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Title: First Lite, Sitka, Kuiu pants
Post by: troyspinetar on August 26, 2019, 09:35:42 PM
Looking for opinions on First Lite pants, Sitka, or Kuiu. I’m leaning towards First Lite Obsidian because they offer Tall length. I want an all season set up that can be worn in August and September but then can layer up and be worn in the winter as well.
Any opinions for anyone’s experience is appreciated.
Title: Re: First Lite, Sitka, Kuiu pants
Post by: mburrows on August 26, 2019, 09:57:23 PM
The obsidians are super comfy and I loved mine but they made it through a season and then were pretty much shredded. I really like first lite guide pants though. Liked my kuiu attack and guide pants as well. Cant speak for sitka.

The FL guide pants and pranta zions are my go tos.

All those brands/models are good for different situations though, doubt you'll be disappointed in whichever you decide
Title: Re: First Lite, Sitka, Kuiu pants
Post by: MtnMuley on August 26, 2019, 10:04:34 PM
All good brands, but I wouldn't pick the Obsidians strictly off durability and no hips vents for this time of year. The Sitka Mountain Pants would be choice if I didn't want vents. The Kuiu Attacks are the best overall pant made these days if a guy is just looking to buy a universal pair.  :twocents:
Title: Re: First Lite, Sitka, Kuiu pants
Post by: ThurstonCokid on August 26, 2019, 10:22:56 PM
I personally think the obsidean pant sucks.. i had a pair and followed the wash instructions took it out and it was extremely fuzzy.. i put it on and they went 3 inches above my boot.. emailed first lite and got them exchanged... so i bear Hunt one day with the new pair and they are completely shredded and the zipper on the crotch is blowing out. They look and feel great out of the wrapping paper but absolutely horrible quality


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Title: Re: First Lite, Sitka, Kuiu pants
Post by: ThurstonCokid on August 26, 2019, 10:24:54 PM
I did also have a pair of Kuiu attack pants and wore them a full season. Best pants I’ve ever owned.  For some reason i sold and got obsidians (bad decision) Also have been testing a pair of Kuiu tiburon pants. Only 2 days in field but great so far


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Title: Re: First Lite, Sitka, Kuiu pants
Post by: bigdub257 on August 26, 2019, 10:26:43 PM
Attacks.  You won't be disappointed.
Title: Re: First Lite, Sitka, Kuiu pants
Post by: pashok23 on August 26, 2019, 10:29:14 PM
Attacks.  You won't be disappointed.
:yeah:
Title: Re: First Lite, Sitka, Kuiu pants
Post by: lewy on August 26, 2019, 10:58:02 PM
Kuiu tiburon (sp?) or attack are the $hit :twocents:
Title: Re: First Lite, Sitka, Kuiu pants
Post by: Crunchy on August 27, 2019, 12:59:51 AM
I had attack pants and sold them for the pro pants.  I prefer the padded knees.  Both are awesome pants.
Title: Re: First Lite, Sitka, Kuiu pants
Post by: JBar on August 27, 2019, 03:31:53 AM
Attacks would be my choice for use from sept-november.
Title: Re: First Lite, Sitka, Kuiu pants
Post by: Lemoore-on on August 27, 2019, 05:06:14 AM
Another recommendation for the attack pants here & the Kutana pants seem pretty good too.   
Title: Re: First Lite, Sitka, Kuiu pants
Post by: Skyvalhunter on August 27, 2019, 05:10:55 AM
I believe Kuiu is having a sale this Labor day
Title: Re: First Lite, Sitka, Kuiu pants
Post by: opdinkslayer on August 27, 2019, 05:58:36 AM
Attacks for sure & pro if you want knee pads & a touch more durability.
Title: Re: First Lite, Sitka, Kuiu pants
Post by: T-Dozzer on September 15, 2019, 05:24:26 PM
Im usually a sitka guy, but really liking my Stone Glacier De Havilland pant thus far.
Title: Re: First Lite, Sitka, Kuiu pants
Post by: mainer78 on September 18, 2019, 11:14:43 AM
Any of you KUIU guy have a coupon code.  I'm looking to pick up some Outer layers and a pack.
Title: Re: First Lite, Sitka, Kuiu pants
Post by: carpsniperg2 on September 18, 2019, 01:11:55 PM
Just sent you a pm, anyone else looking for 50.00 off there first kuiu order let me know and I will send you a discount code.
Title: Re: First Lite, Sitka, Kuiu pants
Post by: stlusn30-06 on September 18, 2019, 02:30:06 PM
Here's a little secret. The Prana Zion Stretch pant is built of similar 4 way stretch fabric of all the pants you're considering. DWR coated etc....They may be a bit light for deep winter hunts, but most of these are. Prana's are used by a lot of mountain and rock climbers etc...They've been tested and they're $100 less, cuz they don't come from one of these companies. Just to clarify I'm not a hater, I own dozens of products from the companies you mentioned combined.
https://www.backcountry.com/prana-stretch-zion-pant-mens
Title: Re: First Lite, Sitka, Kuiu pants
Post by: wastickslinger on September 18, 2019, 02:44:33 PM
Obsidian are awesome loungers around the house. Dont beat brush or you will shred them. Kuiu Katana stretch or attack durable and comfy.  Also love the Prana zion stretch
Title: Re: First Lite, Sitka, Kuiu pants
Post by: Bango skank on September 18, 2019, 02:46:51 PM
Here's a little secret. The Prana Zion Stretch pant is built of similar 4 way stretch fabric of all the pants you're considering. DWR coated etc....They may be a bit light for deep winter hunts, but most of these are.
https://www.backcountry.com/prana-stretch-zion-pant-mens

They make the winter zion too.  I use a merino base layer and a pair of winter zions for shed hunting / hiking / predator hunting in the winter.
Title: Re: First Lite, Sitka, Kuiu pants
Post by: T-Dozzer on September 21, 2019, 09:10:53 AM
Here's a little secret. The Prana Zion Stretch pant is built of similar 4 way stretch fabric of all the pants you're considering. DWR coated etc....They may be a bit light for deep winter hunts, but most of these are. Prana's are used by a lot of mountain and rock climbers etc...They've been tested and they're $100 less, cuz they don't come from one of these companies. Just to clarify I'm not a hater, I own dozens of products from the companies you mentioned combined.
https://www.backcountry.com/prana-stretch-zion-pant-mens

Ptana are nice. I have 4 sets, but when they get wet, they sag & stretch too much
You sure they have DWR coating? all mine soak up moisture. 
Title: Re: First Lite, Sitka, Kuiu pants
Post by: Mfowl on September 21, 2019, 09:38:07 AM
I have Sitka Timberline and Mountain pants. Love them both. Comfy, quiet, durable and do well in shedding dew/moisture from the vegetation in the morning. This archery season was a bit cooler than normal but I did not over heat at all while out and about.
Title: Re: First Lite, Sitka, Kuiu pants
Post by: RB on September 22, 2019, 06:40:21 PM
All good brands, but I wouldn't pick the Obsidians strictly off durability and no hips vents for this time of year. The Sitka Mountain Pants would be choice if I didn't want vents. The Kuiu Attacks are the best overall pant made these days if a guy is just looking to buy a universal pair.  :twocents:

 :yeah:


Sitka Mountain pants are the best hunting pants I have ever owned period!
Title: Re: First Lite, Sitka, Kuiu pants
Post by: stlusn30-06 on September 24, 2019, 12:50:08 PM
Here's a little secret. The Prana Zion Stretch pant is built of similar 4 way stretch fabric of all the pants you're considering. DWR coated etc....They may be a bit light for deep winter hunts, but most of these are. Prana's are used by a lot of mountain and rock climbers etc...They've been tested and they're $100 less, cuz they don't come from one of these companies. Just to clarify I'm not a hater, I own dozens of products from the companies you mentioned combined.
https://www.backcountry.com/prana-stretch-zion-pant-mens

Ptana are nice. I have 4 sets, but when they get wet, they sag & stretch too much
You sure they have DWR coating? all mine soak up moisture.

Yeah. They have it for sure. DWR only goes so far. Light light drizzle and it'll bead. Pounding wet brush, you're getting wet. I don't think the prana's beat out the Attack pant, but you can find em on sale for $59 multiple times a year on various sites. For the price they're unbeatable, and you're only getting a mild performance improvement on Attacks vs Prana.

If you really want the best of the best: https://www.us-elitegear.com/collections/outdoor-research/products/outdoor-research-infiltrator-pants-multicam-usa
Title: Re: First Lite, Sitka, Kuiu pants
Post by: HikerHunter on September 24, 2019, 01:40:49 PM
The Sitka Ascent pants are super lightweight, breathe really well, and dry out fast. I've been thoroughly impressed with them. You would definitely need to layer when the temperature drops.
Title: Re: First Lite, Sitka, Kuiu pants
Post by: Karl Blanchard on September 24, 2019, 02:23:23 PM
As soon as FL figures out how to stitch they may get some of my business back.  Zion's are an amazing value and pretty much all I wear. Scooting around in a few different pairs of outdoor research lately and as with literally everything they make they are top notch
Title: Re: First Lite, Sitka, Kuiu pants
Post by: pianoman9701 on September 24, 2019, 02:45:31 PM
I really liked my Sitka Ascent pants this year. They move well when you're climbing.
Title: Re: First Lite, Sitka, Kuiu pants
Post by: KFhunter on September 24, 2019, 03:15:37 PM
I was gonna buy sitka, but made in china


Who makes the best gear not made in china?

Best US made gear?

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Title: Re: First Lite, Sitka, Kuiu pants
Post by: DirkDiggler on September 24, 2019, 03:36:14 PM
If you guys havent tried a pair of the ub tech travel pants from costco yet I highly recommend them. I work in the woods on the coast, beating the brush everyday. These pants are tough as *censored*, dry quick, and are under 20 bucks. The value is stupid good. You probably wont win any cool points but they're better for the westside climate than the attacks, corrugates, or zions other pants I've tried).
Title: Re: First Lite, Sitka, Kuiu pants
Post by: vandeman17 on September 24, 2019, 03:40:57 PM
I really liked my Sitka Ascent pants this year. They move well when you're climbing.

I picked up a pair of these as well. They are pretty solid early season pants. I will be keeping them in my arsenal for sure
Title: Re: First Lite, Sitka, Kuiu pants
Post by: stlusn30-06 on September 24, 2019, 03:55:21 PM
I was gonna buy sitka, but made in china


Who makes the best gear not made in china?

Best US made gear?

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Outdoor Research still has stuff made here. You can pick up a pair of OR Obsidians for $600. Almost everything is made oversees, even by the elite mountaineering companies. Everything comes out of a limited number of factories that specialize in constructing outdoor gear. Seam welding, durable stitching techniques, heavy duty sewing machines. All that requires specialization. All these companies were forced there to stay price competitive. If Made in US is most important, that OR tactical line is probably your best shot.
Title: Re: First Lite, Sitka, Kuiu pants
Post by: KFhunter on September 24, 2019, 06:14:21 PM
I have OR voodoo pants and their gaiters, both good stuff.   Thanks for the idea on the tactical line of stuff.
Title: Re: First Lite, Sitka, Kuiu pants
Post by: Birdgetter on September 24, 2019, 07:51:27 PM
I wear Sitka timberlines year around. Great pair of pants, super versatile and durable!
Title: Re: First Lite, Sitka, Kuiu pants
Post by: fowl smacker on September 25, 2019, 07:11:21 AM
The Sitks Timberlines are my go to pants as well.  Best hunting pants I've ever wore and they're holding up extremely well after 3 seasons.
Title: Re: First Lite, Sitka, Kuiu pants
Post by: T-Dozzer on September 25, 2019, 07:46:51 AM
Timberlines are great. I have the ascents as well. If its super hot, Ill wear the pranas, but after wearing the SG De Havalland for bear and elk recently, they will be my go to pants.
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