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Title: Help calling ducks?
Post by: Axistails on October 21, 2019, 10:38:11 AM
New to duck hunting, and already hooked even without bagging a single duck yet. I have been out 3 days so far, all on whidbey and been trying everything i've learned. I am no good at calling, but still try. I haven't been able to get a single duck to land in my spread or even turn my way. Any tips? I'm using some cheap buck gardner calls that freeze up often and try my hand at basic calls. A few quacks and one I learned of 3 longer tones followed by 3-4 shorter ones. I have 12 mixed decoys and was thinking about getting a mojo. I can't wait till I get my first duck or even a goose, heck id be happy with one landing in front of me.
Title: Re: Help calling ducks?
Post by: Special T on October 21, 2019, 10:40:30 AM
most common mistake is overcalling. When learning just use the quack. until you learn how to do the rest properly and when you will do yourself a disservice. if you dont own a 6in one whistle purchase one. it is the most underrated call on the market.
Title: Re: Help calling ducks?
Post by: Axistails on October 21, 2019, 11:01:57 AM
Thanks!
Title: Re: Help calling ducks?
Post by: vandeman17 on October 21, 2019, 11:12:57 AM
to add on to what special t says, here are some things I learned over the years.

1) Calling to ducks is very hit and miss no matter how good you are. Depending on the time of year, hunting pressure, or even just the weather there will be days when ducks are very call responsive and other days where a single quack and they head the other direction

2) Location trumps calling 99 out of 100 times. If you aren't where the ducks want to be, no amount of calling will get them to come towards your spread. Scouting is key

3) Realism and motion in your decoy set up is just as effective, if not more effective than calling. I use a jerk cord system to get the decoys on the water some movement and depending on the spot and time of year, a spinner wing decoy.

4) The basic quack is plenty to get you started. When using it in the field, watch how the ducks react and don't be afraid to just shut up. Over calling is just as bad, if not worse, than under calling. I have plenty of days the calls go back in the bag after the first little while and I rely on movement of decoys and being in the right position.

Side note, make sure the Mojo you are considering is not battery operated as they are not legal.

Good luck and welcome to the addiction!

Title: Re: Help calling ducks?
Post by: Special T on October 21, 2019, 11:20:34 AM
location, presentation, concealment is the trifecta of hunting ducks. location has the most weight.  the better you are at the other 2 the better you can overcome not being  on the X where they want to be.
 
Title: Re: Help calling ducks?
Post by: boneaddict on October 21, 2019, 11:45:25 AM
concealment with ducks is a big deal.  I struggle photographing them as they pick out my camera or lens easily, even if everything is camo'd up.   No shave november was invented for a reason. ;)   
Title: Re: Help calling ducks?
Post by: Special T on October 21, 2019, 11:47:11 AM
concealment with ducks is a big deal.  I struggle photographing them as they pick out my camera or lens easily, even if everything is camo'd up.   No shave november was invented for a reason. ;)   

Movember!
Title: Re: Help calling ducks?
Post by: boneaddict on October 21, 2019, 11:49:04 AM
Helps with big deer too! :chuckle:
Title: Re: Help calling ducks?
Post by: Badhabit on October 21, 2019, 11:54:29 AM
Troy Taylor who makes Talyor Talker duck and goose calls out of Puyallup puts a calling clinic on over there once a year. They'll walk you through calls and calling technique as well as demonstrate how to cut your own reeds to personalize the reed for your calling style.
Echo duck calls puts out a duck calling CD that is perfect for a beginner. Only way to learn is keep at it. Watch what the ducks do when you call to them.
Title: Re: Help calling ducks?
Post by: boneaddict on October 21, 2019, 11:56:19 AM
Duckmen are fun to watch...   The classics anyway.
Title: Re: Help calling ducks?
Post by: Buckewe on October 21, 2019, 12:03:05 PM
Motion in your spread is far more important. A jerk rig or wind duck will help you far more than calling can
Title: Re: Help calling ducks?
Post by: Axistails on October 21, 2019, 12:30:34 PM
I feel like I'm going to hopefully bag my fist duck now, thank you. As a lady I think ill have to stick to my good old camo neck gaitor! Did not know battery mojos where ilegal either  :yike:
Title: Re: Help calling ducks?
Post by: EWUeagles on October 21, 2019, 12:51:31 PM
I feel like I'm going to hopefully bag my fist duck now, thank you. As a lady I think ill have to stick to my good old camo neck gaitor! Did not know battery mojos where ilegal either  :yike:

I highly recommend reading the regulations and learning about water ROW laws. For calling help just look at youtube. There are world champs on there with plenty of advice. You should also invest in a duck ID book unless you're already proficient at duck ID. Good luck and stick with it!
Title: Re: Help calling ducks?
Post by: lokidog on October 21, 2019, 01:27:30 PM
concealment with ducks is a big deal.  I struggle photographing them as they pick out my camera or lens easily, even if everything is camo'd up.   No shave november was invented for a reason. ;)   

I always shake my head when I see no face camo or gloves and wish the ducks around me were as stupid as the ones on TV shows. But, I guess they are on the X, so some of the details don't matter....

Title: Re: Help calling ducks?
Post by: Stein on October 21, 2019, 01:40:09 PM
I would agree that location is far more important than calling, but unfortunately most of us are not on the X very often.  When you are, it's pretty magical.  Last time I was my young pup was in the field retrieving and a flock nearly landed on her.

Regarding calling, sometimes less is better and timing is important.  I try to only call when they are going the wrong way and likely to not realize the calling is coming from the blind vs the decoys.

Motion has the tendency to work more consistently.  Many times, I call to get their attention to the decoys and then only a tiny bit if at all.

Keep at it, public land ducks can be a challenge on any given day even for people that have been at it a long time.
Title: Re: Help calling ducks?
Post by: Ltburrows on October 21, 2019, 08:31:32 PM
Everyone’s pretty much covered everything. The biggest thing that helped me when I was learning was to record myself. Sometimes the quack that you think sound like crap sound the most realistic when you play it back. The best CDs that I’ve found is “bad grammar university.”  The last thing I suggest is to take your call with you in the car and practice.
Title: Re: Help calling ducks?
Post by: Capt.Kyle97 on October 22, 2019, 11:16:27 AM
concealment with ducks is a big deal.  I struggle photographing them as they pick out my camera or lens easily, even if everything is camo'd up.   No shave november was invented for a reason. ;)   

ducks are super hard to hide from because they have a peripheral vision of 340 degrees, so there is only about 20 degrees they cant see behind them. Thats why when your trying to sneak up on them to jump shoot, they will bust without even looking in your direction. I have found this is also important when ducks fly over your head, people think that since they flew past its okay to move and look at them but often they can still see you.
Title: Re: Help calling ducks?
Post by: AL WORRELLS KID on October 23, 2019, 11:37:45 AM
Fall for the best, die like the rest. QUACK! QUACK!   :tup:
Doug                                                                                                                                                             

Title: Re: Help calling ducks?
Post by: BD1 on October 23, 2019, 12:35:00 PM
I keep a call(s) in my truck all year...in the off season I go listen to them anywhere I can find them.  Sometimes I just listen and other times I try to "talk" with them...sometimes people look at me weird but then again people often look at me weird  :o Other have provided good suggestions too...just practice and don't give up on it.
Title: Re: Help calling ducks?
Post by: spadebit on October 23, 2019, 11:23:09 PM
All great info.
I still suck at calling...but I love the Haydel Dr 85.  It is nearly impossible to screw it up once you understand the cadence.
And you soon will come to find out...when you arent paying attention, for example taking a piss...that is when birds seem to come in.  It's like they know they are safe. 
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