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Other Hunting => Upland Birds => Topic started by: Commando on August 20, 2019, 04:20:10 PM

Title: over under recomendations
Post by: Commando on August 20, 2019, 04:20:10 PM
id like to get a over under. what's every ones choices? I know its all about how they feel in the store and all that but I was just curious as to what every one is using? I've been looking hard at the cz upland sterling or the Franchi instinct.
Title: Re: over under recomendations
Post by: jetjockey on August 20, 2019, 04:32:39 PM
Sorry, but CZís are Turkish garbage.  Get a used Miroku based gun for the same price. Mirokuís are 10x the quality of a CZ.  What guage and barrel length do you want?
Title: Re: over under recomendations
Post by: Commando on August 20, 2019, 04:35:46 PM
im wanting to get 28 inch barrel and a 12 guage. what I ultimitaly would like to get is the benelli828u or the berretta silver pigeon but don't have that kind of cash right now
Title: Re: over under recomendations
Post by: jetjockey on August 20, 2019, 04:39:20 PM
Here ya go.  Miroku builds most Browningís.   A CZ doesnít hold a candle to a Miroku.

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/shotguns/miroku-shotguns/bc-miroku-charles-daly-superior-grade-12-gauge-in-the-original-box.cfm?gun_id=101178783

Title: Re: over under recomendations
Post by: Commando on August 20, 2019, 05:18:39 PM
Thanks!
Title: Re: over under recomendations
Post by: Commando on August 21, 2019, 12:17:39 AM
What does everyone like for barrel length on over indeed?
Title: Re: over under recomendations
Post by: Henrydog on August 21, 2019, 06:46:11 AM
1) Jet Jockey is 150% correct
2) Barrel length is a personal thing.  In general shorter barrel swing fast.
3) What is your intended use?  Just birds a few times a year or shooting Sporting, skeet or trap.  All require different guns

I shoot competitive trap all over the place, and practice 2-3 times a week totaling about 15k rounds of 12ga a year.

All my friends are shotgunners, and a real shotgun is truly a very personal thing.  Fit is really the only thing that matters.   Once you mount one that is right, you will know.  It is like looking for a girl friend.  You will handle some turds until you find the right one.

 As Jockey stated stay FAR away from and Turkish gun...it will not hold up, and there is zero resale..zero.  I own several Miroku built Browning. 

The 828 is not getting good press as it is too light for heavy shooting volume and the safety is automatic everytime the gun closes. 

Honestly and Beretta or Browning is a working mans o/u and don't cost much more than the Turkish garbage. 
Title: Re: over under recomendations
Post by: Henrydog on August 21, 2019, 06:56:27 AM
https://www.joeletchenguns.com/new-guns/browning/citori-cx

This gun listing is way high.  There are used one on gunbroker for 1100ish

  My Teenager kid used to shoot this gun for 4H.  They were required to shoot trap, sporting and skeet. He also hunted upland with it.  He put 12000 down it in the course of 3 years, zero issues.  Only reason we got rid of it is upgraded and we used it as a trade in.  I believe it was $1299.99 at Cabelas during the summer of 2015. 

Neat thing about these is they shoot 60/40 and are 3" chambered.  They come with several chokes for different uses
Title: Re: over under recomendations
Post by: Commando on August 21, 2019, 07:47:42 AM
I did a lot of looking last night and really like the browning citori line. I totally understand the you know when you feel it, thatís how it was with my sbe2. Iíll have to do some waiting though tonreally try anything the store here in town has pretty much nothing instock. Iím hoping I can get to sportco this weekend to check some stuff out
Title: Re: over under recomendations
Post by: whacker1 on August 21, 2019, 08:07:02 AM
I did a lot of looking last night and really like the browning citori line. I totally understand the you know when you feel it, thatís how it was with my sbe2. Iíll have to do some waiting though tonreally try anything the store here in town has pretty much nothing instock. Iím hoping I can get to sportco this weekend to check some stuff out

p.m. sent on the citori
Title: Re: over under recomendations
Post by: 10mmg on August 21, 2019, 09:25:30 AM
Once you get to the Browning/Beretta/Benneli point it really is about fit. Look up http://www.fieldsportltd.com this guy offers a fit program in person but also has tips on how a gun should fit. It made me realize that the Browning o/u fit better than the beretta or benelli. However the benelli semi auto fit better than other brands. Donít get caught up on brand loyalty but what fits best.

As a side note I have a family member who could buy any shotgun in the world but he hunts with the Franci instinct for the last 15 years and loves it.

On barrels. For hunting I like 28Ē for clays I like 30Ē. If I had to choose one for all applications I would go 28Ē for the times you are hunting trees or cattails.
Title: Re: over under recomendations
Post by: Bluemoon on August 21, 2019, 10:14:25 AM
I just picked up a Charles Daly 1970 Miroku last week. 20 gauge 26 in. barrels 90% condition for 625.00. The deals are out there if you look.
Title: Re: over under recomendations
Post by: jackson7 on August 21, 2019, 10:17:20 AM
SKB another one to look at. Good luck
Title: Re: over under recomendations
Post by: nutntoit on August 24, 2019, 11:32:53 PM
Another vote for Miroku! I have a Miroku made Browning that I adore. I need to find a matching one in 20ga.
Title: Re: over under recomendations
Post by: Zuus on August 25, 2019, 05:12:06 AM
I've hunted a Ruger red label, first a 20 gauge that the thieves needed worse than me, then a 12 ga. I've had fair luck, shot a bunch, missed a bunch.
Title: Re: over under recomendations
Post by: duckmen1 on August 25, 2019, 06:29:58 AM
I've got one of them there garbage CZ drakes in a little girls guage. The ol .410. Have to say its one of my favorites. I love rocking big ol roosters and quail. I've had many trips that I've outshot everyone I was with. And others hunting the same general area. And the look on the elitist face when I head out with just the .410 and some shells, no dog is priceless when I show back up to the rig with my birds. It fits me well. Shoots well. And never malfunctions on me. But that's a piece of trash.  :chuckle: just having fun with you boys. But I do love my gun. Lots of options out there. Research a lot till you find whats right for you with your budget. But don't settle.
Title: Re: over under recomendations
Post by: pbg on August 25, 2019, 10:40:30 AM
Think about a Weatherby Orion, They are made by SKB and are around $ 850 - 1000 New Check the prices @ Buds gun shop on line. Free shipping  to your FFL and no tax.
Title: Re: over under recomendations
Post by: C-Money on August 25, 2019, 11:32:41 AM
Hard to beat the Browning Citori for a field O/U.
Title: Re: over under recomendations
Post by: jetjockey on August 26, 2019, 03:36:30 PM
Hard to beat the Browning Citori for a field O/U.

Yep.  And they say Miroku on the side of them.
Title: Re: over under recomendations
Post by: Lady Grouse hunter on September 22, 2019, 02:32:15 AM
I am buying a S. by S. Eibar from 1967 from D.J.'s Its 445.00 cash out 16 Gauge a nice Spanish made firearm. Will share pics in Oct. when I pay it off..
Title: Re: over under recomendations
Post by: Parasite on September 23, 2019, 01:52:51 AM
Do yourself a favor and look into the Browning Cynergy lineup. Love mine. Points better too.
Title: Re: over under recomendations
Post by: Bigshooter on September 23, 2019, 04:12:52 AM
Hunted with a browning citori 20ga for 10 years.  Then switched to a ruger red label 20ga.  I liked the ruger 20ga so much that I ended up buying a 28ga.  I love the 20 and the 28 both but i'd say the spilt is 60/40 on the 28 usage over the 20.
Title: Re: over under recomendations
Post by: T-Bone on September 23, 2019, 07:01:54 AM
I am buying a S. by S. Eibar from 1967 from D.J.'s Its 445.00 cash out 16 Gauge a nice Spanish made firearm. Will share pics in Oct. when I pay it off..

Congratulations! Look forward to seeing the pics. I'm a 16 Ga. nut; so Im envious...
Title: Re: over under recomendations
Post by: AspenBud on September 23, 2019, 12:20:34 PM
Cabelaís has a special run of the Winchester m101 for sale that sits around $1100. It is made in Belgium by FN. It is a good buy.

https://www.cabelas.com/product/WINCHESTER-OVER-UNDER-SHOTGUN-M-ULTIMATE/2896371.uts (https://www.cabelas.com/product/WINCHESTER-OVER-UNDER-SHOTGUN-M-ULTIMATE/2896371.uts)

For what they are CZ makes good guns but they can be on the heavy side. If you intend to pound clays day after day you should go to a higher grade gun however. For hunting they are great.
Title: Re: over under recomendations
Post by: Lady Grouse hunter on September 23, 2019, 09:59:55 PM
THANKS T-BONE! I got several comments when I went in to make a payment! Its a nice engraved SxS indeed..
Title: Re: over under recomendations
Post by: hookr88 on September 29, 2019, 09:56:36 PM
I purchased a Franchi Instinct SL last year in .20 gauge. I love it
Title: Re: over under recomendations
Post by: T-Bone on September 30, 2019, 07:17:39 AM
Think about a Weatherby Orion, They are made by SKB and are around $ 850 - 1000 New Check the prices @ Buds gun shop on line. Free shipping  to your FFL and no tax.

The new Weatherby Orions are made in Turkey; the SKB name is still alive (guns now made in Turkey), but the SKB plant in Japan is no more.

A used Weatherby or Ithaca SKB is a great gun and the new Turkish made Orion is still a nice gun, too. Sportsman's Warehouse had them on sale recently at a nice price.
Title: Re: over under recomendations
Post by: merkelman on October 02, 2019, 04:41:10 PM
Sorry, but CZís are Turkish garbage.  Get a used Miroku based gun for the same price. Mirokuís are 10x the quality of a CZ.  What guage and barrel length do you want?
to be fair, not all Turkish shotguns are garbage.  Akus is doing a great job on the sxs. Their new estate OU is very well made.