Post by: stickbuck on April 08, 2020, 04:40:37 PM
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Post by: Buckmark on April 08, 2020, 04:55:25 PM
But thats not what you asked :chuckle:
I have not personally used a Husky rancher 460 but if that was the saw i was looking at i would seriously look at the Echo CS-590 Timberwolf, and most likely i would buy the Echo (who am i kidding i would buy a Stihl :chuckle:)
I do own one small husky as my chuck in the back of the truck, atv, etc saw (had a Stihl but someone wanted it more than i did), got the husky for practicaly free so bought it, Eh, its a chainsaw.
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Post by: Naches Sportsman on April 08, 2020, 06:32:03 PM
Run the 362 and husqvarna 460 side by side and make the decision for yourself.
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Post by: KFhunter on April 08, 2020, 07:04:07 PM
I like my husky, but its a lot bigger than 460 rancher.
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Post by: ghosthunter on April 08, 2020, 07:19:25 PM
But anyone who try’s a Stihl with Easy Start System will never go back to tugging on a rope.
Wife got me one for Father’s Day two years ago. And it a dream.
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Post by: KFhunter on April 09, 2020, 08:45:31 AM
If I got a short bar I gotta bend over a lot, then my back is sore.
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Post by: Buckhunter24 on April 09, 2020, 08:54:35 AM
Post by: KFhunter on April 09, 2020, 08:58:54 AM
Depends how much filing you want to do. I prefer a small saw for personal use, large saw for work all dayYa that too
I got screamed at so much when I wss green and kept running the bar into the dirt on the landing lol
Then finally one of the old guys gave me a lesson on how to cut a dirty log and not drag the dirt through the wood, and filing.
I was a farm kid that cut a lot of fire wood, but then logging was a whole nother level
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Post by: Gobble Doc on April 09, 2020, 10:30:51 AM
Maybe you could host a video conference for my family on how to keep the saw out of the dirt? My recommendations aren’t getting traction. I have an electric pole saw that works pretty well for small stuff. Oh, it gets used to cut something laying flush on the ground. And did anyone check the oil?Depends how much filing you want to do. I prefer a small saw for personal use, large saw for work all dayYa that too
I got screamed at so much when I wss green and kept running the bar into the dirt on the landing lol
Then finally one of the old guys gave me a lesson on how to cut a dirty log and not drag the dirt through the wood, and filing.
I was a farm kid that cut a lot of fire wood, but then logging was a whole nother level
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Post by: tlbradford on April 09, 2020, 10:16:22 PM
I like to stand up straight and have a bar that'll nearly touch my toes
If I got a short bar I gotta bend over a lot, then my back is sore.
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This. Limbing is 100x better with a longer bar. I run a 550xp now. When the XP line came out with auto tune, I felt they were the better saws for what I was doing, and the power cutters at the time outran everything by a long ways. I run a 16" bar on it most of the time and can bury it hardwood for a plunge cut when falling. It can run a 20" bar fine, and longer than that is meant for limbing only. It is as reliable as it was the day it was purchased 9 years ago. The power cutters have been used on steel, concrete, and masonry ever since and it is a tank. I ran stihl, makitas, and huskies side by side and it is no contest. Just go to some arborist forums and read up on the latest and greatest. Saw shops that service both brands will give you the best guidance.
Post by: birdshooter1189 on April 09, 2020, 10:51:17 PM
One thing I’ve noticed since I moved out west is the size of the saws people use out here. Growing up back East, we cut a lot of wood. Heated our house solely with wood through winter where it got real cold. Hardwoods too. Oak, maple, hickory, etc. My dad and grandfather had saws with 20” bars and cut everything with them. I cut all the trees off my grandfathers property and cleared for his house with a 20” saw. Why’s everybody gotta have saws with gigantic bars on them out here? I mean I get the loggers and the pros but seems like folks have a thing for oversized saws they don’t really need. Aren’t they just heavier after a day in the woods?
:yeah:
I used to work for a tree service company and have operated and worked on chainsaws quite a bit. Mostly stihl.
I have 4 saws, 28" bar, 25" bar, 20" bar, and 18" bar. I use the saw with a 18" bar 80% of the time. I'm 6'5" so I understand the argument of having a long bar so you don't have to bend over to de-limb logs. But I do so much delimbing, cutting small stuff, hacking and slashing blackberries and brush....the weight of the bigger saws wears me out much quicker. 80% of the cuts I make are 10" diameter or less. But occasionally I cut 2'+ diameter logs and I have the saws for that too.
Another benefit to a shorter bar is that the chain doesn't come off as easily. When delimbing, cutting back brush from the base of a tree, etc, sometimes small branches or things grab the chain and try to throw it off the bar.
And I also second the previous comment that shorter bars take less time to sharpen a chain.
Post by: C-Money on April 10, 2020, 06:05:54 AM
Post by: jackelope on April 10, 2020, 08:32:17 AM
As a kid in Pennsylvania, getting firewood ready was just a part of life. We started pulling out wood as soon as the little tractor wouldn't sink & get stuck. I'd help family friends with their wood and make a few $$. Spent a lot of time in the woods. Learned a lot. Agree with above statements, 20" seemed very popular, and rarely needed anything bigger. Dad had an old saw with a longer bar on it that he would pull out once in a while for some bigger trees. I remember that old saw looking very intimidating and heavy! Much of our wood came from storm damage rarely encountering anything a 20" wouldn't handle. I was never on the saw cutting, I always was filling the trailer, on the splitter and stacking. Saws were for the adults. People had Huskys and Stihl for the most part, but I also remember folks using a plane old Craftsmen saws as well. I bought a new saw a few years ago. Got a Huskey, with a 16" bar. Starts and cuts great. I like the Husqvarna saws.
Sounds like our childhoods were very similar. I remember lots of good times spent on our wood lot. Hot dogs on a stick over the fire burning brush, splitting wood while my pop cut it.
Post by: Buckhunter24 on April 10, 2020, 08:35:38 AM
Post by: Smossy on April 10, 2020, 08:37:41 AM
Still my favorite saw though.
Post by: C-Money on April 10, 2020, 08:48:12 AM
As a kid in Pennsylvania, getting firewood ready was just a part of life. We started pulling out wood as soon as the little tractor wouldn't sink & get stuck. I'd help family friends with their wood and make a few $$. Spent a lot of time in the woods. Learned a lot. Agree with above statements, 20" seemed very popular, and rarely needed anything bigger. Dad had an old saw with a longer bar on it that he would pull out once in a while for some bigger trees. I remember that old saw looking very intimidating and heavy! Much of our wood came from storm damage rarely encountering anything a 20" wouldn't handle. I was never on the saw cutting, I always was filling the trailer, on the splitter and stacking. Saws were for the adults. People had Huskys and Stihl for the most part, but I also remember folks using a plane old Craftsmen saws as well. I bought a new saw a few years ago. Got a Huskey, with a 16" bar. Starts and cuts great. I like the Husqvarna saws.
Sounds like our childhoods were very similar. I remember lots of good times spent on our wood lot. Hot dogs on a stick over the fire burning brush, splitting wood while my pop cut it.
Very similar indeed! Lunch was always Smiths natural casing wieners with sauerkraut & swiss cheese. Wonderful time in life.
Post by: KFhunter on April 10, 2020, 08:53:18 AM
I got my sthil new, it leaks bar oil
they all leak bar oil, every saw I've ever had or been around either leaks bar oil or soon will.
If you fuel cap gaskets are good, store the saw with the bar up, fuel caps down, my husky sits on its handle this way. Only do this if you have really good O rings or gaskets on your fuel and oil filler caps.
Post by: Smossy on April 10, 2020, 09:10:32 AM
I got my husky new, it leaks bar oilGreat to know actually, I thought mine was defective.
I got my sthil new, it leaks bar oil
they all leak bar oil, every saw I've ever had or been around either leaks bar oil or soon will.
If you fuel cap gaskets are good, store the saw with the bar up, fuel caps down, my husky sits on its handle this way. Only do this if you have really good O rings or gaskets on your fuel and oil filler caps.
Post by: NitRally on April 10, 2020, 09:23:00 AM
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Post by: Buckhunter24 on April 10, 2020, 09:30:33 AM
Post by: NitRally on April 10, 2020, 09:36:30 AM
You can look into a skip tooth chain for longer bar if not already running one.
Agreed it does help out. But realistically a 20" bar/chain is what most people need 90% of the time. Skip tooth are nice for re sharpening lol.
Post by: HntnFsh on April 10, 2020, 10:26:27 AM
+1 on the stihl 362. Thats what I have and it can pull a 24" but it honestly shines the best with a 20" on it. If youre needing to run a 24" id go with a ms460 or 461
I bought a 461 a couple years ago. What a beast. I run a 32" bar on it but am also setting up for a 28" bar. But I cut a lot of big firewood. Sometimes 4 foot through. When I was looking I thought about a 460 but was steered away. Less dependable, some places wouldnt even sell them. They suggested the 461 with better power, durability and dependability for just a few bucks more. I also have an MS290 I bought several years ago with a 20" bar. Great little saw.
Just remember Stihl is not made in Germany anymore. They have a big ol factory in China. I know of 1 major logging supply store in the area that dropped Stihl and deals with Huskies. If I was buying a new smaller saw I would probably go Husky. Bigger I went with the 461. Stihl hard to beat. But dont think you can go wrong with either.
Post by: KFhunter on April 10, 2020, 10:28:08 AM
https://chainsawlarry.com/where-are-chainsaws-made-by-each-manufacturer/#Where_are_Stihl_chainsaws_made
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Post by: jackelope on April 10, 2020, 11:13:01 AM
I like to stand up straight and have a bar that'll nearly touch my toes
If I got a short bar I gotta bend over a lot, then my back is sore.
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I used to have pics of me with a Stihl 084 with a huge bar on it. I want to say it was a 48" bar but I can't remember for sure. I worked at a True Value store when I was a teenager that had a Stihl saw shop in it.
Post by: woodswalker on April 10, 2020, 12:38:21 PM
One thing I’ve noticed since I moved out west is the size of the saws people use out here. Growing up back East, we cut a lot of wood. Heated our house solely with wood through winter where it got real cold. Hardwoods too. Oak, maple, hickory, etc. My dad and grandfather had saws with 20” bars and cut everything with them. I cut all the trees off my grandfathers property and cleared for his house with a 20” saw. Why’s everybody gotta have saws with gigantic bars on them out here? I mean I get the loggers and the pros but seems like folks have a thing for oversized saws they don’t really need. Aren’t they just heavier after a day in the woods?
For most all of my around the place and firewood duty, I run Stihls, either a 029 or the newer MS290 with an 18 and 20 inch bar respectively. Those do for 90% of firewood duty, if i know i'll be cutting in an older unit, I'll throw in my 036P with the 26" bar. Occasionally though, I get a shout from my buddy Ed who runs a few mechanical sides (his youngsters never get out of the cab i think except at the end of the day) to come hand cut a steep or inaccessible corner OR some BIG trees that were not cut LAST cycle that his equipment wont handle. I'll load up, depending on what Ed tells me there is to cut, either the MS460 or the 064 with 32 and 41 inch bars respectively. I always take the 036P just because. Only once have I dragged the 066 with the 58 in bar to one of Ed's shows. the unit he was cutting had some OLD cedars, fir and hemlock back in a steep canyon that his equipment couldn't work on and stems that his grapples couldn't even pick up. The average butt cut was over 80" and there were a few monsters that i had to bench to get through. I do have a small MS250 in a case for winter duties and a Mac10 for a climbing/arborist saw.
TL:DR I run 029/MS290s for most home and firewood duty...but have bigger stuff for when its needed
Post by: KFhunter on April 10, 2020, 12:38:33 PM
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