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Title: Go pro?
Post by: Bango skank on August 11, 2019, 12:52:39 PM: So im not seeing much of the info im looking for on go pro website. Maybe im just looking in the wrong places. How long of videos can they take? And they record audio, right? Thinking of getting one to record predator calling sessions. Recommendations on particular models? Hoping i can get one that will record at least 40 minutes.
Title: Re: Go pro?
Post by: Crunchy on August 11, 2019, 12:58:12 PM: I think I have a 32gig card in my Gopro 6 or 7. It will record for at least an hour or more at 1080p not sure how much on 4k. Batteries may not last that long if it is cold out.
Title: Re: Go pro?
Post by: Bango skank on August 11, 2019, 01:00:53 PM: Quote from: Crunchy on August 11, 2019, 12:58:12 PM
I think I have a 32gig card in my Gopro 6 or 7. It will record for at least an hour or more at 1080p not sure how much on 4k. Batteries may not last that long if it is cold out.

Records audio too?
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Post by: Crunchy on August 11, 2019, 01:40:56 PM: Yes although I am a slow learner and had my gopro in the water proof container when I first stated using it. that didnt record audio barely at all. So make sure you use the correct holder. I believe my new gopro is waterproof and doesnt need a holder that is water proof just for mounting to stuff.
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Post by: Mudman on August 11, 2019, 01:59:55 PM: On my list too. Get 7 black $400. Image stabilization is very good. Waterproof to 33ft. Top quality vids. :twocents:
Title: Re: Go pro?
Post by: Bango skank on August 11, 2019, 02:09:36 PM: Quote from: Mudman on August 11, 2019, 01:59:55 PM
On my list too. Get 7 black $400. Image stabilization is very good. Waterproof to 33ft. Top quality vids. :twocents:

Not concerned about waterproof. I just want it to be able to record video with audio for 40-60 minutes. And not be too heavy. Can you wear them on a strap like a headlamp, or do you pretty much neex sonething rigid like a helmet to mount it to?
Title: Re: Go pro?
Post by: KFhunter on August 11, 2019, 02:18:23 PM: I did this, you'll want to look at lens options or you won't hardly be able to see the predator you're shooting at. fish eye makes the predators very small and distant

I think I have the old gopro 3-4 and records like 720p :chuckle:

As for the duration it depends on the recording quality, if you're recording at 4k that is a massive chunk of memory and will require a HUGE sd card, back the recording quality down and you'll get longer times. Also 4k would require a lot more battery, I was constantly buying batteries and after market batteries trying to extend my sessions but only really got to 30 mintes or so. I was recording snowmobile movies, predator calling and other crap so I had quite a bag of accessories. I think for predator calling a scope mount with proper lens would be good.

Although I think I'd skip the go pro and just get a real vid recorder where you can use other memory options and external batteries..not to mention proper lenses and zoom. Models a few years old aren't bad.
Title: Re: Go pro?
Post by: KFhunter on August 11, 2019, 02:20:51 PM: My biggest weakness was putting it into a video format, editing video so people would actually watch it. That software was/is expensive and time consuming, that's where I failed miserably.

never did put much on youtube, then I lost interest.

but ya, all the go pro's have audio, but you can't put a wind sock on the microphone, nor record directionally.
Title: Re: Go pro?
Post by: Bango skank on August 11, 2019, 02:25:44 PM: Quote from: KFhunter on August 11, 2019, 02:18:23 PM
I did this, you'll want to look at lens options or you won't hardly be able to see the predator you're shooting at. fish eye makes the predators very small and distant

I think I have the old gopro 3-4 and records like 720p :chuckle:

As for the duration it depends on the recording quality, if you're recording at 4k that is a massive chunk of memory and will require a HUGE sd card, back the recording quality down and you'll get longer times. Also 4k would require a lot more battery, I was constantly buying batteries and after market batteries trying to extend my sessions but only really got to 30 mintes or so. I was recording snowmobile movies, predator calling and other crap so I had quite a bag of accessories. I think for predator calling a scope mount with proper lens would be good.

Although I think I'd skip the go pro and just get a real vid recorder where you can use other memory options and external batteries..not to mention proper lenses and zoom. Models a few years old aren't bad.

Most of my calling is up close in timber, so i would think it would show the critters fine out to 50 yards? And a scope mount isnt an option, as i dont want to used scoped rifles in heavy cover. Also, i want it mounted on my head, so its always pointed where im looking.
Title: Re: Go pro?
Post by: Alex4200 on August 11, 2019, 02:37:00 PM: I think you will be disappointed how small things look at 50 yards. But you can do some zooming with the editing software. I get very frustrated how long it takes to do quality editing in the software. And don’t forget to cover the red flashing recording light. First time I tried to record a duck hunt we had ducks flaring 200 yards out before we put the GoPro away.
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Post by: Crunchy on August 11, 2019, 02:43:52 PM: I believe the 6 and 7 allow some zoom. If you have a MAC/Apple computer or laptop they come with decent video editing which is what I use.
Title: Re: Go pro?
Post by: KFhunter on August 11, 2019, 02:50:12 PM: Well looks like the latest gopro is a whole new animal compared to the junk I had..

decent review might be a few nuggets of information here
Title: Re: Go pro?
Post by: KFhunter on August 11, 2019, 02:52:41 PM: Oh almost forgot, when the gopro is on your head you loose your target when you lean into your gun/bow for the shot. cock your head to the side about 30 degrees and target goes out of frame

just some of my old observations when I was trying to film with a go pro, we can't put them on a bow :bash:
Title: Re: Go pro?
Post by: KFhunter on August 11, 2019, 03:09:49 PM: My internet has been so horrible here at home lately I'd never get anything uploaded, at 1mbs upload speeds it would take all night and the next day to upload a small video shot at higher resolutions.

right now I'm getting about .9 to 1.8 mb/s download, I was getting 8+ but my ISP has gotten too many customers and throttling everyone. I went from 12mb/s down to 8 and now I'm going to change my billing to their lowest at 2mbs for $40 per month because I'm not even getting a true consistent 2 mbs

do a speed test bango, make sure everything is off and no one else is sucking up your bandwidth.

https://fast.com/
Title: Re: Go pro?
Post by: Bango skank on August 11, 2019, 03:13:17 PM: I dont even have home internet, just whats on my phone. Dont spend enough time at home to want to pay for it. Figured if i got a good video i wanted to post online id just take my laptop somewhere with wifi
Title: Re: Go pro?
Post by: emac on August 11, 2019, 05:15:36 PM: Quote from: Bango skank on August 11, 2019, 02:25:44 PM
Quote from: KFhunter on August 11, 2019, 02:18:23 PM
I did this, you'll want to look at lens options or you won't hardly be able to see the predator you're shooting at. fish eye makes the predators very small and distant

I think I have the old gopro 3-4 and records like 720p :chuckle:

As for the duration it depends on the recording quality, if you're recording at 4k that is a massive chunk of memory and will require a HUGE sd card, back the recording quality down and you'll get longer times. Also 4k would require a lot more battery, I was constantly buying batteries and after market batteries trying to extend my sessions but only really got to 30 mintes or so. I was recording snowmobile movies, predator calling and other crap so I had quite a bag of accessories. I think for predator calling a scope mount with proper lens would be good.

Although I think I'd skip the go pro and just get a real vid recorder where you can use other memory options and external batteries..not to mention proper lenses and zoom. Models a few years old aren't bad.

Most of my calling is up close in timber, so i would think it would show the critters fine out to 50 yards? And a scope mount isnt an option, as i dont want to used scoped rifles in heavy cover. Also, i want it mounted on my head, so its always pointed where im looking.
At 50 yards it will be tough to make out a coyote with a go pro.

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Title: Re: Go pro?
Post by: Katmai Guy on August 11, 2019, 06:10:26 PM: Check out Tactacam. Multiple ways to mount.
Title: Re: Go pro?
Post by: fowl smacker on August 12, 2019, 06:41:54 PM: If your intended targets are 40-50 yards out, you will not be happy with the quality. 10-30, you'd probably be ok. Wore mine on some deer and elk stalks and deer that were 40 yards out looked VERY small.
Title: Re: Go pro?
Post by: Bango skank on August 12, 2019, 06:48:18 PM: Well the responses on here are making me think i wouldnt be happy with the way this would turn out. Doesnt sound worth the $400 sticker price for the cam, plus whatever accessories. Just thought some good POV videos of calling in bears and yotes, maybe a lion, would be pretty cool, but sounds like the way i imagine the videos looking would be cooler than the reality of them. Guess ill hold onto my money. Does anybody have the new go pro 7?
Title: Re: Go pro?
Post by: KFhunter on August 13, 2019, 12:56:17 PM: let us know what you come up with, I kinda want to get in on it too and do some vids. Like I said I dabbled with it some and made some videos, ~~I think I may have posted one on HW? I'll see~~

say's video unavailable :dunno:
Title: Re: Go pro?
Post by: Wanderer on August 13, 2019, 06:30:04 PM: fun to have but for long distance recording like others have said it's tough to get detail. we've taken ours fishing where it's awesome but that's when it's within 15 feet. Also put it down inside a crab pot once to about 60 feet. pretty fun video to watch .
Title: Re: Go pro?
Post by: Tiger1358 on August 13, 2019, 07:33:24 PM: They're awesome. You can find the latest best model, Hero 7 black for about 350 or less. The older models are much cheaper but the quality is still awesome, if you wanna use it just for hunting. The higher models just have better stabilization for extreme sports and stuff. Get a couple of extra batteries and you should be good to go.
Title: Re: Go pro?
Post by: huntnnw on August 14, 2019, 09:30:02 PM: amount of money they want for go pros anymore Id rather spend it on a used vid cam HD and tripod
Title: Re: Go pro?
Post by: Bango skank on August 14, 2019, 09:33:38 PM: Quote from: huntnnw on August 14, 2019, 09:30:02 PM
amount of money they want for go pros anymore Id rather spend it on a used vid cam HD and tripod

A camera on a tripod isnt going to automatically look where im looking. I want point of view recording. Hence the interest in a go pro.
Title: Re: Go pro?
Post by: KFhunter on August 14, 2019, 10:19:44 PM: https://www.amazon.com/Canon-Camcorder-Battery-Charger-Stabilizer/dp/B01MZ8G3G2/ref=sr_1_7?keywords=Canon+VIXIA+HF+R80&qid=1565846012&s=electronics&sr=1-7

this is what I landed on for entry level hunt recording other than a gopro.

I get you want it hands free and that hero 7 does look good, but I think it takes a hand to zoom in in the hero 7 and there's still that head tilt thing to get past. I have a head mount strap and had to spin it 20-30 degrees to get it to aim right when shooting, almost to my temple. Archery wasn't so bad though.

So normally it was right in front on my forehead, then spin the head strap to aim in, then spin it back to forehead for any after shot footage.
if that makes since?
Title: Re: Go pro?
Post by: Mudman on August 15, 2019, 08:18:30 AM: Get the 7 black. Its great and fine for 40y bow shots imop. Very stupid law about attaching to bow. Wear on head n if your set put on bow then remove when done.... Its against law to jaywalk n spit too, right? Dunno but I think chestier mount would be ok possibly too? I really don't know how angry warden would be cause u are taking pics illegally? Tough call. Wrist mount on brace arm might be ticket?
Title: Re: Go pro?
Post by: ctwiggs1 on August 15, 2019, 09:30:35 AM: Hey Bango,

Would you consider going to a more modern gun with picatinny rails? You can mount a gopro on the side or underneath instead of on top and still use traditional sights.

Just a thought.
Title: Re: Go pro?
Post by: whacker1 on August 15, 2019, 02:22:49 PM: 7 has voice activated zoom and record as I recall. I haven't pulled the trigger on the 7, but it has been in the cart a few times.

want it to record some ski video.
Title: Re: Go pro?
Post by: birdshooter1189 on August 15, 2019, 03:23:22 PM: I recently got a gopro 7 intending to us it to record fishing/motorbiking/skiing/snorkeling. So far i'm just stacking up raw footage and haven't started editing it yet.

64GB card will record over 2 hours of 1080p video. Gopro batteries last about an hour. Spare batteries are about $18 each i think. You can also get a USB battery charging bank, take the battery out of your camera, and run a cable from the bank(in your pocket) to the camera and then have 20+ hours of battery life if you get a large capacity bank. (~$25 on ebay i think).

All gopro's have audio. The gopro 4 was not waterproof but was said to have great audio. The 5, 6, and 7 models are waterproof and audio is not as good. You can get audio adapters for the newer models and use an external microphone. You have to leave the waterproof cover open to access the plugs for microphone or external charging.

Gopro 7 black has "hypersmooth" stabilization. This is the main reason i went with the latest model. In my limited experience with it, I think it was worth it.

Gopro accessory packs can be purchased cheap on ebay or amazon. I got one that came with a chest mount, head mount (elastic band with a band that goes over the top too. Like a headlamp.), wrist mount, and various other mounts for about $25.

If you are trying to capture the hunting experience while you are on the move, then the gopro is a great option. If you want to capture a great view of the animal before, as, and after your shot, then something on a tripod with zoom will capture that much better. Like others said, animals will appear pretty small at not to far of distances.

If you search "gopro hero 7" on youtube you will find lots of good examples of footage shot with that camera. That should give you a good idea if it will show the level of detail you are looking for and at the distances you are expecting.
Title: Re: Go pro?
Post by: KFhunter on August 15, 2019, 04:34:05 PM: Hey thanks for the feedback :tup:

That hero 7 looks to have come a long ways from the older gopro's I'm used too
Title: Re: Go pro?
Post by: KFhunter on August 15, 2019, 04:42:08 PM: plop for consideration

https://solvidsystems.com/product/camstrap-premium-foliage-digital-camo/
Title: Re: Go pro?
Post by: Matth on August 16, 2019, 08:38:53 AM: Chris Jackson is a solid dude with a solid product. I some times wish i had more interest in filming my hunts, if i did Solvid is the direction i would go.
Title: Re: Go pro?
Post by: Commando on August 16, 2019, 09:30:59 AM: Bought the hero 7 silver at sportsman’s ware house for 200 last week. Just a gale add up you might find one there on a discount
Title: Re: Go pro?
Post by: KFhunter on August 17, 2019, 03:13:42 PM: Which would be best for YouTube?

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The one in blue is high as I can go and keep video stablization, tracking etc

See below:

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Title: Re: Go pro?
Post by: KFhunter on October 01, 2019, 06:31:54 PM: using my cellphone, was able to get 1080p 60hd not sure what "60hd" means but guessing frame rate :dunno: