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Big Game Hunting => Muzzleloader Hunting => Topic started by: Sabotloader on July 18, 2019, 11:05:34 AM

Title: WAY off Topic at First - but on Topic in the end
Post by: Sabotloader on July 18, 2019, 11:05:34 AM
The other day I was just dinging around and actually conversing with a guy at Lehigh - he asked me if I would like to try a new bullet they were building for Umarex.  What's Umarex I asked? it is a pellet gun! Well my interest kinda dropped in a hurry - pellet gun! What am I going to do with a .17 pellet!  Then he says it is a .510x238CF sabotless copper bullet!  WHAT!!!  Anyway I was a bit worried about the size .510 going down a ML bore, but that turns out to be OK also.

So I looked up the 'Pellet Gun' online - it does exist and it is 50 cal. And it is used for hunting - who would know.

(https://i.postimg.cc/tJvd0CxQ/Umarex-50-Pellet-Rifle.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/y6Ly3nrQ/Umarex-50.jpg)

The sample bullets arrived yesterday. So I did some checking this morning - I think they will work

(https://i.postimg.cc/8cYvKK2T/IMG-0002.jpg)

The drive barbs are .510 and the top band around the bullet is .502 - so they might actually work

(https://i.postimg.cc/zX9WTQwj/IMG-0007.jpg)

(https://i.postimg.cc/NjmXDxpw/IMG-0006.jpg[img]

[img]https://i.postimg.cc/nLKvF1D1/IMG-0001.jpg)

I have a little concern about trying them in my .501 bores but in the .502 Wolverine and the .504 White - they shouldn't be a problem.

(https://i.postimg.cc/7PtSZhfj/IMG-0003.jpg)

So hopefully I will get out to the farm and run a few through the Wolverine - They might really be good ML deer bullets???


Title: Re: WAY off Topic at First - but on Topic in the end
Post by: Oh Mah on July 18, 2019, 11:15:41 AM
Interested to hear how this test goes.What grain are they?
Title: Re: WAY off Topic at First - but on Topic in the end
Post by: Sabotloader on July 18, 2019, 12:11:34 PM
Interested to hear how this test goes.What grain are they?

They are 238 gr. om my scale... the thing is the way the bullet is cut this could be a very low recoil bullet for younger shooters at a reduced range. Yet they will also work at high velocity for us old fogies.

(https://i.postimg.cc/nLKvF1D1/IMG-0001.jpg)

I think Lehigh said 1000 fps to 3000+.

If they will load and shoot I will find out more.

Here is a video

I wish there wasn't as much advertising in it - but in the end it is exciting


Title: Re: WAY off Topic at First - but on Topic in the end
Post by: Oh Mah on July 18, 2019, 02:34:14 PM
Wow that is impressive,Hogs are tough and that dropped him in his tracks.  :tup:
Title: Re: WAY off Topic at First - but on Topic in the end
Post by: Rainier10 on July 18, 2019, 03:31:22 PM
Tagging along to see how this turns out.  Light recoil, 50 cal bullet for muzzy deer is sounding great for my youth hunters.
Title: Re: WAY off Topic at First - but on Topic in the end
Post by: Sabotloader on July 18, 2019, 03:44:42 PM
Tagging along to see how this turns out.  Light recoil, 50 cal bullet for muzzy deer is sounding great for my youth hunters.

That is exactly what I am thinking...  Because of the slit petals the bullet will operate a lower velocities.  You will not have to shoot this bullet at a high velocity as long as you maintain enough velocity and energy within the given range.

I hoping the winds that we are having today will be gone tomorrow so I can get out and shoot it for the first time.
Title: Re: WAY off Topic at First - but on Topic in the end
Post by: Dan-o on July 18, 2019, 06:10:32 PM
Cool.

Looks like an updated version of the air rifle Lewis and Clark had.
Apparently animals don't care if the bullet is driven by burning powder or comprressd air.


Title: Re: WAY off Topic at First - but on Topic in the end
Post by: Sabotloader on July 18, 2019, 07:09:20 PM
Cool.

Looks like an updated version of the air rifle Lewis and Clark had.
Apparently animals don't care if the bullet is driven by burning powder or comprressd air.

Shoot I am/was a History teacher and I forgot about that!  Again nothing is really that new...
Title: Re: WAY off Topic at First - but on Topic in the end
Post by: Dan-o on July 18, 2019, 08:42:57 PM
Yep.

I'll be interested to see your test results.