shoot 990 yards. Hell I've never even shot an elk past 200 yards :chuckle: let's not confuse my ability to stumble into elk with others shots and harvests.
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. Trompsing around on private where you arent seeing elk because they haven't pushed down is insanity. Lots of ranching for wildlife and other private dirt sucks for elk unless the snow flies. If you arent into elk, go find elk. It's literally that simple. Weather too hot? Go higher and find the secluded timber they are using. Snow piling up? Find the migration corridors and transitional areas they hold up in. Elk are no different in CO as they are montana, Oregon, washington, idaho, or wyoming. You obviously know it all and are the master of CO hunting so I'll just bow out of this one. Someday I'll get it figured out and our camp will kill a few animals :rolleyes:
P.S. JJ is being a smart arz. Only reason he has eaten tags is he holds out for way above average animals. Pretty certain if he just wanted to fill a tag he would be 6 for 6 on those deer tags :chuckle:
Funny thing is, the year it was hot, we went higher! I spent 3 days glassing above tree line in a 5 mile radius. Still didn’t see elk. Guess what, we went into town for supplies and you know what we found out from the locals? Due to the lack of water and drought, they went DOWN! Down into the private land! The locals were amazed that they had already come out of the high country and down into their wintering grounds near the river where the water was. Locals who had been in the area for 40-50 years had never seen the elk down that early. Then again, they’d never seen a drought like that either.... BTW. I never said how many tags I’ve eaten or haven’t eaten. Your just assuming. I simply said I don’t believe that a person who could have had a tag if they wanted to, could have also had a 100% success rate over a 10 year period on OTC legal bulls. I fully admit I had a year when I didn’t see a thing. Why? Not because I didn’t know the area, escape routes, migration routes, timber etc.. We didn’t see elk because the elk weren’t there! And that’s just elk hunting. Now, you tell me why a month after peak foliage, there was still this many leaves in the aspen trees.
Post by: jstone on August 26, 2019, 07:39:19 PM
How about some digits.
8) :chuckle:
Post by: BULLBLASTER on August 26, 2019, 07:43:53 PM
Well sense that area sucks and you don’t kill much(509) 82.... wait was it phone numbers you want? :dunno: :chuckle:
How about some digits.
8) :chuckle:
Post by: Karl Blanchard on August 26, 2019, 07:44:33 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on August 26, 2019, 07:46:01 PM
Well sense that area sucks and you don’t kill muchhey old man you stay out of my area! It's at capacity with all these dang NR party crashers :chuckle:
How about some digits.
8) :chuckle:
Post by: jetjockey on August 26, 2019, 07:47:10 PM
That's 10 deer over 170, 6 of which were over 180 and 2 of those over 190 in 3 seasons. I rest my case that elk are dumb and interfere with good mule deer hunting. They need to give everyone elk tags so they can kill more of them and free up more habitat for mule deer :chuckle:
Looks like a lot of elk camps to me. Grant it, the deer aren’t as big, but they aren’t the target either. And we arent talking about deer. I never questioned your deer hunting.
Post by: Karl Blanchard on August 26, 2019, 07:51:43 PM
:rolleyes:
Post by: grundy53 on August 26, 2019, 08:09:37 PM
Killing an elk now and then, and being able to kill an elk every single year, are two totally different things. If you can, good for you! Your one of the 0.1%. But I don’t believe it when someone says they can kill an elk every single year, but they don’t even have tag. Reminds me of the guy who says he killed an elk at 500 yards, when in reality it’s a 250 yard shot. As far as seeing elk, I see elk every year as well, with the one exception of the year it was hot. And I don’t mean it warmed up a little after it snowed. I mean it was 80 in the valley, 70 at 11,000ft, and there hadn’t been any moisture to even knock the leaves off the scrub oak. Hunting with snow on the ground doesn’t constitute “hot”. Riding a horse wishing you had shorts and a tee shirt on in mid Oct because your sweating you balls off is hot. That doesnt mean I can kill elk every year. There’s a reason the average unit has about 12% success rate on bulls. So when someone tells me they can shoot a bull EVERY year, I find that hard to believe, even in CO. Btw. The first picture is my spotted at about 1800 yards. It’s the big white one in the middle. The second is at about 5 yards after he got caped. Seeing elk in CO is typically very easy, killing them is where it gets a lot more difficult.I've killed a branched bull every year for 11 years straight and that is in probably the worst elk state (Washington). Karl is a way better hunter than me. If he says he could do it he could. He's a different breed. You have the highest population of elk in the nation. They don't just dig tunnels or leave the state. They are there. If you can't find them hunt harder.
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Post by: High Climber on August 26, 2019, 08:34:06 PM
Post by: Karl Blanchard on August 26, 2019, 08:37:19 PM
I can pee way farther than all you guysthat may be true but my 7 year old would whip you in distance and longevity. I'm in awe at how he can drink one capri sun and then piss 130oz :chuckle:
Post by: High Climber on August 26, 2019, 08:39:16 PM
Ah the good ole days!I can pee way farther than all you guysthat may be true but my 7 year old would whip you in distance and longevity. I'm in awe at how he can drink one capri sun and then piss 130oz :chuckle:
Post by: grundy53 on August 26, 2019, 08:44:38 PM
Yup. I have three boys it's amazing.I can pee way farther than all you guysthat may be true but my 7 year old would whip you in distance and longevity. I'm in awe at how he can drink one capri sun and then piss 130oz :chuckle:
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Post by: actionshooter on August 26, 2019, 09:12:15 PM
Yup. I have three boys it's amazing.I can pee way farther than all you guysthat may be true but my 7 year old would whip you in distance and longevity. I'm in awe at how he can drink one capri sun and then piss 130oz :chuckle:
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I really miss those days... now I'm lucky not to stain my boots :)
No pissing contest here...
Post by: Mr Mykiss on September 08, 2019, 03:42:26 PM