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Title: Fall season turkey??
Post by: JasonG on August 22, 2019, 05:57:59 PM
So I struck out on my second spring turkey season this year. I was thinking about heading over to the NE corner towards the end of September to try and get a bird or two. I know that the calling game is over so would it just be run and gun style hunting? Any advice for a 3-day weekend hunt?   Thanks Jason
Title: Re: Fall season turkey??
Post by: baldopepper on August 22, 2019, 06:09:23 PM
You're only allowed 4 (2hens,2 Toms) so don't shoot too
  many. Good hatch, lots of birds. Still some pretty small poults around. Pretty much a spot and stalk hunt, but hard to drive very far early morning without seeing several flocks
Title: Re: Fall season turkey??
Post by: TheStovePipeKid on August 22, 2019, 07:25:48 PM
Not calling in the fall is a common misconception that continues to be prevalent. While your method when calling in the fall is different the goal is the same, to call in turkey. Pattern and ambush is my favorite method but you can still bust up flocks and call them back together. Check out the "hunt with written permission" section of WDFW website and make some new friends over in the Addy/Burnt Valley area. I would suggest you save the three day weekend for next year and try for five or six days so you can meet land owners and learn the area without feeling rushed. @russ mcdonald will most likely chime in at some point with some tips. I'll be headed over there the beginning of September with family for a week of death and vengeance. Good luck to both of us.
Title: Re: Fall season turkey??
Post by: JasonG on August 24, 2019, 08:34:06 AM
Not calling in the fall is a common misconception that continues to be prevalent. While your method when calling in the fall is different the goal is the same, to call in turkey. Pattern and ambush is my favorite method but you can still bust up flocks and call them back together. Check out the "hunt with written permission" section of WDFW website and make some new friends over in the Addy/Burnt Valley area. I would suggest you save the three day weekend for next year and try for five or six days so you can meet land owners and learn the area without feeling rushed. @russ mcdonald will most likely chime in at some point with some tips. I'll be headed over there the beginning of September with family for a week of death and vengeance. Good luck to both of us.
Ha Nice!
Title: Re: Fall season turkey??
Post by: Russ McDonald on August 24, 2019, 01:53:04 PM
I have been watching the post.  Going to do a fall Turkey hunting seminar aut Sportmans Warehouse  Saturday the 7th of September hopefully just waiting on time.   I will post more here.   In the fall calling is good but what your really doing is trying to be the boss hen of the flock.   She does most of the communicating in the flock.  So if you can sound like her turkeys will come to you.  In the fall is where the kee kee run comes in handy.  I feel one of the hardest calls to do.  Very rare to get Tom's to talk in the fall.  Bag limit in the 100 GMU's is 2 beardless and 2 of either sex.  Klickitat is now open OTC from September 28 to October 11 and that is 1 of either sex.

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Title: Re: Fall season turkey??
Post by: JasonG on August 25, 2019, 01:39:07 PM
I have been watching the post.  Going to do a fall Turkey hunting seminar aut Sportmans Warehouse  Saturday the 7th of September hopefully just waiting on time.   I will post more here.   In the fall calling is good but what your really doing is trying to be the boss hen of the flock.   She does most of the communicating in the flock.  So if you can sound like her turkeys will come to you.  In the fall is where the kee kee run comes in handy.  I feel one of the hardest calls to do.  Very rare to get Tom's to talk in the fall.  Bag limit in the 100 GMU's is 2 beardless and 2 of either sex.  Klickitat is now open OTC from September 28 to October 11 and that is 1 of either sex.

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Is that going to be in a Federal way?
Title: Re: Fall season turkey??
Post by: Russ McDonald on August 25, 2019, 07:31:54 PM
Yes at noon in yhe 7th.

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Title: Re: Fall season turkey??
Post by: Russ McDonald on September 06, 2019, 05:12:19 AM
Bump this up.  I will be doing a seminar on fall turkey hunting tomorrow noon at the Federal Way Sportsmans Warehouse.
Title: Re: Fall season turkey??
Post by: TheStovePipeKid on September 06, 2019, 05:55:53 AM
Russ,

Are you going to record this one and post it? I work tomorrow and can't make it out but still want to see what happens.
Title: Re: Fall season turkey??
Post by: Russ McDonald on September 06, 2019, 06:22:34 AM
I will see if my wife will do that.

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Title: Re: Fall season turkey??
Post by: TheStovePipeKid on September 06, 2019, 06:42:22 AM
My dad and my son went with me to the spring seminar with Russ and had a great time. Alot of new turkey hunters were there asking good questions. If anyone in the Federal Way area is planning to head out and do fall turkey I strongly recommend being there tommorow. I spent years in the woods learning the hard way until I joined the forum amd had access to the combined knowledge. I'm still learning good skills.
Title: Re: Fall season turkey??
Post by: Machias on September 06, 2019, 02:28:14 PM
The key to fall turkeys is patterning them and busting them up properly.  If you scatter them in several directions, sit down and wait a few minutes and start calling with an Assembly Yelp, you'll be covered up in birds in no time.  Throw in a few Kee Kee Runs and you'll have birds streaming back in and making some of the coolest sounds you'll ever hear.  Love listening to the Kee Kee Runs of the young birds as they try and regoup.  Good luck and be safe, lots of foilage makes this a dangerous time to hunt birds.
Title: Re: Fall season turkey??
Post by: Machias on September 06, 2019, 02:33:05 PM
One other thing, mature gobblers CAN be called in the Fall.  You have to know where a group of mature toms like to hang out and you have to bust them up good.  if they all fly away in the same direction, it's a no go.  Scatter them in different directions and you have a good shot.  You'll have to have incredible patience, but the occasional yelp will slowly draw them back together.  But when they come back in it will be slow and scanning.  Any movement and you will be busted.  They will just melt back on the scene.  Where I grew up in the Ozarks of Missouri if you kill a Gobbler this way on purpose, you are truly a master turkey hunter.
Title: Re: Fall season turkey??
Post by: Jharstad7182 on September 06, 2019, 06:24:18 PM
So is it frowned upon to drive around like grouse hunting and shoot them off the side of the unmaintained portion of the logging road caus thatís what I do in the fall and get my 4 in one weekend seems like every year. Thoughts? I get toms and hens this way
Title: Re: Fall season turkey??
Post by: Russ McDonald on September 06, 2019, 06:49:56 PM
Hunting is hunting no matter how you do it.  As long as it is safe and legal Fall is a conservation hunt.  Thinning the flock so to speak.  Another tactic isnto ambush them.  Know their travel path and setup on the path and wait for them.  Decoys will work to but only one hen is what to use if you do.  Most people don't use decous in the fall.

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Title: Re: Fall season turkey??
Post by: Tracker0721 on September 06, 2019, 07:06:17 PM
Jason, I can send you pins on OnX of where Iíve seen them here lately in 101. Really wish 204 had a fall turkey. Weíre on the border and have 3-4 dozen that lounge around
Title: Re: Fall season turkey??
Post by: TheStovePipeKid on September 06, 2019, 09:36:49 PM
Team Spokane of the WDFW have a nuisance list they put out by GMU. I've hunted multiple properties on the list and these are people who want the turkey removed so they are very accommodating. It's a great resource for new hunters to get some experience patterning fall flocks and working on communicating with land owners. I've found that in most areas where one person has taken the trouble of getting WDFW involved  the neighbors are usally open to hunting too if you are polite and squared away. If you are in the Spokane/Colville area in the fall you will see turkey. It's a great confidence boost for new hunters to get into birds when they are flocked, epecially if you got skunked first time out in the spring. I can share some pins as well with new hunters in 117.
Title: Re: Fall season turkey??
Post by: Mulie87 on September 08, 2019, 04:13:24 PM
Tagging in.

Heading to spokane this coming weekend. Iíve never had great luck hunting turkey in rain, but thatís what itís supposed to do sat-sun. This is my only free time to go. Any tips for hunting these guys in the rain? I hear they stay in the woods and out of the rain.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Fall season turkey??
Post by: Big game archer on September 08, 2019, 04:29:24 PM
Tagging in.

Heading to spokane this coming weekend. Iíve never had great luck hunting turkey in rain, but thatís what itís supposed to do sat-sun. This is my only free time to go. Any tips for hunting these guys in the rain? I hear they stay in the woods and out of the rain.

Thanks in advance.

A little rain doesn't seem to bother them much imo. They are in pretty large fall groups right now, so finding the hen/poult groups shouldn't be too hard if you are in an area that holds a decent number of birds. Finding tom groups on the other hand, can be difficult this time of the year.
Title: Re: Fall season turkey??
Post by: JasonG on September 08, 2019, 05:44:39 PM
Heading over the weekend of the 20th hopefully get on some birds!! Two hens, Two Toms/jakes if Im reading the regs correctly for the units in the NE corner?
Title: Re: Fall season turkey??
Post by: Mulie87 on September 08, 2019, 05:54:55 PM
Thanks! Hopefully the rain doesnít put a hamper on the hunt.
Title: Re: Fall season turkey??
Post by: Russ McDonald on September 08, 2019, 06:53:16 PM
2 of either sex and 2 beardless.  So you could get 2 toms and 2 hens or all 4 heans or 1 tom 3 hens but you have to for sure get 2 hens.

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Title: Re: Fall season turkey??
Post by: ljsommer on September 08, 2019, 07:37:23 PM
May be heading east last weekend in September, trying to break my streak of "being skunked by every huntable species in WA for 3 years running".
Title: Re: Fall season turkey??
Post by: linxx77 on September 09, 2019, 09:22:19 AM
Had a large group of about 10-15 come through the clearing on Sunday. 3 shots got me  2 hens and 1 Jake. After they scattered I tried calling them back. They actually started gobbling back! Thought that was pretty rare for the fall. Actually saw a few come back my way, and i was hoping to get a fourth, but they decided to go elsewhere.

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Title: Re: Fall season turkey??
Post by: Russ McDonald on September 09, 2019, 10:36:19 AM
Had a large group of about 10-15 come through the clearing on Sunday. 3 shots got me  2 hens and 1 Jake. After they scattered I tried calling them back. They actually started gobbling back! Thought that was pretty rare for the fall. Actually saw a few come back my way, and i was hoping to get a fourth, but they decided to go elsewhere.

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They will gobble but it is probably more of a warning or finding others.  It is rare though.

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Title: Re: Fall season turkey??
Post by: ljsommer on September 09, 2019, 11:22:43 AM
Are people walking roads to find these birds or are you setting up on a big field somewhere? I tried road-walking last spring but had a heck of a time getting situated in a way that wasn't moving too much or making too much noise.
Title: Re: Fall season turkey??
Post by: linxx77 on September 09, 2019, 11:38:49 AM
Are people walking roads to find these birds or are you setting up on a big field somewhere? I tried road-walking last spring but had a heck of a time getting situated in a way that wasn't moving too much or making too much noise.


Setting up In a field/open area that gets a daily traffic of birds. They spook too easy to stalk and shoot for me. I know people do it well, but I stomp through the forest no matter how quiet I try to be.


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Title: Re: Fall season turkey??
Post by: JasonG on September 09, 2019, 07:03:16 PM
Team Spokane of the WDFW have a nuisance list they put out by GMU. I've hunted multiple properties on the list and these are people who want the turkey removed so they are very accommodating. It's a great resource for new hunters to get some experience patterning fall flocks and working on communicating with land owners. I've found that in most areas where one person has taken the trouble of getting WDFW involved  the neighbors are usally open to hunting too if you are polite and squared away. If you are in the Spokane/Colville area in the fall you will see turkey. It's a great confidence boost for new hunters to get into birds when they are flocked, epecially if you got skunked first time out in the spring. I can share some pins as well with new hunters in 117.
How do you get a hold of this list?!
Title: Re: Fall season turkey??
Post by: TheStovePipeKid on September 09, 2019, 09:51:05 PM
Are people walking roads to find these birds or are you setting up on a big field somewhere? I tried road-walking last spring but had a heck of a time getting situated in a way that wasn't moving too much or making too much noise.

If you are hunting eastern Washington find the open fields and cattle ranches. Knock on doors and ask for permission to hunt. If you drive through these areas mid morning, say 10 through 1 you will usally see birds. When you spot a flock find the nearest home and make a new friend. I just spent all day meeting landowners and getting private access here in the Colville area. Great people and too many birds.

Team Spokane of the WDFW have a nuisance list they put out by GMU. I've hunted multiple properties on the list and these are people who want the turkey removed so they are very accommodating. It's a great resource for new hunters to get some experience patterning fall flocks and working on communicating with land owners. I've found that in most areas where one person has taken the trouble of getting WDFW involved  the neighbors are usally open to hunting too if you are polite and squared away. If you are in the Spokane/Colville area in the fall you will see turkey. It's a great confidence boost for new hunters to get into birds when they are flocked, epecially if you got skunked first time out in the spring. I can share some pins as well with new hunters in 117.
How do you get a hold of this list?!

Email teamspokane@dfw.wa.gov and ask for the nuisance list for the GMUs you plan to hunt. Alot of people in the Elk-Chattaroy area. Same people on the list for many years. Lots of turkey to remove.
Title: Re: Fall season turkey??
Post by: ljsommer on September 10, 2019, 08:28:43 AM
That sounds amazing but I'll admit, it's a little intimidating for me as a West-sider. I've had a heck of a lot of rejections and no acceptances. The idea of someone actually WANTING me to hunt on their land is very foreign/almost unbelievable!
Title: Re: Fall season turkey??
Post by: EWUeagles on September 10, 2019, 11:11:00 AM
That sounds amazing but I'll admit, it's a little intimidating for me as a West-sider. I've had a heck of a lot of rejections and no acceptances. The idea of someone actually WANTING me to hunt on their land is very foreign/almost unbelievable!

I knew a guy in college that at every party he went up to the hottest girl there and hit on. If he got a no he would move onto the next hottest girl and so on. I asked him once why he did that he said it's all about playing the percentages. He knew he wouldn't always strike out but all he needed was one. It's the same with knocking on doors. You're going to get more no than yes's but you still have to try and work the percentages. Nobody wants you to hunt their land but a bottle of booze, goose jerky or a friendly conversation might let you hunt their property.
Title: Re: Fall season turkey??
Post by: Machias on September 11, 2019, 10:28:19 AM
So did the goose jerky ever work for the Hot girls?  :)
Title: Re: Fall season turkey??
Post by: JasonG on September 17, 2019, 04:22:41 PM
Heading over to the North East this Friday. Has anyone been hunting turkeys this fall??
Title: Re: Fall season turkey??
Post by: TheStovePipeKid on September 17, 2019, 08:41:29 PM
Seven out of eight tags filled this past week. First turkey for everyone in my group except me. We spent a day and half scouting and five days killin'. Plenty of good fall turkey hunting to be shared by all.
Title: Re: Fall season turkey??
Post by: Lady Grouse hunter on September 21, 2019, 12:44:10 AM
Russ, thank you for these valuable tips indeed. I will be trying to ambush birds in a Sage brush setting. Lots of Desert birds over east...
Title: Re: Fall season turkey??
Post by: 253shotgunner on September 23, 2019, 07:55:51 AM
I just got back from NE WA GMU 117 and harvested my first two turkeys ever! Here is what I saw:
Friday scouting day:
Little Pend Oreille Nat'l Wildlife Refuge = 2 x 6 = 12 turkeys
Road to LPONWR = 20 turkey group trying to cross the road between houses
Private land scout = 6 turkeys in one group
Saturday hunting day:
21 turkey group = feeding on private land, knocked on door, got permission to hunt and harvested my first turkey ever! I shot it at just before 12 noon.
12 turkey group hens = feeding on private land on lower elevations as I scouted around further
Sunday final hunting day:
2 male turkeys = feeding on same private land and I harvested my 2nd turkey ever. Shot it at 7 am so that meant I only hunted for 50 minutes that day.

Bottom line: You need to scout your selected area, knock on doors and figure out their fall eating patterns. I saw approximately 73 turkeys in 2.5 days and I filled my two tags left over from my miserable spring turkey season. I hope this helps!
Title: Re: Fall season turkey??
Post by: JasonG on September 23, 2019, 05:04:20 PM
I went out this past weekend for my first fall turkey hunt . I spring hunted in 117 south Colville on public land . I was close on a few Toms but couldnít get them to commit. We hunted between Addy and Colville on 98 percent public land . I would guess I saw between 50 - 75 turkeys between Friday morning and Saturday night . I asked permission on two properties, one was very happy to have me hunt and welcomed me . The second owner to so much and was denied access. The reason was some one shot there cow turkey hunting last spring. Thanks A$$ clown. There property had a lot of turkeys. My friend and I both got a turkey on public land . We were just walking quietly down an overgrown logging road we a flock crossed in front of us about 30 yards ahead . They saw us and quickly headed down a very steep hill . I ran quickly up to the edge to see where they were headed. Luckily they just stopped there. I put my bead on the first full grown bird and fired and killed a hen from about 25 yards . My buddy was second to shoot taking another hen before the flock busted out of there. We both had gotten our first turkey and to boot it was his first hunt ever! I want to Thank Washington_backcountry for all the information and support with keeping at it !! I also want to Thank The Stove Pipe kid , for taking the time to give me spots to scout and private land to ask about permission!! 
Title: Re: Fall season turkey??
Post by: TheStovePipeKid on September 24, 2019, 06:04:39 AM
I've been waiting for your report Jason. What an exciting hunt! I'm glad you found success. Nothing like being a newer hunter taking out a totally new hunter and both notching tags.  I'm really enjoying all the successful turkey hunts from this year.  The best part is once you get in the groove and start taking birds it get much easier to take birds the next season. Keep it up. We saw over 200 birds in just a few days. They will continue to flock up on private land as the year progresses. I tagged four birds last year, the last two in late November as the snow was starting. If anyone is in the dumps from spring, go notch your tag on a NE turkey like Jason did.