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Big Game Hunting => Deer Hunting => Topic started by: Guzman on October 18, 2019, 10:36:44 PM

Title: Ted Nugent Controversy
Post by: Guzman on October 18, 2019, 10:36:44 PM
This seems a little over the top on all this. Pretty messed up in my eyes the government went after him like that.

https://youtu.be/v2T1Al7Q070

 (https://youtu.be/v2T1Al7Q070)
Title: Re: Ted Nugent Controversy
Post by: lokidog on October 18, 2019, 10:48:07 PM
Interesting.
Title: Re: Ted Nugent Controversy
Post by: fishnfur on October 18, 2019, 11:05:48 PM
Sounds like FOX evening news.  Liberals looking to decimate anyone and anything they don't agree with.  God forbid we could just have different opinions and just move on with life.  Nope! Liberals believe "we're right, you're wrong - you should be outcast and denigrated if you differ from our viewpoint.  You are horrible!  We are perfect and you should be made to suffer for your conservative values".   

Very sad state of affairs.  Ted will be fine.  The rest of us, I'm not so sure.
Title: Re: Ted Nugent Controversy
Post by: huntnphool on October 19, 2019, 12:37:07 AM
 Leftists/Dís can not be objective, and have zero ability for rational thinking!!!
Title: Re: Ted Nugent Controversy
Post by: Tinmaniac on October 19, 2019, 07:21:27 AM
10 year old news and not the first time he was in court for questionable hunting methods.Read the rules Ted.Video struck me as him being a whiner,poor me kind of thing.Child rapist?You be the judge.He had to become legal guardian of his 15 year girlfriend to avoid being charged with child rape.
Title: Re: Ted Nugent Controversy
Post by: dwils233 on October 19, 2019, 07:24:56 AM
I'm sorry, but nope nope nope.

Ignorance of the law is not a defense for violating it. We could debate the law, the value of it and logic all day but that is an unacceptable excuse. It's always been our responsibility to know and follow the rules. As far as having charges filed by a US attorney and not by the Alaska prosecutor, that's just prosecutorial discretion. Sometimes they'll look at the evidence and say not worth it, other times they'll go after someone. And then they'll levy additional charges that they think they can get someone on. Pleading no contest as opposed to a plea deal is pretty weird though

It's not "a rule book" it's the law. Does it suck? Yeah. Is it a stupid law? Seems like it. But he's not the completely innocent victim he is presenting himself as. That's our justice system folks, for good and bad
Title: Re: Ted Nugent Controversy
Post by: nwwanderer on October 19, 2019, 07:35:09 AM
I have had these kind of threats from the locals, Mr. Nugent gets the full treatment from the feds.  Disgraceful
Title: Re: Ted Nugent Controversy
Post by: Buckjunkie on October 19, 2019, 08:20:47 AM
The law appears to be misapplied in this case. If the video shows what Ted says it does; he should have been given a warning.
Title: Re: Ted Nugent Controversy
Post by: dwils233 on October 19, 2019, 09:22:32 AM
Not really.

"My arrow hit an animal and I watched it on replay tape"

"I then went out and shot a different bear"

" I then read the regs I hadn't read before and found out I had violated the the regs"

"I'm innocent. And the liberals are out to get me"

It's really no different than someone shooting a WT doe in the NE corner this year. Read the rules. Play by the rules
Title: Re: Ted Nugent Controversy
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 19, 2019, 10:00:41 AM
Ted made a mistake that not even the State of AK was willing to prosecute. This teaches us two things. First, know your regs backward and forward. Second, as long as we hunt, there will be those who will hound us and our tradition until we can hunt no more. I hope the judgement is overturned or Uncle Ted is pardoned by Uncle Donald.
Title: Re: Ted Nugent Controversy
Post by: Tinmaniac on October 19, 2019, 10:03:48 AM
Hi,I'm Ted Nugent.I don't need to read the rules because,well,I'm Ted Nugent.I hire morons that don't know the rules either.I'm all about law and order except when it pertains to me,then I blame Obama.
Title: Re: Ted Nugent Controversy
Post by: Tinmaniac on October 19, 2019, 10:05:15 AM
Ted made a mistake that not even the State of AK was willing to prosecute. This teaches us two things. First, know your regs backward and forward. Second, as long as we hunt, there will be those who will hound us and our tradition until we can hunt no more. I hope the judgement is overturned or Uncle Ted is pardoned by Uncle Donald.
The case is 10 years old.
Title: Re: Ted Nugent Controversy
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 19, 2019, 10:16:04 AM
Hi,I'm Ted Nugent.I don't need to read the rules because,well,I'm Ted Nugent.I hire morons that don't know the rules either.I'm all about law and order except when it pertains to me,then I blame Obama.

I wonder if you've ever made a hunting mistake and then owned up to it on national TV. Likely not. You don't have to like Ted's show. I don't watch it or other hunting shows (once in a while reruns of Meateater on Netflix). But you should acknowledge that he laid everything bare (or bear) for his viewers. And he never blamed his mistake on Obama. He took full responsibility. That's why AK didn't file any charges. He blamed Obama for the stacking of the courts with liberal prosecutors, which Obama did. But, just be a hater. That's fine too.  :dunno:
Title: Re: Ted Nugent Controversy
Post by: Tinmaniac on October 19, 2019, 10:35:55 AM
Watch the video,out of Ted's own mouth,"Obama and Holder have it in for me."Uncle Ted's tech tip of the day,if she is 15 become her legal guardian,that way when she calls you daddy it will be legal.
Title: Re: Ted Nugent Controversy
Post by: pianoman9701 on October 19, 2019, 10:40:09 AM
I said he didn't blame his mistake on Obama.
Title: Re: Ted Nugent Controversy
Post by: Tinmaniac on October 19, 2019, 11:41:11 AM
Your right.He blamed being prosecuted on Obama and everyone else he has criticized.That video is far from a humble admission of guilt from Ted.
Title: Re: Ted Nugent Controversy
Post by: Eric M on October 19, 2019, 12:28:37 PM
Thsi video started showing up in my recommended to watch on youtube also. Strange it shows up after all this time and still starts a debate.
Title: Re: Ted Nugent Controversy
Post by: fishnfur on October 19, 2019, 09:30:12 PM
Exactly!  Or that liberals get so worked up over a nothing issue. 

Lawmakers pass laws.  They rarely have any idea what they are voting on,  Lobbyists slide a little money into the lawmakers pocket to vote in their favor for their special interest group of the day and then expect compliance from the public.  I say, choose the laws you want to follow and ignore those you don't.  Suffer the consequences of your decisions, but don't preach to us from your pulpit and hold everyone else accountable for the stupid sufferings of an ignorant State Legislature.  Get over your yourself and worry about important things.
Title: Re: Ted Nugent Controversy
Post by: bigtex on October 19, 2019, 09:39:01 PM
Your right.He blamed being prosecuted on Obama and everyone else he has criticized.That video is far from a humble admission of guilt from Ted.
The fact that people believe Holder or Obama would even be briefed on a misdemeanor wildlife case is beyond me.

Like other's said, it's not Ted's first run in with wildlife LE. And it was 10 years ago. Guess I should rehash that speeding ticket I got 20 years ago, it was probably Gary Locke's fault..
Title: Re: Ted Nugent Controversy
Post by: 7mm Bob on October 19, 2019, 09:41:46 PM
Absolutely detest Nugent but I just don't see this as that big of a deal.
Title: Re: Ted Nugent Controversy
Post by: Buckjunkie on October 19, 2019, 10:13:51 PM
 
Absolutely detest Nugent but I just don't see this as that big of a deal.

 :yeah:
Title: Re: Ted Nugent Controversy
Post by: spadebit on October 19, 2019, 10:17:32 PM
There are too many laws...many in which do not make sense or are passed to make law makers feel like they are making a difference.  After all they have to do something at their "job"

Follow the law...absolutely to the best of your knowledge.
Hell, cops forget or don't know half the laws.
It takes two years for someone to get a cosmetology license, but to be a cop...6 months plus a short probation period.
Title: Re: Ted Nugent Controversy
Post by: Threewolves on October 20, 2019, 08:16:02 AM
This crap is old, there was a couple of  minutes of my life wasted
Title: Re: Ted Nugent Controversy
Post by: browney5er on October 23, 2019, 09:01:51 PM
Your right.He blamed being prosecuted on Obama and everyone else he has criticized.That video is far from a humble admission of guilt from Ted.



Sounds like Uncle Ted has got you in a stranglehold baby.