Post by: Commando on August 20, 2019, 04:20:10 PM
Post by: jetjockey on August 20, 2019, 04:32:39 PM
Post by: Commando on August 20, 2019, 04:35:46 PM
Post by: jetjockey on August 20, 2019, 04:39:20 PM
https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/shotguns/miroku-shotguns/bc-miroku-charles-daly-superior-grade-12-gauge-in-the-original-box.cfm?gun_id=101178783
Post by: Commando on August 20, 2019, 05:18:39 PM
Post by: Commando on August 21, 2019, 12:17:39 AM
Post by: Henrydog on August 21, 2019, 06:46:11 AM
2) Barrel length is a personal thing. In general shorter barrel swing fast.
3) What is your intended use? Just birds a few times a year or shooting Sporting, skeet or trap. All require different guns
I shoot competitive trap all over the place, and practice 2-3 times a week totaling about 15k rounds of 12ga a year.
All my friends are shotgunners, and a real shotgun is truly a very personal thing. Fit is really the only thing that matters. Once you mount one that is right, you will know. It is like looking for a girl friend. You will handle some turds until you find the right one.
As Jockey stated stay FAR away from and Turkish gun...it will not hold up, and there is zero resale..zero. I own several Miroku built Browning.
The 828 is not getting good press as it is too light for heavy shooting volume and the safety is automatic everytime the gun closes.
Honestly and Beretta or Browning is a working mans o/u and don't cost much more than the Turkish garbage.
Post by: Henrydog on August 21, 2019, 06:56:27 AM
This gun listing is way high. There are used one on gunbroker for 1100ish
My Teenager kid used to shoot this gun for 4H. They were required to shoot trap, sporting and skeet. He also hunted upland with it. He put 12000 down it in the course of 3 years, zero issues. Only reason we got rid of it is upgraded and we used it as a trade in. I believe it was $1299.99 at Cabelas during the summer of 2015.
Neat thing about these is they shoot 60/40 and are 3" chambered. They come with several chokes for different uses
Post by: Commando on August 21, 2019, 07:47:42 AM
Post by: whacker1 on August 21, 2019, 08:07:02 AM
I did a lot of looking last night and really like the browning citori line. I totally understand the you know when you feel it, that’s how it was with my sbe2. I’ll have to do some waiting though tonreally try anything the store here in town has pretty much nothing instock. I’m hoping I can get to sportco this weekend to check some stuff out
p.m. sent on the citori
Post by: 10mmg on August 21, 2019, 09:25:30 AM
As a side note I have a family member who could buy any shotgun in the world but he hunts with the Franci instinct for the last 15 years and loves it.
On barrels. For hunting I like 28” for clays I like 30”. If I had to choose one for all applications I would go 28” for the times you are hunting trees or cattails.
Post by: Bluemoon on August 21, 2019, 10:14:25 AM
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Post by: jetjockey on August 26, 2019, 03:36:30 PM
Hard to beat the Browning Citori for a field O/U.
Yep. And they say Miroku on the side of them.
Post by: Lady Grouse hunter on September 22, 2019, 02:32:15 AM
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Post by: T-Bone on September 23, 2019, 07:01:54 AM
I am buying a S. by S. Eibar from 1967 from D.J.'s Its 445.00 cash out 16 Gauge a nice Spanish made firearm. Will share pics in Oct. when I pay it off..
Congratulations! Look forward to seeing the pics. I'm a 16 Ga. nut; so Im envious...
Post by: AspenBud on September 23, 2019, 12:20:34 PM
https://www.cabelas.com/product/WINCHESTER-OVER-UNDER-SHOTGUN-M-ULTIMATE/2896371.uts (https://www.cabelas.com/product/WINCHESTER-OVER-UNDER-SHOTGUN-M-ULTIMATE/2896371.uts)
For what they are CZ makes good guns but they can be on the heavy side. If you intend to pound clays day after day you should go to a higher grade gun however. For hunting they are great.
Post by: Lady Grouse hunter on September 23, 2019, 09:59:55 PM
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Post by: T-Bone on September 30, 2019, 07:17:39 AM
Think about a Weatherby Orion, They are made by SKB and are around $ 850 - 1000 New Check the prices @ Buds gun shop on line. Free shipping to your FFL and no tax.
The new Weatherby Orions are made in Turkey; the SKB name is still alive (guns now made in Turkey), but the SKB plant in Japan is no more.
A used Weatherby or Ithaca SKB is a great gun and the new Turkish made Orion is still a nice gun, too. Sportsman's Warehouse had them on sale recently at a nice price.
Post by: merkelman on October 02, 2019, 04:41:10 PM
Sorry, but CZ’s are Turkish garbage. Get a used Miroku based gun for the same price. Miroku’s are 10x the quality of a CZ. What guage and barrel length do you want?to be fair, not all Turkish shotguns are garbage. Akus is doing a great job on the sxs. Their new estate OU is very well made.