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Other Activities => Trapping => Topic started by: Cougartail on July 21, 2020, 01:43:55 PM

Title: More Koro???
Post by: Cougartail on July 21, 2020, 01:43:55 PM
So has anyone decided which works better for marten/muskrat/civets, upside down or right side up when used in boxes?
Title: Re: More Koro???
Post by: JakeLand on July 21, 2020, 03:21:52 PM
Set right side up for Marten as I want it to snap the neck IMO !
Title: Re: More Koro???
Post by: Cougartail on July 21, 2020, 04:03:47 PM
Set right side up for Marten as I want it to snap the neck IMO !

Do they step on the pans or just push the pan out of the way with their bodies.
Title: Re: More Koro???
Post by: Humptulips on July 21, 2020, 04:29:03 PM
I've only trapped civets but I've done a lot of experimentation and IMO they should be set upside down. It is a toss up on getting them into the trap far enough when right side up.  Often times when set right side up they spring the trap too early and the jaw hits them in the face or forehead. That pushes them out of the trap. If you think about the arc the jaw travels when upside down it comes up under their chin. It cannot push them out of the trap even sprung at the same relative depth they have entered.
The other problem with civets a neck catch is not always lethal. A shoulder catch is better. The pan being on top they tend to get deeper into the trap before spring it.
I have come up with a new thing to try. A 3/4 angle iron piece attached to the box to act as a dislocator. Emphasis on attached to the box so the trap is unmodified. Here's a picture albeit a poor picture. Batteries dead on my camera. I will try to get a better picture later.
Title: Re: More Koro???
Post by: Cougartail on July 21, 2020, 07:58:35 PM
Set right side up for Marten as I want it to snap the neck IMO !

Have you marten trapped with these and caught some?
Title: Re: More Koro???
Post by: Humptulips on July 21, 2020, 08:10:54 PM
Better pictures. The paper clip holds the trap in place.
Title: Re: More Koro???
Post by: JakeLand on July 21, 2020, 08:15:16 PM
Caught 6 last year with the koro
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Title: Re: More Koro???
Post by: Cougartail on July 21, 2020, 08:57:47 PM
Thanks guys! Obviously they work ..  Securing the trap was one of my concerns. I'll report back if I come up with something workable.
Title: Re: More Koro???
Post by: JakeLand on July 21, 2020, 09:02:37 PM
Thanks guys! Obviously they work ..  Securing the trap was one of my concerns. I'll report back if I come up with something workable.
cut the cable off and replace with a small chain and swivel
Title: Re: More Koro???
Post by: Cougartail on July 21, 2020, 09:20:03 PM
Thanks guys! Obviously they work ..  Securing the trap was one of my concerns. I'll report back if I come up with something workable.
cut the cable off and replace with a small chain and swivel

How did you attach the chain and where?
Title: Re: More Koro???
Post by: JakeLand on July 22, 2020, 03:16:37 AM
Thanks guys! Obviously they work ..  Securing the trap was one of my concerns. I'll report back if I come up with something workable.
cut the cable off and replace with a small chain and swivel

How did you attach the chain and where?
I will do some pics tonight but on the back frame piece with a small quick link no
Title: Re: More Koro???
Post by: Cougartail on July 22, 2020, 06:41:16 AM
Thanks! Where they have the cable is such a small opening.
Title: Re: More Koro???
Post by: Humptulips on July 22, 2020, 12:49:24 PM
All I have ever done is attach a piece of tie wire to the front of the trap where the striker hits.
Title: Re: More Koro???
Post by: Cougartail on July 25, 2020, 11:44:32 AM
Thanks guys! Obviously they work ..  Securing the trap was one of my concerns. I'll report back if I come up with something workable.
cut the cable off and replace with a small chain and swivel

So I looked at their cable and noticed they weren't crimped very well. I got out the hammer and pounded on them a bit. After some testing I'm thinking they won't pull loose. They held up to my 200 lbs of tugs so I'm happy with that.

Is strength the reason you've been clipping them off?
Title: Re: More Koro???
Post by: JakeLand on July 25, 2020, 01:19:31 PM
The 2 marten that broke the cable they both twisted enough to break the cable so I guess if you add a swivel and a shock spring plus double crimping the Ferrell it would work
Title: Re: More Koro???
Post by: Loup Loup on July 25, 2020, 08:27:45 PM
I fear that there has been not enough discription of this cable that is supplied on these traps by Koro.
This piece of cable is a peerless POS. It is easily broken with a slight tug. If a Marten can break a fastener, that fastener is weak! 2 out of 6 Marten breaking a fastening device should say it all.Get rid of that cable and replace it with different cable, light chain, or wire. Any hardware store sells light chain and different fasteners for it. Cripes the shoelace off your daughters made in Korea Tennyshoes would be stronger than Koros cable. I think you guys selling Koros should be removing this niggardly cable out of the box before you sell the trap.
Set for the weasel, but anchor for the bear.
Title: Re: More Koro???
Post by: JakeLand on July 25, 2020, 09:02:45 PM
I agree the cables on all my koro traps get cut off and I add a chain to the back
Never lost another animal
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And I added striker bars
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Even a grinner it gets just fine
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Title: Re: More Koro???
Post by: Loup Loup on July 26, 2020, 08:38:54 AM
Now thats a very good set up, Jakeland. Thanks for showing that. With a chain a guy could develope a terminal anchor, say chain wraped around a limb, then a quick link closed with a wrench. This way a thief is going to need tools and time to steal your trap.
Title: Re: More Koro???
Post by: Cougartail on July 26, 2020, 09:10:07 AM
I will be replacing the cable! Thanks again for the pictures and replies.